also if you are a huge investor I say hire a professional to find these guys before is to late. Im serious, they could be buying time to do whatever what they are about to do. well I hope im wrong for my sake, but it dont look good if op doesnt give daily updates to what he is really doing, shouldnt take more then 5 days to respond to an issue like this.
They should definitely give an update every two days even if there is nothing new to say; it smells very bad! |
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Well, the site says when they re-open they will allow withdrawals but not rolling, so I'm not sure what they are talking about. Maybe they're talking about a little delay before allowing rolls again?
This thread is funny though, there were so many cheerleaders early on and I was thinking to myself, "Why? they are a totally new site and with such a low house edge it is dangerous." Guess I was right, I don't see them anywhere now...
PS-might want to take "instant cashout" out of the thread title...LOL
"no cashout" policy now; it doesn't make sense not to allow any cash out just because they are investigating one player or two players |
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If you are saving you have accumulated more when you are old than when you are young and you enjoy the compounded interests of your savings
I have seen bankrupt pensioners, who don't have a penny in their savings bank accounts. I have also seen young people (in their 30s) with massive bank balances.. so this is not always the case. Well that is true but one has to wonder what the story is Chances are those 30 year old massive bank balances could have lost it all just because of the thing called time by the time they reach their senior years You know gamble it all one night in Vegas lol I was talking in average obv! 30 years old with a large balance often means it's their parent's money |
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Do you guys think they will reopen and allow withdraws?
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Jorge, this is another example of you discarding information that doesn't meet your starting criterion of bitcoin = scam.
Confirmation bias doesn't do you any favours.
I have no reason to believe that Bitstamp is insolvent, but, if it were, it could and would easily fake that test. That the test is accepted without criticisms only confirms how gullible bitcoiners are. Bitcoin is not itself a scam, but I have never in my life seen an economic sector so chock full of scammers. Every crook in the world who learns a little about bitcoin would want to "adopt" it. It is a much more lucrative and "safe" vehicle for scams than the classical ones -- stolen credit cards, counterfeit cash, phony viagra, nigerian heirlooms, penny stocks, ponzi funds, ... I remember people saying something similar when something called 'the Internet' started to gain momentary popularity in the late 90s. Thank goodness that didn't work out. Bitcoin is a protocol. The rest will get worked out along the way, just as it was/is with the Internet. If you bought the internet companies of the 90's you probably didn't make any money Bitcoin is a great protocole, very useful and very strong, it will appear to most when the USD Euro Yen and Pound will collapse dramatically |
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Corned beef hash is my fav. What kind do you like? Maybe it was when blend was thrown in with hash?
Speaking of hash to you have a preference for hash browns? This thread will never end, don't you think? |
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The world just isn't going to be the same and we have been blessed as the pioneers.
I haven't been blessed. It was through my foresight that I saw bitcoin for how valuable it was. No man helped me along, and many discouraged me.This is the best post in this thread. "Blessed", yuck. Blessed are those who aren't blinded by outdated bronze-age superstitions and imaginary sky-friends.[/b] Satoshi is my favorite "imaginary sky-friend". FYI: "Blessed" does not always require a religious context. Anyone can pause and be grateful for the positive things in their life, and those moments are vital if you want to be happy. Edit: The primary definition of "blessed" is spiritual, so I guess I'm blessed to not be that worried about it.I am very blessed, and I would guess you are too even though its probably not by a conscious, omniscient being. I don't think we are blessed because we found bitcoin. That was in our own right. But, we are blessed for living in a society that allowed us to do so. Half the world never even had the chance, and you are blessed to not be one of them. "In all, 2.4 billion people lived on less than US $2 a day in 2010." -http://www.worldbank.org/en/topic/poverty/overview If you somehow worked to secure your stature in privileged society pre-birth, please enlighten us. Otherwise, you are blessed. I am blessed and wholeheartedly feel that way because of what you call "religious" reasons! To be granted a complete acquittal for my sins and that not for being "a good person" but just for humbly asking after realizing I will can be good enough on my own and because of God's great love is a pretty amazing blessing, more so than any amount of Bitcoin in the world. And on top of that, I do feel blessed for being born in America (although I don't entirely agree with everything we do in the US). We are privileged compared to many places in the world. You are privileged but hard times are coming; we will need to go much lower before we can go higher |
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site is down, any update? Noticed hotwallet and cold wallet were empty, rebuilding?
