That was a close one, my WRs didn't do much nor did Taylor's boyfriend, but I got lucky with Dak.

It's not a fine line at all, not to a normal person anyway. You're way over the line in the hypocritical lunacy territory.

And while no one can really "exclude" you from selling out, these impressive flips of mental gymnastics should probably exclude you from trust lists of sane users of this forum.

To me it seems that a self-mod OP going on a rampage and emptying multiple threads for no reason should be dealt with in a similar way as a moderator on a rampage would be dealt with. I think in the latter case deleted content would be restored. And the person would likely be stripped of the delete-other-users-posts privilege.

I would argue that even self-mod threads that Ratimov cleaned out should be restored and locked, if that's not done already.

Not to mention that we've had people banned for less, whereas he's not getting even a slap on the wrist so that's kinda screwed up as far as disincentives to fuck with forum privileges.

Your link points to one conspiratard who quotes another conspiratard who refers to a court decision that literally has no mention of any such bullshit like "CIA sponsored nazis". The court sentenced riot police officers who were under the control of Yanukovich government, so basically the exact opposite of what you're claiming.

That's what I said:


There's a good reason for it, e.g. you don't want to start handing out bans for memes and twitter screenshots, and in many contexts it's quite obvious that the image serves as a quote and/or has a built-in reference via the URL. It's just that sleezeballs will abuse it, like they're abusing self-mod feature.

Some users have deleted a bunch of their own posts. That's fair game I think, whatever the reason, e.g. privacy.

Some users have abused self-mod threads. There is one prolific troll (korner) who's been doing this for years with multiple accounts - creates a click-bait self-mod thread, waits for it to grow to a few pages, then selectively deletes other users' posts and edits his own posts to completely change the narrative. Obviously tons of scammers abuse this feature too.

I don't recall someone just deleting a bunch of self-mod threads completely. I don't know how valuable those threads were, I'm guessing not particularly, but if there was any value in them I'd say LoyceV or someone else could perhaps appeal to admins to have the threads reinstated and locked.

Why would mods just play along with Ratimov instead of banning him for creating this mess is kinda puzzling though.

Did you claim that you wrote this shitpost yourself?

Generally we don't do that, it's the implied default unless stated otherwise. And it's not about copyright. Copying something that's not protected by copyright/watermark/etc would still be plagiarism.

The "data source" is referring to part of the data (market cap information) that Bloomberg used in the chart, it has nothing to do with Ratimov lifting Bloomberg's work and posting here without reference.

Ok, I have to say that whatever unpleasant opinion I had about Ratimov I was still way way too kind to him. I thought that after he got caught plagiarising he would surely have learned something, like maybe to include links. Well, he surely learned how to not get caught: (a) plagiarise images; (b) from behind paywalls. Considering that mods probably won't be enforcing plagiarism rules on an image, and/or not going out of their way to look behind paywalls - brilliant strategy.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-crypto-contagion-from-bitcoin-to-FTX/



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Edit: The first image is a screenshot from the Bloomberg article, not merely hotlinking or copy-pasting an image. The chart on Bloomberg website is not an image, it's text overlaid on a background image or perhaps on some SVG contraption, not sure. Anyway, this is functionally equivalent to copy-pasting text except he took a screenshot. The second image is more convoluted. He may have made a GIF out of multiple PNGs taken from the Bloomberg article.

There are always some people who get easily swayed by populists. Internet may have made it easier. I doubt it's a US-specific problem.


Maybe. A wannabe dictator saying that "deep state" is at fault for all their problems and that he'll make the country "great again" may disincentivize some people from trying to do something on their own. I personally known some people who are working dead end minimum wage jobs and blindly repeating Fox News repertoire as excuses to not even try to look for another job... something about immigrants or black people getting everything for free, and Biden stealing their money and sending it to Ukraine. But they might just be lazy dimwits regardless of politics.


