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1621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Proposal for the Mitigation of Bitcoin's Linguistic Transaction Costs on: April 28, 2014, 06:41:32 AM
The problem is that 100 million satoshi to a bitcoin is not logical. Should have been 1 million or 1 billion. This makes no sense at all. So before you do anything you should either cut two zeroes or add one.
I never understood, why they made that decision. Maybe some veteran Bitconar could explain?

Because it accounts for future growth of the world economy including inflation in the future since no future supply can be created it needed to go into Quadrillions Smiley
You misunderstood my question.
I wonderer why they made the decisision to use this 100.000.000 step. Normally you would use steps of 1.000 (like in Mega or Giga), but they decided to make steps in 100 (?). We don't even use this System. We use µBTC which is 100 Satoschi but 1.000th of 1 mBTC which is 1.000 of 1 BTC.
This 100 step to come from Satoschi to µBTC doesn't fit.
1622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Get Avaaz to accept bitcoin on: April 28, 2014, 06:23:18 AM
Thanks a lot. I nearly forgot about that ...
1623  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Proposal for the Mitigation of Bitcoin's Linguistic Transaction Costs on: April 24, 2014, 06:26:10 AM
The problem is that 100 million satoshi to a bitcoin is not logical. Should have been 1 million or 1 billion. This makes no sense at all. So before you do anything you should either cut two zeroes or add one.
I never understood, why they made that decision. Maybe some veteran Bitconar could explain?
1624  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 1 BTC bounty for cracking bitcoin wallet on: April 23, 2014, 10:21:18 AM
I guess the download-File is a Virus. I am not in a safe environment here to test it, but I would recommend for everybody, do don't download it.
1625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Freudian slip? on: April 23, 2014, 09:57:28 AM
I guess my first question should be what video since I see none posted here
Also Dorian said thanks cool
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=580630.0
1626  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Proposal for the Mitigation of Bitcoin's Linguistic Transaction Costs on: April 23, 2014, 06:50:15 AM
You are missing the point.

The important factor is the semantic re-basement, the terms used for the powers of ten can vary over time and geography. 

The human instinct to hoard collectibles has driven the adoption of Bitcoin. For this to continue to be a strong driving factor, the amounts that typical new users are able to acquire should be referred to as full "bitcoins". At this point anything from 1 to 100,000 satoshis would work, but the smaller units scale farther into the future, if we assume further S-curve adoption.

Lakh is just a good term to refer to units of 100,000 of anything, because it is a simple single syllable term, and is already familiar to many people.
I think Mega is more familiar to people. Lakh is just familiar to Asian people and not an international term, that is used by everybody, who has a computer.
So, stop forcing terms into the bitcoin world, just because it is used in your country. I don't care, what population your country has, so you can say "it is already familiar to many people"
It is not gonna happen.
1627  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-04-20] Oman Tribune: MtGox CEO not to appear in court on: April 20, 2014, 09:50:13 AM
We should punish Mt.Gox CEO Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

It is the duty of the Japanese authorities to extradite him to the US to face justice. But it seems that right now they are unwilling to do so, whatever may be their reasons. So we are helpless.

No it's not. It is their duty to prosecute accordingly when there has been a crime committed from within their jurisdiction. Are they going to extradite him to every country that had customers that lost money? What makes the US so special that you believe he belongs there? We know for a fact that the US authorities closed his US accounts and thereafter made it almost impossible for him to operate within the US. Why on earth would it be their responsibility to prosecute him now?
When he has a company registered in a country(USA), than yes it is the duty of another country(Japan) to extradite him to this country(USA).
You are right, that it doesn't depend on where the customers are from.
1628  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: I didn't pay capital gains tax on bitcoin sales to IRS today on: April 19, 2014, 07:38:49 PM
@Sage and cryptoanarchist

You just repeat the same BS over and over again, without showing any evidence, besides a 30 year old report.
It doesn't become true, just because you repeat it over and over again.
It doesn't become true, just because you call other people shills.

People like you are the worst. Practical stealing from others but still claim to be on a moral high ground.
I really hope you guys get caught, it would be better for the world.
I am out.

turvarya, you really need "evidence" that city taxes pay for your garbage bill.  That gas taxes pay for your roads.  That property taxes pay for schools (all of which the private sector could do for better & far cheaper... but that's another discussion).

...your arguments justifying the income tax could not be more pathetic & baseless.

It's YOU repeating the same tired & baseless argument to justify the illegal, immoral income tax.  

Show me one single benefit you or any other American receives as a consequence of the income tax!

