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1281  Other / Off-topic / Re: Keeping your gambling habit a secret. on: August 09, 2023, 11:30:02 PM
But why continue in what you're not proud of by keeping it secret cause maybe you're worried about what people may say, how their thoughts about your person might change. Or how you might loose ties with someone you hold dear to. And many other reasons that follows.
We don't want to keep it to the public when it's about gamblnig and I think you know the answer why. It's because many families don't think that a part of them should gambling as it will cost them a lot of money and regret and could potentially lose everything on them. There are conservative families and if they know that their son/daughter have been gambling all the time, they may lose their grip on them even if it's her/his personal money from being employed.

Those that keep their gambling habit a secret is it that they're not proud of what they are doing?.
Proud or not, there are things that we need to keep it to ourselves and if you don't like to be judged by your family and relatives, you won't tell this to them.
1282  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Beware, New HVNC Malware Threatens Your Crypto Assets on: August 07, 2023, 10:12:51 PM
Not a mac and iOS user but it seems that any operating system that you use these days, you need to be careful. Well, we have to because that's how we protect ourselves and avoid these malware. And in today's time, it is a basic need to have that basic knowledge about cybersecurity so that a user should always be aware of the potential threats that can go within his/her device.

A scammer selling a fake took (HVNC) just to scam other scammers.
This is also what I am thinking of. OP mentioned that this software/tool is being sold in the dark web. The potentality of it that it can also be a bluff sale could be done by anyone who's aware of this. And those cool boys that pretends to be hackers or just known this stuff could also make them fall for it. Anyway, going back as a user, whether you're an iOS, android, MAC, windows, linux or any operating systems user. One thing that you need to remember is to never get yourself a link that you're not familiar with and the same goes for downloading apps unknown to you.
1283  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Which CEX did you use and what are your reasons for adopting the exchange? on: August 05, 2023, 12:42:49 PM
Proof of reserve IMHO is actually an overstatement. It's because running an exchange business, despite that you'll just going to collect commission from fees. You should be prepared for any collapse coming from the market, thus, you should have reserve fund to sustain the exchange business. This is the norm entering a business and that's why if Binance, Coinbase or any other exchange boasting about their reserve of fund or proof of reserve, it's a must and in the first place they should really have that knowing that they're entering a business that's involved with money, finance since crypto = money/asset.
1284  Economy / Gambling / Re: Free Condolence Bonuses to Betnomi victims on: August 03, 2023, 09:11:09 PM
Impressive. While I do think that this is going to be a lot of work on your end since you'll be asking some proof and as well as you'll be requiring these claimants with a certain wager. I guess you've made this plan well and prepared that you're expecting a lot of inquiries claiming that they've got funds stuck there and can no longer take it. Well, I'm not going to be curious about the process you'll do as it shouldn't really be disclosed and it has got nothing to do with me since I'm not a victim as well. I think that this gesture will also give the idea to the other casinos that they'd also do this type of promotion to get more of those gamblers go each of you and have that benefit. While those victims, real ones, will think of the same thing as well. Good luck though, there will be a sure bombardment on your chat support asap.
1285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Certified Bitcoin Professional on: August 02, 2023, 05:45:11 PM
Being certified by any recognized institution is only a proof that you've undergone through their path while learning but the real experience needed is the application of what you've learnt into practical use, as long as you can perform upto expectation and deliver the best needed of you, certification works for you and the other prospect you may have with working with other organizations as part of their requirements, but if for yourself, you may not need that except you want to learn while having their certificate along as an added advantage.
I agree, real experience is what making these certifications out of the league. But on this one, it's not that really like an industry standard per se. It's made by consensus by an organization and many don't follow it at all.

You're right, some of them may actually be here unknowingly to us, but what we needed is to ensure we have what is required to be informed about bitcoin and understand how the whole network operates for our own benefits, many never know the advantage this forum offers them until they go outside the forum to pay for same thing the learn freely from bitcointalk.
Actually, it's possible that many of the learners came from here and learned those things freely. And the trade that happens mostly with these paid courses, they're just setting it like a ladder and charging students for their efforts and that's why it's paid.

Two questions come to mind here. First is whether companies hiring "blockchain experts" require such certificates or care if you have one or not.
Second is whether these hiring companies even recognize the issuer of such certificates!
It's most likely that they prefer the ones that has the experience than of those that have these certificates. Because those that have experience knows more of what they do. While these people with related certificates, maybe most of them are like career shifters and they're good to have the fundamental knowledge good for an entry career.

