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1581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to See the Future of Altcoin? on: December 03, 2017, 10:43:56 AM
Let me ask you about what should I learn to know the future of altcoin. I heard some term like algorithm, dev and other. What factor which are make altcoin used by more people, i.e for trading, payment processor or others? For example, in my community most of people use dogecoin due to low fee. Any other factor than fee?
And....if new coin announced, how to see that coin maybe promising or not?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
With bitcoin's price rising more and more, the news about have spreaden all around the world and probably all people know by now or at least heard of bitcoin, and this has brought many new poeple into it and made them be intressted in it in pursuit of wealth and profit, because after seeing its crazy prices everyone will want a peace of the cake, needless to say that when people join the bitcoin community they will be introduced and they will stumble upon the altcoins in their way, because no matter how hard they will try to earn bitcoin they will find themselves using altcoins to get it, and this means that with bitcoin gaiçning more and more popularity poeple will start using the cryptocurrencies more and this market will lead us to the new human area wich is the digital form of money, and many investment will take palce, and already this market has become popular and a proof is just the bumber of ico starting and the huge amount of money that is being pumped into it.
1582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 2019 - the end of 90% altcoin? on: December 02, 2017, 10:08:50 PM
Since we have an exploding amount of ICO started from mid this year and most of these projects says they will have at least a prototype around end 2018 to 2019. Many of hear ICO projects will delay the release date, but nevertheless many of them should have something by the mid to end 2019.

What will happen to these ICOs that cannot deliver the promise? They will become zombie coin, as we have see the confido cases as I suspect there will be much more project fail down the track. And only a few hat will be among the top 25 coins with working project.

Do you guys think we the investors will be less interested in ICO in the following years as we gradually learn that we might not get our money back if we are stuck with these coins? And the number of the good coins will increases and people have more choices to diversify rather than just put the money in BTC and ETH?
Unlike what most people think ICO tokens are not altcoins, they are simply currencies made based on the ethereum network that developers and project owners use to promote thier projects and to get a kickstarter on the projects, by selling these they get enough money just selling their ideas while others use them as if they were ethereum, this idea has ahd a masive success over the past few months and definetly had an impact not only on the ethereum but also on the other cryptocurrencies.
1583  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading vs holding on: December 02, 2017, 07:25:37 PM
Under what circumstances is trading preferred over holding?
Btc reaching 10k$ way before new year is a big shock,your opinions would be very helpful.
Well if we are talking about bitcoin than holding it is the best option and the wisest, because bitcoin unlike the other cryptocurrencies does not have a crazy market, its price does not go down, so selling your coin would be the end there will be no coming back after it, the price of the bitcoin will always keep going up no matter what is the price that you sell it for, and you might never have another chance to rebuy it again because the price never goes down, so people should understand that bitcoin trading or selling is a hard decision because selling it will make you regret it each time you see the price rising up.
1584  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Whats your trading story? on: December 02, 2017, 03:48:02 PM
For now ive stopped trading altcoins, but before when Im new I lose a lot because lack of knowledge. Trading is a difficult to do if we are not learning in every detail. Earn knowledge and we can survive in trading.
I think many of us didn't have a successfull first experience when it comes to trading, trading cryptocurrency is probably the most time consuming and stressfull way of earning profit, i started trading some altcoins a year agao and i remember having to stare at the screan 15h a day watching the prices and looking for news about a potential change in the price, i remember waking up in the middle of the night because i had notification that the price is going up, probably trading altcoins is hard and not for everyone because of how thier prices are constantly changing, that is why i just stick to bitcoin trading because unlike them you don't have to worry too mauch about the price droping.
1585  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: McDonalds to accept Bitcoin by 2018 on: December 02, 2017, 08:42:17 AM

It is kinda hard to digest this news. Because of all things going around right now, such as :
1. The fees of transaction. It is quite high right now if compared to your meal price at mc donald.
2. The transaction time. To make it fast, you need to pay more fees then.
In my opinion, bitcoin transaction is better for a big transaction for now. But i do hope for someday that bitcoin can be used in everyday transaction like this.

