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1481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: October 25, 2023, 10:02:38 AM
A couple of my friends have a slot game that they play together. This does not affect their relationship, on the contrary, I can say that when they lose, they lose with fun. When they are going to put money on the site, they all put up a capital together and take turns playing. If I give an example, 5 friends and each of them puts 100 dollars. This is 500 dollars in total and they enter the slot game with 500 dollars. Although they don't have an exact figure in their heads, if there is 2000 dollars, they play with the idea that if we take our money and let's split it. When this happens, the loss is everyone's loss and the gain is everyone's gain. There are also methods that do not affect friendships in such a way. Because they know this risk themselves and provide an investment accordingly.
There is no issue about it if they both understand and make fun of gambling. But this is a different story between husband and wife (and family) as usually they have been affected by this. Some family breakups have some common problem and issue which is finance --and one reason is one of the family members has been into gambling addiction which causes financial problems.
If ever our partner doesn't support our gambling habits/addiction, I would say that don't ever attempt to do this because will be the start of family problems and misunderstanding which leads to broken relationships and breakups.
If they have similar views on gambling, it will be easier to understand each other, of course they can gamble simultaneously. Yes, you are right, I have also seen many husband and wife relationships destroyed because a husband does not give the money they earn for their household needs, the husband spends a lot of money on gambling and this will of course lead to separation.

Even if they have similar views about gambling or a partner is both open to gambling, it still could affect their relationship as it affects their lives. I witness many relationships, not just those between husband and wife, but even friendships. Because of gambling, one of your friends could become greedy in terms of money. I remember seeing a topic here in the gambling section where, because of gambling, one of their friends started avoiding them as that friend won a game. Which shows how a person can show his true nature just because of money. Gambling exists and is valuable because of money. Even in gambling, money could become a root cost for many crimes and affect any relationship, but that's reality. We are all hungry for money, and we are all circled around money. As with gambling, gambling could affect many things, even a solid and pure relationship.
1482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes on: October 25, 2023, 08:25:52 AM
Well, unfortunately I haven’t been able to get AI to flat out predict the winner of sporting events yet. Sure, there’s ways around it with nonsense, but I’d really like to get the AI’s genuine opinion of who the winner of a sporting event will be. I guess this is still a no-no in the world of AI, but I’m certain it’s only a matter of time.

I guess it will never happen. The word "sport betting" refers to a game or gambling wherein real people are involved; they play sports like basketball and such. How do you think AI will predict who will be the winner? AI doesn't have the ability to predict the course of the game as it involves humans, which AI can't control, so it's nonsense that some will rely on it. Maybe AI could predict the winner. That's because there are only two winners in two teams; it is 50-50! I don't understand why some rely on AI; they don't think what the only capabilities of an AI are. Unless AI can control or manipulate the course of the game, that's when AI would be realiable in terms of sports betting. I'm not against AI; don't get me wrong, but I don't think AI has the capability to outsmart or predict anything that humans do.
1483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which games offer the best chance of a big win? on: October 25, 2023, 07:26:13 AM
I choose table games, as I'm more expert in those games, or rather, those games that I think have more chances of winning. why? because table games require skills and thinking. You fight other players who bet, and you need to outsmart and defeat them in order to win. I personally pick this one as I'm good with table games, because I think slots and other games require luck or are based on luck, like in slots, where there are probabilities yes, but it depends on your luck when you play and the probability hits you. Many choose slots, maybe because it is easy to play; you're just going to place a bet, roll, and wait to see if you will hit a duplicate combination. But I see that there are many opinions on what game they have a high chance of winning, so I think it will depend on the player itself and what he or she is good at.
1484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A person who won 600k$ in lottery on: October 25, 2023, 06:48:45 AM
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It is like this, things should always be destined so that we have the ability to respond to what we know, for example you can win $600k, which is enough a little more than half a million USD, not bad, you can buy a nice house, a good car, and the rest of the money you cannot throw on yourself, not even by buying unnecessary things, you should invest the rest of the money, why? Why is it the only way to multiply, but you don't know what to do? easy, ~

Yes, because with buying a nice house and a good car you've spent some money on yourself already, right? And that's not a small amount of money, to say the truth, that can easily take almost all of your won money. I'm not a big fan of cars, so, can't say about that, but I know that a nice house can cost you half a million USD, and I'm not talking about the most expensive ones. An average price in California is $780,000, for example, so, $600k wouldn't be enough.