I haven't really looked for the jobs in this industry but from what I've seen from startups and other small businesses in this field, the experts themselves create these small companies and then they hire regular programmers, etc. to help build the business.
Not to mention that when anybody hires employees, they look for experience not certificates. For example when they hire a programmer, they don't ask them who taught them c++. Instead they ask them how many lines of c++ they have written and what programs they've created, and stuff like that.
True, they hire coders/programmers and that's what I see and most of them are into the solidity programmers because for the specific of what they're working on.

It makes me laugh enough that a company invents a course of study on blockchain and Bitcoin and then wants to issue a certification to say that you are now officially an expert ... in reality you have stolen my money.  I would like to know who gives them the right to say that that certification is authentic, in short Bitcoin is not a product of a company and I don't understand how a company certification can become a standard...lol
Well, that's true and I can't argue more. Usually, those that have "experts" on the field and have them compiled with other "experts" too have just come up to have this for so long and think that many will land a job through their certification.

While the prospect of earning a "Certified Bitcoin Professional" designation intrigues me, it also makes me suspicious. There is a clear need for more uniform qualifications in this field, but it is unclear if C4's accreditation, or that of any other group, can meet that demand. How does one become a Bitcoin expert? Programming, trading, investing, and other financial savvy would all be helpful, at least in theory.

In addition, developments in the bitcoin industry occur at an unprecedented rate, making it difficult for a static curriculum to keep up. It's like trying to keep water from dripping through your fingers.

Last but not least, an accreditation's worth is determined by its standing in the marketplace. I am interested in knowing how this certification is seen by potential employers. Does it set you apart from the competition significantly, or is it just another line on your resume?
The thing is, they were the one to make their own demand and criteria to tell someone if they're a CBP based on the exam and certification that they've made. But in actuality, we all know that whoever passes the exam is an expert on paper and not in real industry.

It's almost like a 'Chicken or Egg' situation.  Who certified them to be in a position to say you're certified if you complete their course?

Every time someone invents a new technology, anyone could come along and say "pay me money and I'll say you're certified".  Certificates are only useful if relevant industries accept them, but I suppose it helps if there are some recognisable names on the board of directors for this particular one.
True, that's what it is with them and having Andreas on board probably made them think that they're credible enough on it because he's known in the industry.

SEC chief G.Gensler was a bitcoin lecturer at MIT a few years ago... teaching kids about bitcoin.. years later even gensler cant decide what bitcoin is..
just goes to show how poor even known institutions dont really know what they are talking about
I didn't know about that and only knew that he has applied for Binance as consultant or something, interesting thing about this hater now.

Andreas Antonopoulos lost a lot in my eyes by going full leftist in some of his tweets. I've no idea what is he up to now.
The certificate was designed for professionals from various industries to get them familiar of what Bitcoin actually is and how it works.
It's probably not very useful for anyone wanting to dive much deeper into it. You could probably learn more by experimenting yourself (i.e. playing with testnet) and talking to people on technical boards.
Being on the forum will give more learnings and that's no doubt about it. Going with the depth technically, we can see that it's easier to converse with more relevant and tech experts from the members in here than of these set standardized certifications.

One thing to see if the certification is practical or needed is the credibility of such certification.  Is it credited by the authority to handle such certification?  Is the certification acknowledged by any government institution or private company?  Can it be used to apply for a position? Those are some questions to answer in order to say that this kind of certification is a must for career-oriented individuals.   But if it is not then I think it is just a waste of time and money.
They are the authority who credited it thus, there's actual no industry standard on it. So basically, an organization that's more in depth to this can say that they're certified on their own. And recognizing it depends on the company the certified person will apply for.

Certifications are nothing more than awards or proof that you've undergone training in order to claim that title. In the grand scheme of things you're not necessarily as great as someone who had 5+ years of experience in blockchain technology if you've gone through an online course training program to get your certification lol. Nothing beats experience in this industry and I can attest to that with the fact that I had a friend in the past who bought these online course training programs, this time for blockchain technology and got his certification, in the end he worked at a fortune 200 company that doesn't even dabble in blockchain technology while another friend of mine who had 2 years of working closely with cryptocurrencies as a full stack developer landed a job in this industry and is comfortably working in the comfort of his own home. Not comparing or contrasting who's better and who's not, just that these certifications doesn't act as a guarantee that you'd be a master at the thing you just trained for. Mastery requires 20% training and 80% hands-on experience.
In the other industry, there are certain certifications that would be desired by companies and being recognized by most of them who are in the specific niche and business. But that's true that it's not really necessarily if there's no specific company that talks about it or even desiring to have it. Because if so, then this type of course should have blown already on its popularity.