There is no doubt that with the constant growth of bitcoin the netowrk has to be adjusted, with every price rise a lot of people are flooding into the bitcoin netowrk, and this requires the developers to work in order to make the netowrk more stable and faster, because obviously in the future more will come, and i am pretty sure that MacDonald as being a commapny that alaways supported new ways to pay is not the only one who is going to start aceepting bitcoin, many have seen what bitcoin is capable to reach and they are all wanting to get profit from its massive success, so we will defiently hear mora nd more news about big commpanies investing in bitcoin.
1586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin has more than 21m supply on: December 02, 2017, 08:33:06 AM
A fork does not mean that the szupply of bitcoin is being increased or decreased it has nothing to do with it, a fork is just creating a new currency that shares the same network as bitcoin, there were tow forks one for creating bitcoin cash and the other for creating bitcoin gold, this is just a way to make sure that after the bitcoin falles these coins will take over and linking them to bitcoin makes people think that it is a part of bitcoin, when it is not, it is just a new altcoin that happens to have the name bitcoin in it, think of it as bitcoin the king and these coins are thier rightfull successeures by blood.
1587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is draining the altcoins on: December 01, 2017, 01:24:02 PM
Price of altcoins is dropping, nearly 85% of altcoins suffer from the recent bitcoin boom because most people exchange their coins for bitcoins.
What is your thought on this matter?  
Well there is no suprise about this, the cryptocurrency market is all centered around the big one, every one is working to get bitcoin because in people's eyes bitcoin is the only successfull coin, poeple only started to use altcoins just when mining bitcoin started becoming more and more difficult, so mining other altcoin with a less difficulty than bitcoin with a much lower coast machines is much profitable than dierectly mining bitcoin, and of course they do all this just to be able to exchange it to bitcoin so they can get even more profit, because everyone knows that altcoins are very unpredictibale and could crash at any time because they have a much smaller user base than bitcoin.
1588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ethereum price in future on: December 01, 2017, 12:36:50 PM
Now ETH price around 500$.Will ETH price reach 1000$ in 2018 Jan Huh
There is a possibility that we may see ethereum's price go up in the future, it may not reach crazy numbers like bitcoin but defiently it is on the right track, for me ethereum has been the best alternative cryptocurrency after bitcoin, not only does ethereum has started rising up so it makes for a good investment in the future, but it has some really new ideas to bring to the table, not like the other altcoins that are just trying to be a copy of bitcoin, ethereum allows project developers and people with ideas to create thier own tokens and to sell them to get kickstarters on thier project, and this idea has been so popular that this forum has been blowing up with ICO starting up and airdrops, and this lead to the number using etherum rising up wich is starting to affezct the price, so ethereum has a bright future ahead of it.
1589  Economy / Economics / Re: Alt coin price manipulation is much easier than with BTC on: November 30, 2017, 09:38:13 PM
Something that became more evident this last week is that Alt coin price pumping/manipulation is MUCH easier than Bitcoin BTC. It only took Roger Ver and his shills a few days to super pump Bitcoin Cash with more than 100%. To have the same effect with BTC, you will have to get most of the BTC whales to act together and this is no easy task. 

There are also more BTC exchanges to manipulate than Bitcoin Cash or Alt coin exchanges, so these Alt coin whales can concentrate their efforts for better results on only 1 or 2 exchanges where these coins are traded.

