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1401  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-26 forbes.com - fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulb on: October 26, 2013, 03:14:27 AM

before someone fixed it, the link pointed to http://fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulbricht-alleged-owner-of-silk-road
1402  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Imputation Problem on: October 26, 2013, 02:27:04 AM

Yes, thx. I have been using Bitcoin Charts data, it is very convenient. The problem I have run into is getting Forex data. But these folks may have solved that problem for me: http://www.quandl.com/help/api

Oh, duh.  Interesting site.
1403  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market has peaked, sell off incoming. on: October 26, 2013, 02:20:54 AM
If you are right and this is that much talked about pattern, then this is bullish news. At 120-150 we form a base for Wave #1.  Last time the base was in the teens.

In my longer term count, this entire wave up from $65 was just wave 1 of 5.  Wave 1 ended at $32, Wave 3 ended at $266.  We have completed wave 1 of the 5 wave structure that will make up the longer term 5th wave.  After this corrective wave 2 completes, this count calls for wave 3 up, then 4 down, then 5 up to complete the long term 1-5 starting with the beginning of bitcoin trading.

Yes this is ultra bullish, but I'm talking weeks - months for most of these waves.  In between we will have some gut wrenching drops.
1404  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Imputation Problem on: October 26, 2013, 01:42:43 AM
http://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/
1405  Economy / Speculation / Re: Climb higher and higher like a bird in the sky on: October 25, 2013, 08:38:18 PM
btc will nevvvvverrr die god thats all i ever hear on this god damn thing. ya if we all cashed out it would be worth 5 bucks. (cuz of lost coins)

fuck that you can have your coins i cashed out at 210. latter. ill be back inat 150 stable with a whole lot more coins for thesame amount of money.

are you ok? you seem mentally unstable. go take a xanax dude.

Prescribing xanax to someone who is mentally unstable is just about the dumbest thing I've heard on here yet.  And this is bitcointalk!

sorry i'm not familiar with anti-psychotic meds

Then perhaps you shouldn't be making pharmaceutical recommendations.
1406  Economy / Speculation / Re: Climb higher and higher like a bird in the sky on: October 25, 2013, 08:08:38 PM
Drum roll for a possible tug of war (or not, I'm not sure). And if so, plenty of volume.

I hope so.  My bot is eating this action up.
1407  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: October 25, 2013, 08:07:44 PM
Press release Sunday, chill out.
1408  Economy / Speculation / Re: Climb higher and higher like a bird in the sky on: October 25, 2013, 08:06:00 PM
btc will nevvvvverrr die god thats all i ever hear on this god damn thing. ya if we all cashed out it would be worth 5 bucks. (cuz of lost coins)

fuck that you can have your coins i cashed out at 210. latter. ill be back inat 150 stable with a whole lot more coins for thesame amount of money.

are you ok? you seem mentally unstable. go take a xanax dude.

Prescribing xanax to someone who is mentally unstable is just about the dumbest thing I've heard on here yet.  And this is bitcointalk!
1409  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Imputation Problem on: October 25, 2013, 07:45:30 PM
Match them up by timestamp, and then do your volume binning.
1410  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-26 forbes.com - fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulb on: October 25, 2013, 07:44:08 PM
Common sense would make you think that the bitcoin community should react positive with this news. Like i said elsewhere, we are years away from them deciding the case, so those coins are not going to hit the market any time soon.... So, we know that those coins will be out of the loop for years, unless DPR strikes a deal, which I dont think is going to happen...

And in the mean time bitcoin grows, and when the FBI finally does sell them, they suddenly have a trillion dollars to spend on privacy invasion.

They don't need Bitcoin money for that. I personally think those Bitcoins will stay in government agency accounts and probably moved around. They could even use it for propaganda, they could send it to a particular group and spread it across the media to give Bitcoin a bad rep, without relinquishing control over their holdings. What we know about the state of internet privacy is the equivalent of the military announcing their "new" tech, something built years before and kept secret. They are always a good few years ahead in most technology.

