Then I only have one thing to say now. The fact that you've been spamming "THIS WEBSITE IS A PONZI DO NOT INVEST" for days made me search for the meaning of Ponzi (I've never checked any other threads, other than the ones that were posted here). If I ever invested in this website and lost it all, wouldn't it be my fault?
And again since you kept telling us the same thing over and over again it would mean we are at fault for investing, so why am I being blamed here for "participating in this Ponzi Website with evidence and somehow encouraging players to invest" since players that invested already lost their money AND since the withdrawal isn't working it means I can't take anyone else"s" money.
The only thing I hate is how you gave me a negative trust over something I believe isn't fair.
If you post in a ponzi thread of your participation in the 'service' it can be inferred by later users that the service might be worth joining. This is what the scammers need you to do. Just because they aren't paying out now doesn't mean it won't make a few payouts if enough new victims are found that send some money in. Which is why you should not continue posting of your participation unless, of course, you *are* actually hoping that will happen. Remember, delete your participation posts and stop contributing to these threads and your negative rating will be removed. |
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He knows it's a fucking ponzi, he just wants to justify his practice of trying to incite others to send money in so he can get a share of the funds stolen from them.
That's why he's proven to be an untrustworthy scumbag and that is why other forum members should be made aware of that fact.
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Guys, the whole fuckin world is a ponzi, why the fuck do you even care so much about ponzi's? There is no perfect world, you can call it theft if you run or play in a ponzi, but please explain me the difference with a casino? (And don't come bitchin about it is regulated, because not being regulated by anything or anyone else, is the whole point of bitcoin.)
Hey, dimwit, try reading this: http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1382239.msg14068566#msg14068566It ain't about you and it ain't about your money. It is about your fucking trustworthiness, or lack of. If you can't tell the difference between playing the odds at gambling and inciting other people to send money to a pyramid scheme in order for you to get a share of what is stolen from them, then you are going to spend most of your life wondering why you fail at everything. |
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Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!
Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
*HNNNnnnnnnHHGG!* *HnNNNnnnnnGG!* *Huhrrrrrrrnngggg!* . . . *plop* Go learn what logical fallacies are, kid. |
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For some one that thinks I keep stating the same thing over and over,you sure like quoting me to twist my words. Quoting you to twist your words? I'm quoting you to show the things you have said so I can explain why it is utter bollocks. One mans cess-pit another mans treasure,maybe learn to except that instead of forcing people to your ideology. LOL. That's just too much dumb-fuckery to comment on. If you have a problem with the sale of accounts talk to the owner of the forum,forcing people to see it as a issue by negatively leaving trust comments just shows you are petty. Subjective opinion. When you leave comments of negative reflection with out proof it is slander. Jesus Fucking Henry Christ will you lot please get a fucking education! The word you want is LIBEL ! Doing it just once makes what you say worthless and people will eventually just ignore the comments left. So great job in showing the trust system can be broken. Subjective opinion. |
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Wow, TEC, you really are as fucking dumb as the rest of them. You argue against something being what it is the definition of, then cite the usual slippery-slope bullshit fallacy and then when somebody points out the flaw in your bullshit straw-man you go and redefine the definition of the term. As for I explained in detail how the your actions affect this forum in your futile attempts at playing mall cop but I am sure you are unwilling or unable to read it. Go look up appeal-to-futility fallacy. |
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I don't quite understand why you always think of someone negatively in that way.  Do you have trust issues or something?  The guy may have bought the account for signature campaigning itself. It's hard to get a spot on bitmixer and they currently have one of the best price compared to other campaign so I wouldn't think deceiving others is the reason why the buyer bought the account but just to earn a spot on bitmixer. In your example he buys an account to 'earn a spot on bitmixer' which, according to you sounds perfectly reasonable, yes? Except for the fact that every single post he subsequently makes, which will bear more weight because he is a Hero member, will sway users into both believing that the content of the post is likely to be the work of somebody who is greatly experienced within the cryptosphere AND that the signature advert is, therefore, chosen to be worn by the long-standing member of experience because he is wise enough to know it to be a legitimate and trustworthy service. Fact is the person behind that account could be a no-mark idiot who has no fucking clue what he's doing and ends up leading a whole bunch of newbie-lemmings over a cliff, figuratively-speaking. Which part of that setup sounds honest? |
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If the password changes when the account is sold, tell the person that made the positive trust that the account had been sold so they can remove it
Please also let us know so we can burn it's trust rating for being a bought account which, by default, is only purchased in order to deceive other forum users. This means the person operating that account is provably dishonest and so it should be marked as such. |
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posting positively of my experiences in the Coin Generator thread when they were positive - the site was paying out and I was on course to break even or make a profit . . .
