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1881  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as salary for a regular job? on: October 04, 2017, 06:32:35 AM
I would not accept Bitcoin as my salary for different reasons. First of all: the price can anytime go down even with 1000$ like it happened with China banning ICO's( the price went down 1500$ in 2-3 days). The second reson is the fees for exchanging it to fiat. It would take at least a 10% fee only on exchangers plus taxes to government

You got your reasons, but bitcoin price is 4.300$ and rising, that 1.500$ drop didn't last for long.. Risk is if you have family and just one source of income, less risk is if you have some saving in bank and plus you earn bitcoins, then when you are in need you can use that saved money and keep bitcoins until price rise.
If there is option for receiving salary in bitcoins I would use it, that depends a lot from country you live in. I have more trust in bitcoin then in my currency, if situation in my country is better I probably wouldn't think about it, but now I need to risk if I wish to have more, if not I'm on a edge.
1882  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin rise is over on: October 03, 2017, 09:27:41 PM
Market cap is at $71B and it will just grow bigger. I don`t think that rise is over, until the end of the year price will be 5.000$ again, slowly and with a lot of fluctuations we will be there in next 90 days. Price rise if far from over, bitcoin can settle on some price and stay there that doesn`t need to mean something special.
In the end what if price go back to 3.000$ again, that will be second chance for those who didn`t buy bitcoins with a discount in the first time. Honestly I don`t believe in another drop on 3.000$, with bitcoins anything can happen we all know that, just my feeling and experience tells me that we will not see that drop.
1883  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stealing Bitcoins from online wallets with 2FA on: October 03, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
I use 2FA, on couple places SMS verification. I think I'm protected, until now I didn't have any problems on internet, I'm careful as I can be but I think that we are vulnerable if we become targets of some genius hackers. Luckily they have good paying jobs, or with knowledge they have I doubt they will attack us little people for couple dollars. That's why it's not good to go around and talk how you have a lot of bitcoins, or that you are very rich. Don't draw attention to yourself and there will not be any problems with hackers that wish to steal from you.
1884  Economy / Economics / Re: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE A NASTY DIVORCE AND A FAT BTC WALLET? on: October 03, 2017, 05:59:55 AM
the same thing happens as when you have a nasty divorce and a fat pocket with a lot of money in it. if the ex finds out about it and can prove it, they take a part of it (of course depending on what country you live in and how the laws are there) and if they can't find out about it or prove it they can take nothing.

Depends from what kind of wallet do you have, and did you use bitcoin mixer before you send them to final destination. If you have for example electrum wallet and after you bought bitcoins on coinbase, bitstamp or where ever, and you run that bitcoins trough bitcoin mixer and final destination will be anonymous, your wife can't do nothing about it, here lawyers can't do nothing about that.
In case you use some wallet where you have left your ID, your documents then your bitcoins will be found easily and half goes to your wife.
I have nothing against girls, but she will go to fuck with another moron and why I need to pay for that. She work she have her money and I don't wish to be their sponsor and pay alimony while they enjoy.
1885  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Dividing your salary. on: October 02, 2017, 02:15:20 PM
OP wish to speak about percents, 10% from his salary, from mine, and for example from some Norwegian guy are 3 different amounts of money. 10 percents from my salary is 20-30$ if you can believe in that. I earn more money on bitcoin then with my regular salary. One more important things is that before I couldn't save, all my salary is not enough for decent life. I worked couple jobs in same moment to have enough, with bitcoins I now I have two jobs and I finally have some extra money for saving, and I save in crypto currencies, not just bitcoins I think some altcoins will have bright future too.
Invest how much you can, forget about percents, buy bitcoins and some other altcoins when ever you can. I started with bitcoins long time ago and I didn't invest nothing, with gambling, trading I managed to cash out when I needed money, to gamble and trade and from this year I started to save. Good luck and believe in bitcoin.
1886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dubai Will Issue First Ever State Cryptocurrency on: October 02, 2017, 08:15:48 AM
OMG. Great news indeed. I'm in game 100%!
BTW today I've heard the statistics that only at 2017 tourism brought to the budget more than $20B. And it was poor desert country just at 20th century!