This is going to happen a lot more now, since this was such a huge success for these Pumpers, so be wary.  Roll Eyes
Well the diffrence between bitcoin and the other cryptocurrencies is wide, bitcoin has a much larger user base which makes controlling its price or manupilating it real hard, the other altcoins tend to have a smaller user base so if somone who iwns a large amount of them dump it it would affect the price, there goes to show how bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency and no other coin will be able to have this much of a success, because it is decentrelized and no one could manipulate its price.
1590  Economy / Economics / Re: What to do with our new found wealth??? on: November 30, 2017, 06:55:57 PM
So many people jave been waiting for the bitcoin to reach thus mile stone for a really long time and in theorey all those people who have been saving thier coins and slaving to be able to get them for quite some time are going to cash out thier fruit of labor and paitence, but my geuss is after seeing how much bitcoin have progressed this year and they were able to get more than 1000% profit from it they will not even think about using it , instead they will probably just save it, and to be honest i don't blame them, so what are we going to do with our new wealth ?, the awnser would be nothing.
1591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE OF BITCOIN THROUGHOUT 2017 on: November 29, 2017, 06:25:33 PM
The rise of Bitcoin throughout 2017 has been spectacular. Since January, the digital currency has delighted investors with its incredible 11x gains. In fact, without including other cryptocurrencies, Bitcoin is without doubt the hottest investment of the last twelve months. If the current trend is anything to go by, it’ll likely go down as the biggest money spinner of the entire decade too.
It is indeed amazing how bitcoin have developed over the course of th year, i mean back in 2016 this 10k seemed like way too far, and people had even more doubts when the price have fallend at the begining of the year from 1100$ to 700$, a lot of people back then decided to sell because they were afraid, but soon after the bitcoin strated climbing back again and rised more than ever, and this made bitcoin surpass gold, and now it has become the most profitable investment in the world, all i can say is congrats to all who were patient and belived in bitcoin up until now and never gave up on it, and i am pretty sure that in the future bitcoin will progress even more and i am not just talking about price but also in terms of how many people will start to use it after this massive increase.
1592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 88% of Japanese have heard of bitcoin -- how about your country? -- on: November 27, 2017, 06:22:31 PM
Thats great that 88% of japanese people know about about bitcoin cause my country is a devolping country so out here  the percentage of people knowing about bitcoin is very less and i am shocked that even most of the literate people dont know what bitcoin is ,so yeah  i think bitcoin should advertist more about it and stuff .so yeah out here it not that great going as it can go
Well I think that this percentage is overestimated, and if it is real it is due to the fact that their country actually supports bitcoin so they may have heard about it in multiple ocaisons where it has been mentioned in the media, the number of people who have heard of bitcoin might be high but the actual number of people who use it is probably much more less than that, and that is due to people not being able to find ways to earn it, in general I think that the number of people that know about bitcoin in a country is tied to the government whether it support it or not and tied to whether the media was able to cover it or not, and also tied to how much the society uses internet because if they use internet they may already have heard of it.
1593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and deep web on: November 27, 2017, 06:04:11 PM
With enough effort, bitcoin can be traced. However, you can make it very very difficult.
I am pretty sure that by now it is nearly impossible to track any transaction, I mean if you think that there is only about 13 million btc circling the network half of them are just sitting in wallets the other half is transected between all the bitcoin users in the world, 1 btc will get divided to multiple unites which are then sent and received by many people, that is why sending bitcoin to the wrong address can't be cancelled otherwise wallets would have that option, what I am trying to say is no matter who uses bitcoin or no matter for what he uses it for it 100 percent untraceable.
1594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Large Investment into Ethereum? on: November 27, 2017, 02:44:40 PM
I'm very new to AltCoins and all of it in general, this is my first post too!

I have started to invest into some AltCoins, but! I am looking to invest a large amount into a coin and Ethereum is looking promising, do you guys think that it is a good investment?
 
And is the price too high atm? ($483.36) or shall I wait for it to drop? do you guys think it will drop?

 Huh Huh Huh Tongue

I like Ethereum, but I would not put everything into one coin. I'd be happy with something like 40% Bitcoin, 30% Ethereum, 30% assorted other alts. Always keep some btc!
I agree, putting all your investment into one coin is not the wisest idea, even if ethereum shows some promising growth and even if poeple are saying that it is a good time to invest in it, still you should not invest all of your moeny into it hell even you should not even invest all your money into bitcoin, you have to be wise when it comes to cryptocurrencies, you have to know where to put your moeny, dividing your cap on 3 or 4 coins can get you some profit , the way this works is, one coins goes and another goes down you would still be making profit from both sides. rather than just being tied to the fiath of one coin and not earniing anything when it is down.
1595  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bit coin hit 25000 USD on: November 27, 2017, 11:32:36 AM
As per these trend , surely next year end this bitcoin will go 25000 USD.

what about your opinions?  and need to know due to forks this risen trend happens?



nothing impossible for bitcoin reach the price 25000usd in the year 2018 look at now bitcoin price very huggable and continue to increase I think next year even if some fork for the bitcoin I believe all of this bitcoin stay on the top.
Indeed, this year has been a wild ride for bitcoin since it went up from 1000$ to nearly 10k with a growth that exedes any other investment in the world with a profit that surpasses 1000%, and we are pretty sure that bitcoin will continue to grow both in terms of price and the number of people who are using it and also in terms of investments, although we can never predict what the price of the bitcoin may reach, as it does not stop to suprise us and keeps on going to numbers we never dreamed of, there is one thing for sure and that is as long as the community keeps on working together and we keep on fighting for this noble cause the bitcoin will always keep on growing.
1596  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to overcome the fear of holding? on: November 26, 2017, 10:01:28 PM
I've always been one who sells to earlier, either to minimize my losses or to realize my earnings ASAP and leave. I've seen in most of my investments, if not all that if I would've just left the coins there they would've been worth 10-50x what I put in before. This is upsetting as a person and trader, as I see how much money I'm missing out on.