It's the Federal Reserve scam behind the income tax that is raping & stealing the wealth from the true value producers of the world.  Not I.

...And they get away with it because of apathetic brainwashed lemmings who spout this baseless propaganda.

I already told you, that I am not a US-citizen. You are really a special kind of ignorant.
1629  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: I didn't pay capital gains tax on bitcoin sales to IRS today on: April 19, 2014, 09:13:46 AM
@Sage and cryptoanarchist

You just repeat the same BS over and over again, without showing any evidence, besides a 30 year old report.
It doesn't become true, just because you repeat it over and over again.
It doesn't become true, just because you call other people shills.

People like you are the worst. Practical stealing from others but still claim to be on a moral high ground.
I really hope you guys get caught, it would be better for the world.
I am out.
1630  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Yubikey kaufen on: April 18, 2014, 12:12:46 PM
Ich überlege mir, wie ich meine Sicherheit im Netz erhöhen kann.
Kraken.com und blockchain.info (und früher auch mtgox) verwenden yubikeys und die scheinen sehr praktikabel zu sein.

Muss ich mir Yubikeys aus den USA bestellen oder gibt es eine bessere Möglichkeit(für einen Österreicher)?
1631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A Proposal for the Mitigation of Bitcoin's Linguistic Transaction Costs on: April 18, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
I neither want an American nomenclature nor an Asien.
So, neither Dollar nor Lakh is acceptable for me and most other people in Europe.
Bitcoin is a global currency. Keep that in mind and don't refer to what you are used to, when dealing with fiat in your country.

People learned what Byte, MB, etc. is. People will learn the nomenclature of Bitcoins.

    100,000,000  One Bitcoin
    _10,000,000  Ten MEGAtoshi
    __1,000,000  MEGAtoshi
    ____100,000  Hundred KILOtoshis
    _____10,000  Ten KILOtoshis
    _______1000 KILOtoshi
    ________100 Hundred Satoshis
    _________10 Ten Satoshis
    __________1 One Satoshi
I like that.
1632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Penis Tattoo? on: April 18, 2014, 08:06:17 AM
I have a tattoo of my private key on my privates.
That's pretty clever, since nobody will ever see it  Cheesy
1633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: My bitcoin core 9.1 beta failed to read block. PLEASE HELP!!!!! on: April 17, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
Thank you for your help. After hours of researching online, i figure out the way to solve it. Now, my bitcoin core is synning. Hopefully, i will have my bitoin back but... you never know untill it pop up Undecided
Could you share, what you did in the end for other people to learn?
1634  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: I didn't pay capital gains tax on bitcoin sales to IRS today on: April 17, 2014, 04:59:39 PM
If they don't get enough money with income taxes, they just take it from the gas or property taxes.

Nope, They take it from new debt.
The combined amount of taxes is far less than the U.S. expenses.
I know, that my government takes it from the schools(and we also have increasing debts). I can't believe, that US-government doesn't do the same thing.
1635  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bribing government for bitcoins... on: April 17, 2014, 04:31:13 PM
So, you don't use streets?

The Mafia is keeping you and your family safe. Don't you want your family to be safe? Good. Pay up.
Not answering my question, just shows how wrong you are.
If you don't want to pay for streets, than just move to a country without streets.

And don't give me that "I never signed up for that"-bullshit. You don't have a choice, where you are born, but you have a choice about where to live as an adult. You don't like, that you were born in a city? Move to a cave as an adult.
1636  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: I didn't pay capital gains tax on bitcoin sales to IRS today on: April 17, 2014, 04:25:40 PM
Quote
It should be clear for everybody with some brain, that just not paying taxes wouldn't change anything, shouldn't it?

Yes, because tax revolts are so un-American and never achieve anything ....

Quote
The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act because they believed that it violated their rights as Englishmen to "No taxation without representation," that is, be taxed only by their own elected representatives and not by a British parliament in which they were not represented. Protesters had successfully prevented the unloading of taxed tea in three other colonies, but in Boston, embattled Royal Governor Thomas Hutchinson refused to allow the tea to be returned to Britain.

The Boston Tea Party was a key event in the growth of the American Revolution. Parliament responded in 1774 with the Coercive Acts, or Intolerable Acts, which, among other provisions, ended local self-government in Massachusetts and closed Boston's commerce. Colonists up and down the Thirteen Colonies in turn responded to the Coercive Acts with additional acts of protest, and by convening the First Continental Congress, which petitioned the British monarch for repeal of the acts and coordinated colonial resistance to them. The crisis escalated, and the American Revolutionary War began near Boston in 1775.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

It is ALWAYS about the money you fools, taxes are at the root of the evil of a coercive state. Only criminals steal under the colour of threat of violence.
The difference is, that you guys don't officially declare, that you stop paying taxes. You are not a resistance movement, you are just some cowards hiding in the shadow and hope to don't get caught.
Comparing yourself to real revolutionaries just shows, that you have no idea, what you are talking about.