Institutions have been trying to profit from knowledge certifications for quite a few years now. The problem with them is that they are barely recognised as official certifications of knowledge to companies, and as another user said, is unlikely to be worth anything anywhere at this stage. Maybe, it's a step toward the best certifications standing out in the future and it will be worth getting the certification now for the sake of cheaper cost, as cost of a cert. might increase if it becomes recognised...other than that purpose, I don't see any other use case.

It will be hard to establish something recognisable and useful. At least, until colleges and universities create some form of certification and study. That is quite unlikely to happen soon, if at all.
Some of them have been reputable but not on this one, it's completely a new atmosphere to have their institution go after with the industry standard and make a certification out of it. And that's why we don't see the known ones in the tech industry have this applied on their own.

Certificates are proof that you have undergone a test on what you know on the subject and the issuer should be credible enough to back you up on your knowledge about the subject, like you never know someone you met until you see the certificates that he received.
There will be a lot of jobs and professions that will include knowledge about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency and you will need something like this to back you up if you're a company and you're going to hire someone you want to see as many courses your applicant has gone through that is related to the job applying, so is when you're an applicant.
In the future, we will have Universities offering this kind of course, there's a lot of demand in many sectors where knowledge of Cryptocurrency and blockchain is essential.
Mostly, it's good for the new ones and career shifters. But if you've been in here for quite a while, your experience could tell a lot for you when you try to apply for it. Just as what everyone is saying regarding this cert, to each their own for these companies.

For me personally, i do not and will not consider any certificate from any of this firms important, it is nothing but business for me, they are just feeding on the ignorance of some people, what ever lesson or knowledge regrading bitcoin and blockchain that this firm is awarding this certificate for, same can be learnt and even extra ordinarily perfected through online courses from several platforms like Udemy and the likes, and the beautiful thing about Udemy is that, you can find any course there at a very cheap amount of money, all is required is your willingness and determination to learn..

Another thing i was even thinking about just about now is, lets say like the op said, that google seem to recognize the certificate being issued out by this firm, how many blockchain firm know about the firm and the certificate? how easy can a person with the certificate secure a lucrative job in a blockchain company? this is the only way we can know if those certificate are truly valuable or not.
True about Udemy, there are a bunch of these courses made also by individuals and it's up to you if you think that they're enough. But most likely, there have been free courses that are good for starters offered by exchanges and other websites which could already be enough just to get the fundamentals. As for recognition, I've just googled about it and not actually google recognizes it. Some results from google say so.

I imagine for Bitcoin-related jobs, experience is the most important quality in a candidate. If someone has a good portfolio of delivered Bitcoin projects, they don't need certificates. So they are only useful for people who only entered the field, but only if these certificates are recognized by the potential employers.
That's actually true, getting certs like this is like an addition or just a satisfaction that one has to display on his portfolio or resume.

Interesting IMO.
There could be other organizations like Blockchain Council offering similar certifications.  However, forums and communities are great resources to learn for free and just thought of sharing this, ain't affiliated with them.
Right, I've just picked them as it seems that they're the closest that one to C4. You just look at Udemy and you see a bunch of them offering these the same certifications but I don't know how many of them are orgs as well. And I couldn't agree more about things in the forums and communities.

all of this is to make sure that the project that they done is credible. I think such certificate can't be issued by non government institutions. we need a legal institution or group or public figures that credible and popular to issue that certificate because once the certificate is issued they will risking their credibility. in my country there is institutions called OJK which supervise any money related service, for me it is safer to use service that supervised by OJK.
Anyone can issue their certificate, whether they conduct examinations or seminars, they can. As long as there's an exchange of why they're distributing that based on their setting and standard. I haven't heard OJK and from what country is that?