They are rich and they can invest a lot of money in this project. $20B just from tourism and where is oil, other businesses. Poor desert, they were that and in last 20-30 years they have the tallest building in the world, their town is growing with incredible speed. The town of the future, they saw potential of crypto currencies and they are getting in with their own altcoin that is great.
This project will be first of its kind, and we should pay attention on this, they already have some agreement made and looks like they are entering 100% in the crypto. They will likely be the worlds first in deploying fully functional governmental Blockchain services. Will they give everyone to participate and buy this altcoin, or they will make some rules that just their citizens can buy it?
1887  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is there nowhere to play NL Holdem tournaments anymore regularly? on: October 01, 2017, 07:18:18 PM
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And you say betcoin.ag is dead, that is funny. Try to find another casino that have better paid tournaments. I play at betcoin.ag since I`m here, and tonight is one of the best tournaments 50 GTD thank you free roll, the best cause there is no re-buys, no add-ons, you play poker with chips you have and you really need to be good to win this tournament.
Tournament starts in one hour, you can get ticket on couple ways, first ticket comes with registration I think and later you need to be active on their site to get more tickets for this tournament. Good luck and see you on the poker table, my username there is Underworld, and if you don`t have account there you can pm me and be my ref. if you wish, and I can explain you more about what ever you wish to know about betcoin.ag.
1888  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: October 01, 2017, 01:44:19 PM
At least banks still generates an income to our deposited money, from saving or current accounts. If you want a bigger income then you should also increase your deposits, as simple as that. Banking is the safest way to store our money because it is protected and they can't run us, there are laws requlated by the government.
Yes we are earning money from our deposits in the bank but as you can see in your gains from your savings or deposits you can see that the income is very low and that is not worth it since the interest or the profit is so low and that will cause to your money to get eaten by the inflation rate which is more than the interest that you will be getting in your bank account savings.

Law made by governments protect banks and their board of directors. If banks screw you for your money, government or some other insurance company will give you back your money but no one will be punished for that incident, that happened in all the countries with at least one bank, in my country several banks announced bankruptcy and people lost their money and they waited for years to take their money back.
They are also earning from your deposits, your transactions and that is fine by me, but where all that money is going? We should never trust banks, they are supporting current system, they support wars and companies that earn from wars. They are directly connected with many bad things in this world, and that's why we should stop using then and have trust in them.
1889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NEW BOUNTY THREAD]◄ ♛ ♛ SMOKE EXCHANGE BOUNTY THREAD ♛ ♛ ► [NEWWW] on: September 30, 2017, 03:55:15 PM
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1890  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: September 27, 2017, 08:52:19 AM
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I was thinking that Benfica can win Basel, Switzerland team is strong at home and they will not give up easily. Nice odds thou, 2.3 sounds like a good bet on Benfica and I will consider to bet on them tonight. I`m thinking that Juve can make one more surprise and win 7 : 0 again like 10 years ago, last game was 3 : 2  or maybe to risk with 5 or more goals, nice odds in any case.
Anderlecht vs Celtic is interesting game for me, last game Anderlecht lost against Bayern and I think they try to win tonight and stay in the race for next stage, this is the only game where they can win cause against Bayern and Paris Saint Germain they don`t have a chance, so they will focus on this game to have at least one win at home. That will be the most interesting game tonight PSG against Bayern, game will be interesting and who knows who will win, if I make any bets on this game that will be goals on both side.
1891  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Loan Services on: September 27, 2017, 05:08:52 AM
Are there any Bitcoin Loan services out there at are actually worth borrowing from?

loan are good ideas for me like in local currency you can loan money, but have a problem for you request about bitcoin loan because bitcoin are really can't control the movement sometimes goes falling dump, sometimes faster up, example you can loan of btc in lower price but you need to pay at the time btc are in higher rate price do you imagine what i mean.

