For very obvious reasons, gox price is *justifiedly* decoupled from stamp price.
If however the situation on gox continues, I don't think stamp will entirely stay unaffected. Not for practical reasons so much as for psychological reasons: gox price is still quoted in the world, and at some point, the nervousness will translate into selling pressure on stamp as well. Not enough to go sub 500 maybe, but enough to bring the two exchanges a bit more in line.
So, short term: if Gox enables BTC withdrawals, Stamp will go down because arbitrage. If Gox doesn't enable withdrawals, Stamp will go down because Gox dying will bring everyone down. It looks to me like we are out of short-term scenarios where Stamp price goes up? Yeah , it looks like we're in bearland , whatever happens next the price is going down. Time for bitcoin to contradict again all prediction and go up
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I'm just saying but people with weak mining hardware better mine something else and buy cheap ric in exchange, coz now really insanely cheap..cost only under 1.30$ and could cost more then 5$. Just look to diff and how many miners that coin have and u can guess what future for this coin.
So , what is the future for this coin? Again to the moon? That place is going to be soo crowded
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stop asking to buy at 1 satoshi, every one of those coin is easily worth 3-5 satoshi at the start, looks at all the other released...
If every launched coin could be traded at 3-5 satoshi at least , we could get a marketcap of all alts about 1000 thousand times the size of m1 in a few months.
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at least be half creative, use another logo dude.
There is no need to use another logo , the other coin is a joke scam coin .
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Looks like chinease miners are more with PANDA than with PND
Will PND default ?
Who cares about chinese miners , people care about the premine sutff....
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That 239 Satoshis Wall ..... !!! I wonder how much of it will evaporate the moments it gets touched. Not at all I think. The 240wall didnt move neither did the 239 wall. I actually think these are legit "heroes". as i was saying
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Sell your coins ASAP ppl .....leave this ship !!!
And what kind of snake was the one that bit you? He just wants in cheap... doge will explode when it comes on ref link removed:) And you really think that and you have a motive , or you just wanted to spam your ref link ?
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Sell your coins ASAP ppl .....leave this ship !!!
And what kind of snake was the one that bit you?
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Life of Fonzie. Chapter 1. First Post: Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Which coin to mine? on: January 08, 2014, 05:28:57 PM Dogecoin, what else? You realize with what kind of troll we're dealing here ?
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Pandacoin #1 was just another altcoin. Pandacoin #2 was the brainchild of wolong - the asian market manipulator who is credited with manipulating dogecoin, uno and others. This coin is modified vertcoin so it needs a custom miner to run. It has widespread developer support and lots of attention due to the attachment to wolong who stands to become a multimillionaire if the coin is successful. It was timed to launch the day dogecoin payouts halve giving miners something new to pile into. Pandacoin #3 is an attack by 4chan users to get back at wolong for his market manipultion techniques and perhaps taking more credit for dogecoin than he should. The plan is to confuse users over what is the real pandacoin. http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2014/02/14/notorious-market-player-wolong-releasing-pandacoin-today-4chan-declares-war/This should provide some interesting drama! Personally I am mining coin #2 as wolong can generate attention and stands to make a lot if it is successful. #1 is generic and #3 is run by 4chan who don't usually have the best of intentions. I bet that there would be another panda , i'm thinking of around 5-6 coins this weekend.
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There are now 2 or Panda Coins. WITCH ONE IS THE RIGHT ONE!
two of them are currently having viking funerals.. btw.. this is the real one =) I think this is bad news, whoever added a 2nd coin it brings allot of confusion. Im sorry to say this but its over. This is not going to be tarn serious if exchanges get two coins with a panda... Good luck everyone Let the most popular panda win, but the 0% premine will win guaranteed. People with the right mind will agree, this 3% is just scam, plain and simple, the premine always kills the coin. You guys need to stop throwing the phrase 'premine' around.. I know a lot of you have read some other articles on coins which have failed because of premine, but dont think that that is somehow a universal rule or that everyone is automatically opposed to it, because they aren't.. says the 250 btc investment raised pre-release. In all honesty, we are happy for 0% panda to release their coin.. and guess what.. they will have 0% market and 0 exchanges and 0 everything else to compliment it Carry on, you have your own head up your own arse.. 3% PREMINE is just way too much for a couple of days work, yes you paid for pandacoin to be added to crypto rush, and panda has been added to a new exchange? WOW thats so fucking awesome! Sev, time will tell.. but people will go with the 0% premine its fair and isnt a scam.. It's just plain and simple lol.. The best thing about it is that everyone is mining your version pumping then dumping.. diff getting high, then the new pandacoin will be released which all the miners and community will go to that panda and stay at that panda. Why would they want to fill your pockets with bitcoins for a couple days of work. It's not going to happen sev, you'll end up dumping your coins soon and this version will be forgotten about.
