Saw your project on the national newspaper today, the whole page,it started about how we"ll have a bunch of floating cities in the future and at the end about blue frontiers company and their upcoming ico. The best thing is that I dont think that that was payed marketing and the biggest newspapers in the county wrote about this subject because its interesting.
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When you expect to have first settlements?
The goal is for the first platform to be built in 2021. Do you plan to have settlements in Europe too? We want to have these all over the world. You can sign up for the $100k contest to try to bring a Blue Frontiers seastead to your country: https://www.blue-frontiers.global/So if we manage to sort out that you come to certain country we get rewarded? From the website: Once your host government passes the legislation required to implement the pilot project, you will be awarded 100,000 Varyon immediately, and $100,000 USD once the pilot is actually built. |
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When you expect to have first settlements?
The goal is for the first platform to be built in 2021. Do you already have some people interested in moving there ? We get thousands of e-mails from people wanting to move there. The demand is certainly there. |
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When you expect to have first settlements?
The goal is for the first platform to be built in 2021. Do you plan to have settlements in Europe too? We want to have these all over the world. You can sign up for the $100k contest to try to bring a Blue Frontiers seastead to your country: https://www.blue-frontiers.global/ |
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When you expect to have first settlements?
The goal is for the first platform to be built in 2021. |
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The promise of the kind of freedom it can give is very enticing but at the same time, it's also frightening--- let's not forget "Lord of the Flies".  The reality is that most people do not truly want freedom. They just like the slogans. For the rest of us, there's Bitcoin and seasteading. |
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people can vote with their homes.
I realise it may take a while, but... Won't this idea eventually suffer from the same problems that land based homesteading did? There are only so many inhabitable parts of the ocean, and the good spots will naturally attract more people, which in turn will naturally attract intelligent psychopaths that want to impose self-serving rules on those living there. How do you vote with your house if smart egomaniacs create a worldwide seasteading governance cartel? These clever assholes will even collude to make the rules are superficially different between the seastead communities, and so the illusion of choice begins all over again. Or is the tech likely to become so flexible that a very high percentage of the ocean (60-80% maybe?) is affordably inhabitable? As the tech improves the ability to live on any part of the ocean will grow. The first seastead will likely be in a calm lagoon by a host country. The evolution from there will be to build 12nm out from a nation in a location with waves. Once that has proven itself then a seastead 200nm out will be the goal. At that point you're in the open ocean and it's mostly the same other than going where there are less hurricanes and less rogue waves. It is likely that going into any area with large waves will require floating wave breakers and those will likely use the power of the waves to create energy. The earth is covered 70% by water. There is more space to live there than on land. I doubt any single entity can buy every seastead considering even a small group of people can find an open part of the water to move and not be under their thumb. This is definitely a situation where technology will ruin the plans of centralized powers, much like Bitcoin. |
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There are many countries with no income taxes. Where I live, French Polynesia, for instance. Okay, but are there any countries that speak english and are also not leftist? Yes, many near the US. Cayman Islands Bermuda Bahamas Turks & Caicos to name a few They also have roads. |
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All I know is that it's been a long time since bcash has been pumped and I'm hoping to get more free money damnit.
Come on bcashers. Pump that shit.
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I agree with something along the lines of flat tax; zero discouragement to maximise your income and probably this kind of tax has to be sales based.
Bad idea. Very regressive. Regressive would be if the tax rate was higher for lower incomes. A -flat tax- is by definition not a higher rate for lower income. The rate is...flat. Even so, the shitty flat tax proposed every year has a rebate for everyone of the spending they would do up to poverty level. Basically, everyone gets a check every month from the government. I see that as opening the door to some commie bullshit down the line as they just raise the poverty level to a million. Not much can save the US with over $20 trillion of debt. Other than a full on collapse and reboot. There are many countries with no income taxes. Where I live, French Polynesia, for instance. They have roads. |
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Thanks Elwar. Going to check out the bounty.What kind of content would be the best to create regarding videos? Focus on the vision and idea or more on VAR and blockchain side of the project?
Whatever you're most comfortable with. Go with what you know  |
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Great article and nice to see project is being promoted in public.Kinda backtracking to your previous video about 20 areas for blockchain integration on island.About polling one- have you heard about ClearPoll Elwar?
I checked it out and that's about what we should be looking for to get a consensus of what people support on the seastead. Though I can understand why they did so, their code is not open source. For any major vote I would want to ensure that the system is open and transparent. But for getting a feel for how people feel this is a great app. I wrote one of the first voting systems for Bitcoin many years back and have seen many different products since. The blockchain is a great tool for open/secure voting. |
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Funny that you are making your "bitcoin is broken" arguments in the bcash WO thread... Why not just join the Bcashers and build upon that BIG blocker confirmed platform? Anyhow, your facts about the "need" for a bitcoin dynamic block size seems to be weak at best, yet I still don't really understand why you complain about bitcoin when you gots ur selfie some bcash to work with that solves and focuses on that particular BIG blocker solution... What it wrong with that? Be gone to bcash, right?