. . .from the money stolen from other users. So you're claiming yourself to be trustworthy in the face of admitting you sought to profit from theft? Interesting reasoning. |
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Our trust shows if we are reliable enough to trade with or not, it doesn't matter whether we participate in a Ponzi site or not The trust system is not about trade. It is about communicating to other forum members whether a person has demonstrated dishonest behaviour previously. This might cause members to think twice before accepting the content of that user's posts as being objective and unbiased in relation to any number of issues or purposes.
(it doesn't shows what kind of person you are, since everyone knows that in Ponzi sites the early birds are the winners and the ones who are late will lose their money that they invest).
Everyone knows? You know this to be a fact? Tell you what, I'll save you the bother of farting up another intellectually-dishonest response, no, I've had communication from a number of people since I instigated this practice who didn't actually understand how a ponzi works. This means your absolute is false. And since you declare that "this" website is a Ponzi or not doesn't that mean you DID participate in that site to test whether it's a Ponzi or not (logically, that rips off other players money doesn't it?) I don't need to test it to know if it is a Ponzi and I know that as ALL Ponzi schemes involve stealing money from some users to pay other users, I know that it is based on theft. "The site is back online, quite faster than before too.
Well, I'll just use this website for fun... (of course I won't deposit unless they stay working for 6+ months without anyone complaining)"
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1374876.msg14100635#msg14100635
^ Isn't this the reason why you gave me a negative trust? Now here's why this is unfair;"3. Posting of your participation in any form in their threads is UNDENIABLE PROOF that you don't give a shit about other users being ripped off.
Which part of point 3 describes anything other than somebody who is PROVEN THROUGH THEIR OWN ACTIONS to be untrustworthy." You declared that we rip off other users money by participating. HOWEVER, everyone got scammed ALREADY (in Coin Generator) and they aren't getting their money back, the fact that I said I'm participating in that website now means that no one is losing money since they already lost it. Because posting of your continued use of a service isn't going to perhaps result in new-comers to the thread thinking it might be ok to participate? Or, for that matter, existing users who think if they also post that they are participating still that new-comers might send in money which could result in a share being distributed to themselves. Also, what if the players that invested here were the early birds which basically gain all the advantage in the Ponzi Scheming AND they don't lose their money. In posting your support for a ponzi in a ponzi-scam thread, you are hoping for what, exactly? Could it possibly be that you wish to encourage others to participate so that they send their money in after you and that you will receive a share of their deposit from the scammers? Yes, that is exactly what it is. Eventually the scam *will* collapse because of math, leaving a number of people having lost their money. You don't want to be the one who doesn't get paid, fact. You post in ponzi threads to hopefully make sure other users are the ones who don't get paid, fact. Your lack of shit-giving for other users losing their money in order for you to get paid is undeniable proof of the scumbag you are, fact. Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" Now no one will trade with me since they'll think that my reputation went bad because I scammed someone? Plain stupidity. No, people will refuse to trade with you because you have been proven to not care where your profit comes from, even when it is from the theft of money from other people. |
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Admin should do something about this, don't get me wrong giving 1 warning is ok for me
One warning is ok for you, scammer? LOL! Thanks for clearing that up. |
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See what the people of concern butthurt scammers who left untrusted feedback to him said There, FIFY. My favourite so far is the rating left by Nani275 This crazy man is angry, because I'm all their comments supporting evidence of transactions. And if I got paid honestly, I consider it my duty - to confirm this fact.
The impression is created that he is competing of another Ponzi))
This person does not consider it necessary to study the rules of games and forums, and then all the accused. He needs to learn to be read as a minimum. And not only write bad things.
He rushes through the branches, constantly writes spam - slogans in big red letters, and blames often unfounded. Trol - a prude. All he had tired of bitter radish worse.
