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1581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 23, 2020, 06:38:48 PM
Do not doubt Juventus and their talent to get a three point out of any game. Sure this is soccer and there is always a chance to lose points in any game, do not forget that Liverpool had an undefeated season for like 30 weeks or something and then lost to Watford 3-0 a team that has a hard time not to relegate to championship.

So, Juventus goes out there on the pitch every single game they play (hell on most champions league games as well) as the favorites and a team that could win every single game they play in the league, the times they lose are usually the times they just have either a bad luck or just do not feel perfectly fine. Bologna played as well as you can hope for them to play and at the end of the day Juventus was just the better team and the goal from Dybala was fantastic, like he never got sick and put that foot on the ball with pure power.
1582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: June 23, 2020, 05:25:32 PM
Look I am not saying Denver or Dallas is bad teams but you guys have to be dreaming if you think Dallas versus Denver west finals is even possible. I do not think neither of them will go to finals, these are some other level of teams that you are talking about. Los Angeles will be the finals for sure, as long as teams are healthy it will definitely be Lakers versus Clippers, and even in a case where it is not both of them, we have Utah and Rockets that are waiting to take that spot as well.

So, for Denver and Dallas to be at west finals you have to eliminate Lakers, eliminate clipplers, eliminate Utah and eliminate Rockets. You are expecting awfully a lot from one team that never been to playoffs together and another that is basically 2-3 years in playoff adventure versus teams with multiple championship fmvp players.
1583  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀Rocketpot.io 🚀| 1 BTC WELCOME BONUS | Multiply Your BTC ✅ | Win Jackpots 💰 on: June 23, 2020, 04:28:18 PM
JollyGood I know you have been very helpful towards the community by warning everyone about the shady business' and that is a good thing, however this feels like an empty question. Dude is saying that his investment was getting lower and lower while the profit for the casino went up, which is clearly saying there is something wrong that causes them to lose money and that is very shady sounding thing and should be suspiciously looked at.

I do not really how he would suggest the website to anyone else, he would obviously tell everyone to stay away until this is fixed or there is an explanation. Even if they somehow say that there is a very good explanation for all of this and they roll it back and give everyone their money, you are free to think they were still trying to do something shady but didn't because they got caught.

Interesting comments. I noted you also had issues withdrawing your bankroll funds before the process was completed.

What was your overall opinion and experience of participating in business with this website and its team? Would you be able to recommend it to other investors or would you advise others to stay clear?
1584  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST ☕SOCIAL➡🔺PLINKO🎲DICE🎰SLOT🔲KENO on: June 23, 2020, 03:53:09 PM
well not all site are same . on the other there are nice offer like when your already at a higher level you can earn bonuses without even doing anything . reaching a high level is still worth it if thats the case   . smaller levels still have rakebacks , i prefer to reach at least one level to enable those rakebacks so that everytime i gamble i can earn something   . here at bitvest they say you need to be atleast level 1 to be qualified on rain , and we know rains here are nice . this can be the goal for other users on why they want to level up .
It is not really a way to earn money obviously, it is just a way people share their happiness and I like it as well. I got it only once in my life, but that is good because I think having it only once is a way to see it is fair and it is for everyone and I did it get it so I know they are not just sharing it with one of their accounts to another of their accounts, they are actually do give away to people.

This is why I think it is crucial to get it at least once so you know they are legit. You might think bitvest is a cool place that wouldn't lie about these things but I have seen so many good places turn bad I just wanted to make sure and I did thanks to this. Now I am willing to never get it, people who actually do need it could get it and play with it who otherwise couldn't.
1585  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving economy at the cost of what? on: June 23, 2020, 01:59:02 PM
Money, power and the economy is more important than the lives of many, this is the sad reality of our lives.
I disagree. Because this is not the case of most developed countries. Only on some countries, due to improper governments and its laws, they are not caring about each and every individual's life. A true republic will definitely care about their citizen the most than anything else.

The risk of getting infected is much higher when you go outside and hangout with many people, well it is still your choice especially if the Democracy is too much and abused by one individual.
I do see many government has already started allowing their people to get back to working place so that they could save their economy. Now the responsibility of protecting against pandemic just shifted to individuals that it is supposed to be government's.

