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1361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 06:50:18 PM
ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  Grin
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:
Code:
walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0
now try to find my fucking sender address  Grin

dev...
you are a saint  Cool

IMPORTANT:
post your answers on topic (NOT PM)

I cant solve the bounty problem. Coin appears to be very anonymous!

lol

I'll throw in 50XC to the bounty. Proof of work.
1362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 05:44:05 PM
Its amazing how much hate and FUD this thing has gathered. Stabilization at this point is good, but it is really so painful to see darkcoin be promoted HARD while the advantages of a coin like XC are more than obvious. Every fud has been answered, every bug has been, or is being worked on, and atcsecure has gone to great lengths to assure us of the coins long-term development, upgrade and prosperity. I respesct DKR's "experience" and dev's sincerety at many matters, but it is obviously unfair. I do however believe than given time we will shine. What else is there for a mere member to do to promote XC? Push coindesk for an article? Ask more devs to test the code? Send emails somewhere else? Retweet? What?

You guys are forgetting how high the price has gone already.  People are already sitting on mountains of unrealized gains (in terms of BTC).  The price needs to settle in to it's new value for a little while.
1363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
news@coindesk.com     Lets blow up there mailbox with XC news demanding a reprint to get rid of that code copying fud and DRK promition!!! XC FTW

I read the article and it's just saying what people were tweeting.  Coindesk didn't say it was true.  The article isn't that bad and I don't think it impacted the price at all. 
1364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 01:33:50 PM
Also Mike - maybe don't look at cryptsy but someone has just put down a 21 BTC buy Cheesy @20.2...



Meh, 21btc really isn't that much when volume is in the thousands.  I'm a small player and I can dump right into that buy wall. I won't, but I'm just saying.

I have enough trading experience to know that chart patterns help you put odds in your favor when trading but they aren't 100%.  
1365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 01:29:36 PM
Looks like someone does not want this over 21k..

Re Cinni, its just not a popular coin, it does have very swift transactions though and I do rate it, I just think there is no room for it...

The price is being kept artificially high by the 40k order @ 0.002, the market needs to correct and it can't. As soon as that order disappears we'll be back below 0.002 within minutes

Alternatively we are about to breakout, which I think is much more likely, I think the price is artificially low... Lets see who is correct.

Nope. The TA above is correct. We need to go down first before we can come back up again and attempt a breakout. This could last a few days.

The sooner idiot trader number 1 with his 40k order gets removed the sooner we can continue on with our downtrend, and the sooner we can reverse after that downtrend and attempt a breakout. Seriously. That order is reason the volume is so low. Everybody has their finger on the sell button but while that huge order is still on there's no point.

Trust me on this. It's kind of my job.

Ps: just for appeasement. I do think we'll reach 0.01 by mid July at the very latest, barring any technical fuckups.

This guy talks sense  Kiss

This guy talk sense for people who wants to bring the price down to get more coins from scared selling noobs....as he stated himself that is kind of his job.. in mid july this coin will be 0.05 to 0.1 now get your coins or cry later

Jesus Christ kids you don't realise how markets work do you? The price HAS to go down before we can breakout up. It's called price discovery after a correction. It involves the markets swinging up and down with lower highs and higher lows until a breakout. It happens all the time.

Wow. I can't believe I'm having to argue this, If you had any idea about what you were talking about apart from 'wow shiney chart look at the candles move, GOO GREEN!!' You would know exactly what I'm talking about.

Anyways. Until that 40k order goes the market is stalled. We're not breaking out until we retest 0.0018ish and the rebound to 0.0025. But whatever, what do I know.

I don't want to argue with you, but what's your reasoning that it has to go back to 18 again?  It already corrected below that?  How many times does it have to touch the bottom before it's "officially" corrected?

Price discovery after a correction downwards. It's a pretty common thing. This one looks like what's called an acending triangle. Google it, it'll explain it better than I'm about to. It basically means we will be swinging up and down, with lower highs and higher lows until we converge on a point and the market breaksout from this trend, in this case, most likely upwards.

Anyways, in regards to the number of swings, probably not that many times. You'll know once the market pretty much stalls at a price were probably about to breakout. The only reason this isn't it is because the markets swings are being blocked by that huge order at 0.002. Once that goes the market will go down and then rebound back up. Rinse repeat until breakout.

I know a little bit about triangles, but probably not as much as you.  I'm looking at the Poloniex chart and it looks like the triangle you speak of has 2 highs at the same exact point and a higher low.  The chart looks like it wants to move back higher, but the market can do anything as I'm sure you know. Who's to say several huge whales don't enter and push this thing back to 500K and vice versa back below 100K.  We don't know.
1366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - The first POS ANON on: June 02, 2014, 01:13:06 PM
Looks like someone does not want this over 21k..