How do you traders do it, hold and hold and hold. Waiting around for more and more money?
Well when it comes to bitcoin trading paiteince is the key, because selling early will cause us to lose a lot of profit, so saving it without a fear of losing is what keeps me going, you see bitcoin at the moment is the best and the fastest way to make profit, so its price is constantly going up, and even if a dump in the price and i have missed my chance to semm i know for sure that sooner or later the price is going to go up again, so the point is there is no lose in saving up bitcoin and eventually i will get another chance to sell, as for the other cryptrocurrencies it is hard to predict their prices, and they have a very unstable market so they go up and down quickly, so selling them when you get the chance is better than just saving it.
1597  Economy / Speculation / Re: Report: Bitcoin to $25,000 by 2022 on: November 26, 2017, 09:04:07 PM
We can not say anything in the future, but bitcoin can reach $ 25,000 by 2022 but that is a difficult challenge.  Grin Grin Grin


I agree with you . It could be a great challenge for bitcoin. But why not? We all know that everything cannot be done without a process. Maybe it is a long wait also and a very big challenge, but if that would happen, then we will have a lot of earnings or we can gain a lot from that. All we have to do is not to quit and continue what we have started so we will not be behind with others.

A challenge, yes. But I do not think achieving $25,000 by 2022 is impossible. At the beginning of this year, people would have thought you were crazy if you said Bitcoin could cross $2000 in 2017. Now, people think it will cross $10,000. So nothing is impossible in the Bitcoin world.
This is why trying to predict the market is such a huge waste of time, bitcoin cannot be predicted it could easily go to 20000 in the next year or go to 5000, we must concentrate in holding our bitcoin under all circumstances to not sell it and to not lose it to hackers.
I agree, predicting the price of not just bitcoin but any other cryptocurrency is just a stupid idea, because there are many things that we can not know and the things that may affect the price in teh future, because bitcoin is not controlled by the normal market events they are random and quick, people say that bitcoin will reach 25k by the end of the 2022 i say we might even hit that number erlier than that, people didn't predict that the price of the bitcoin will go from 700$ to 9k in the bigening of the year, and this nearly 1000% increase in just a year was never a thing that anyone thought would be possible, so in the future the price may keep on this crazy rise and it might get shut down, but we can't know, only time will.
1598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: the price of ethereum increased on: November 26, 2017, 06:30:11 PM
these days, the price of ethereum continues to rise,.

what causes the increase in the price of the ethereum?

It is no suprise that the price of the ethereum is starting to rise, and this will be due to the fact that there are a lot of ICO tokens that are ethereum based that starting up, and i think that ethereum will continue to gain more and more popularity and we will see it continuing to rise in terms of value, because not only ethereum is a good cryptocurrency in terms of investment, but it allows developers, poeple with great ideas to get a kick strater on their projects by allowing them to create their own tokens and selling them to people intresstd in these ideas, and that is what made its price rise in the first palce, just take a look at the service section and you will notice that there are a lot of ICO based campaigns that are promoting their ideas and tokens, and i am pretty sure that we will see more of them in the future.
1599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: the price of ethereum increased on: November 26, 2017, 04:27:27 PM
Let's imagine Bitcoin is a roller coaster and the person riding it are the altcoins like ethereum. If Bitcoin goes up then so the altcoins and when it goes down, the altcoin follows. Bitcoin's price right now is actually growing getting an all time high of 9000$ so it's a no surprice that other altcoins would go green too.
Since bitcoin has started to rise in terms of price it made its mark in the news and it really got many people intressted in it, and this lead to the popularty of the bitcoin going up, more pople on bitcoin lead them to the cryptocurrency world where they started using altcoins to get to bitcoin, so saying that bitcoin growing and going up to 9000$ will eventuly lead to the other altcoins going up as well is true, however i recommend to be smart when it comes to altcoins, because there price may be linked to the bitcoin but they are unpredictibale and they may go down at any momnet, and that is due to the fact that peoople use them just to exhcange them to bitcoin.
1600  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Goverments to go AGAINST Bitcoin on: November 26, 2017, 12:13:17 PM
Is there any chance goverments to go against bitcoin if they see its something against them??
At first when bitcoin was released, when it was only used by a couple of people bitcoin did not prove to be a problem for goverments so thye ddin't pay attention to it, a few years later it started gaining more popularity and had its price going up, they just ignored it because econnemist thought that it is just a buble and soon it will drop down, but now with so many people using it and earning thaousands of dollars from its rise, they are faced with tow options either they accept it as a payment method or ban it and piss of a lot of people, either way they are unable to controll it or prevent the users from trading with it because bitcoin is uncontrolled by any one and it provieds complete discreat for the ones who use it, so the point is it does not matter wether goverments ban it or not people are still going to use it, accepting it will make it more popular, and banning it will not affect its users very much.
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