The rise of every economy on its costly way, this is the new normal so you have to be healthy to survive as well.
Rising your economy must be the secondary option for most governments right now because they are right now working on saving it from not deeply falling down. Yes, people must need to adopt the "new normal" to live in social life so that they could save their lives as well as their nation's economy.
1586  Economy / Economics / Re: Covid-19 effect on your country's economy!!! on: June 22, 2020, 08:32:01 PM
I am not going to lie I was one of those people who said this wasn't that big of a deal and it wouldn't really matter in few months as well. Boy was I wrong! However to defend myself we had other viruses before, the Sars the Ebola the Swine flue and stuff like that and honestly none of them hit my nation, we didn't had any of them, and even when they eventually reached here it wasn't that much, we had only 3 people die of Ebola in the entire nation for example.

So, I thought it would be something like that and nothing more. Of course now I know that it wasn't like that and thousands of people died and we are going outside with masks and we can't even be close to each other as well. So, I would have to say the best course of action is to take defenses on things even if you think it won't hit you.
1587  Economy / Economics / Re: Current Food Shortage and Economic Decline Caused by Pandemic on: June 22, 2020, 07:22:17 PM
I think that is starting to happen everywhere. Our borders are still closed and there is no way to import any food. Right now the government has plans to give out a no-interest loans to farmers in the country so that they can start growing food, lots of it. I can’t wait to see how that goes. And I’m constantly praying for the virus to be over, it has really affected things in the way that we can’t take it.

It is very difficult to live like this. And economy of most countries keeps falling, we have no other option than to just ease the lockdown and go back to our work. Fortunately I guess the agriculture related works on my country is not getting affected hence I guess there could be less chances for food production falls below the level of scarcity. Still, the food transport might get hit worst as transport related things might get delayed or cancelled which may trigger shortage of foods even in my country.
1588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE ORDER OF ALT PUMPS?? on: June 22, 2020, 05:28:38 PM
Small and micro coins could pump without reasons at all. Im not sure that there could be the right order for pumps
I think so, it's quite difficult to predict which coin that will be pumped and whales have its own criteria for a coin that will get a pump. The news can be considered as an important factor to determine the coin that will be pumped too.
The things that already explained by OP never happened.
They are just mere imagination. That is why if people ordinary make predictions, it does not happen that way.
Sometimes, they also study the movement of whales and yet they fail in their predictions. Even whales give their strategies trials if it is going to work.
Yes, OP's assumption must be an imagination but I wish if there could be some pattern on altcoin pumping then I am sure I will catch all of them easily. Unlike we do dream no market is working in an expected pattern. But, all the markets are working with a reason and if we are skilled enough to find those reasons out, then we can easily make more money with pumps more easily.

Moreover a same set of inverters will not be interested on set of marketcap coins/tokens. So, there are very less chances for what OP mentioned to be happening. Unlike we do imagine not all institutional fund management groups are working together because one group may trap another hence they do prefer working independent. So, altcoin pumps to happen on marketcap wise got very less chances. Still I am going to follow to find out any pattern like OP mentioned and for any other pattern if possible so that I may make some extra money Wink.
1589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance deserves the first Position on CMC on: June 22, 2020, 04:50:23 PM
Who could challenge Binance, they have the volume, their coin is doing great and majority of traders have an account here, what they do and what they say have an impact in the market, and it's every coin's goal is to get in Binance, the wide is  very wide for the second and third spot, they get the big slice of the pie.
Even all the points that you have mention is not true with binance, still they may enjoy the top position coinmarketcap as they own it. From driving the traffic from coinmarketcap purposes alone they might have bough it, I believe strongly. I agree binance is good and most people here are holding account with them but I feel that is not enough thing to guide new visitors of coinmarketscap to sign in with their exchange. But, it is their business model and we cannot do anything about that.

In recent times binance made lots of changes into coinmarketcap and I guess this again will get them more visitors. Previously coinmarketcap was accused for manipulating exchange volumes and manipulating listing of coins with fake marketcap and many other such things. But, I guess the new management from binance will not go repeating them so that they retain the same reputation like binance.
1590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 40+ crypto companies comes together for one solution on: June 21, 2020, 08:37:56 PM
The well known businesses in crypto industry, BitGo, BitPay, Bitrue, Bitso, Bitstamp, Blockchain.com, Brave, BTC Markets, CipherTrace, Coinone, Crypto.com, Huobi, Independent Reserve, Liquid, Ripple and many more are doing a partnership to bring an universal PaymentID system where users be able to send and receive cash and crypto interchangeably and globally.
If anyone can make global crypto adoption possible, it's this partnership. What impact do you think this would make?
Anything which is not ensuring privacy of users and not compatible with decentralization may not get consistent support from this crypto space. If they work in a way to ensure individual's privacy oriented project then we can see they may stay with us. A payment processor is needed for linking all of us for quick and reliable payment methods and I guess this may provide such an opportunity.