LOL... I did an internship with the FBI.... just LOL.

You must be hired to spread propaganda then. Notme is a shill! Tongue

Nope.  They offered me a job, but I failed to get clearance since I was too honest about using drugs during college.  Most people I did them with have clearance and government jobs, but I'm not going to lie just to get a job.
1411  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sudden new largest bitcoin address as of 10/25 on: October 25, 2013, 07:41:27 PM
Just for clarity, they are NOT the FBI's bitcoins now.   Like all seized assets, IF the accused is convicted (that takes some time although less time if he has no money and is going to use a PD) then the FBI will liquidate these seized assets.   Cash, they keep.   Everything else gets auctioned off.   It is likely these BTC wallet(s) will be auctioned IF a conviction is achieved.
Is FBI FinCEN compliant? Tongue
I thought FinCEN said Bitcoin is money, US regulators have to get their shit together!...

FBI is exempt from money transmitter regulations
I thought FinCEN was on top of MIB, who are on top of NSA, which is on top of FBI/CIA... Smiley

http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/exceptions.html

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Exceptions - Certain MSBs are not required to register:

Solely an agent. - A person that is an MSB solely because that person serves as an agent of another MSB is not required to register. However, a person that is an MSB both because it engages in MSB activities on its own behalf and as an agent of another MSB, must register.

Stored value. - A person that is an MSB solely as an issuer, seller, or redeemer of stored value is not required to register. However, a person that is an MSB as an issuer, seller, or redeemer of stored value and engages in MSB activities (of a nature and value that cause the person to be an MSB on a basis other than stored value) must register.

U.S. Postal Service.

Government Agencies. Agencies of the United States, of any State, or of any political subdivision of any State.
I know mate, I am just joking because there was a guy from Free Banking site who was spreading FUD about the power of FinCEN on Bitcoin.
I deleted and blocked him from my Facebook page - he was the one that made an interview in a radio show, maybe 'Let's Talk Bitcoin', not sure...

If you joke requires such a lengthy explanation, involving experiences you had on different web site, it's probably not a good joke Tongue.
1412  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-26 forbes.com - fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulb on: October 25, 2013, 07:27:49 PM
Common sense would make you think that the bitcoin community should react positive with this news. Like i said elsewhere, we are years away from them deciding the case, so those coins are not going to hit the market any time soon.... So, we know that those coins will be out of the loop for years, unless DPR strikes a deal, which I dont think is going to happen...

And in the mean time bitcoin grows, and when the FBI finally does sell them, they suddenly have a trillion dollars to spend on privacy invasion.

They don't need Bitcoin money for that. I personally think those Bitcoins will stay in government agency accounts and probably moved around. They could even use it for propaganda, they could send it to a particular group and spread it across the media to give Bitcoin a bad rep, without relinquishing control over their holdings. What we know about the state of internet privacy is the equivalent of the military announcing their "new" tech, something built years before and kept secret. They are always a good few years ahead in most technology.

LOL... I did an internship with the FBI.... just LOL.
1413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sudden new largest bitcoin address as of 10/25 on: October 25, 2013, 07:22:01 PM
Just for clarity, they are NOT the FBI's bitcoins now.   Like all seized assets, IF the accused is convicted (that takes some time although less time if he has no money and is going to use a PD) then the FBI will liquidate these seized assets.   Cash, they keep.   Everything else gets auctioned off.   It is likely these BTC wallet(s) will be auctioned IF a conviction is achieved.
Is FBI FinCEN compliant? Tongue
I thought FinCEN said Bitcoin is money, US regulators have to get their shit together!...

FBI is exempt from money transmitter regulations
I thought FinCEN was on top of MIB, who are on top of NSA, which is on top of FBI/CIA... Smiley

http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/exceptions.html

Quote
Exceptions - Certain MSBs are not required to register:

Solely an agent. - A person that is an MSB solely because that person serves as an agent of another MSB is not required to register. However, a person that is an MSB both because it engages in MSB activities on its own behalf and as an agent of another MSB, must register.

