Working with Betcoin on this since so that they can separate poker players from the players that solely bet sports. As with all poker rooms, there is cheating and abuse.
Betcoinsports did pay me 20 BTC in one payment and I haven't heard any complaints about the sportsbook.
If betcoin knows you run this thread, I think your experience will be less representative of how they actually run things. They will tell you whatever they think will impress you the most. I doubt they have any intention of actually seperated sports and poker accounts for cashouts. They are more likely just trying to make you like them. They care about what people think of them, but they are constantly trying to do sneaky stuff that makes them look good. When they get caught, they just bonus whoever noticed and carry on with their plan to maintain an honest reputation dishonestly. They also do a good job at containing complaints to their own site. They have a chat room and a forum for players to vent, which they censor heavily. If you want to see how things really are, just go watch the chat room on a Saturday or Sunday night. Managment is never around, players are often having meltdowns about some issue that ends up tying up their money till monday. TechKiddie1: 6 hrs and no grade, support unresponsive even when doing live chat, 3hr ticket not responded to at all 9:11pmTechKiddie1: Like wtf is this 9:11pmTechKiddie1: Srsly frustrated with betcoin TechKiddie1: Well they aren't even talking to me sooooooo 9:18pmTechKiddie1: Obv not that great 9:18pmTechKiddie1: Already missed all of the games I wanted to bet on 9:19pmTechKiddie1: like wtf obv they don't want my business TechKiddie1: keep the chips Idc I'll just leave this shit book if that's the case valjean: Can a nikka get a bet grade valjean: My outright not graded wither TechKiddie1: do outrights take longer or smthn? TechKiddie1: https://sports.betcoin.ag/ShareTicket/?ticketid=209647 no grade yet TechKiddie1: what gives? TechKiddie1: does betcoin usually grade esports instantly? Thank you for the input. I'll PM this thread to Betcoin to see if they have anything to add. |
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gamebet.gg - New site and there aren't many offers at this time.
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Howdy all, I do a lot of sports book gambling and have only used 2 sites. One of them being Nitrogen Sports and the other betcoin.ag. I have been using Betcoin.ag sports side for several months now and I really don't have any complaints to make. Once I noticed that even though a bet had been graded as a winner, I had not been paid out. I contacted support and they remedied it within the hour.
I consistently deposit and withdraw anywhere from 5-15 btc per day and generally speaking the deposits clear within 15 minutes. Sometimes if the bitcoin network is slow confirming it will take 30 minutes to an hour. For withdrawls I have had it take anywhere from 1 hour to 8 hours, the average being somewhere in between, lets say 4.
I actually just started using nitrogen this week because the limits on betcoin are smaller than I would like. Deposits are instant and withdraws are extremely timely, say several minutes until I see the confirmation popping up in my hot wallet. However, I will say that their odds are always 2-4% lower than betcoins, and I do not see any sort of reward loyalty program which I really like about betcoin.
Basically if betcoin would process my withdraws and deposits faster I would be 100% content with them (other than the slightly low maximum bets they take)
I have read a lot about the allegations about betcoin, and they may be true as far as poker goes I don't know but I think that generally speaking their sports book is run very well.
Cheers,
Botfather aka. CardCounter
Thanks for the feedback. "For withdrawls I have had it take anywhere from 1 hour to 8 hours, the average being somewhere in between, lets say 4." Peeps set an acceptable time limit for withdrawals - I believe it's 15 minutes (or less). 4 hours is not acceptable for btc withdrawals. There is no reason for it to take that long when other books can do it somewhere between instantly and 5 minutes. "...generally speaking the deposits clear within 15 minutes. Sometimes if the bitcoin network is slow confirming it will take 30 minutes to an hour." Deposts should be instant - there is no need to wait for confirmations and the best books don't. Working with Betcoin on this since so that they can separate poker players from the players that solely bet sports. As with all poker rooms, there is cheating and abuse. Betcoinsports did pay me 20 BTC in one payment and I haven't heard any complaints about the sportsbook. |
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I personally would rate DirectBet as one of the top few books and one of the few that is reliable.
I am going by my positive experiences when I did bet there.
I haven't used them in over a year due to my own betting needs but judging by the positive responses by tons of posters it's clear that the majority who do use them are very happy.
It's tough to do since I told them they would have to pay back the deposit that they confiscated in order to get into the "B"s. The amount isn't even that much. DirectBet did it as some type of punishment. |
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Howdy all, I do a lot of sports book gambling and have only used 2 sites. One of them being Nitrogen Sports and the other betcoin.ag. I have been using Betcoin.ag sports side for several months now and I really don't have any complaints to make. Once I noticed that even though a bet had been graded as a winner, I had not been paid out. I contacted support and they remedied it within the hour.
I consistently deposit and withdraw anywhere from 5-15 btc per day and generally speaking the deposits clear within 15 minutes. Sometimes if the bitcoin network is slow confirming it will take 30 minutes to an hour. For withdrawls I have had it take anywhere from 1 hour to 8 hours, the average being somewhere in between, lets say 4.