I would never pay any money for such bullsh*t.
Passing one exam and buying one course doesn't mean that you are a true professional. There must be a 4 year long university program for becoming an expert in cryptocurrencies and blockchain technology. The participants in such program must practice their skills for months or even years. Learning theory is only 20%, building skills by practice must be 80% of the entire crypto/blockchain education.
I guess that those "crypto organizations" OP is mentioning have found an easy way to make some easy money by selling "certificates" to a bunch of gullible crypto noobs.
While I do agree about a 4 year course over crypto and blockchain technology. But just look at the most experts on this field, they don't ended up having any education or bachelors degree that's described. Honestly, with the innovation of technology now learning has became a such fast paced thing that can be done over a boot camp. But I do get your point about this certification and there could be some folks that have been liking to attach their names over certificates since they can afford to pay one and also have bunch of spare time to complete it.

Well, it is nice that Andreas Antonopoulos are one of their board of Directors, because he is very knowledgeable about Bitcoin and Crypto currencies. He will not back any bogus organization that will issue doggy certificated, because he has a relative good reputation in the Crypto community.

I have been involved in a lot of recruiting for posts and we do not even consider "certificates" that are not verified by our local registering authorities. That does not mean that I will not look into this... so thank you OP for posting this.  Wink
No problem, more details you get about it on their website if you want to pay a visit.

What are the benefits of being a Certified Bitcoin Professional? Do you get discounts, perks, or access to exclusive events? 😎 I'll enroll only if I get free Bitcoin with my certification.
Well, you get certified by them and that's pretty much it is. And the knowledge you'll learn there is just like the start of it but it's better to learn more about it through the forum and get into process which is a better way. I'm not sure if there are some of those that offers for free but I guess there is, maybe in Udemy.

There will be many people interested in knowing more about bitcoins when they learn about it, these people know that is why they have decided to make money from it by claiming to give certification. Many people in this forum have deeper knowledge about bitcoins than the tutors in these school for certification, and also passing through this school does not give any confidence that you know more than someone who has deep interest in bitcoins and a dedicated member of this forum.
While it's true that sure a lot of people want to get ahead and know more about Bitcoin. But it's not needed to go into this type of certification, a lot of tutorials and information are almost everywhere. Anyway, they're not a school but an organization.

What will you get aside than this certify?

Will this certificate give you a 100% guarantee you will able to work in Bitcoin sector? nope

Will this certificate make you understand about Bitcoin? not really.

I don't see any skill that you would get after completing this certificate except you're become a teacher which teach about Bitcoin in general. Without this certificate, you can still become a teacher as long as you understand about Bitcoin in basic and the difference with bank or fiat.
Everything you've said is right and it's just like a fulfillment for someone to have it and it's just like a "nice to have" certificate for someone who's already knowledgeable on this.

Certified Bitcoin Professional, huh? Sounds like the kind of title I'd put on my LinkedIn profile just to impress my friends. But hey, if it helps people get into the industry, why not?
You got it, it's likely to impress your friends and maybe a couple of employers who knows? But like what everyone is saying, whether you have it or not, you'll still be able to land a crypto-related job if you've got the right skills and knowledge.

It is a personal matter for everyone whether to receive a certificate. I agree that it is probably needed only for work in order to show it along with the rest of the certificates to the company that hires you. Perhaps you will look more competitive against the background of other candidates. As for knowledge, I don't know what it gives that can't be found in the public domain. I agree with you that on the forum you can find a lot of useful information.
The certificate only confirms that you have knowledge in this area. But the absence of a certificate does not mean that you do not know anything and do not understand
There is a conclusion, then if there is an opportunity, then it can be done, it will not be worse with him - it can come in handy
You will look more competitive in the sense that you've finished the course. But with actual situations and interviews, you'll ace it more if you've got the experience and actual knowledge. There is a brief summary of what that course and certificate has to offer on that link I've put on the OP.

I had no plans to pay $140 to get myself certified - that didn't seem like much use to me. Of course some of us would be interested - but I think it's just a collection instead a condition for applying for a job. Certificates can be useful - but not all jobs require certificates especially if they only want your experience and ability on the job.

A certificate might explain to your future children that you are one of the many people who know and are knowledgeable about bitcoin - but I don't think it's very useful for the company that will hire you.
Honestly me to, or if I'd be willing to spend that much I'll choose another course that I know that I'm better with. While it sounds cool that you've got a story to tell to your children someday that you're one of the few that have taken it but likely never used and apply it.