And I totally agree with you about investing the rest of the money in Bitcoin. Especially today, when the price is low.

What if that person doesn't have an idea when it comes to bitcoin? So what you've said about "investing the rest of the money in Bitcoin" is not applicable to all people who don't have a slight idea about it. But maybe for some people like us that are prominent in the field of cryptocurrency or bitcoin, the number one thing that we will do is invest some or a large amount of our winnings in bitcoin because we see the potential profit in bitcoin, which is good timing right now. But treating yourself to some luxury things will not be bad, either because you deserve it or because the winner deserves it. Just control the expenses and buy only the things that you necessarily need. How I will I will win in lottery I already have plans on how will I spend some and how will I invest some.
1485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Maybe I should have taken this risk earlier. on: October 25, 2023, 05:00:27 AM
Maybe I should have invested when Bitcoin was 26 thousand dollars then maybe I could have made a good profit at this point but there is no point in regretting what I didn't do Of course I will think about the present now. I think the price of bitcoin can cross 40 thousand dollars so investing in bitcoin now will not be a wrong decision for me at all.

Well, buddy, think before you invest in bitcoin. Maybe you discovered bitcoin because of its sudden surge in price recently, and I think you only got hyped because of that and decided to invest in bitcoin using the money you've saved. I think before you invest, you should study first how bitcoin works and if you are really sure that your prediction is correct. because what if bitcoin decreases after you buy? Your capital could be gone if the percentage of downtrade is too low and your equity can't keep up. So do further research and study while you are also studying for your college, and if you are ready, then you can engage in investing, but of course with caution. Try a small amount of capital first, and if it is earned, then keep it. and invest the money you've earned in such a way that even if you lose it, it will not be hurtful for you.
1486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can somebody make a successful career in gambling on: October 24, 2023, 11:57:25 PM
As the gambling industry is evolving, I think innovations would have kicked in that can make someone create a career from gambling. I do not know how this can be achieved but I feel it is possible.

Making gambling a full time job might be seen as risky but I still feel one can make gambling full time job and a career.

What do you all think?
Gambling is completely based on luck. Those who came to build their future careers around this game have ruined their careers. To my knowledge no one has ever made a career out of gambling. One in a hundred or  million has made a career out of winning the jackpot.  But winning the jackpot is the ultimate luck.  And winning this fortune usually does not happen to everyone. Moreover, to my knowledge no one has ever made a career out of this gambling platform.

I agree with this; I think the OP is not in the right mindset. Well, I don't judge it; it is what you want to do, but making gambling a career is crazy to hear, and I guess many here have their violent reactions to the post. Only gambling as a career will do you nothing; you will only lose too much money. Unless you are very lucky and you win a big jackpot, one jackpot will change your life totally, but it is too much to ask. I advised the OP that if he really wants to continue that career path, you better be ready because you will not instantly earn much.
1487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income on: October 24, 2023, 11:35:34 PM
Gambling as a main source of income is a big no; it will only bring misery and bad effects to the person who gambles. But sad reality: many gamblers are hoping to get rich instantly with the use of gambling. It's their desire to keep gambling until they get rich or have a good hit, but in reality, it will only make you suffer. Even if you win at some point, it will only cover the money you've lost, or worse, it is still enough, and little by little, you won't notice that your debt will only increase than you've earned. So gambling can never be a source of income; it can only be treated as "entertainment" or a side hustle. Maybe some become rich because of gambling, but that is their luck that brought them there, and not all of us have the same luck as they do. So gamblers out there, remove the hope you have that you will be rich by gambling; it will only hurt you.
1488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Learning from those who have experience on: October 24, 2023, 10:27:22 PM
~snip~
yep, indeed everything you say is very correct, when an addict who wants to recover from his addiction gets great support from the people around him, it makes his mental strength become more enthusiastic to recover from his addiction.

