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1861  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Withdraw from pool directly into Exchange? on: November 29, 2013, 11:49:29 AM
Thank you for your response. BTC-e does mention that an address can be used multiple times but they also state, that they do not accept "generated" transactions.

So it should be saver to withdraw "locally" and from there to an exchange.

BTW.: What happens, when a transaction is not accepted .. ? Is that possible or is this just a return-transaction then.
When they say "generated," they're referring to coins produced as a direct result of mining (like from p2pool). Some other pools work like that, too, where the coins generated from mining go directly to the address you have set as the payout address (Eligius?). I don't think most do it that way (they instead have a community wallet where generated coins, and then when you withdraw, you're withdrawing from that community pool), but I've been out of the loop for too long to answer you with much confidence. If your pool credits your account instead of paying directly to an address every time the pool finds a block, the "generated transaction" exception probably doesn't apply to you and you'll be fine.

If a transaction isn't accepted, BTC-e would probably keep the funds until you pester customer service to get the coins credited to your account. (I think this is how it works with Gox)
1862  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Withdraw from pool directly into Exchange? on: November 29, 2013, 11:20:19 AM
IF (and this is a big if) your exchange has only one static receiving address for you, then yes. You should check with their FAQ or ask their customer support.

If you're not looking to set up autopay from your pool (where it pays out for every x BTC mined), then yeah, no problem. Just click the deposit button on your exchange, have your pool send to that address, and you should be all set. (if the exchange does uses "dynamic addresses" [not one static receiving address for all eternity], then you should be sure you don't send any more BTC to that exchange address, since one of the transactions may not be counted by the exchange)
1863  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: November 29, 2013, 11:13:53 AM
Marco, "our" episode is yet to be added to the proofreading list, so I think it'll be a few days till we're paid. Smiley
Thanks for pointing that out. I actually completely missed it.
1864  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The world will not use BTC. on: November 29, 2013, 10:06:37 AM
I can't find anything supporting your claim about the Chinese government banning vendors from using BTC, so you'll have to provide a link. Regarding VC laws - their previous ruling on them was targeted toward a centralized VC which was undermining the Yuan (the Chinese gov't recognized the ban would be effective because they could pressure the issuer, which immediately caved). Bitcoin, a global currency, has a much more dire consequence for the USD than the Yuan, which is probably why the Chinese gov't hasn't done much about Bitcoin (bitcoins still trade at a large premium on Chinese markets, so I guess nobody told them about the ban either). Additionally, it's pretty odd that CCTV, which is obviously closely-watched by government officials, will openly talk about Bitcoin if the Chinese gov't has a hostile attitude toward BTC.

On Internet fragmentation - this is plausible, though there's really no reason to cut off trade of data (the real benefit here is to ditch ICANN, which doesn't require simply disconnecting all other "Internets"). It's also very possible for any country to form their own Bitcoin offshoot. There is no reason North Korea, for example, cannot have NKcoin. Maybe this is no good for the price of bitcoins, but it doesn't impede the move toward virtual currencies at all, and bitcoin may remain as a reserve currency whether the country suffers extreme oppression or not.
1865  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will China go to war with Japan? on: November 29, 2013, 09:51:59 AM
I've taken the liberty of correcting the order the OP article authors put the sentences in.

"China unilaterally announced the creation of a [sic] "Air Defense Identification Zone" over several islands it and Japan have both claimed. The two countries have been sharply at odds over those isles, which are believed to be near large reserves of natural resources.

Washington responded negatively to what Secretary of State John Kerry characterized as an "escalatory action (that) will only increase tensions in the region and create risks of an incident."

Two U.S. military aircraft flew into China's newly claimed and challenged air defense zone over the East China Sea, a U.S. official said, an action that could inflame tensions between the world powers."
1866  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Satoshi Jesus? on: November 29, 2013, 09:36:13 AM
How can we be so sure that-
1) Satoshi is not a scammer
2) All this Bitcoin mania is not a big TRAP ?
3) He doesn't work for some FBI/CIA etc.

As we see in all scams, the first phase is profitable and you know what happens in the next phase.
Just saying.
There's not really potential for him to scam. He can dump his coins on the market, but he could do that whether or not he was scamming, and really, it'd be a good thing (aside from the perfect buying opportunity) if that uncertainty were removed.
1867  Other / Meta / Re: "Most Online" metric no longer updates on: November 29, 2013, 09:05:15 AM
Okay. This will become the Official "Most Online" Thread, then, and theymos can pay us a fraction of what he was paying before.  Cool

Post when previous highest count is broken.