Yes, fearmongering is essential for dictatorships. The thing is that it usually needs to go along with fierce censorship, otherwise people will find out that the Kraken is fake. Luckily for Trump, his supporters tend to self-censor themselves into believing only the things that he tells them to believe and dismissing everything else as fake news. Not only that, but even when he goes full 1984 (like recently denying that Sidney Kraken Powell was ever his lawyer), his supporters still reject any facts to the contrary.

You all should be ashamed. How dare you not appreciate the hard work of copy-pasting texts from random websites into Google Translate and then into Bitcointalk. Your utter failure to provide necessary praise and admiration offended Ratimov and now we will all have to suffer the absence of this valuable content. This forum will never be the same.

There is a significant percentage of people who will believe anything that they can blame for their own issues, be it "deep state", Kraken, bad brown people, bad gay people, nazi Ukraine, nazi Israel, Hunter Biden's laptop, anything to avoid taking responsibility for their own fuckups like a normal functioning adult is supposed to do. Most of them can't even articulate what it is though, let alone figure out if Trump or anybody else promising to fight "deep state" can actually do that, so it's a great scarecrow that can be used in any context without any consequences.

Certainly not the first time he's flying off the handle, and he's never ever wrong. Not quite the qualities I'd expect from a DT member.

Also keep in mind that even when caught plagiarising he thought the best excuse is not admitting that was he was doing was unethical, but that Google Translate made him do it. IMO on the scale of trustworthiness that's right up there with another plagiarist who got off by claiming they bought the plagiarist account.


But then I won't be able to bitch about spineless DT1...

I can't be arsed to dig through archives, but Ratimov had a post here in this thread that I was replying to and he removed it. Something about reconciliation. Anyway, it sounded like an extortion attempt, like remove negative things you said about me and I'll remove my red trust. Also he removed and reposted his red trust on GazetaBitcoin, which I think shows that any such "deal offers" don't mean shit.

FWIW I suggested that GazetaBitcoin should remove their red rating on Ratimov and not engage in tit-for-tat. I do believe however that weaponizing the trust system the way Ratimov does is not acceptable but because of the spineless nature of DT1 there is basically no recourse.

"Oh but his other ratings are ok"... well tough shit, Lauda had a bunch of good ratings and was 100x more valuable to the forum than Ratimov ever will be, and got excluded. One can be a valuable forum member outside of DT.

This sounds backwards. As a DT1 member yourself you should care whether a trust abuser such as Ratimov (whose rating on GazetaBitcoin is not appropriate for DT IMO, as well as some others) should be excluded, instead of "what about all those other abusers". Most of the time trust abuse allegations are brought up by those who are on the receiving end of said abuse. There is nothing wrong with that and this doesn't obligate them to bring up every other abuse as well.

Great success... from May 9 parade in Kyiv to capturing a pile of waste. Whoever is responsible for this great achievement probably needs to avoid airplanes - victorious Russian invaders have a habit of dying in plane crashes.

This has not really about the Russian language. Ratimov was copy-pasting texts that just barely technically didn't qualify as "plagiarism" according to forum rules and/or moderator interpretation but it would have been plagiarism for a reasonable observer. Whether he has done anything like that since then (this was 2-3 years ago IIRC) - I don't know, probably not, he's one of those adaptive sleazeballs except when he flies off the handle and starts attacking people who dare to call him out.

Definitely not DT material but it has little to do with DT members being afraid of him as the useless shitpuppet OP is alleging. If you look at Ratimov's DT1 "sponsors", there is quite a bit of backscratching going on, Russian members supporting him for whatever tribalism they have going on there, and a few others who probably can't be arsed to research whom they have in their trust lists (and arguably shouldn't be in DT1 themselves, I mean Best_Change LOL).

Same reason you're sockpuppeting with this cringy shit... freedom of fucking speech or something, every person has the right to be an idiot any way they want here.

Now if you actually decided to stand for something and post from your main account and make a solid case based with proof and whatnot - that would be a noteworthy event in this cesspool.

Seeing how useless this thread is I'm starting to wonder if you're trying to poison the well. Can't really tell if you're dumb enough for that.

"Motion to give BADecker a special designation"

Like this?



That'd be a great recognition of his special contributions to this forum.