And when it explodes and kills the recipient guess who goes to jail? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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What I see in America is that conservatives believe in nothing. They just elected a megalomaniac New York billionaire who is loyal to Russia. What country is this anymore?
I don't think that all conservatives are behind Trump. Like I said in my previous post, there must also be some that just believe in personal freedom (libertarian). Anyway, I don't think that someone who is conservative isn't automatically a bad person or stupid, same with liberals. Although some people from either side would have you believe that. Yeah, I am extremely conservative and did consider myself a republican, but no longer. My party left me when they elected Trump because he's been a life-long liberal and is basically moderate now. However, I do feel Pence and his advisors will balance out the ticket slightly. I will cheer when he does something good, but will be extremely critical when he does bad things. RodeoX, like you just showed: Trump has seriously damaged the conservative moment, he doesn't represent many of our values. But on another note, the Democratic Party is definitely in shambles as well. That's the thing. I do not really consider myself conservative, but I have respect for those who have a consistent philosophy on the subject, right or left. But Trump is just about Trump and seems to have no center or consistent ideas about the world. He just reacts in the moment based on his feelings at that moment. That is how dictatorships operate. These are worrying times. P.S. I often voted Dem in the past. My party has also sold out and I'm outta there.
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it's more Japanese JT stuff. When I lived in Japan I could not help notice how much they are into school girls. It's pretty weird.
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So it's like bitcoin except the supply, distribution, and price are controlled by a central bank and can only be used in Denmark according to the rules laid out by a government.
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What I see in America is that conservatives believe in nothing. They just elected a megalomaniac New York billionaire who is loyal to Russia. What country is this anymore?
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Oh, there are numerous scams that will do this for you. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Claiming that Electrum is much weaker than that because they are using a list of words to create a password
is flat-out wrong. Actually the way I wrote that is wrong. What I mean is that the pass phrase is weaker than a private key.
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your math probably isn't correct because it is supposed to take until the heat death of the universe even if you use all the computers in the world non-stop ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . you're using just 1000 asics in your example. part of that seed mnemonic is actually a checksum so you have to discount that. once you remove the checksum you find it's a 124bit seed. so 2^124 possibilities. I thought that time frame was to discover a collision in a bitcoin address? Electrum is much weaker than that because they are using a list of words to create a password. However it is still a large number of possibilities to test. This is why a good password should never be a word at all. With something like 60-80k English words in common use it is a relatively small task to test those possibilities. That is a dictionary attack. If instead you used a PW like: %74Fkg#!jkF6l it will require trying every possibility for all characters. That is brute forcing.
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If the whales are early adopters, they might not care for the price of Bitcoin as much as we do. The very fact that they were early adopters and yet didn't cash out could explain why they are still in the game. They are not waiting for the price to hit some certain level, they are obviously waiting when Bitcoin becomes a new global money and they themselves turn into a new wealthy elite.
I suppose I am an early adopter. I have been at it since 2010. Like many of the others I know, we are not interested in the price. I don't care about wealth, just economic freedom. That's what this is about for me and I have no intention of ever "cashing out". I have never sold a bitcoin because bitcoin is the cash I want. If I find myself sitting on a 100 million USD in BTC, I'll donate it somewhere. So it looks like that I'm right about you, the early adopter guys. You are just waiting patiently when Bitcoin becomes the major money, and then you will be both liked and envied or even hated by smaller people like us, who were not that lucky to jump on the Bitcoin bandwagon in time. But if you don't transact what's the purpose of economic freedom to you then? Oh I do PURCHASE stuff with bitcoin. It is the only money I use online. If I can't get it for bitcoin then I don't buy it. I don't care about being liked or hated. It's not about me. Indeed the worst curse I could imagine is being famous. Bitcoin is a response to the unfairness present in monetary policy. The first people here were much, much more concerned with these issues than getting rich or buying drugs. That all came later. Of course we are all individuals and someone else may feel differently.
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If the whales are early adopters, they might not care for the price of Bitcoin as much as we do. The very fact that they were early adopters and yet didn't cash out could explain why they are still in the game. They are not waiting for the price to hit some certain level, they are obviously waiting when Bitcoin becomes a new global money and they themselves turn into a new wealthy elite.
I suppose I am an early adopter. I have been at it since 2010. Like many of the others I know, we are not interested in the price. I don't care about wealth, just economic freedom. That's what this is about for me and I have no intention of ever "cashing out". I have never sold a bitcoin because bitcoin is the cash I want. If I find myself sitting on a 100 million USD in BTC, I'll donate it somewhere.
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Here is the funny thing: when I say: 'your key in on that website' - a thousand idiot keep coming to tell me that it isn't. They just can't bear to accept that their key is so easily found. ...