I do dream about instant bitcoin payments so that I start using BTCs for my shopping without waiting for confirmations to happen which usually may take up to 10 minutes of time. If these companies work on bringing such a system then we can expect this community to support them on first glance itself.
1591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do I need ICO? on: June 21, 2020, 06:07:53 PM
if from my observation people only like ICO to the extent of 20%, 80% is to follow IEO in large exchanges,
because ICO has a bad history of investors will not take the same risk
99% of people in this market will stay away from ICOs. There are so many ICo scams in this market and people have seen that, if they intend to hold an ICO at the current stage, the project will surely fail. Come and agree on exchanges, which is the only way to raise money from the community
You may assume about 100% of people as well. Because, if there could be any of forum members still prefer to contribute on ICO then they must be shill of the same projects and must be advertising themselves to lure other naive investors. This had happened many times. Those shills are here to misguide many people here hence we should not listen to them and should not include those exceptional people as true investors.

I am not seeing any possibilities for ICOs to be returning; because there are enough exchanges to support the real projects hence if devs are really serious about their project then they may approach only exchanges to start with their IEO rather then risking on ICO with this community. Only devs who are new to this forum may try ICO here without knowing what happened on this forum few years back.
1592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Blockchain gambling are ushering in new development opportunities? on: June 21, 2020, 12:52:51 PM
New technologies are always helping to new developments and not just in gambling but everywhere but if those developments are not helping in improving user experience then I believe no such development will persist. People will simply opt to be sticking with what they have been used/got practice to. This is what exactly happening right now with the most of the dapps. There are new developments are happening but unfortunately most of them are not up to the expectation of gambler's in enhancing experience.

I'm not seeing any of new blockchain based gambling are sustaining. They do and come on same pace. Moreover, technology on one particular field is only up to 20% contribution alone. The rest are based on what people demand and how devs try to fulfill them. But, unfortunately in gambling field, gamblers are too busy on trying existing thing which makes them unable to demand for new experiences which eventually impacts on success of new innovations as well.
1593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: June 21, 2020, 08:49:22 AM

Each person behaves differently in a state of strong alcohol intoxication. Someone becomes more relaxed and sociable, someone falls asleep, someone loses control and becomes very generous, and there are those who become very aggressive and can start a row if they lose.
However, I have never seen such people in a casino. Perhaps the security guards control the process and do not allow such people to get drunk.

That's why there is security and CCTVs, to remove those people that are not thinking straight anymore. They want to avoid the mess as much as possible and not bother those players. Because if a fight or trouble escalates, that will be a loss on their side. Casinos don't want that as much as possible. The show must go on.

This means that the casino security services do it very efficiently or skillfully. I have never seen a very drunk person taken out of the hall. I only once saw a person who reacted aggressively to a big loss being taken out, but he was sober.
Yes, I also have noticed many time about overdrinking is not a problem there as long as not disturbing the funny mood of gamblers but if you complain about gambling in any manner then you will not be allowed to continue any more. Physical security officers need to be more proactive so that they can ensure about no big messy things are not happening.

I heard some higher officials including security people to mingle into gamblers like other gamblers to watch any kind of breach and then signal to control room if anything unusual happens. I have not seen any such people doing but I guess it could be another thing might be happening on physical casino just to ensure their environment go intact. From all these I just conclude running a physical casino is not a simple business rather than that, I may go simply owning an online casino.
1594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best welcome offer for you? on: June 21, 2020, 06:29:24 AM
I would still prefer to play with those legit casino gambling than those casino gambling that offers bonuses but once you play it you will regret trying it. Better to play with those legit casino gambling without something to offer on you but you will assure yourself that you will receive your prizes or reward once you win the game.

Almost all casinos started with neutral reputation, in this case no one knows whether the site is legit or not. It is also not the main idea of this topic, as it is about what welcome bonus that may attract you as a gambler. Just imagine that all sites are new, no one is considered as legit so what welcome bonus that may make you to join and play?
I understand he tried to mean with old and reputed houses and not about new houses. Because, I usually do that exactly. Whatever offer a new casino will be offering, I do not mind. Because, I am not ready to risk with new/unknown houses. It may be due to the reason of, suppose if I manage to make big profits out of those welcome bonus and if that house is a scam one, then all my efforts will go in vain.