I actually just started using nitrogen this week because the limits on betcoin are smaller than I would like. Deposits are instant and withdraws are extremely timely, say several minutes until I see the confirmation popping up in my hot wallet. However, I will say that their odds are always 2-4% lower than betcoins, and I do not see any sort of reward loyalty program which I really like about betcoin.
Basically if betcoin would process my withdraws and deposits faster I would be 100% content with them (other than the slightly low maximum bets they take)
I have read a lot about the allegations about betcoin, and they may be true as far as poker goes I don't know but I think that generally speaking their sports book is run very well.
Cheers,
Botfather aka. CardCounter
Nice review. Thanks |
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I absolutely love sports betting on basketball games live (US and European basketball). It is my gambling addiction you could say.
I love bitcoin but am scared to do it in this type of way because of the volume I bet. I usually use Bet365 or Betsafe or William Hill or Unibet.
My question is how many legit live sports betting bitcoin sites have been up for a while and will let me bet 100-1000 Euro in bitcoin equivalent per line?
How fast do they change their lines and how fast do they settle the bets and pay it out or accept new bitcoin?
I remember Bitcoinlivebets (or someone similar) going bust years back and I lost a lot of bitcoin there and have been scared since...
Nitrogen and Betcoinsports. They both grade right after the game is final. Nitrogen will pay you instantly upon request. Betcoinsports pays fast too but poker players can take a little longer.  |
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Anonibet lowered for "C+" to "C-". Some mid 4 figure payouts are taking 2 days or more. Everyone has been paid but there have been delays.
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lunarbets.eu added to the guide as NR. They are a parimutuel betting site.
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Has anyone taken recent withdrawals from Anonibet? I'm still looking in to confirming the quote below. Anonibet advertises 1-2 hours for payouts.
Since opening my account, I have requested 5 payouts. The fastest one took about 48 hours, most over 72. I am currently waiting 80 hours + on my current payout.
Is this everyone else's experience as well? |
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Cloudbet, I cannot withdraw my bitcoin.
how long has it been so far? |
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Hi,
In my opinion the exception given for "instant withdraws" to Betcoin is too generous.
I realize the potential fraud that peer to peer poker exposes them to, but it's gotten to the point that they are using it as an excuse to process players withdraws at their leisure.
There's no reason Betcoin can't consider cashouts made by non poker players seperately. It should only take a minute to check and see if a player has played any poker or transfered funds to another player.
Nitrogen also offers poker, although less focused on it, and their withdraws are nearly always truly instant.
Less than a year ago, at Betcoin I was comfortable requesting an expedited withdraw by live chat and could expect the withdraw to be complete in 30-60 minutes. That was great. Now I always hesitate to even ask, as I worry the next time I may consider the withdraw even more urgent but because I have annoyed them already so recently, they may toss me lower in the pile. I would say I average just under 2 withdraws a week since I prefer to keep my balance as low as possible.
There is a 6-10 hour window every day during which only a skeleton staff is working, around 1 or 2 am untill 9 or 10 am. Any cashout requested during this time are left untill managers return. The same is true for almost any sunday. Thet simply dont have anyone processing withdraws, you have to wait until someone comes into work monday morning (which is never a set time)
Also, their bet grading has slipped over the last 6 months or so. It was at it's worst during the first half of the NFL. Many times my bets fomr the 1pm game were graded as late as the second half of the 4pm game. One could never hope to use winnings from a 1pm game to bet a 4pm game.
Theyve improved a bit, but still far too often a bet will remain ungraded for hours and support is no help.
I wish I'd found this thread sooner, as I've always just used Betcoin and Nitrogen.(no issues with nitrogen)
I've never really been a fan of Jetwin, but it's just personal preference I think on how it's laid out.
I've never even heard of BetBTC and overlooked BitcoinRush but will definitely be checking these out soon as well as others and report back if any issues.
(March is my christmas with NCAA and all)
With the way Betcoin has been behaving on the poker related side, and things in general on all fronts getting worse not better, Its time to say good bye for good to Betcoin I think. I should of done it sooner, but you know how it is when you get used to a certain casino.
This is solid work though all around, thank you Peeps, from a gambler
Thanks cryptosmoker. I'll contact Betcoin to see what they say. They will say very nice things about themself I am sure  These books have been very good in giving responses from questions that I've asked. You would be surprised at how honest and the amount of information that they have disclosed. This is especially true for the books at the top. They aren't getting to the top without it. |
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Hi,
In my opinion the exception given for "instant withdraws" to Betcoin is too generous.
I realize the potential fraud that peer to peer poker exposes them to, but it's gotten to the point that they are using it as an excuse to process players withdraws at their leisure.
There's no reason Betcoin can't consider cashouts made by non poker players seperately. It should only take a minute to check and see if a player has played any poker or transfered funds to another player.
Nitrogen also offers poker, although less focused on it, and their withdraws are nearly always truly instant.