this is the negative impact of gambling too often, ignoring the risks and not being able to control oneself, becoming addicted, which has a slightly complicated stage recovering from the addiction, and conversations like this should make us all understand how risky gambling is if we take it too seriously, such as thinking about getting money, which ends in regret. chasing defeat and becoming a loss. I just hope that anyone reading here is a little more aware to really understand how gambling works.
It will also raise awareness in him that he can heal with the help of the people around him because he knows they care about his life. This will give him greater enthusiasm to quickly recover from his gambling addiction and not repeat the mistakes that made him fall into gambling.

He has felt the negative impact of gambling, so he intends not to experience it again. And even if he returns to gambling, he will be more responsible than before because he has experienced bad events in his past. However, some people will not return to gambling and will probably help other gambling addicted people to provide something useful that can help other people recover from their gambling addiction.

If that was the after effects then it may give it a good practice but most of the time, when an addicted gambler goes back to his usual way of gambling things is un-controllable there's always a possibility that he will just repeat that same mistake and will undergo with the same problem that he just went thru, it's best not to come back or not to try playing again to surely quit away from it and if chances will be given, guiding others with this possible problem to raise will be a good help avoid anyone to engage and possibly get addicted.
In not all cases, I have experienced what the OP says, or I get addicted to gambling, but I quit at some point because I notice how I become miserable. But it is not easy; you will still have the urge to gamble, so instead of totally quitting, I let my mind and hobby adjust. What I did was still play, but in a controlled state, and slowly I limited my gambling expenses until I noticed that I didn't hunger for gambling anymore. Of course, I did many things to achieve that, but I started to find other things that could get my attention. Like trading crypto or playing games, and playing sports with friends. In short, in order for me to overcome my addiction, I simply find other things that are more meaningful than wasting money on gambling. I don't literally quit gambling; let's say I only play once a month just for entertainment, and the money I use is the money that I can afford to lose.
1489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sometimes just flex it ( luck is all you need) on: October 24, 2023, 02:20:01 PM
Hello mates,



So sometimes don't think just flex it and let luck do it part friends.
If you  are only use High bets that moment ? am not sure if we are  still talking about this here now because the  faith of Luck may change or even the system will bring you this huge winning percent.
and about Flexing ?
for me  this is just a coincidence and not as how it use to be portray here , but still a way to congratulate you is enough to address this thread of yours.



Even if it is a coincidence or not, he is still lucky because he hit a bet, which is great, but my concern is that we only see the good part; how about the other bet? I'm not contradicting; I just want to raise awareness for everyone. You see, we only see winnings, right? But how about the others? This is worth the flex I get, but is it worthy? Why do I ask? Maybe you won that amount of money, but on the back side, you have lost bets that could be higher than your winnings. You see, not just the OP, but other gamblers tend to flex their abilities, and there's nothing wrong with that. It could just give false hope for the readers that also do gambling; they will have hope that they can do it and will never be satisfied until they also have a win that they could flex, but in the process, you lose more than you win.
1490  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My little research. on: October 24, 2023, 01:16:53 PM
You do not need to incorperate Bitcoin payment into your business at this level since you said its a "little business", the volatility that goes with the cryptocurrencies has no regards for what level of business you are currently running, it can make you fortunate and can also go north, depending on what the market presents.

I mean, SMEs and freelancers can simply put a QR code or even a wallet address just to enable Bitcoin payments. Why need for payment processor? It's going to convert everything to fiat anyway.

If you want crypto payments pointless to force crypto users to pay high fees for using processor when it's cheaper + secure to send to your wallet direct!