You don't get it Turvarya.... Crypto currencies have changed the game.

There is no need to "resist" anything.   Simply ignore them & conduct business outside of that corrupt system... in spite of their threats & intimidation tactics.  

Good luck 3 letter agencies finding & seizing crypto assets!  They are powerless against this new paradigm.  Fear is the only card they have left to keep the spineless lemmings compliant.  Soon enough the lemmings too will realize the game has changed.

Non-violent civil disobedience has always been the most effective agent of change against corrupt & evil systems... and always takes courage.  Calling us cowards proves that YOU have no idea what you're talking about.
So, what exactly is the difference between you guys and a company like Google, that also have it's ways to avoid taxes? You "anarchists" do the same as this "bad capitalists".
Your "civil disobedience" just benefits yourself, so don't act like some kind of freedom fighter. You are not going to change this "corrupt & evil systems". You are just making it worse for people who can't use the same tricks as you.
Spread as much BS as you want, but as long as you can't show, how you make the world a better place for other people than you, you are just an ego manic coward.


Spoken like a true government shill.  

If you believe in & support what that system is doing, go ahead...send them your wealth.  Hell, send them double if you feel it benefits the world so much.

But.. If you send in that check out of fear of what might happen if you didn't, then who's the coward!

Show me one benefit the Federal Reserve scam has done for the world.

Nothing but endless wars, torture, mayhem... and the economic raping of the true value producers of the world have resulted from that system.

How do I & others who refuse to support that system benefit the world?  If the answer to that isn't painfully obvious then you're brainwashed beyond hope.  

And for the record, since the corporate tax only goes to fund the military industrial establishment, I fully support google, apple, & any other company doing absolutely everything in their power to avoid enabling that monster too.

Any government "benefit" any American receives does not come from the illegal & immoral income tax & the Federal Reserve scam that is behind it.  Your government's own Grace commission proved that.


You government shills gotta get more creative.  You're using the oldest tactics in the book.  Nobody but the mindless lemmings buys those tired tactics anymore.

Do you really think, that your government is spending less on wars, when you don't pay taxes? They don't. They are spending less on schools, infrastructure, etc.
Btw. I am not an US-citizen and I am not with any government.



Schools are paid for by property taxes.

Roads are paid for by gas taxes.

Not one red cent of the income tax goes to benefit any Americain in any way.  100% goes back into the hands of the Banksters, where it issued to further foment wars that they profit from.

And the only way they can get away with it is because they have so many ignorant lemmings like you to promote the myths you're espousing.
Every penny from the property taxes goes to Schools? Every penny from the gas taxes goes to Roads? There is no other money source for Schools and no other source for Roads?
That is one of the most stupid things, I have ever heard. In Austria we have the saying: Geld hat kein Mascherl. Money doesn't have a bow tie. That means you can't trace every penny. If they don't get enough money with income taxes, they just take it from the gas or property taxes.
1637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bribing government for bitcoins... on: April 17, 2014, 04:15:51 PM
Sure, you can. Move the fuck out of your country and revoke your citizenship.
As long as you stay in a country, you are using their common goods and services. Don't tell me you never used a street.

So I should be banished from my home because I object to a political entity using violence to force goods and services on me and demanding payment for them?

If a business in Sicily is targeted by a mafia protection racket, should they just "move the fuck out of their country" if they don't like it?

I guess some people are just born to be ruled.

So, you don't use streets?
1638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bribing government for bitcoins... on: April 17, 2014, 04:11:06 PM
So, if you are taking a good or service, don't pay for it and the salesman treatens to sue you, that is also extortion?

Of course not. I have the option to not buy the good or service, and I have the option to go to another merchant.

Governments provide you with common goods, you have to pay for it via taxes.

Can I decide that I don't want the government's goods and services?

Sure, you can argue that, they charge too much, but you can say the same about Apple.

Can I decide that I don't want Apple's goods and services?

You see the difference?

Sure, you can. Move the fuck out of your country and revoke your citizenship.
As long as you stay in a country, you are using their common goods and services. Don't tell me you never used a street.
1639  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: I didn't pay capital gains tax on bitcoin sales to IRS today on: April 17, 2014, 04:08:34 PM
Quote
It should be clear for everybody with some brain, that just not paying taxes wouldn't change anything, shouldn't it?

