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1241  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: DoubleBot.com - The only one place to double your BTC with a 100% guarantee. on: May 23, 2016, 11:04:58 AM
It's very funny when the Ponzi sites owner (cryptodevil) crying "Do not invest!" here.
I think that my site is bad for your business, right?

Stop your stupid spam and scam.

His site? What's his site? Give the link if you have.

Please do! I would be fucking fascinated to find that I run or own a ponzi site!

1242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 23, 2016, 06:18:46 AM
I still find your interpretation of anonymous extremely narrow

Wow you are one slippery individual, talk about disingenuous. Stop repeating the same dishonest spin on the definition of the word 'anonymous'.

Bitcoin is not anonymous it is pseudo-anonymous
Leocoin is not anonymous it is pseudo-anonymous

You are attempting to play down the absolutely fraudulent claim towards Leocoin being, in very explicitly stated terms, "truly anonymous", by wanting to pretend that through some sort of magical means, when they say "truly anonymous" they actually mean pseudo-anonymous.

The more you defend and excuse this dishonest claim the more dishonest you yourself appear to be.

1243  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Interest-Earning Sites. on: May 23, 2016, 06:13:31 AM
Why promote them when you yourself aren't sure, whether they're safe or not?

As I said in your butt-hurt thread, ^^^ This.
1244  Other / Meta / Re: Trust system abused by caring, overzealous members. on: May 23, 2016, 06:12:10 AM
As far as I can see there is absolutely no good reason to promote these operations. If they want to work to earn customers they can do so themselves without you creating a random list which will likely end up simply being a collection of scams with one or two legitimate services.

Each one should have it's own thread where they can work to prove themselves as not being ponzis. The legit ones will fare well enough under scrutiny and the fraudulent scams will quickly be exposed as such.

By all means, please explain why the bold paragraph isn't a reasonable resolution and, please, don't get all pissy about an issue being made out of people promoting services which are extremely high risk of scamming. I delete ratings where users cooperate and seek to resolve the problem. Simply calling for the choir of the usual suspects to begin their poo-flinging while they pretend like they don't have an ulterior motive for complaining about me shutting their shit down isn't going to solve anything.

Why promote them when you yourself aren't sure, whether they're safe or not?

^^^This.


1245  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: DoubleBot.com - The only one place to double your BTC with a 100% guarantee. on: May 23, 2016, 05:59:12 AM
Seems some people need reminding:

Public Service Announcement -
This is just another Ponzi/Pyramid Scam
Do Not Invest!

Those who choose to post of their participation
support or encouragement for this scam will
be tagged with negative trust for proving
they wish to help the scammers operate this
Ponzi in return for a share of the funds stolen
from other users. Thereby proving they are not
trustworthy forum members.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
1246  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme on: May 23, 2016, 05:55:55 AM

Its a legit established company. And yes, you need a deposit to withdraw other than wire. If you have no deposits, you can withdraw via wire by submitting ID proof to get your 20
Here's my proof :

Says the guy who is selling HYIP/Doubler ponzi scam scripts.

GTFO.

1247  Economy / Services / Re: Banner, Favicon and Logo - contest: Reward 0.05 btc, 0.025 and 0.035 btc. on: May 23, 2016, 05:52:22 AM
You can post here

If you want to show the forum how keen you are to help scammers set up their scam operation.

1248  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Interest-Earning Sites. on: May 21, 2016, 02:42:26 PM
As far as I can see there is absolutely no good reason to promote these operations. If they want to work to earn customers they can do so themselves without you creating a random list which will likely end up simply being a collection of scams with one or two legitimate services.

Each one should have it's own thread where they can work to prove themselves as not being ponzis. The legit ones will fare well enough under scrutiny and the fraudulent scams will quickly be exposed as such.



1249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 21, 2016, 02:28:12 PM
I'm not asking for you to apologise, I'm asking for you to be honest.

Quote
Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

The statement made on the leocoin.org website is not just misleading, because it is used as a potential selling point, a supposed unique feature of this particular coin which is being promoted to the general public, it is blatantly fraudulent and anybody who understand the technology knows this. So either you are saying the people within your coin network organisation don't understand the technology they are promoting, or they are making false statements they know to be untrue for financial gain.



1250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 20, 2016, 04:35:52 PM
Your claim of lies is exaggerated...flim flam fnurgle

Quote from: leocoin.org

Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

Which part of that explicit claim is *Not* an outright lie?