You mean that he can borrow 1 btc and in that moment price can be 3.500$, if he spent that bitcoin and after, let's say a month, he need to return the loan and what if price rise to 5.000$? Now debt is 1.500$ higher and you need to give back much more then you loaned in first place, that's why its not good idea to ask for loan in bitcoins. But fast loans where you can earn more money in fast time are worth rmthe risk maybe, that decision is on people who loan money.
Except btcjam, lending section here, I think poloniex also have lending service, I didn't try any of this things, but I take a look on landing section to laugh sometimes how people wish to borrow bitcoins with new accounts and without any collateral.
1892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What the games you play as you earn? on: September 26, 2017, 08:02:13 AM
I can not name any gambling site on which it is possible to always receive a win as it depends only on luck. Now you can use any crypto currency for the game, but do not spend all coins on entertainment.

Casino where you always win doesn`t exist, and win doesn`t depends only on luck, how much you can win is determined by your bet. You can spin slots on minimal bet, and you profit if you hit some bonus will be equivalent to your minimal bet. But if you are brave and you know how to control your bankroll from time to time you will rise your bets and hope that you can hit some bonus on that higher bet, then your profit will be much higher.
In poker you skills are more expressed, you need to make many decisions when to pay and when to fold. When you have good cards you need to think off the best way to take more money from player/s you play against.
I know what is luck in gambling, I felt it many times, but to win high you need to make some decisions cause your profit depends from that and plus luck, just with luck you will be average player, always in some small profit.
1893  Economy / Speculation / Re: What price you expect bitcoin by 30 September? on: September 25, 2017, 01:09:50 PM
I was expecting to see $4k by the end of this month even though I assumed that was not possible because the bitcoin price increase trend still could not be consistent this month.
we need to have more support before we can see that the value will be again rise up to its new ath, but seemingly that you are correct we need to wait
till we will see more positive news regarding to bitcoin, 4k maybe are still possible if there's some turned around this week.

It would be nice to see 4.000$ before next month but looks like price will stay where it is now. That is good, price made big increase from beginning of this year until couple month's ago and maybe it will good to be here for a while. Price is holding around 3.500$ and after few weeks we can officially say that this is new bottom. Price will grow but we need to give it some time, China and bad news slowed bitcoin rise but price will recover and go back to 5.000$ in next couple months and in very optimistic about that.
1894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will rise up or fall down? on: September 25, 2017, 10:59:33 AM
What do you think? China banned BTC? And btc price goes to 4,069$ today Smiley
You think to sell or it can rise up again, some rumors said that btc will fall down to 2000$
I think it wont going to happen that bitcoin will go back to $2000. Bitcoin price right now is in good condition. There are times that it increases and there are times that it decreases but thats normal I think. I hope that bitcoin price will continue to rise up this year even there is some issue about what you have said.
Very well said! I am the firm believer of this thing that Bitcoin process will increase tremendously in the coming days and will keep on increasing in the future as well. Even if the market price of Bitcoin gets low, it will not go too low as compared to the way it will rise up. The future of the one’s holding Bitcoin is very much bright.

Like you I'm also a believer, future of bitcoin is bright. Price already rises a lot in this year and I don't know why people expect to rise more so fast. I understand that everyone wish to make some profit here but sometimes you need to be real and have normal wishes.
Bitcoin price will rise and fall down many more times, price is still very vulnerable on bad news and speculations, someone is manipulating with price, but when bitcoin become very strong that will stop I think and it will not be easy to do that one day.
After drop price is holding pretty good in this level now, I think now we will see rise and before the end of the new year I think price will recover and get back on 5.000$ at lest.
1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: September 25, 2017, 05:31:37 AM
Like many others here I also gamble with bitcoins, I earn bitcoins from campaign then I trade or gamble with bitcoins it would be a little trouble to gamble with some altcoin cause I don't earn them, I need to buy them in some exchanger and then send it to casino whybto do that when I can gamble with bitcoins directly.
I would like to try to gamble with litecoins and ethereum. If I ever decide to gamble with altcoins this will be my first two choices and I would like to earn them somehow and gamble with them, but if that don't happen ibwill buy them and then gamble.
1896  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 10 dollars into a million on: September 23, 2017, 05:03:34 PM
This is like joke post or what? This is not like lottery 100% get rich scheme, it has it owns riks. If anyone would know this answer there wouldnt be point playing this game right? I do not this posts they underestimate cryptocommunity