Re Cinni, its just not a popular coin, it does have very swift transactions though and I do rate it, I just think there is no room for it...

The price is being kept artificially high by the 40k order @ 0.002, the market needs to correct and it can't. As soon as that order disappears we'll be back below 0.002 within minutes

Alternatively we are about to breakout, which I think is much more likely, I think the price is artificially low... Lets see who is correct.

Nope. The TA above is correct. We need to go down first before we can come back up again and attempt a breakout. This could last a few days.

The sooner idiot trader number 1 with his 40k order gets removed the sooner we can continue on with our downtrend, and the sooner we can reverse after that downtrend and attempt a breakout. Seriously. That order is reason the volume is so low. Everybody has their finger on the sell button but while that huge order is still on there's no point.

Trust me on this. It's kind of my job.

Ps: just for appeasement. I do think we'll reach 0.01 by mid July at the very latest, barring any technical fuckups.

This guy talks sense  Kiss

This guy talk sense for people who wants to bring the price down to get more coins from scared selling noobs....as he stated himself that is kind of his job.. in mid july this coin will be 0.05 to 0.1 now get your coins or cry later

Jesus Christ kids you don't realise how markets work do you? The price HAS to go down before we can breakout up. It's called price discovery after a correction. It involves the markets swinging up and down with lower highs and higher lows until a breakout. It happens all the time.

Wow. I can't believe I'm having to argue this, If you had any idea about what you were talking about apart from 'wow shiney chart look at the candles move, GOO GREEN!!' You would know exactly what I'm talking about.

Anyways. Until that 40k order goes the market is stalled. We're not breaking out until we retest 0.0018ish and the rebound to 0.0025. But whatever, what do I know.

I don't want to argue with you, but what's your reasoning that it has to go back to 18 again?  It already corrected below that?  How many times does it have to touch the bottom before it's "officially" corrected?
1367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][CHA] Chancecoin, a coin for betting in a decentralized casino on: June 02, 2014, 12:03:52 PM
Why are the developers nonexistent here? It's like a ghost town.

Because you can chat with them directly in the client.

You do realize it's more important for the devs to communicate on bitcointalk right now.  This is where more users will come from.  When the community is much larger, then it's ok to do all the communicating in the wallet.  I'm still having problems getting my mac wallet to work.
1368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 31, 2014, 05:31:01 PM
Check this logo out (taken from this tweet - https://twitter.com/CoinRocket/status/472790874024595456/photo/1), pretty sick:




Winner
1369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 08:42:51 PM
teamviewer was interesting. AlexGR... did you participate?

Did Propulsion see this?  For some reason, and I don't know what it is, I'm very interested in what he/she has to say.
1370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 07:36:32 PM
How much time does it take to make a testnet block explorer?  Make a bounty and get it going if it shuts people up.  Let's just do it.

Agreed. But you know what will happen next? "UH we need to see the code for the Block Explorer, we think it is manipulating the results"


they need more than more if you give they more.

It is a requirement to have a testnet block explorer especially when you are staking the whole entire coin on the promise of being anonymous.

To simply show a screenshot of "Unknown", and then have the dev refuse to show the explorer transaction is alarmingly scary.


Don't do that.  You had me believing you were actually genuine for a second.  Nobody refused anything.  Now you look sketchy.

1371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 07:13:25 PM
How much time does it take to make a testnet block explorer?  Make a bounty and get it going if it shuts people up.  Let's just do it.

Agreed. But you know what will happen next? "UH we need to see the code for the Block Explorer, we think it is manipulating the results"



Let's get a bunch of candidates the community can trust and let's bring it to a vote on someone to do a trusted test.
1372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 04:54:40 PM
rules of FUD  Grin

Not FUD, I hold and support XC (and not DRK). But if I don't get a clear answer to this question, it just means I will not host a DRK or XC mixing node is all. And yes, I am paranoid. Tongue


Yea, these are valid questions and concerns (one of many questions that relate to legal implications of cryptocurrency in general).  Probably need to be answered by someone with a law degree though.

