I'm playing in planetofbets and I got my poyout only 5 minutes later when I want. good job, good bet site http://www.planetofbets.co withdraw in btc ? Thanks. They are going to be taken off the list since they are primarily a fiat book accepting bitcoins.
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gogo- I'll look into all the NRs and take some down in a day or two.
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Are you unable to see the issues going on at Betcoin.ag?
I've noticed what's happening in the poker room although that's ignored for the ratings of sportsbooks. It seems that all is fine in the sportsbook. The part where scammers got hold of users login/email info in Jan and Betcoin is pretending it had nothing to do with them? Wasn't that phishing?
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Are you unable to see the issues going on at Betcoin.ag?
I've noticed what's happening in the poker room although that's ignored for the ratings of sportsbooks. It seems that all is fine in the sportsbook.
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im not support anyone in this list i use all of this,
but somehow small issue with human error from the member (user) not from bookmakers report in this thread and make the site is downgrade thats funny.
like the case cloudbet who withdrawal to wrong valid bitcoin address. LOL if cloudbet make the refund so many ppl will claim that he had this issue too claim wrong withdrawal to his another address.
and this issue clearly human error from member. but i agree if u downgrade based on ddos slot cloudbet. LOL
It's definitely not as you portray. The same problems have been continuous. gogo is a respected member that has played with many of the books and his input is invaluable. Cloudbet has also been in contact with me.
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DirectBet uses the "back" odds from Betfair adding more take out. There is a minimum amount needed at Betfair for DirectBet to put up a line. Many times there aren't lines up on one side or both since lines are dependent upon lines at an exchange. The lines at DirectBet aren't competitive in American markets.
With deposit books when a bet is placed , the player gets notice if the bet is accepted or rejected in a short period of time. With DirectBet confirmation of accepting/rejecting a bet isn't made until the time the money leaves the players wallet until it reaches DirectBet's wallet.
Most of the time this is immediate but there is also the possibility of not knowing if a bet is accepted or rejected for an hour or more. While this hasn't happened for a while, months ago confirmations were delayed on a daily basis. Most of the time it was due to the site going up and down, but it can be from any delay in DirectBet receiving a bet after coins leaving the player's wallet.
DirectBet once had the advantage of being a non-deposit book but the advantage no longer exists with the speed in which deposits and withdrawals occur at other books. Some have instant deposit/withdrawals.
There is one case where DirectBet confiscated a player's bet along with his winnings. Depoits, wager in this case, should never be confiscated.
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We all aren't going to be in agreement of the ratings since it has to be tailored to each individual. Warnings were given about the following books prior to going under with player's funds:
Blockbet Coinbet Bit365 StakeBTC Bitcoinlivebets
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"A" rated books NitrogenSports A+ (2012)
"B"rated books Betcoinsports B+ (2013) Jetwin B+ (2013) Bitcoinrush B (2013)
"C" rated books) DirectBet C+ (2014) Betbtc C (2014) Cloudbet C (2013) Fairlay C (2014) Betmoose C- (2014) OLEBitcoin C- (2013)* Predictious C- (2013)
"D" rated books Anonibet D+ (2011) Premiumtradings D+ (2014))
"F" rated books Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players. Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players. BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history. Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players. Coindrafts F (2014) Webetcoins F (2014 Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players. Bitcoinsport F Bitcoinlivebets F Coinbet F Gobetgo F (2013) Sportbet.im F StakeBTC F Blockbet F Bitbook F
NR altbetfair.com betbanks.com betmbtc.com betinbtc.com BetVIP - closed 6/12/15 bitcasino.io/sportsbook bitsportsbook.org BTCBook Coin178.com coinbet24.com Flutterclub.com gamebet.gg lunarbets.eu lvaction.com Planetofbets.com tdsports.com xbet.io
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
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gogo- That was back in 2014. A lot changes. I don't think DirectBet has a problem with this thread here and if they do, then they are free to speak up. I don't want to rehash what was said 2 years ago and only give my side of the argument.
Anonibet has a D+ rating here but a banner at peepsplace. Pure fiat players don't care as much about a delay of a day in payouts when payout times of 15 minutes are important here.
This thread, with the help of player input, has done a good job in warning players of books that are scams.
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From Cloudbet Hi all
We have implemented some new anti-fraud measures to help preserve account security.
Part of this includes better identification of players with multiple accounts (which is against our terms of service). If you have multiple accounts, please contact support to have your other accounts closed.