"We have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency"

Bollocks.


http://explorer.leocoin.org/address/LLH3y3GzRnQ1AR43Hwssyk3RiKaCnjEaxF

Tell me, who is owning these LEOcoins?

Why do I need to tell you that? It is an irrelevant question to the indisputable fact that, just like bitcoin, Leocoin is only pseudo-anonymous, it is absolutely not "truly anonymous" as it has an unencrypted public blockchain displaying every single transaction and address from Genesis block to now. Just. Like. Bitcoin.

But, then, I see you are simply reverting to your usual tactic of attempting to obfuscate the issue through deflecting it elsewhere.

So, back to the question you have failed to answer and are attempting to dishonestly avoid;
Quote from: leocoin.org

Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.
Which part of this statement is *not* a lie?

Let's break it down nice and simple for you so you don't get confused:

"Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods," - This implies the transactions are encrypted, when the truth is only the public/private key process involves encryption. The blockchain, as I mentioned is entirely unencrypted and open to public analysis.

"we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency" - As I already pointed out, LEOcoin is merely pseudo-anonymous, so it is utterly dishonest to claim it is, "truly anonymous".

"in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level" - Remember the term I keep using to describe LEOcoin's true state on this subject, 'pseudo-anonymous'? Yeah, it means that the coin network is only anonymous on a, you guessed it, SUPERFICIAL LEVEL.

So, three assertions, all proven to be lies.

Not only that, I brought this to your attention six months ago. This isn't something you can wave off, it is a fraudulent claim which intentionally misleads the public. Why is it still being touted as true when it is a lie and you know it is a lie?

1251  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes on: May 20, 2016, 03:00:54 PM
If you actually bothered to read the link I gave you it is perfectly clear why negative ratings are the weapon of choice against scammers and those who support them.

That IBG is getting fewer new scam threads with much shorter lifespans is evidence enough that this community action works.


1252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 20, 2016, 02:43:44 PM
Your claim of lies is exaggerated...flim flam fnurgle

Quote from: leocoin.org

Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

Which part of that explicit claim is *Not* an outright lie?

"We have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency"

Bollocks.
1253  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes on: May 20, 2016, 02:30:59 PM
Freedoge, perhaps this will help you better understand that this is a community action, not a forum rule:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1381105.0

In that it is a community action you can quit demanding that staff attend to your displeasure and simply accept that you are being held to account for your actions by the community.

Ponzi schemes *need* people to post encouraging comments in order for them to function. This policy of marking users who help these scams function is extremely effective at limiting their propagation, particularly when it comes to the fact it is no longer worthwhile for scammers to buy senior forum accounts with which to fraudulently vouch for their operation.

That scammers are trying to hide in other forum sections isn't sufficient as most experienced users are quick to flag them as a likely ponzi and then they are moved into IBG and dealt with accordingly.

BTW, not all threads in IBG are scam operations, just most of them.

1254  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org supports illegal ponzi schemes on: May 20, 2016, 12:51:57 PM
i kindly asked him to remove, got no response. But he is none to give such feedbacks. He is not the staff or moderator of this forum.

You *kindly* asked me to remove the rating?

So I can add liar to the description of your untrustworthy behaviour?

You responded in thread by giving an excuse for supporting ponzis which does not hold up to scrutiny, namely, that EVERYONE knows how ponzis work and that it is 'like gambling'. Neither of which are true statements. Ten minutes later you posted that I should be banned from the forum.

being involved in ponzi game it not a reason to give red trust, it's nothing illegal and everyone involved knows how ponzi schemes works, it's like gambling so please remove your feedback. thanks!
yeah this cryptodevil user has some issues, look at the list of feedbacks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=224980 he is giving to other people, acting like he is some kind of cop, should be banned for life from this forum.

it's nothing illegal
This depends on the jurisdiction where you live, but it may well be.

and everyone involved knows how ponzi schemes works
That's a lie and you know it.

it's like gambling
This is somewhat true, though gambling sites are usually a lot more transparent than Ponzi schemes in how they operate. Therefore, it isn't a very good comparison.

should be banned for life from this forum.
For trying to protect people from scams? No. It tends to only be those trying to be dishonest and push said schemes to unsuspecting users that say things like this.
i won't argue with you or discuss ponzi schemes. The fact is that this game has very transparent rules about affiliate commissions, it's very basic game where you need only 2 referrals to profit, so unless the admin doesn't pay this game is legit. Based on that i'm going to leave negative feedback to cryptodevil "cop" guy for false accusations based on no facts without doing proper research. Someone must stop this scam obsessed individual, so if you are honest and neutral, you must admit that cryptodevil made a huge mistake.