End of discussion.. Go ahead and reply with hate but the truth hurts. You are more than entitled to make wild guesses as to what will happen, and as you correctly said, time will tell. But i expect a full apology ..written here.. in 7 days time when the other coins have faded in to insignificance and we are stilll stood here firmly trading and expanding. Is that fair? Certainly & i expect the same from you. People have a chance to mine the same coin either with 0% premine or 3% premine.. No brainer. See you in 7days, also i expect you to close this thread after your apology. Good-day Sev I am not going to close the thread, but i will honour having to apologize to you if your lottery-style predictions come true. Granted Regarding your EDIT. I wont accept your "scammed premine btc" i would prefer an apology over premine dump. Thats all from me, catch you in 7days. I don't have any BTC from selling pandacoin.. you saw the link to my wallet and you can confirm with the devs what amount of coins they gave me if that makes you feel better. In the meantime, if you are going to go out of your way to constantly scream 'scam' then please give a detailed explanation about why you feel that this coin is a scam just so we can move past this point of contention, you at least owe us that if you are so readily able, as a non-panda-holder, make these kind of claims regards sev Only a matter of time before you dump the premine, so either way lol its going to happen. No need for a detailed explanation, the volume of the premine explains everything. 3% PREMINE. inb4 you start saying 3% is needed to help the coin, cause thats complete bullshite, less than 1% is fine in my books but 3% jesus sev get a grip lol. Toodles! You are aware of what the 3% breaks down as, correct? You are aware as to what the 3% pre-mine has already DONE for the coin? lol .. one day we will make a coin that will be good in your books, until then, enjoy being in the shadow of a much larger, mightier panda with a bigger panda penis You mean nothing? The only reason this is taking off is due to greed. Just look at MAX. Pure greed. This is going in circles. Lets face facts here.. Greed would be the dev team keeping 3% of all coins - this would be a fail Greed would be dumping the coins the second an exchange accepted them ^ neither of these thigns have happened instead here is what happened 250 BTC was raised pre-launch Devs and large IPO investors alike have held their coins .. Ok and where has that 3% gone outside of your wallet and to the IPOs. I don't see the giveaways or anything that you were talking about. Bountys, giveaways, you keep saying you've held your coins.. its abit obvious you would hold your coins the first couple days of launch until it gains high btc trades and hit a popular exchange etc thats just common sense. 250btc was raised you claim.. and? you've paid crypto rush 0.25 to get on their exchange, thats great sev.. really good. Time will tell stated previously, but i can guarantee pandacoin will be dumped. People can lick sev's arse and say it wont cause wolong and all this bullshit, you'll see. Yeah its a prediction, but its a healthy prediction, cause 3% PREMINE. Thats all i need to say to validate my point lol. Actually, it doesn't validate your point in the slightest.. you are not for coins that have IPO'd and you do not feel the devs should be rewarded for hard work, thats basically what your saying.. it validates nothing other than your own sense of worth over how you view the crypto world and alt coins in general. And that is fine. No matter what I say, regardless of whether you agree or don't agree you are shutting me down. First you tell us we are scammers because of a 'pre mine / IPO' and then you tell me that regardless of me saying im holding my coins that according to you that is not good enough and that apparently im going to jump at the first opportunity to dump.. This is a pointless conversation, so lets just leave it that you are not going to be part of this community for the reasons that you have stated and on behalf of the team, we hope that you find a coin you really love and can support and learn more about crypto in the process. Warm Regards Sev Quoted to make this wall of text even larger , and harder to read for anybody trying to join the conversation
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Think back to when BTC went ASIC, that eventually was responsible for a lot of hashing power moving to LTC. Now we have LTC JUST starting to go ASIC. It is not as big as when BTC went ASIC (as SCRYPT won't see the huge jumps in hashing power with an ASIC), but I really think this is going to point a lot of people looking for coins that are relatively ASIC proof. Sure an ASIC can be built for most coins but not till the price warrants that.