Less than a year ago, at Betcoin I was comfortable requesting an expedited withdraw by live chat and could expect the withdraw to be complete in 30-60 minutes. That was great. Now I always hesitate to even ask, as I worry the next time I may consider the withdraw even more urgent but because I have annoyed them already so recently, they may toss me lower in the pile. I would say I average just under 2 withdraws a week since I prefer to keep my balance as low as possible.
There is a 6-10 hour window every day during which only a skeleton staff is working, around 1 or 2 am untill 9 or 10 am. Any cashout requested during this time are left untill managers return. The same is true for almost any sunday. Thet simply dont have anyone processing withdraws, you have to wait until someone comes into work monday morning (which is never a set time)
Also, their bet grading has slipped over the last 6 months or so. It was at it's worst during the first half of the NFL. Many times my bets fomr the 1pm game were graded as late as the second half of the 4pm game. One could never hope to use winnings from a 1pm game to bet a 4pm game.
Theyve improved a bit, but still far too often a bet will remain ungraded for hours and support is no help.
I wish I'd found this thread sooner, as I've always just used Betcoin and Nitrogen.(no issues with nitrogen)
I've never really been a fan of Jetwin, but it's just personal preference I think on how it's laid out.
I've never even heard of BetBTC and overlooked BitcoinRush but will definitely be checking these out soon as well as others and report back if any issues.
(March is my christmas with NCAA and all)
With the way Betcoin has been behaving on the poker related side, and things in general on all fronts getting worse not better, Its time to say good bye for good to Betcoin I think. I should of done it sooner, but you know how it is when you get used to a certain casino.
This is solid work though all around, thank you Peeps, from a gambler
Thanks cryptosmoker. I'll contact Betcoin to see what they say. Your detailed post is appreciated. We need more of this on the books. Gogo is a poster that has been very helpful in pointing out recent activity of books and we need as much as possible. |
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"A" rated books
NitrogenSports A+ (2012)
"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Bitcoinrush B (2013)
"C" rated books
Anonibet C+ (2011)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
DirectBet C+ (2014)
Betbtc C (2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)
"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))
"F" rated books
Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F
NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betmbtc.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
BTCBook
Coin178.com
coinbet24.com
Flutterclub.com
lvaction.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io
* longer accepting cash deposits
Maximum grade based upon time in business:
A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players
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I tried using vitalbet deposited took 2-3 conf before it went it and after betting i tried withdrawing yesterday when i woke up after 8hrs it got rejected and now i requested another withdrawal will update this post about the status.
update : I received an email from support saying before you could withdraw you need to do 2x rollover of the amount you deposit didnt saw any notice about this one beware guys.
Was there a bonus involved? If not, there is no excuse for a book to demand any rollover for a btc withdrawal. Peeps - This should be flagged as an "F" Do Not Use book if there was no bonus involved. Wow. That definitely should be written in the rules. Give me a little time to look a little deeper. VitalBet isn't going to be part of the rating's guide since they are a fiat book that accepts bitcoins. That said, it's nice for the warning for us to see. |
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I read every book's thread and all books have complaints. Players with a complaint are much more likely to post than those with praise.
We haven't found any complaint about BetBTC since 2014. Please point us something. Thanks BetBTC - You added a lot since the last upgrade. For the NBA you now have spreads, money lines, totals as well as first halves. Everything looks great. I hate to say anything negative about you because there are so many positives. You still need more liquidity to get into the "B"s. Upgrades go one step at a time. BetBTC upgraded from "C-" to "C" |
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Is any btc book offering Nascar?
I don't see anything up now but I think Betcoinsports offers Nascar. |
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Very interesting and very good. Here we can see the sites that move in the sports match and we can see which sites the better and most preferred by the gamblers. And this is very helpful for me and all of us who want to look for the best and trusted site. But I see this thread is no longer functioning, and because of what this thread is not running again ..??
Why do you say this thread isn't running? |
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It's time to cash out of Cloudbet for anyone who hasn't done so yet.
It seems pointless to bet there. Bets aren't being graded, withdrawals aren't being made, cs always terrible and almost non-existent is now totally non-existent.
Turning out the lights soon?
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Quote from: Heloumajd on Today at 07:37:10 AM
Before 12 hours I won.. And It still showing me PENDING! I contacted you, you told me that sportbooks team will contact you shortly... But NOTHING happened!!! I resent another tons of emails and also nothing happened..... I'm waiting for you like idiot, and you dont respect that!
It's really not nice!!
I'm still waiting to get my win in order to bet on new games. The games have started and I'm still waitinggg!
Dissatissfied from this support!!!"
"You have luck, at least is pending, my bet was granted as win but balance has not changed...
May be is a new tweak!! Who knows ?? Cloudbet has changed nowadays ..."
Every weekend Cloudbet has problems. Cloudbet has stated numerous times that they added extra help to man the weekends but that doesn't seem to be the case. Anyone have opinions on the new odds provider that Cloudbet is using? |
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