I agree; I don't see a point wherein the OP will include bitcoin or crypto payments, as he himself says that the business is small. I'm not discriminating; in fact, it is good that you have a business and yet you still study, like bitcoin, to earn more. I salute the OP with that, but I don't think including bitcoin payments will be a good idea for you and for your business. People, even crypto holders, are still not ready for that concept. Yes, there are some willing to do that, but not all. It is still a small percentage. And I think you are not ready to accept that concept, as you still said that you are new in this field or in bitcoin. I guess just focus on growing your business first, and then little by little, you may include bitcoin in your business. That would be great that you are futuristic.
1491  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Before you take sides on: October 24, 2023, 10:39:48 AM
Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

Many gamblers have the experience of getting banned and the next thing that comes to their mind was the injustice from the gambling platform, they wouldn't want to pay attention to the areas where they are also missing out, all the wrong steps they have also taken and the rate of what they have done in violation of their rules, all they will be shouting is for being banned, the casino is scam and they go ahead to report for scam accusation without mentioning their own side at fault.

But licensed casino will never ever do that according to this article Can Casinos Kick You Out for Winning  "In general, the answer is no. Casinos are not allowed to ask patrons to leave simply because they are winning. This is because it is illegal for casinos to discriminate against patrons based on their race, gender, or any other protected class. Additionally, this would be a violation of the patron’s right to due process and would be considered unfair and unethical." It simply state that no matter how much a gambler win he/she cannot be legally kicked out of the casino unless they violate certain rules, the casino that would do that can face charges from the gamblers if found guilty and it will cost them much or worst be closed. So I think getting kicked out in casino because of winning too much is more likely happening less, maybe some there are some cases but I think those casinos are scam.
1492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often is your luck in gambling? on: October 24, 2023, 08:52:20 AM
I don't know if there is a specific time when I'm lucky in gambling. Over the course of 5 years, I still don't know when or how often I'm lucky when I gamble, but I feel it. There are times that I have a strong hunch. If I'm lucky, I will strongly feel confident, but I still don't know the formula for or when that strong hunch will come. It's not always, but it helps me a lot, so I often follow my hunch and instinct as I prove that it has quite a bit of accuracy. But not because of that, I will be addicted. No, I still have control over when I play or how much money I bet. If I let myself sink into thinking that I have a strong instinct, I know it will be a bad decision for me, so I still gamble wisely and bet wisely to minimise my losses.
1493  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How will it affect your life if bitcoin price comes to $1 million per bitcoin? on: October 24, 2023, 07:24:47 AM
How will it affect your life if bitcoin price comes to $1 million per bitcoin ?

Well, I think I still have opportunities to profit from bitcoin at that price, but if, for instance, it happens right now, I will lose a lot of money as I hold quite a bit of bitcoin as my long-term investment. But if it happens, I will accept it and start to analyse the bitcoin price again to see if it will rise again. If so, I will buy and hold a lot of bitcoin again and wait for the price to go up or bull run. Just like what happened earlier this date, bitcoin shocked a lot of holders as it made a quite bull run from $30,000 to $35,000, which I missed and regret. But I'm happy because it is a sign that bitcoin might do a huge bull run that many people await, and I hope it might surpass its own all-time high. and I can't wait for that to happen, so I think $1 million worth of bitcoin might be impossible.
1494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Changed the game you gamble on? share your story. on: October 24, 2023, 05:29:09 AM
I experienced this in lottery games. I quit playing since I cannot afford to lose over and over again. I need to save money instead of using it into gambling. The salary I got from my day job was just wasted on gambling during that time. I only got small savings for my daily needs. I might gamble back but with caution.