Quark is in a unique position for our inflation rate is extremely low relative to other coins. So, getting quark is really only feasible through purchase and not mining. e.g. I have an AMD FX8350 going at 850kh/s and only mine 3 or so coins a day. (Not good at this price for me.)
If LTC does go the way of ASICs (as one MUST consider energy consumption here) and if Smelter progresses with Quark mining on GPU's, I wonder if that will increase interest in Quark? The big IF is that our price needs to appreciate a bit. When that happens, things can really change dramatically.
I also look forward to a default implementation of mining on wallets (switchable, but on for 20% of CPU or so) as that will really strengthen the network.
The variables involved with Quark, mining, ASICs, price, etc. is a bit unique and I wonder how it will all play out.
Any ideas?
IAS
Before giving you any ideas , how did the halving affect the price? You know , we had a little debate over nothing will happen .... I need to rub it again , after I already made my day in the doge thread , where everybody was also hoping for the reward halving to drive the prices to the moon. If the price won't move , you won't see any miners coming to quark , just leaving. But , the network can be sustained with only 1 miner , if he is trustworthy. Botnets... that's a different story. It seems like you are more concerned with being right and not finding truth? Fair to say? It appears with the price being this low and halving happening, that there is no drive to mine or increase buying of the coin. But on a positive note, the price went up and right around that time you disappeared... But seriously though, you are simplifying the argument, once again, I'm afraid just to be right. And the reason I say that is because your perspectives, or rather perspective, is apparently so narrow. I'm not saying that insultingly, rather it is just the choices you give and all that you skip over. e.g. - I mentioned ASIC's and the affect they've had, you didn't address that. And in our last talk, you did the same - picking out pieces and not going deeper. Because ASICs for scrypt coins , won't have any impact on quark. Nothing , zero , nada. It's like thinking about how the new strawberry harvesting machines will have an impact on bananas price. As for that price just when I was away , if I would have been online at that time I would have sold I'm waiting for the next pump to do it.
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Immaturity from sev ha! Anyway this discussion was posted on the 3% premine pump and dump page:
too much text
Immaturity from a dev is always a bad sign. Panda is already dropping, finally miners coming to their senses.
I do hope this coin gets launched , and it's not just somebody trolling And hopefully more will come:).
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Yay we need moar panda!!!
I will ask for a petition , that every citizen should have it's own panda coin.
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I wanna cry....
Have a panda
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Think back to when BTC went ASIC, that eventually was responsible for a lot of hashing power moving to LTC. Now we have LTC JUST starting to go ASIC. It is not as big as when BTC went ASIC (as SCRYPT won't see the huge jumps in hashing power with an ASIC), but I really think this is going to point a lot of people looking for coins that are relatively ASIC proof. Sure an ASIC can be built for most coins but not till the price warrants that.
Quark is in a unique position for our inflation rate is extremely low relative to other coins. So, getting quark is really only feasible through purchase and not mining. e.g. I have an AMD FX8350 going at 850kh/s and only mine 3 or so coins a day. (Not good at this price for me.)
If LTC does go the way of ASICs (as one MUST consider energy consumption here) and if Smelter progresses with Quark mining on GPU's, I wonder if that will increase interest in Quark? The big IF is that our price needs to appreciate a bit. When that happens, things can really change dramatically.
I also look forward to a default implementation of mining on wallets (switchable, but on for 20% of CPU or so) as that will really strengthen the network.
The variables involved with Quark, mining, ASICs, price, etc. is a bit unique and I wonder how it will all play out.
Any ideas?
IAS
Before giving you any ideas , how did the halving affect the price? You know , we had a little debate over nothing will happen .... I need to rub it again , after I already made my day in the doge thread , where everybody was also hoping for the reward halving to drive the prices to the moon. If the price won't move , you won't see any miners coming to quark , just leaving. But , the network can be sustained with only 1 miner , if he is trustworthy. Botnets... that's a different story.
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Sorry for my ignorance, but how and when NXM is distributed?
Don't bother , there won't be any:)
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User last active: Last Active: February 10, 2014, 08:44:08 PM Yeah , I can hear the project moving fast and furios ))
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Not interested at all! Summary - BCFrex Picture/Text Name: BCFrex Posts: 23 Activity: 23 Position: Newbie Date Registered: January 20, 2014, 09:30:44 AM Last Active: January 29, 2014, 11:59:34 PM Kiss your interest goodbye
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How many thousands btc should I give you?
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