Recently, a friend who is an accountant is need for a certificate in this area and not because the company is involved in the crypto world, just because due to the boom and disclosure, they want to be prepared.

There are starsups dedicated to training, this type of training has been going on for years, now they are not endorsed by the official education ministries, but they do exist long time.

Let's say that, as has happened with other technological things, that type of course is always there, there are still Excell courses. Smiley

So, in the case of our forum, which you mention, it may not be very useful at the level of the bureaucracy of a piece of paper that says, "you are an expert".
Right on. Some companies may sponsor their employees in prepareness of the upcoming boom on this industry. But just like the usual thing in the tech sector, innovation keeps on going and industry standards are changing rapidly. Dealing with the actual experts and having conversations or just reading interesting topics in the forum are much more pretty interesting than on it rather than spending w/ those bucks.

No one has the full knowledge of bitcoin, talk more to having an institute that issues out certificate on bitcoin course. Bitcoin is very broad that it can't be learnt for three years. Nobody will care of your certificate if you want to be employed to a company because the employer believes on what you gat in you as bitcoin is not theory but practical especially the programmers and dev. Certificate is only paper and anyone can come up with a certificate on blockchain claiming to be a professional which might not be true. The only one that can have an institute on bitcoin that will be recognized by the world is Satoshi but this is impossible. I will prefer to learn in this forum gradually for a very long time than going to pay for some paper that I don't know if I can grab a lot of knowledge on bitcoin from them.
Only if satoshi will appear and will prove that he's the real one and establishes something like this. For sure that a lot of people will come to chase it but well, as you've said, it's unlikely to happen.
1286  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Certified Bitcoin Professional on: July 31, 2023, 03:58:32 PM
I am not sure if this was posted already and I know that many will raise their eyebrows on this one. Because we've got a lot of experts here that are technically knowledgeable and adept about the Bitcoin network itself and not just for it but also for other chains.

But out of boredom and trying to search for something related to this, I've stumbled upon this certification of being a "Certified Bitcoin Professional" (CBP) by C4(cryptoconsortium) so I think that I have to share this one. As we know that this is still an industry that doesn't have standards for being a professional and most likely it's just all about being a programmer/developer, project manager, trader, investor and etc. Here is this organization that has set an industry standard for everyone. Looking at the people behind this includes Andreas Antonopoulos as one of their board of directors. The rest of the team members, I don't know them. So they have a course just like any other in able to pass and get certified.

I don't know the credibility yet of this but searching a bit of its info, it seems that their certification is recognized based on the google results that came out to me. Going with the exam it will cost you $99.99 as per its website and then the certification fee is $39.99. They also have other courses like Certified Ethereum Professional, the rest is on their website.

My take on this one is that if you've got a lot of spare money and you want to get into this, it's just all about satisfaction and getting the certificate unless you want to apply for jobs related to Bitcoin and related to blockchain technology. Anyway, it's still best to have the knowledge when you're applying even without the certification as that's going to be more honored by a company you are applying for.

But if you're for the knowledge, the forum is more than enough for what you can learn from there and it's for free and that's why we're all grateful that we're part of this great community. Probably most of those people that are behind these orgs have been here as well.

There is also another organization that has this certification aside from C4 and that's blockchain council's - Certified Bitcoin Expert. And they've got more courses aside from this specific certification while for them, their certification is lifetime and for the C4, you have to renew it.

PS: I am not related to them and just thought of sharing this and thanks for reading everyone.  Smiley
1287  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Popular crypto influencer Pauly accused of Millions of Dollars Fraud. on: July 29, 2023, 12:00:42 PM
These rugpulls have been common to these influencers that have the idea that their followers will surely buy whatever they feed them. Even they feed them with literal shit and shitcoins, these followers are the blind ones and they don't mind to follow whatever they say. I just hope that this influencer will get sued and there will be a victim that will come into light and will pursue on what this guy did. Since he's a public figure, anyone from those victims can seek help from the authorities and state what has happened with this rugpulled project that he has made. It's also possible that these victims go with a consensus so that they can file a case against him and so he'll get sued. There's power in unity and if that happens, the other influencers that have been shilling and feeding shitcoins to their followers will see that they can't just do that anymore. I know that there's also the fault from these investors and followers but they've been victimized and blindly attracted to these influencers and misled.
1288  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A Mobile App for Bitcointalk forum??? on: July 28, 2023, 08:57:45 PM
There has been a lot of discussions about it for years and as you can see, there were the links that have been provided to you. But as much as everyone wants to have it, the forum is very much responsive to mobile devices and that's why there's probably no need for it anymore. Maybe we'll be surprised in the near future and there's going to be the app that's going to be made for everybody or much better not to think and expect from it anymore as everyone is good and not that problematic at all with the current version of the forum that we've got. If I'll be asked, I want it like this way and as much as possible to remain as is.
1289  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A neighbor next door on: July 27, 2023, 11:54:36 PM
If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?
No. Despite that you want to get some friends with them, I don't want to be associated with them.