Even a qualified lawyer wouldn't really know the answer.  Uncharted waters, so therefore it kind of is FUD.
1373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 02:13:17 PM
I think the rate should be raised to around 5%-7% so that more people take their coins off exchanges and stake them. This will lead to:

1. Reduced sell pressure.
2. Faster and more secure network.

Could possibly lead to:

1. People having more incentive to buy the coin.

There is no extra incentive to buy a coin because PoS is higher.  If this was true, then the price of coins with 10%+ PoS would be skyrocketing. And that's not happening. Also, higher PoS increases sell pressure because supply increases.
1374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 02:04:52 PM
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

I think it will be relative to the price of 1 XC.
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

Exactly my point, why would i hold my coins at 3.33% when i can cash out and invest at 9% safely

On the other hand: If it would be 10 % or more, XC would need continuous very high buying pressure to keep prices at least stable.
When you are looking for safe investments I don't know why you are in Crypto's anyway. Every single investment in Cryptos is very risky - you can gain 2000 % one day and loose everything on the next.

+ XC is raising more than 10% daily (except the last two days) - why would you miss this profit?

Also remember that when the Xnode has been added to the wallet that you will also collect transaction fees.  

That is true as well, but we need 1000 XC for an xnode and not 100, so we take more coins out of the supply.

The argument for raising the rate doesn't make sense.  It's not interest, you are just getting your share of the emission.   If a high PoS rate is what you are looking for then just pick any crap coin that gives you 10%+.

There are arguments to be made for both sides. As I said my biggest concern is slow and insecure network due to people not staking and/or keeping their coins on exchanges.

The argument just presented for raising the rate is because there is a misconception about what PoS really is.  That makes it a bad argument.  Now, if you think the rate should be raised because people don't really understand PoS and they think a higher rate means more profit, then I guess that's a different argument.
1375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 01:58:25 PM
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

I think it will be relative to the price of 1 XC.
As one of the large investors here I would like to point out that I find the 3.33% yearly is way too low.

My investments in "real life" bring my 9% yearly.

Just a thought.

You are going to profit more from the rise in price than from the PoS reward, however my concern with the 3.33% is that it's not enough incentive for people to keep their wallets open which is BAD for a PoS coin.

Exactly my point, why would i hold my coins at 3.33% when i can cash out and invest at 9% safely

On the other hand: If it would be 10 % or more, XC would need continuous very high buying pressure to keep prices at least stable.
When you are looking for safe investments I don't know why you are in Crypto's anyway. Every single investment in Cryptos is very risky - you can gain 2000 % one day and loose everything on the next.

+ XC is raising more than 10% daily (except the last two days) - why would you miss this profit?

Also remember that when the Xnode has been added to the wallet that you will also collect transaction fees.  

That is true as well, but we need 1000 XC for an xnode and not 100, so we take more coins out of the supply.

The argument for raising the rate doesn't make sense.  It's not interest, you are just getting your share of the emission.   In theory, the market cap shouldn't change because more coins have been issued pro rata to all holders.  If a high PoS rate is what you are looking for then just pick any crap coin that gives you 10%+.
1376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 12:15:56 PM
maybe XC today will hit again 0.003. will see.

Why does it matter?  You don't need to hang out in the thread if you just want to make trading profits.

I'm open to everyone in this thread. Traders have to be traders. They have to make money somehow. To me it doesn't matter but to some it might.

That wasn't my point really.  I'm open to everyone in the thread also.  I guess I should have just said don't worry about the short term price.  

Short term price stability gives investors more confidence. I am always trying to help the market reach equilibrium by selling high and buying low. If I really trust in a coin long-term, such as XC, then I only trade with around 30% of my total holdings.

This is crypto.  Short term price stability doesn't exist.
1377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 12:13:33 PM
maybe XC today will hit again 0.003. will see.

Why does it matter?  You don't need to hang out in the thread if you just want to make trading profits.

Just curious what you want to make?

I  should have said quick trading profits.
1378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 12:12:26 PM
maybe XC today will hit again 0.003. will see.

Why does it matter?  You don't need to hang out in the thread if you just want to make trading profits.

I'm open to everyone in this thread. Traders have to be traders. They have to make money somehow. To me it doesn't matter but to some it might.

That wasn't my point really.  I'm open to everyone in the thread also.  I guess I should have just said don't worry about the short term price.  
1379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 12:08:23 PM
maybe XC today will hit again 0.003. will see.

Why does it matter?  You don't need to hang out in the thread if you just want to make trading profits.
1380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update - The first POS ANON on: May 30, 2014, 11:40:23 AM
4 is ok but none is good enough to qualify for a logo

In accordance with the request.



+1 Sorry but the logos look like they were from the 80's.

Firstly, nowdays minimalistic design rules the industry. Secondly the warm colors and the use of gradients doesn't suit the name and the idea behind the coin.
+1 Grin

I don't like any of these. Sorry.
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