Yes, because tax revolts are so un-American and never achieve anything ....

Quote
The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act because they believed that it violated their rights as Englishmen to "No taxation without representation," that is, be taxed only by their own elected representatives and not by a British parliament in which they were not represented. Protesters had successfully prevented the unloading of taxed tea in three other colonies, but in Boston, embattled Royal Governor Thomas Hutchinson refused to allow the tea to be returned to Britain.

The Boston Tea Party was a key event in the growth of the American Revolution. Parliament responded in 1774 with the Coercive Acts, or Intolerable Acts, which, among other provisions, ended local self-government in Massachusetts and closed Boston's commerce. Colonists up and down the Thirteen Colonies in turn responded to the Coercive Acts with additional acts of protest, and by convening the First Continental Congress, which petitioned the British monarch for repeal of the acts and coordinated colonial resistance to them. The crisis escalated, and the American Revolutionary War began near Boston in 1775.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party

It is ALWAYS about the money you fools, taxes are at the root of the evil of a coercive state. Only criminals steal under the colour of threat of violence.
The difference is, that you guys don't officially declare, that you stop paying taxes. You are not a resistance movement, you are just some cowards hiding in the shadow and hope to don't get caught.
Comparing yourself to real revolutionaries just shows, that you have no idea, what you are talking about.

You don't get it Turvarya.... Crypto currencies have changed the game.

There is no need to "resist" anything.   Simply ignore them & conduct business outside of that corrupt system... in spite of their threats & intimidation tactics.  

Good luck 3 letter agencies finding & seizing crypto assets!  They are powerless against this new paradigm.  Fear is the only card they have left to keep the spineless lemmings compliant.  Soon enough the lemmings too will realize the game has changed.

Non-violent civil disobedience has always been the most effective agent of change against corrupt & evil systems... and always takes courage.  Calling us cowards proves that YOU have no idea what you're talking about.
So, what exactly is the difference between you guys and a company like Google, that also have it's ways to avoid taxes? You "anarchists" do the same as this "bad capitalists".
Your "civil disobedience" just benefits yourself, so don't act like some kind of freedom fighter. You are not going to change this "corrupt & evil systems". You are just making it worse for people who can't use the same tricks as you.
Spread as much BS as you want, but as long as you can't show, how you make the world a better place for other people than you, you are just an ego manic coward.


Spoken like a true government shill.  

If you believe in & support what that system is doing, go ahead...send them your wealth.  Hell, send them double if you feel it benefits the world so much.

But.. If you send in that check out of fear of what might happen if you didn't, then who's the coward!

Show me one benefit the Federal Reserve scam has done for the world.

Nothing but endless wars, torture, mayhem... and the economic raping of the true value producers of the world have resulted from that system.

How do I & others who refuse to support that system benefit the world?  If the answer to that isn't painfully obvious then you're brainwashed beyond hope.  

And for the record, since the corporate tax only goes to fund the military industrial establishment, I fully support google, apple, & any other company doing absolutely everything in their power to avoid enabling that monster too.

Any government "benefit" any American receives does not come from the illegal & immoral income tax & the Federal Reserve scam that is behind it.  Your government's own Grace commission proved that.


You government shills gotta get more creative.  You're using the oldest tactics in the book.  Nobody but the mindless lemmings buys those tired tactics anymore.

Do you really think, that your government is spending less on wars, when you don't pay taxes? They don't. They are spending less on schools, infrastructure, etc.
Btw. I am not an US-citizen and I am not with any government.

1640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bribing government for bitcoins... on: April 17, 2014, 03:53:21 PM
What is the difference between extortion and blackmailing?

From Wiki:

Blackmail may also be considered a form of extortion.[1] Although the two are generally synonymous, extortion is the taking of personal property by threat of future harm.[9] Blackmail is the use of threats to prevent another from engaging in a lawful occupation and writing libelous letters or letters that provoke a breach of the peace, as well as use of intimidation for purposes of collecting an unpaid debt.[4]

Yea, actually I'm not sure that helps...

And no, it is not like taxes.

Government demands money on threat of imprisonment. Individual demands money on threat of telling the truth.

Actually you're right, they aren't the same.
So, if you are taking a good or service, don't pay for it and the salesman treatens to sue you, that is also extortion? Governments provide you with common goods, you have to pay for it via taxes. Sure, you can argue that, they charge too much, but you can say the same about Apple.
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