So what? It in no way allows control of anyones bitcoin. It is just a list of possible private keys. For example I don't know your phone number, but I could write down all possible 10 digit phone numbers. Would I know your number then? Well... It would be on my list, but so what?
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I think there are some group of people who earn a lot , they control the bitcoins.
i think a group of people are a single state cannot control or effect bitcoin. i think bitcoin is free and is not under control of any one, the only fact is that bitcoin is under control of person who is using it i am controlling the amount of bitcoins i have. Amen. If someone thinks they control BTC then try controlling mine and find out how wrong this notion is.
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newegg doesnt accept bitcoin
yeah they do...I've made multiple purchases using bitcoin on newegg Yes as mentioned earlier this is true, why would you say otherwise @lucullus? thanks! I have used them as well. I think Tiger Direct and Dell also take bitcoin as well as overstock. Overstock sells HP computers with a discount of 3% if you pay in bitcoin. I don't think you will find a better deal. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Then why do you need my bitcoins?
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If you remove the funds from that address, you should leave a note/message to inform people on why this was done. Yes, it should be removed if it is unclaimed for too long, but just in case someone does find it and access that address... then they will know why it was moved. In future, when you do this, I would include a message with the stash, to tell anyone that this treasure has a expiry date. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Yes, that is a good point. And I did do that. You can read the letter I enclosed in the original post of this thread. If you post this on geocaching.com it will get found pretty fast I think, most caches there don't last more than a couple of days, even in some pretty remote areas. I've done this a few times myself. Too bad I don't live in Iceland I tried but got very sick of their system. It requires weeks of waiting for confirmations and a stupid set of rules about how the cache needs to be set up. After like three weeks I gave up and deleted my account. It was serious ridiculous. They would ask how I will "maintain the cache". When I wrote back that this a one time thing and I can't do that, the response would take a week and be "how will you maintain the cache"? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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10k dollars in what time frame? if within a year, i think many poor people are there, so they are not forced to declare, otherwise everyone must declare, i would personally do a transaction with anyone but not reveal my identity, so i'm safe in case i'm dealing with an officer
I think he meant in one purchase. Purchases of currency or anything over 10K will trigger all sorts of investigation. If your caught you will wish you had paid. Failure to do so is way more expensive.
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You sir are correct! However it may not be a great idea. Here is why. I have a copy of the private key that controls this balance. The reason I kept a copy is in case this is never claimed. It could be destroyed by the ocean or weather or whatever. If no one claims it by 2018 I will assume it is gone and move the cache to another place on the earth. At that point it would be very hard to return any additional funds sent to the address. So you would have to commit to giving those funds away even if it means they are moved to another location later. You would also have to trust me not to just take the funds. I'm not going to do that, but you don't know me and blind trust is not a bitcoin value. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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100 days...
I would not be surprised if it would take more than a year. Iceland is not densely populated and the probability of an Bitcoiner from Iceland becoming aware of this thread is pretty low. And just booking a flight to Iceland to search for $ 80 worth of Bitcoin is not an attractive option by now. Maybe when Bitcoin surpasses $10k it will become more attractive for foreigners as well. Maybe you should consider announcing your hidden treasure on other platforms (reddit or Bitcoin news sites) as well. That would increase the probability of search and discovery. This thread has just been read about 1600 times - that's simply not enough exposure considering that many people open the thread repeatedly. Anyway, great idea! ya.ya.yo! You may very well be right. I was worried it would only take hours and would go too fast, silly me. Even though there are not a lot of bitcoin users in Iceland there are mega-mines right in the same town as this cache. So I know some people there know about it. Where are they? Maybe I will announce this in some other places. I was hoping that someone here would get it though. In any case it will be there until 2018. Unless the sea claims it. Don't worry, it won't be there forever. The second this becomes profitable for me I'll book a flight and get to have a vacation with your bitcoins paying the way ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) lol, yes. I am keeping it there even if it rises in price to a million USD. You may also want to look into Iceland air if you fly to Europe. They have a layover deal that let's you stop in Iceland. Since this cache is only 15mins. from the airport you could grab it with a cab ride. You may even be able to walk there.
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100 days and no takers yet!
It is still there just waiting for you to come up with a plan. No strings, no rules. Just take it and it's yours.
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The problem I see with the alt-coins is that they are always trying to solve a problem that does not exist. Problems like "there aren't enough coins" or "mining fees are too low" or whatever. They are all pale copies of the real breakthrough that bitcoin represents. The only alt that has maintained some level of respect is litecoin. I can't think of another success from the hundreds of alts now in the wild.
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