Cheers, Cloudbet
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This is the latest that's been posted in the Cloudbet thread. divaker Newbie *
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 23, 2016, 09:44:24 AM Reply with quote #2832 hello admin what happened to the site while withdrawal it just showing select provider and nothing is clickable Report to moderator machinek20 Newbie *
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 23, 2016, 09:52:16 AM Reply with quote #2833 Quote from: divaker on March 23, 2016, 09:44:24 AM hello admin what happened to the site while withdrawal it just showing select provider and nothing is clickable you will see in url is withdrawal_new i think site still update, hope site have more bet like bet365 so great Report to moderator Babayega31 Newbie *
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 23, 2016, 11:08:35 AM Reply with quote #2834 please admin, for how long we cannot withdraw my account, that so critical if bet site have a problem with withdrawal. please fix it. u're the best Report to moderator syndria Full Member ***
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 23, 2016, 12:53:28 PM Reply with quote #2835 Quote from: Babayega31 on March 23, 2016, 11:08:35 AM please admin, for how long we cannot withdraw my account, that so critical if bet site have a problem with withdrawal. please fix it. u're the best
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 23, 2016, 03:31:37 PM Reply with quote #2836 I am updating. I received a reply. They said they are looking into it and the issue is more complicated than they thought. I will add my btc is still stuck in the game(I assume I have not checked again since). I do hope if this takes a long time they will credit it back to me. Also I initially deposited 5btc to get the full bonus and after this issue withdrew 4.5 btc. It did transfer but it took almost 24hrs. So anyone waiting on a withdrawl. It probably won't be instant give it at least a day. Report to moderator Pro Gamers Sr. Member ****
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View Profile Personal Message (Offline) Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino Today at 01:17:08 AM Reply with quote #2837 Quote from: drahgon on March 23, 2016, 03:31:37 PM I am updating. I received a reply. They said they are looking into it and the issue is more complicated than they thought. I will add my btc is still stuck in the game(I assume I have not checked again since). I do hope if this takes a long time they will credit it back to me. Also I initially deposited 5btc to get the full bonus and after this issue withdrew 4.5 btc. It did transfer but it took almost 24hrs. So anyone waiting on a withdrawl. It probably won't be instant give it at least a day.
5btc? You are lucky they pay you back. Dont do it if you didnt read the previous post again because this will put your widthrawal on pending if you get stuck into a unlucky situation like what everyone elses here
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Cloudbet downgraded from "C+" to "C".
A bad weekend or even a bad week can be overlooked because of changes or a DDoS attack. The casino problem at Cloudbet is irrelevant since casino and poker problems are ignored for the ratings of a sportsbook.
Even with these exceptions, Cloudbet has continued to have the same problems as far as grading times, payout times and customer service.
For ratings purposes books have to be compared to each other. The top books have been improving, staying the same at worst, while Cloudbet isn't even staying stagnant. The changes in limits and margins have hurt players.
For the above reasons, Cloudbet is downgraded.
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Flutterclub, I hope that you don't mind this post here. To all, it would be helpful if you can give feedback on your experiences with flutterclub in order to give them a proper rating. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.1860The amount of time it takes for deposits and withdrawals, thoughts on margins as well as experiences with customer service would be appreciated. If flutterclub would like, subsequent posts in this thread will be fine for consideration. Thanks
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flutterclub.com NR
Please be aware that this player is trying to create multiple accounts on our site. If he tries to get in contact looking for no deposit bonus please make sure you do a full check so as not to be fooled. Typical that once a player gets caught doing this they will instantly shout out bad press. Many of our customers would be shocked to hear that flutterclub would receive a "0" for a review To be clear to all, a poster in another thread posted that Flutterclub is a "0". The NR rating here means that Flutterclub hasn't been rated yet. A rating will go up this week.
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Waiting on 20btc from anoni for over a week. Support quotes security measures and fraud detection, can't state a timeframe for the payout, says they're in the process of re-evaluating the 2h time frame for payots.
I've just been paid. Thank you for the update. There have been other recent problems too. Reports of 2 days to a week aren't uncommon. Anonibet downgraded to D+.
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I am waiting on a payout from Cloudbet... not surprising. Don't think I'm ever sending BTC to this website again. This is absurd.
Please keep us updated on this. Thanks
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The usual litany of complaints about Cloudbet: Benchman Full Member *** Activity: 148 Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 11, 2016, 12:05:44 PM Reply with quote #2779 I can't place bet. WTF??? Probably the worst bet site ever. Trying to play on juve, but i lost 2 hours trying to place bet. Ridiculous. bitcoin.business Newbie * Activity: 9 Trust: -4: -2 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 12, 2016, 02:34:23 PM Reply with quote #2780 Process your damn withdrawals Please do not bet here.. They are not paying out withdrawals. 6 hours gone. bitcoin.business Newbie * Activity: 9 Trust: -4: -2 / +0 Warning: Trade with extreme caution! Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino March 12, 2016, 04:55:29 PM Reply with quote #2781 Stay away.. Not paying * Activity: 7 Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino Today at 05:10:46 AM Reply with quote #2782 Are there issue with Live Sports? Any games I chose to play got rejected citing bet was remove from my bet list as odds is not available. Constantly for like 5 different games. Was my account banned from making Inplay bets? machinek20 Newbie * Activity: 9 Trust: 0: -0 / +0 Ignore Re: Cloudbet.com - bitcoin sportsbook and casino | WORLDWIDE live dealer casino Today at 05:18:57 AM Reply with quote #2783 Quote from: colordeficiency on Today at 05:10:46 AM Are there issue with Live Sports? Any games I chose to play got rejected citing bet was remove from my bet list as odds is not available. Constantly for like 5 different games. Was my account banned from making Inplay bets? same problem hope admin fix soon https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.2760 Cloudbet will be downgraded again if the have multiple problems over the upcoming weekend.
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