It's a good decision to quit gambling at the start when you realise that you don't want to lose money anymore. It's a good thing you noticed, and you wake up early rather than sinking yourself into stuff you know you can't afford. As you say, you only use your salary to fund your gambling. I advised that if you think you will not win in that game or if you know that it will not be a good path, then I suggest you don't come back again in that game. If you really want to gamble, maybe find another game that suits you. Lottery games only rely on luck, so you never know when you will win. You might win, but it may cost you a lot, which is not good. So I think you better find another game and, of course, prepare capital that you can afford to lose.
1495  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it better to invest or trade Bitcoin? on: October 23, 2023, 11:44:40 PM
It's better to invest for the long term if you don't have comprehensive knowledge about trading because you might end up losing your capital if you mess up with the wrong moves. in order to be a successful trader you need to go through a lot of trial and error and you need a lot of money from that because it needs personal experience in order to catch up and learn the movement of the price and how trading works in the crypto market. therefore, you can just simply invest and hold for the long term and at the same time, read some basic knowledge regarding trade.

Investing doesn't mean you will just hold a currency or crypto; it still requires analysis and knowledge. why? Investing in or holding a cryptocurrency is not just buying and waiting to earn. No, that's not it. You will first need to know if this price is the right price to buy or if this is the right time to buy and hold. What if you buy bitcoin at a certain price but it doesn't go well? There's a right timing and certain point perfect to buy and hold a coin. So both investing and trading require knowledge and analysis; it's just that they have different levels. Well, it depends on the person's reference to what they can do and what they want to do. But for me, it has the same risk and a lot of profit potential. For me, I do both trading for short-term earnings and investing or holding for long-term earnings.
1496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: October 23, 2023, 11:15:58 PM

Quitting gambling is easy to say but very difficult to do, it's the same as being addicted to alcohol or cigarettes and maybe drugs too but that doesn't mean it can't be treated. It's curable, you just need to be strong, think positive always. You will get through it just don't give up.

One of the best thing to do to completely forget those addictions are to do something that will make you forget it by going with others who helps you not to think about it until you don't have any cravings about your addictions. That's why people when they are completely addicted to alcohol drinks or any other things like drugs, choose to go to rehabilitation in order to cure themselves along with others who want to change their lives positively with the help of some expert advisers.



But sometimes, due to severe addiction, even asking for help from your friends or family will not change anything; only you will make the change. Yes, we could rely on rehabilitation, but we don't have a guarantee that it will work. I know a lot of cases that undergo rehabilitation, but still, a few months later, when they have a taste of gambling again, even the slightest will make them unstoppable again. The only solution I think is to let that person learn his lesson; if he is beyond help, then let them suffer; let them discover themselves and the consequences of their actions. I'm sure they will face a certain point that will change them, and they will quit gambling by themselves. But still, things could go wrong, and that, I think, is up to them. They are the ones who want that; they are the ones who're responsible for themselves.
1497  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cockfighting? on: October 23, 2023, 09:07:18 PM
Here in the Philippines, cockfighting is still popular among the middle- to old-aged; it is still around, and many people still do this stuff, especially men who are also fathers. It is very prominent in the Philippine province, and I'd say it is entertaining to watch this kind of betting because you will choose which chicken you want to bet on. I personally sometimes bet on this kind of game. Even if cockfighting seems like a traditional way of gambling, it still copes by means of social media. Right now, they offer online betting where you can watch the live stream of two chickens fighting. It only shows that this kind of traditional gambling can still be around by utilising the internet. So because of that, many more people bet on this gambling game because it's accessible and easy to play. Just place a bet and wait to see who wins.
Wihout judging, what do you see people getting from that? Do people in generally care that animals are needlessly hurt? Do you? What it was bigger animals? Like monkeys, dogs, cats, cows or elephants? Would it be as entertaining and why?

And still i am not judging but just wondering what their and your motivations are. Do you realize that anmals can't give their consent to being part of it? It's not like they choose to fight. They are in the situation that humans put them in where they can't escape from and it's basically fight or die. I am just interested how some people see this as entertainement, and how their thoughts on this differ to me. To me this is just a sad and cruel way to see that people's empathy doesn't reach to animals.
"Cockfighting" it only involves chicken, and based on this post legalonlinegambling Philippines set up a law which is HB 8910 gives the GAB the ability to completely oversee e-sabong gambling regulation and governance. This will bring the act of online cockfighting out of the back alleys and illegal betting operations and into the limelight of legal gambling in the Philippines. It means even cockfighting is illegal in the past, now they set up a law which will make cockfighting legal just they should follow a certain rules and law. And cockfighting doesn't mean that an animal or the chicken will die, its like a boxing, there are certain grounds that could determine who is the winner. I understand your concern but we can't control this stuff, just like horse racing or such, don't be a hypocrite, you eat meat everyday.
1498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cockfighting? on: October 23, 2023, 12:40:46 PM