Stored value. - A person that is an MSB solely as an issuer, seller, or redeemer of stored value is not required to register. However, a person that is an MSB as an issuer, seller, or redeemer of stored value and engages in MSB activities (of a nature and value that cause the person to be an MSB on a basis other than stored value) must register.

U.S. Postal Service.

Government Agencies. Agencies of the United States, of any State, or of any political subdivision of any State.
1414  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-26 forbes.com - fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulb on: October 25, 2013, 07:19:52 PM
Why is no one discussing the one REALLY important question: HOW were they able to break (supposedly) encrypted wallet and syphon money from it? If we assume it was a normal BitcoinQt wallet.dat, is there some kind of method to break it that is not universally known? As a community, we better find out everything about it, and do it fast...

Likely this:
1415  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sudden new largest bitcoin address as of 10/25 on: October 25, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
Just for clarity, they are NOT the FBI's bitcoins now.   Like all seized assets, IF the accused is convicted (that takes some time although less time if he has no money and is going to use a PD) then the FBI will liquidate these seized assets.   Cash, they keep.   Everything else gets auctioned off.   It is likely these BTC wallet(s) will be auctioned IF a conviction is achieved.
Is FBI FinCEN compliant? Tongue
I thought FinCEN said Bitcoin is money, US regulators have to get their shit together!...

FBI is exempt from money transmitter regulations
1416  Economy / Economics / Re: Why bitcoin isn't currency. on: October 25, 2013, 06:56:43 PM

Neither bitcoin nor USD are units. And this is bad.


No, it's a good thing, because in that sense a bitcoin is objectively no worse than a dollar.

Objectively no better either.


Except for it's hard supply limit.
1417  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market has peaked, sell off incoming. on: October 25, 2013, 06:55:25 PM


We're either completing wave 4 and my count was accurate or we have completed an ABC corrective and will resume the downtrend sometime between here and $147ish.



It may take some time to pick a direction though.

Wave 5 in progress.

Quote
Wave 5: Wave five is the final leg in the direction of the dominant trend. The news is almost universally positive and everyone is bullish. Unfortunately, this is when many average investors finally buy in, right before the top. Volume is often lower in wave five than in wave three, and many momentum indicators start to show divergences (prices reach a new high but the indicators do not reach a new peak). At the end of a major bull market, bears may very well be ridiculed (recall how forecasts for a top in the stock market during 2000 were received)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle#Elliott_Wave_personality_and_characteristics

Wave 5 completed, ABC corrective should end in price territory of Wave 4... ie $120-$150.
1418  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-26 forbes.com - fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulb on: October 25, 2013, 06:51:26 PM
Common sense would make you think that the bitcoin community should react positive with this news. Like i said elsewhere, we are years away from them deciding the case, so those coins are not going to hit the market any time soon.... So, we know that those coins will be out of the loop for years, unless DPR strikes a deal, which I dont think is going to happen...

And in the mean time bitcoin grows, and when the FBI finally does sell them, they suddenly have a trillion dollars to spend on privacy invasion.
1419  Economy / Speculation / Re: Less risk now then ever to buy Bitcoin? on: October 25, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
Are you kidding me??

Bitcoin has been as low as 60 and as high as 210 (using coinbase for data) in the past month.

Just yesterday it was above 200, now it's in the low 70's.

Bitcoin is as volatile as ever and it is EXTREMELY risk to buy right now. You could buy at $175 right now and tomorrow it is under 100.

That's only a risk if you know you'll have to sell tomorrow.

+1

Dollar cost averaging is they way to win in this market.
1420  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2013-10-26 forbes.com - fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulb on: October 25, 2013, 06:38:30 PM
Just curious, if they are going to liquidate or auction off the stash, do they have to find someone with MSB license to do that? who would that be?

Government agencies are exempted from money transmitter regulations.
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