No, this is definitely the place for the bitcoin vs bcash debate. The moderator for this thread openly supports such discussion here. If it were to infiltrate the bitcoin part of bitcointalk it would just become annoying as hell. In the altcoin section it makes sense. |
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It's the travel business. Guaranteed profits you know. Because... who doesn't like to travel to exotic places?
Don't be so picky and go all in, you are missing the train!
I just bought a bunch with my credit card. Should be able to lock in some pretty sweet profits before my bill is due. |
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Now can we get on with doing the same for all the mETH heads and all the ICO shitcoin lovers?
The only ICO that isn't for a shitcoin is the HoweyCoins ICO that's endorsed by theymos and all the mods. It's officially registered with the U.S. government and SEC compliant. You are GUARANTEED PROFIT from your investment from it. Theymos himself made its announcement thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3920469.0Invest all your Bitcoins in it, and if you don't have any money to invest get a huge loan. This is the bounty thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4029040.0Theymos GUARANTEES PROFIT from it. Please show me where Theymos guarantees profit. Registering with the SEC and guaranteeing profit is an oxymoron. edit: nvm...should have caught the name Howey... |
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What will be the price of one of those settlements?
There has been an evolving number over the past year due to different designs. Mainly the 25x25m platforms were estimated to cost around $10 million. But I've seen that they are doing different variations with bungalows and condos, so they might be priced differently. Nothing will really be set in stone until all of the engineering and design is done which is the main bulk of what the ICO funds will go toward. But the goal is to average around $200k per person to live there. How far away from the shore will those settlements be? We are still vetting several locations in French Polynesia. I will personally be going to sites, likely in July, to do some depth testing, some aerial viewing, etc. to see how viable the locations are. The plan is to find a location that is as calm as possible while still fairly close to shore within a protected lagoon. It would likely only be out a few hundred meters to begin with. They will also be taking into account the coral reef and ensuring that we locate it in a place that has zero impact (unless helpful) to the wildlife in the lagoon. |
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I wanted to know more so I went to https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/varyon and it seems you have to give them all your information before you're able to buy the tokens or sign up. That's a bit discouraging. I like the project but I'm usually very careful about sites that want more than my email. If you just want more information you can sign up on that link at the bottom or subscribe on this link at the bottom: https://www.blue-frontiers.comto get on the mailing list. The company will be doing full KYC/AML for the sale so they will definitely be taking information for that. Being an actual physical company building real world physical things they have to follow more regulations than just utility tokens. We talked to more lawyers than we had ever hoped to talk to about all of this. Being a Singapore company with founders in 4 different countries building in French Polynesia and likely more countries, it was not your typical out of the box company. Blue Frontiers is erring on the side of caution by taking every step necessary to follow the letter of the law on this. Some ICOs have had to return the funds raised and none of the founders want to go to jail for violating the law. Hopefully through seasteading we can introduce a bit more freedom in governance so that things like KYC/AML are something we look back at and laugh about. |
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Elwar I know that you claim that you aren't hired by Blue Frontiers but surely they have a Representative that could ask all the questions and engage with it's community a little more?
If you are telling you truth you are literally doing someones job for them and not receiving any benefit at all.
I have been volunteering for Blue Frontiers since last May. They have over 70 volunteers that have been spending the past year supporting the project since they opened up the volunteer program. We literally turn people away who want to volunteer for the group to not overwhelm the group with too many new people each week who would need to be caught up. At least until we start getting things going. I have been involved in seasteading for the past 10 years and this is the first viable project to come along. I am doing everything I can to make it happen, even moving to French Polynesia to lend my support as needed. For me, the benefit will be a potential future free of the government idiocy that we all have to live with every day. I put in many hours for various libertarian candidates, this is no different. Answering a few questions is no big deal, I did the same thing for Bitcoin in the early days. There is a team of people on various social media sites answering questions. I told them I would handle bitcointalk since I'm on here all the time anyway. In theory they would give me some varyon for my work if I claimed my hours but what's more important for me is the success of this project. If there is more engaging with the community necessary I can certainly ask others on the team to chime in. They hang out mostly on our telegram channel if you want quicker answers to any questions. https://t.me/bluefrontierscommunityhow can we volunteer for the project and support it? What does team need or could use in terms of volunteers at the moment? Right now the main focus is on the ICO so creating content and spreading the word through the Bounty program is probably the best way. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3742962.0;topicseenIf you have some expertise you would like to contribute, please contact Blue Frontiers here: https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/contact |
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