If you take a look at the history behind cockfighting, you will realize it is a very ancient practice in many places where those animals were available for the folk population to raise and breed.
I do not know much about Bangladesh, but I would not be surprised if it was very widespread in the past and now has continued to be practiced in villages in that country, because the traditional weight it has.
Here in my country, we may not have as much history with that tradition, and yet we still partake in it, being Bangladesh a country of the old world with longer history and access to cocks.

In the end, all of this goes back onto the tradition versus progress argument. Whether tradition is such of a an important thing, so it is necessary to make animals to fight themselves in a savage way.

The cock fighting was the very old way of the gambling by our previous generation,the ancient people use the animals for the gambling.The history says that,the gambler will play the cock fight and breed the winning cock to the next generation.Actually they will kill the beaten cock and eat as their food.This was the strongest belief by the cock fighting in most of the cock fighting origin countries.Actually in your country Bangladesh,the gambler will do the cock fighting.The cock fighting was still available at the Pakistan,India,Vietnam and some of the Asian countries.This country people had huge wish on this game.

Here in the Philippines, cockfighting is still popular among the middle- to old-aged; it is still around, and many people still do this stuff, especially men who are also fathers. It is very prominent in the Philippine province, and I'd say it is entertaining to watch this kind of betting because you will choose which chicken you want to bet on. I personally sometimes bet on this kind of game. Even if cockfighting seems like a traditional way of gambling, it still copes by means of social media. Right now, they offer online betting where you can watch the live stream of two chickens fighting. It only shows that this kind of traditional gambling can still be around by utilising the internet. So because of that, many more people bet on this gambling game because it's accessible and easy to play. Just place a bet and wait to see who wins.
1499  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Bitcoin were a physical currency. on: October 23, 2023, 10:31:01 AM
If bitcoin doesn't exist or is a physical currency, then nothing; if bitcoin is just a normal currency, then it is like what we use now; we don't have any forums like this or anything related to bitcoin. And I think nothing will change if bitcoin is just a normal currency because it is physical. But thankfully, bitcoin is digital. Why? Because from a project to nothing, now the most famous digital currency has created a lot of opportunities to earn. It also marked the beginning of the crypto currency era, with more currencies emerging to provide more options for investors and holders. And now bitcoin is becoming the future currency and will eventually change a lot of things in terms of finances. I'm glad I spend time knowing and studying bitcoin as it gives me opportunity to earn and do the things I like, buy the things I want.
1500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: October 23, 2023, 08:27:32 AM
I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
Some of them I think has this addiction thing but some may have the ability to be a profitable gambler or might have the higher chance of luck. If you bet once and then become successful then that is 100% pure luck. Ratio could be 1000bets/1luck so we need more bets to become successful in gambling therefore if we keep on chasing the jackpot I think it might lead us to addiction.
But that only makes you addicted and, in the worst case, suffers from great loss. As you said, the ration can be 1000 bets per luck. The word "luck" implies that we will never know when it will come, so it has either a good or bad impact. Relying on gambling to become successful is not a good idea. Maybe some people become rich because of gambling, like Lotto, but that doesn't mean it will apply to everyone else. Based on my research, there are more people who become poorer or richer than others because of gambling. Yes, because of addiction, and what factor leads them to addiction—simply hoping to become rich or just for a hobby? So I think "successful" and "addict" are not good things to be together. Why? Addictions mean bad. Even if you've gained a fortune in gambling and still gamble excessively, there's still a chance that you will get back what you've started or worse, become worse.
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