It's disgusting. Fu. Enough Foresey, the same to me, "Messiah" ... "All he had tired of bitter radish worse." Beautiful. Simply beautiful. Thank you, Nani, I am deeply touched. |
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This topic was definitely posted in the wrong category, but it was based on a user asking a question about the game, not by the developer or company that owns the game itself. Because we never see scammers pretending to be 'innocent' users, right? There is no investment involved Which is why I said it shouldn't have been in this section, otherwise it is correctly assumed to require investment. Get it? it just goes to show that you're willing to fire your guns at anything, even without researching it first. You clearly have no idea how quickly scammers move when they post threads with multiple supporting socks posting 'innocent' participation posts. Seriously, the thread appeared here, I move to get the warning in quickly. But I also resolved the matter quickly, what more do you think I should be doing? If I spend too much time analysing a scam it risks gaining too much momentum. as much as I can appreciate that you're looking out for the best interest of other people, WHO THE FUCK CARES?! It's THEIR money, not yours. http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1382239.msg14068566#msg14068566 - It isn't about their money. And stop false-flagging shit that doesn't even need to be false flagged. Right, so I make one incorrect judgement out of how many and you imply I need to be stopped, as though it is a frequent and problematic issue? Look at the fucking timeline on this thread, how much faster do you think I should have been in addressing the issue of the true status of this game? More importantly, rather than me simply ignoring the thread and assuming it was legit until someone else declares there's something fishy going on, I actually responded with a proper evaluation for the OP and everyone else concerned. I think you'll find my actions have actually contributed more to answer the OP's questions than anyone else did. |
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Site T&C's reviewed
According to what is understood to be the nature of this game, it is not an 'investor-based' game at all. It appears to simply be a game which offers in-game purchase of tokens which allow the players to advance to higher levels faster, much like most games of this genre do these days.
The 25% commission for referrals appears to be nothing more than a generous way to reward participants for encouraging more people to play and purchase in-game items.
The prizes being offered for each 'round' appear to be static rewards offered by the game company as an incentive to play and, in order to win, purchase in-game items.
Following this review I am of the opinion that this thread is in the wrong forum section and, more importantly, the game operates on a legitimate principal.
I request the those of you who quoted my warning in this thread, please remove it to avoid any confusion for other users.
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Can i help you with the translate? You want to read a particularly piece? I normally like to read the whole thing, to be honest, but I am particularly needing to read any section which relates to both the idea of users sending in money and how the company states they distribute 'winnings' back to the users. http://www.mobstermaffia.com/legal/terms_nl.pdfAs I mentioned already, I'd like to understand where this 25% referral scheme fits in if it isn't based on taking 25% of new referred-user deposits and giving them to the referrer, which is normally a massive red flag for scam. [edit] LOL! Just spotted the 'terms_nl' part, it isn't German, it's Dutch! That'll explain why translate failed. Ok, I've got a better version to read through now. |
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I did ask like a sane person. Do my words confuse you?
Look up, we are in the Investor-based games section, this is where threads are put when a 'service' requires users to send it money as part of their participation process.
Recently there have been a number of interactive 'games' which were still based on the ponzi principal on the backend
So, if this thread appears here, signifying that yes, it does indeed require 'investors' to send in money and also has a similar 'game' theme as other known scams, exactly how am I wrong to assume it to be simply a variation on the same?
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Yes, if it does not, as some have claimed have a structure which is preponderantly the act of encouraging other people to send money in so that earlier 'players' are paid a share of those funds, then it isn't necessarily a scam.
That's why I am asking about that 25% referral because I don't see what it relates to. The T&C's of that site are in German and google translate utterly failed to do a usable translation on it for me.
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Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi Scam
Do Not Invest!
Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Please stop spamming in all threads. We all well aware of the risks associated with HYIP.Agree with that. it is gambling-investment. What they do is spamming what i guess is against the rules here The only one who is spamming are you scamming asshats with your dubious schemes. Get a real job idiot. Instead of acting as a parot. Whe are free to do what we want with our money. Cunt I do have a real job unlike you deciding to run scamming scheme. Your parents must be really proud of you for you to be carrying on their work. They are, because i work hard for my money but not accuse others without any prove. Fuck off, people are free to do what they want with their money. You are useless. And you will not do any favor to the investors, you and others with posting this shit are killing this forum. BTC was based on anonymous and freedom not that others will tell you what to do. We're not telling you what to do, we're telling you there will be consequences for what you do. Big difference, scammer. |
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Are you kidding? Have you even been to the site, or tried the game? You don't invest anything. It's a game. A simple game with rewards for the top players after the round ends in May. There are no investments involved. There are no "upgrades" there. It's a simple game like Mafia Wars.
Do your god damn research. Seriously, your red flagging is getting quite ridiculous. You're flooding the Gambling section with your copy and paste bullshit without even doing your homework. I actually thought that you served a purpose in helping protect users, but after your post in this thread... I've lost respect for you.
Meh. Zero fucks given about your respect. I do, however, care for whether I am incorrect about a potential scam so, once you're done throwing your toys out of the pram, could you explain to me a couple of thing: 1. What is this thread doing in investor-based games if nobody need send it any money? 2. 25% referral earnings! - <This, 25% of what? Because referral payments, particularly high percentage referral payments, generally mean scam. If I am wrong I will remove my warning. |
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