The wallets are empty and the site is down. Hmmmm.... The hot wallet contains everyone's deposit address, so it's hard to see the whole balance. The cold wallet address changed about a week ago. I updated the FAQ with the new address and a new signature. Was the site really down for a while? I wasn't offline for long so I guess I missed it. Or maybe it was a localised cloudflare outage. Why do you change the cold address once in a while? |
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If you are saving you have accumulated more when you are old than when you are young and you enjoy the compounded interests of your savings
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My own greed? That's a bit strong. I'm just saying that this isn't a traditional player vs casino case - the site admin has to be 100% sure that the bitcoins haven't been exploited in some way.
FWIW despite the 3SD (1DiCe) and 4SD (4747) sessions I saw I don't actually have any real reason to believe that this players did cheat, but obviously the site admin does - after all, it's not his Bitcoin that is at stake here, it's the investors vs those two.
He could have happily just paid out to 1DiCe and 4747, taken his considerable profit from the wagering and let the investors deal with it. Obviously that hasn't happened, which makes me believe there's something else going on here.
The owner has bitcoins invested in the site bankroll so it is partly his bitcoins and having a small bankroll reduce his potential earnings anyway It is very disappointing not to be able to access his funds for those who have money invested |
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So you addressed the first part of my point. I stand corrected on that.
I agree with you on the rest of your point: This bet "verification" ED is talking about sounds only like an attempt to find an reason not to pay. If someone lost money to ED and requested a "verification" of all the bets, how do you think that would have went down? Everyone would have accused them of just being butthurt over losing money and there would have been a whole lot of "well you knew the risks of gambling, yada yada..." What a ridiculous double standard. ED advertises "provably fair" so how is there a need for verification in a provably fair system? In the event of a site leak or whatever everyone is on about, that's the site owner's fault. You can't tell gamblers "you knew the risks of gambling, it's your loss for being bad at it" then not tell the site owner "you knew the risks of running a gambling website, it's your loss for being bad at it."
It's not my place to address that. I run the biggest BTC dice site, Just-Dice.com; I first came up with the idea of having visitors bankroll the site which everydice and many others have copied (and usually messed up), so when I saw you misunderstanding how that works I stepped in to explain it better. As for regularly proving solvency, of course that's a good idea. Any site that doesn't do it should be treated with suspicion. It's easy to do, so why not do it? Every Sunday Just-Dice publishes a list of investor balances, so you can check that your investment is included in the total, and we keep the coins in a well known address which we have signed with a message proving it is ours, so you can check that we really do have them all. JD is as safe as it gets for a Bitcoin casino Every Sunday Just-Dice publishes a list of investor balances, so you can check that your investment is included in the total, and we keep the coins in a well known address which we have signed with a message proving it is ours, so you can check that we really do have them all. That's the way to do it. Does JD take a percentage of all wagered bets (win or lose) like ED did, or only percentage of profit? "Commission is charged when profits are divested, or at midnight (UTC) on Sunday each week, whichever happens sooner. Commission is never charged twice on the same profits. For example if you invest 100 BTC and it grows to 110 BTC by the end of the first week, you will be charged 10% of your 10 BTC profit. If your remaining 109 BTC investment then shrinks to 105 BTC over the next week, you will not be charged any commission at the end of that week. And then, if it grows to 119 BTC by the end of the 3rd week, you will only be charged 10% commission on the new 10 BTC of profit over the previous high of 109 BTC. At any point you could divest up to your original investment of 100 BTC without being charged commission since we consider that when divesting you divest the original investment first, and profits later." BTW 1Dice1 was referred so someone made 5BTC out of its betting? Did someone else win more than 0.5 on ED so far? |
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Totally agree, but can't accept that young ones are smarter, than old ones, cause there are a lot of things in this world to learn about.