I'll start. 6060.
1868  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is Satoshi Jesus? on: November 29, 2013, 08:52:39 AM
I actually think Satoshi is a time-traveler.
Huh. You know, that's actually pretty reasonable. I guess Bitcoin is supposed to eventually disrupt the NATO hegemony which had turned the future into some type of dystopia. The Chinese are starting to really go nuts over BTC.... That actually makes perfect sense.
1869  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling Miracle Fruit Tablets (Acid for your tongue!) on: November 29, 2013, 08:34:38 AM
I used to use stuff like this when I lived with my dad and step-mom, and butter-soaked/microwaved canned vegetables and insanely dry meat with god-knows-what slathered on it were on the docket. I can attest to their great effectiveness in situations where you have to eat the food before you're allowed to leave the table (though it doesn't quite solve the texture issue). No more trips to the bathroom with your mouth stuffed full of food to spit out in the toilet. Smiley

(ugh... that brought up memories I'd locked away)
1870  Economy / Goods / Re: [WTS] Honey Caramels on: November 29, 2013, 08:00:05 AM
Cheesy I guess if you play with them after they've been in your mouth...?

Errr - or, I guess this thread should be more appetizing. I'll go ahead and get some Christmas presents from you. Smiley
1871  Other / Off-topic / Re: what are you grateful for? on: November 29, 2013, 06:56:40 AM
Cows, deer, chickpeas, potatoes, coffee, coffee, coffee, coffee.
1872  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are/did you guys get for Black Friday? on: November 29, 2013, 05:40:13 AM
Got a stand mixer ~2 weeks ago for wife (this was for Christmas, but the idea of withholding something useful until a specific date is dumb as Hell). I've been using it every day since (cutty-shreddy attachment is awesome for quick hashbrowns), and I think she's used it once. For her birthday, after being hassled, bought her a pasta maker to one which got lost in the move last year. Still in the box.  Roll Eyes

Oh, well. The real annoyance is in finding gifts for immediate family I see maybe once every two months. They ask me what I want, I'll say something like a new mail-box post, and they think I'm being a sarcastic snot, so I get a gift card (in the absolute worst of cases, someone gets me a gift card to Best Buy because "he likes computers"). I ask them what they want, they say "I don't need anything," and then I end up getting them a gift card, but because they're married and I only got one, the other one ends up crying because I don't "love" him/her enough to get two separate cards. "Okay, so each of you puts one equal-value thing in the shopping cart which adds up to the GC total and quit bothering me." Fucking hate the holidays. Dumbest expenditures on Earth, where everyone wants to spend an equal amount on each other and ends up getting everyone something they wouldn't have purchased for themselves, because if they wanted it, they'd already have the damned thing.  Angry

ETA: Wait, wait, wait -- not done, yet. Another thing I can't stand is how you can't purchase consumables (I've tried), like holiday gifts are supposed to be some immortal testament to your idiocy. I'd be made so much more happy by a $30 purchase of a small wheel of cheese and some hunters' sticks than a freakin' $100 gift card to some overpriced specialty store a couple towns over. But no - Christmas is "special." You eat food - that can't be special. Let's completely fucking ignore that food literally becomes a part of you. $90 HDMI cable from a jackass electronics outlet to tuck away behind a television - now that's "special."

#FirstWorldProblems
1873  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What guarantees that no two address are ever the same ? on: November 29, 2013, 03:57:12 AM
note: DSV refers to the program grue mentioned above. For whatever reason, DSV is castrated by the developer (it only searches for addresses beginning with 1DSV). This assumes there is a non-castrated, optimized DSV which may include botnets or NSA super computers (really, super-duper theoretical computers from the land of Oz).
Assuming 500K addresses which either have funds or will have funds within next three months,
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000034211388289180104270598866779539% chance per check (or address creation).

Assuming average computer can do 250 optimized DSV-like checks per second,
0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000085528470722950260676497166948848% chance per second.

Assuming a "theft pool" is formed, and 500 of these computers averaging the above click/s,
0.00000000000000000000000000000000000042764235361475130338248583474424% chance per second.

Assuming each theft pool is one botnet, and 20 botnets, exactly the same, exist in these theft pools,
0.0000000000000000000000000000000000085528470722950260676497166948848% chance per second.