So, not showing interest on any kind of welcome bonus from a new house is just a precautionary measurement from my side to make sure that I am always gambling with the possibility of withdrawing to my personal wallet. Recently one new house offered up to 10 deogecoins as a sign up bonus. I have availed and I enjoyed the game by testing the new house because I have prepared myself not to go for up to withdrawing level (because of it was only dogecoins) but decided to enjoy the game by experiencing all new graphics.
1595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: June 20, 2020, 08:53:41 PM
Wait a minute, he is waived? I didn't know Cousins was waived by the Lakers because he was injured, I thought he was still with the team but just on injured status. They waived him on February 23th and ever since that moment he wasn't playing for any team but to be honest by march the league was postponed anyway. This playoffs and pandemic could be the best thing that ever happened to him. If he is feeling better and can play this dude could go out there with any team and could prove that he still has his talents, just be a force inside for rebounds and even that would be great to get a new team.

Without the pandemic he would be sitting the whole year out and would play next year but thanks to Covid-19 the league was postponed and he might have time to play the game even if he is out of shape and needs to play some minutes to get back on his feet.
1596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 20, 2020, 08:20:12 PM
^That was such a clear sight of win for Wolfsburg, they won 4-1 and that is really a huuuuuge win for them. 1.60 for this game was a very good odds, there is really not that type of odds you can get for such a clear game most of the time. I have found one in La Liga recently where Alaves who is 12th in the league gets 4.5 odds on Celta Vigo which is 17th in the league.

I do not care about injuries and I do not care about red cards or I do not care about anything at all, there must be some reason why those are the odds but a 12th team getting 4.5 odds on a game against 17th team looks suspicious. This was 1.60ish so it is not even that bad, people knew Wolfsburg would win but didn't give them a clear win and was very wrong because game was 4-1 clearly easy for Wolfsburg, the other one looks suspiciously weird.
1597  Economy / Service Discussion / Now blockchain.com offers 4.5% annual interest for holding BTC with them? on: June 20, 2020, 05:30:15 PM
Just now I received mail from blockchain.com (I double checked it is right domain as I do get fake similar domains for verifying my account) on The fastest and easiest way to buy crypto. In that they also mentioned about earning interest on BTC deposits.

Here is the full contents of mail:
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Hi there,
Buying bitcoin is the best way to get started on your crypto journey. That’s why we’re excited to roll out our new and improved Buy Crypto feature, so you can quickly and easily purchase bitcoin and other cryptos.

Simply log in to your Wallet, click Buy Crypto, verify your identity, and use a debit card, credit card or your bank account to purchase crypto — all in a matter of minutes!

Once you've made your purchase, you can deposit bitcoin into our new Interest account and earn 4.5% annually.

Seems, we must need to clear KYC and must need to purchase cryptos to get eligible for interest earning.

If it works similar to freebitco.in's daily interest earning opportunity then I guess it may get more attention among this community.

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As demanded, here is the screenshot:
1598  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 7 Things have to do to become a Good Crypto Trader on: June 19, 2020, 10:27:17 PM
Your second point – accepting losses is very important. In fact that is the very first thing that people should learn to do here. I’m starting to notice that a lot of newbies don’t know about the risk.

I can remember a young guy chatting me on WhatsApp, he got my number from someone and was asking me about trading cryptocurrency. He was so in a hurry to make money and get rich from trading and kept asking me how much he would make and when he will get rich. Lol, he was really annoying, and I was trying to let him know that even by just investing in cryptocurrency as HODL, you will be taking risk, and he still seem like he’s not understanding.
1599  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 20-Year-Old Robinhood Customer Dies By Suicide After Seeing A $730,000 Negative on: June 19, 2020, 08:03:10 PM
I think it’s high time we start letting people know that trading is not a means to gather gold and silver, it’s a very risky thing to engage yourself in, because you can lose everything in it. This is a really bad news and something anyone would never wish to come to them, but that’s not enough reason for him to take his life.

I feel really sorry for him and I wish he didn’t take his life because of this and I wish he didn’t even involve himself in this kind of thing. Young adults shouldn’t involve themselves in this without guidance. They should always have someone that guiding them to avoid making mistake. There is nothing in life that is enough to make anyone take their life.
1600  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you using a trading bot? on: June 19, 2020, 07:01:39 PM
Trading bots are not there so you could profit endlessly and never look back. Think about it logically, if there was a bot out there that would help you profit constantly, don't you think that the whole world would use it? I mean the word would get out, if just 10 people made profits constantly using a bot, they would advice it to other people as well, others would start using it and it would get bigger and bigger.

I suspect 1/10 of all trading in big exchanges are bots, but not all of them make a profit. Sure you can make profit sometimes, but sometimes you lose as well. So do not look at bots like it is a marvelous invention that would print money for you. I would say look at it more like a help, such as you can make a coffee the old way or you can use an espresso machine, it's like that.
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