You can say that the younger ones adapt to the new technology more quickly when compared to the middle-aged and elderly. And in today's job market, that matters a lot. The younger have a faster mind, better reflexes and coordination but the old have better experience |
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I PM'ed Stunna and now I am happily re-enrolling
Starting posts: 2664
Bitcoin address: 18wBGvJwBSnj9ZyeQ4p7z8f9JCTfe71Z2Z
I probably made a mistake since I posted 17 messages since then and I have 2665 so I had 2648 when I enrolled!? Do you guys think I will get paid for the 17messages? It could have happened that you posted the correct value of starting posts, but some of your older posts were deleted in the meantime, or a thread in which you had previously posted was deleted. This would lower your total post count, but not affect your posts since signing up to the service again. As for whether or not this is the case, and if it is, if you will be paid for the posts, I have no idea.  No posts were deleted but a thread may have been deleted, I am sure I wrote the correct number when I enrolled again If a big thread was deleted it could be a problem for a lot of members... |
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EVERYDICE ADMIN IS A SCAMMER! 1Dice has been trying to withdraw his balance for OVER 24 HOURS and NO RESPONSE FROM ADMIN.
comedown dude it isnt 0.1 btc its 100 btc its over 50000$ its not easy to just give he needs to wait to receive that big of an amount He needs to play on a better site. Just-Dice makes multiple 100 BTC payouts every day without delay. What is hard about sending 100 BTC if you have it? It's inexcusable to delay payouts in the hope that he'll lose it back to the house. Bitcoin websites should allow instant cash outs, 1Dice1 is probably already playing on JD, he may deposit his funds there when the cash out is cleared A 24h delay considering the sum compared to the site bankroll seems reasonable though |
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what is this fed you speak of  Big banks and the government that use fiat currency to fund wars and their political agenda  |
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I PM'ed Stunna and now I am happily re-enrolling
Starting posts: 2664
Bitcoin address: 18wBGvJwBSnj9ZyeQ4p7z8f9JCTfe71Z2Z
I probably made a mistake since I posted 17 messages since then and I have 2665 so I had 2648 when I enrolled!? Do you guys think I will get paid for the 17messages? |
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Selling all of my 192BTC for 5$ each.
It probably felt like a lot back then, when did you buy back? |
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The Federal government has all the mtgox coins - be certain of that.
That's already my assumption. I think they did some blackmail on Karpeles to get his coins. They probably injected some childporn on his computer and said he probably did not want to get that fact public knowledge. There are two possibilities: One is that Karpeles was part of a government honeypot all along. The other is that he was forced to. I'm sure they could have threatened him with all kinds of things. He was already being forced into regulations in early 2012 when mtgox started requiring gov IDs for fiat withdrawals. Then they had their dwolla account frozen. These events tell me the government was already up their ass and probably knew everything about their finances. Add to that the bullshit stories about where the coins went that don't add up and the fact that Karpeles is still roaming free, and you can easily deduce that the Feds have all the mtgox transaction records and all the coins in their possession. Besides that he is in Japan. He is prosecuted by Japanese law. He's nationality is French. You US-Americans really think, you are the Center of the world ... There are good reasons for such a US centric perspective. Since at least 1945, the United States has been the political and economic guiding force of the entire English speaking world. Which, thanks to the British, was and remains the only truly global empire to ever exist. And don't forget, that Japan remains a US protectorate. If you don't think that US government agencies do have an influence on the MtGox case in Japan, you're delusional. I'm not claiming that is how the world should be, I'm saying that is how it actually is. One of the obvious and professed motivations for Satoshi to create Bitcoin in the beginning. The center of the world has shifted to Asia and whoever doesn't know that hasn't been in Asia recently There have been many other long lasting empires before; the US haven't been the richest for that long compared to UK or China and they won't be the richest very soon when their unfunded liabilities, budget debt, negative trade balance and heavy cost of public spending will lower dramatically the average american standard of living, it already relatively did when you compare the average american way of life in the 50's to what it is now There are a lot of human and physical capital in the states and a spirit of freedom moral and work that can be the foundation for a return to what allowed them to become the richest country in the first place : innovation, freedom, low taxes, small government |
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