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.
Anything that seems to be an illegal act isn't safe at all. And that's why if you want to protect yourself and your family, you'll not get close to them. Possible that neighbor told the drug guy that you're into Bitcoin but are you not that scared at all?

What will you do if something like this is happening around you?
If it's already there and he already knew that you're into Bitcoin, choose what you're going to answer wisely. He may ask some favor to you because the idea that a person that has Bitcoin could make them think you've got a lot of money and from there, you might get the fear of what I am saying.

Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?
We don't know, anything is of possibility.

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?
Do not stress your mind that much and think of any possibility that could happen. Your neighborhood is dangerous IMHO and even you've been there for years, you don't know what's on the mind of people.
1290  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 23-July-23] on: July 27, 2023, 06:57:19 PM
Sherbet is now on hold.

The campaign is on HOLD now
1291  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: XRP Lawyer Jeremy Hogan's Twitter Account Hacked on: July 26, 2023, 10:51:25 PM
This scam never gets old. I don't know how he's hacked but it could possibly be that he fell for a phishing. So aside from Telegram, act is right that this scam is common especially in Twitter. I hope that soon there is like one access hotline from these social media and they can retrieve their accounts immediately especially if they've been hacked and offering scammy BS to the people that follows them. That's like one good and quick solution so that there will be lesser to no victim that will fall to these hackers/scammers.
1292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Stephen Fulton vs. Naoya Inoue | WBC & WBO 122 lbs bout | July 25 on: July 25, 2023, 12:57:19 PM
Woooah! Just like what everyone has expected, it's still the monster that has been proclaimed as the winner of this match. And several months ago, I've also said that this quote that's favoring Inoue. This guy is an absolute beast and there will be more matches on this division on him and for sure that just after a few rest, he's going to his road map to dominate this division.

Good for him, I don't know much a lot with Stephen but Naoya sure is a monster and is worthy of his alias. On 122 lbs, I'm sure that he'll feel something new with that but he's aware of any changes on that division and since he's the undisputed champion on the past division that he has left, it's becoming more interesting not just on him but also the title match that he has vacated.

Congratulations to Inoue! I think he can still move up in weight because he has been dominating.
I also think so and that's why that would probably be his next ambition. But for the meantime, I think that he just want to stay on this current division and has got list on who are those in line that he wants to challenge and beat.
1293  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: As a gambler do you have a potential winning amount limit? on: July 25, 2023, 09:52:00 AM
There are gamblers that don't place their bet not until they have gotten a certain amount as their potential win.
How so? They won't see their potential win if they're not going to bet. Is this something to do with the odds? And if these gamblers are actual sportsbettors that are waiting for the odds to be in favor of them so that they've got a better potential profit won't bet, then their potential win cannot be taken. I'm sorry but I'm just looking at the logic from this that you've said.

Some do this based on their financial challenge with the anticipation that just one win they may get on such amount is a life changer for them.
That's possible to happen but usually with these one chances of bets, they have to bet with certain huge amounts for them to have that in reality. Typically, you just win one bet and you're good just for the day. But to say that it's going to be a life changer bet for them, I can only see this happen through the lottery and any other luck based games that has a lot of multiplier.
1294  Economy / Economics / Re: Im looking for traders and financial people to join with me on: July 24, 2023, 07:24:34 PM
I like your optimism about someday building your own hedge fund and as well as your financial institution. But if the plan is to create a group, you'll just probably going to be tired of building that outside the forum. This forum is enough for any group related matters whether it's trading or just simple investing in the crypto market. This community is more than what anyone needs. If you are for trading then go ahead on the Trading Discussion and make your own thread there discussing all about your trades in forex and futures.
1295  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Farmer's Bitcoin Investment on: July 24, 2023, 05:24:58 PM
Seems like a good story if it's real. But let's say that this story is for real and these farmers and teacher helped them to form to a cooperative and the one main goal is to invest into Bitcoin. That's a crazy idea honestly and I'd say that these farmers could do it on their own and even if they don't know that thing, forming a cooperative to invest into a highly volatile asset shouldn't be a main goal for forming it. We know that farmers aren't really compensated well and some of them are probably just renting those equipment and land and that's why, the tip that we used to say about investing only what they can afford to lose should always be remembered and told.
And the fact is that farmers in the field do not know anything about crypto and Bitcoin and how risky it is.
This is a very sensitive sector and is related to the main income of farmers.
We may be able to explain what the purpose of bitcoin or crypto investment is, but of course, they will not accept the risks that will be caused.