Its not a joke, this already happened and I think that OP saw somewhere how people who bought bitcoin for 10$ 7 years ago are now multimillionaires. Now he wish to do something similar, he wish to buy some new coin from all this new coins that coming out everyday and to wait a little and pick up couple million prize for his effort.
ETH was one of my missed opportunities, I saw ETH here when it was couple cents worth now it worth couple hundred dollars. There will be similar alt-coins that will make big rise in the future, but nobody can tell you which
coin and when will that happen, maybe in 5 or 10 years. Blockchain can be used for many things, new coins with some innovations are offering something to do world will that be accepted in the future like bitcoin is now is hard to tell. Support the projects and new alt-coins with your investment and maybe you will be one of the lucky ones.
1897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Amazon to accept Bitcoin as early as this October? on: September 23, 2017, 12:02:30 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1096611.0 And there are older topics about this matter. Like in second comment from OP

This could bring another revolution in the cryptocurrency market. Till now no official statement has been issued that will Amazon introduce new mode of payment i.e. Bitcoin in their system. But as for now nearly 5,381 petitioners have  signed the campaign in demand of introduction of bitcoin in the system so Amazon might think upon it. Also, Amazon was one of the early e-commerce trading companies and many new e-commerce companies follow its foot-step if they legalize Bitcoin then many other e-commerce companies and other companies may also start accepting the bitcoins. Hence making it as a new revolution.
Let's wait till October 26th and find out.

We need to wait and find out! Amazon is very big company and if they start to accept bitcoins that will make bitcoin more popular and trusted. I will not believe in this until it happens, I`m sure that one day they will start to accept bitcoins as payment method but when will that happen depends from them. Will they accept bitcoin directly or they will use service like bitpay is also important.
26 October is a month from now, that is not far away and soon we will know is this true or not. I`m sure that this can reflect on price and maybe bitcoin can really go to 10.000$ by the end of the year like some people predicted. I don`t see what else can make the price grow so much in just few months except this, I`m not sure that even this can enough for such price rise.
1898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are the Big Gambling sites paying taxes? on: September 22, 2017, 07:43:57 PM
I do not think so, maybe the site holder can hide his status. Gambling sites are not like real casinos that are clearly visible to our eyes. Gambling sites seem more privacy. I do not really know but it looks like gambling sites do not pay taxes. They benefit for themselves. Or maybe gambling sites pay taxes if the country legalize gambling.
It happens. Gambling sites are mostly not registered as gambling sites under their own country law. They hide their status and things are just for fun so government don’t take such notice of it. People came, play online, and have fun and they are gone so profit is with owners and story ends.

Its not like that, every site has to be registered somewhere, depends from country where its registered they need to work under their laws. Regulations and taxes are not the same in every country, some countries forbid gambling of any kind, some have very high taxes for gambling, but there is always some island paradise that offers very low taxes and not so strict laws. Its not just with casinos, you can look for many corporations and companies that are registered in some of this paradise countries.
1899  Economy / Economics / Re: South Africa's Super market started accepting bitcoin on: September 22, 2017, 07:53:28 AM
I would also like to see some links for this, South Africa is big country and how can super market start to accept bitcoins if government didn't legalize bitcoin? There is laws and regulations, I think that this decision about bitcoin acceptance is not supermarket and their CEOs. I would like bitcoin to be present everywhere, but we can't rush with some things and after many news here on forum I'm looking for more proofs.
One more thing is bothering me, South Africa wasn't so active in past few years on bitcoin stage, I mean nothing special from them or I'm missing something here. Just one more country like many others, bitcoin didn't have some spacial treatment there as I know.
1900  Economy / Economics / Re: So, you want to be rich? All of you ? on: September 21, 2017, 12:39:17 PM
We wish to be rich cause we think that we can buy everything we need with money, but that is wrong. You can't buy health, or happiness, uoi can't buy peace with money. System needs to work and that's why kids go to schools, later in college if they are smart, prisons are full with people who wished to be rich in another way, can you see what connects them? Being rich is just a way for us to buy things we wish to have, paying for other things that we wish to do, or to try.
We wish to be rich cause we don't know any other way to get to the things we wish. We are afraid to ask girl to go out cause we don't have enough for dinner and good wine. Deep inside I think that we can have all the good things in the world without money.
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