Per minute,
0.00000000000000000000000000000000051317082433770156405898300169309%

Per hour,
0.000000000000000000000000000000030790249460262093843538980101585%

Per day,
0.00000000000000000000000000000073896598704629025224493552243804%

Per month (30D),
0.000000000000000000000000000022168979611388707567348065673141%

Per year,
0.00000000000000000000000000026972258527189594206940146568988%


Assume worst-case scenario, DSV-like software can check 5000 addresses (10M of which are funded or will be funded within 6 months) per second, and 100 botnets of 50,000 computers each...
Per day,
0.000000000000000000000000014779319740925805044898710448761%

Per month,
0.00000000000000000000000044337959222777415134696131346283%

Per year,
0.0000000000000000000000053944517054379188413880293137978%

Per century,
0.00000000000000000000053944517054379188413880293137978%


ETA: Worse-than-worst case scenario. NSA can check 1T addresses per second, 1T addresses are funded.
Per century,
0.0000000000000021577806821751675365552117255191%

Per billion centuries,
0.0000021577806821751675365552117255191%
1874  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin hits Tom Toles (funny cartoon) on: November 29, 2013, 03:49:44 AM
How do you mint a trillion-dollar bitcoin?  Huh
1875  Other / Meta / "Most Online," now manually recorded! Post and win theoreticoins! on: November 29, 2013, 03:46:15 AM
Current "Most Online" record: 7260 (Nov. 29, 2013)
Record-reporter: malevolent

Post at a time when the number of users listed at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats
("Users Online") exceeds that number. If your claim is found accurate, you will receive one theoreticoin, the hottest speculative abstract since Abstract Coin.


Theoreticoin balances:
SaltySpitoon - 1
jimmijames73 - 1
Kluge - 2
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malevolent - 2
1876  Other / Meta / Re: The light blue is horrible theymos on: November 29, 2013, 03:42:29 AM
Just the acid, bro. You should be outside, though. There's not much rhythm in your house.
1877  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Isn't bitcoin too SLOW to be called "instantaneous"? on: November 29, 2013, 03:26:58 AM
There are Bitcoin ATMs...how do they work to provide instant cash?
They quickly check the blockchain to ensure it isn't a "normal" double-spend and have your ID, so even if there is a problem (and really, the chance of fraud these days with the quick blockchain check is insignificant unless the ATMs accept 50+ $5,000 bills in a single transaction), they know who to sue.
1878  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Assistance required regarding overheating computer and wallet syncing on: November 29, 2013, 03:23:06 AM
If the shutdowns aren't a direct result of heat, it could be a RAM module or hard drive failure (both of these are cheap & easy fixes, though), especially if the components are regularly running hot.

So long as you have the wallet file on the hard drive (and I wouldn't trust that hard drive until the problem's figured out) and it's created the priv-pub key to give you an address to receive at, there's no risk in sending coins to those addresses.
1879  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [BOUNTY] 0.15 BTC per transcript of LetsTalkBitcoin on: November 29, 2013, 02:13:33 AM
Hey, guys. Yet another rule.

When Adam starts, he likes to do a rapid-fire list of what's coming up on the program. I've tried manipulating it (and I know transcribers have, too) so it's readable while still keeping with his tone and style, but I just don't think that's possible. Since our first priority should be maximizing readability, when Adam's "checklisting" the segments coming up in the episode, please list them like this:
Code:
ABL: Coming up on today’s episode of Let’s Talk Bitcoin:
*Project Talk - got a charity? Have some bitcoins.
*terk.co's free Wordpress tip jar plugin.
*Bitcoin Press Center, with up to 22 languages.
*Interview with Charles Hoskinson, founder of the Bitcoin Education Project, as they roll out their new effort.
*Bitcoin neutrality - looking ahead to not trap innovation with the limitations we have now.
*Open transactions and Bitmessage - I interview Chris, better known as fellowtravler, on the intricacies of this new system.
*Micro-transactions vs. Bitdust - throwing the baby out with the bath water.
*My wide ranging interview with Mark Hochstein, editor of American Banker, and Bailey Reutzel of PaymentsSource, during which we cover Bitcoin’s compatibility with existing financial system, the journey of journalism, and how everything old really is new again.

Hi, and welcome to Let’s Talk Bitcoin, a twice-weekly show...

You have permission to paraphrase here.
1880  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Name something you've actually BOUGHT with bitcoin on: November 28, 2013, 01:27:32 AM
*All large appliances in kitchen
*Honey caramels (as mentioned above), along with some granola and other things
*New laptop
*Really awesome coffee
*A few games off Steam
*Cigarettes
*Bitcoin Magazine subscription
*VPS service
*Remote FTP service
*Coding service
*Everything I can't think of off the top of my head
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