Only farmers who understand and understand crypto technology are able to implement it, but for most small farmers it is just an investment that can be detrimental.
There are even many crypto projects that want to enter the agricultural sector, but eventually have to stop due to lack of interest from farmers.
Crypto is a fairly risky investment, so anyone who wants to enter must know what the risks are and how to get profits.
Although that's most likely the situation that many of them probably haven't heard of what Bitcoin is and whether it is an investment or something they'll benefit in the future. I'm giving that idea that there could be a very few of them that's aware of its existence since I'm also going into places like remote areas and farms and there's connectivity to those areas that I've been. But you are right about that it's unlikely that many of them will dive into this investment especially if that's all that they've got during the harvest time.
1296  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Cryptocurrency Job Lists on: July 24, 2023, 11:36:29 AM
@OP, thank you for making this list. Those that are aspiring job hunters that are looking for a crypto related job should go each of them if they still haven't found their crypto dream job. Aside from that, if they have some crypto companies that are aware of. They can always check their hiring/careers pages to see if they've got some opening.  Like for an example, the common exchanges that we're using. AFAIK, the majority of them are continuous in hiring.
1297  Economy / Services / Re: Looking For Stake.com High Rollers (100k+ daily wagers) on: July 24, 2023, 09:10:18 AM
I hope that this thread gets locked soon. With all of those inconsistent threads made by OP, he did even claimed that stake had an agreement with him and the issue he has thrown to them has been solved which isn't likely because stunna left him negative trust rating saying that he has made a fake news. I think that with this offer OP trying to do has something to do with bonuses that he wants to take advantage of those gamblers that has this account but @sam is right, those high rollers are most likely not even active in any place like this.
1298  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian ruble is scam on: July 23, 2023, 11:45:00 PM
It's still their currency and people on that specific country is still using. Despite of what they've started and we don't like what they've done, their currency is still a currency. Whatever you want to talk about with, next time add some more detailed thoughts on why you think it is and not just going leave some few words and make it left hanging. We've got our own currencies and from the system within the scams are being made by those cons and if it's about default, we know how it works and interest rates are being added on it.
1299  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance adds support for the Lightning network on: July 23, 2023, 04:42:14 PM
But in that case, they should be the one to promote that people shouldn't get that much attention with the other choices and only choose the actual Bitcoin & LN.
That would be counterintuitive to their goal IMO. They want people to use their blockchain so they encourage them with cheaper fees and so on. Even the lightning option is probably added because they are certain they can make money out of it. Binance is a business in the end, and profit is its goal. They would not explicitly encourage users to be aware of the risks associated with their products unless they need are forced to do it, either by law or something else.
Yeah, that's for sure that no matter what we want for them to just support the native and actual Bitcoin. They're all a business and anything that they do for their platform cannot be for the sake of their customers only but also them.

Still, hopefully, this addition helps people.
Hope so but I guess that it's helping and working to make people know about it.
1300  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Farmer's Bitcoin Investment on: July 23, 2023, 02:09:45 PM
Seems like a good story if it's real. But let's say that this story is for real and these farmers and teacher helped them to form to a cooperative and the one main goal is to invest into Bitcoin. That's a crazy idea honestly and I'd say that these farmers could do it on their own and even if they don't know that thing, forming a cooperative to invest into a highly volatile asset shouldn't be a main goal for forming it. We know that farmers aren't really compensated well and some of them are probably just renting those equipment and land and that's why, the tip that we used to say about investing only what they can afford to lose should always be remembered and told.
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