"Someone must stop this scam obsessed individual" - Stated as though it means something really profound. Pro-tip: It doesn't.

1255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 20, 2016, 08:35:37 AM
You were the one making claims about how the pre-mine supposedly protected the network from 51% POW attack, I merely pointed out that assertion was false. Or, to use the dreaded vulgar vernacular, that assertion was indeed bollocks.

So what about the continued lies about anonymity?

Any response yet on why this coin has always been, and is still being, touted as possessing the 'holy-grail' tech of complete anonymity when it clearly does not and never has?

@cryptodevil

good point, I will look into this. Some level of anonymity will be present, I suppose, but not complete anonymity, after all, the internet is involved ...

You said you'd look into why it was being touted as such, did you?
1256  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 20, 2016, 05:58:01 AM
And you can find an explanation from rat4 on how he successfully attacked POS/POW Mintcoin here:

Attack II

Current implementation of stake miner gives up if median time of last blocks is in future.
This temporarily makes the whole network PoW-only and opens well known 51% PoW attack.

Attacker needs only 6 of 11 last blocks.

Successfully tested on Mintcoin: no PoS blocks from 203231 up to 203441, more than 1 hour of real time.

Why do you think Mintcoin switched to pure PoS? Your claim that a botnet can't fork the network because of the pre-mine is false. The question is whether you are intentionally making this claim in order to wave off questions about the pre-mine or you are being fed this excuse by the people who hold the pre-mine.

So, again, why is Leocoin still claiming this, six months after I challenged you on it?
Quote
Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

You can evade the issue by saying you didn't write that, but as "The Leocoin Foundation" you are basically choosing to ignore a fraudulent claim being made to the general public on the actual leocoin.org website!

1257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 19, 2016, 04:49:05 PM

You again miss the point, it does not require a 'stake' to mine a PoW block. There is no requirement for PoS in a POW/POS hybrid. So if a botnet has >51% hashing power it can double-spend and pretty much dictate the blockchain. How does this pre-mine 'protect' the blockchain from this? Answer: It doesn't, so stop saying it does.


Quote from: leocoin.org
Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

You said this fraudulent claim would be removed when I first challenged you on it, but there it still is.

Yes, sorry, but we are busy with other things. At least LEOcoin is not less pseudonymous as others. And, fyi, I did not write that copy.

Hey, Leocoin Foundation, care to explain how this amazing coin achieves this?
Quote
Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

Because true anonymity is an awfully difficult thing to achieve and the Leocoin github hasn't been updated in over a year, which would surely mean that hidden in its cut-and-paste code is the holy grail of anonymity?

I'm betting it isn't.

You've been that busy for the last six months you couldn't possibly spare any time to address the outright fraudulent lies being spouted on your coin's .org website?

If you cannot communicate in a normal way, without vulgar expressions, you soon can join the 'late parrot group' of users that no longer get a response because they got rude.

It is painfully obvious to anybody else witnessing this conversation that you are desperately clinging to the "if you can't speak nicely then I will ignore you" dishonest response to questions you don't like.

1258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 19, 2016, 03:22:44 PM
Stake? Leocoin is proof-of-work, why are you bringing 'staking' into this when discussing the, alleged, botnet?

Seeing as you're insisting on making an arse of yourself when it comes to failing to understanding the technology, why the fuck is this still on the leocoin website when I already told you months ago it was bullshit or, seeing how upset you get about the use of vulgar expression,  an outright fucking lie?

Quote from: leocoin.org
Through the use of advanced cryptography and encryption methods, we have managed to make LEOcoin a truly anonymous digital currency, in contrast to others which are anonymous only on a superficial level.

You said this fraudulent claim would be removed when I first challenged you on it, but there it still is.

1259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN - LEOcoin - Official announcement regarding LEOcoin from LEOcoin Foundation on: May 19, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
the premine prevented the botnet miners to take over the blockchain, once they got 51% of the POW hashes.

*raises hand*

Ummm, I'd just like to point out . . .that's bollocks.

As you were, whatever it is you're pretending to do in this thread.
1260  Other / Meta / Re: Please remove 'cryptodevil' from default trust on: May 19, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Also, why did you make this case now since you received your rating on: 2016-04-03 ?

I figure it's probably because the negative rating is harming his ability to sell his account 'package':
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