With the completion of the allmine cryptoshell for the Bittware CVP-13 we will be getting back into bitstream development. We have 3 designs that will be released shortly from community developers, but their profitability is nothing amazing. We will start putting together our Phi2 design which will hopefully be released in the next 1-2 weeks. There is more to come, but I don't want to say what at this time. Most of the developers don't have a lot of base code to work from. We've offered to open up our code base to them if they'd release through the shell as well as provide BCU-1525 units for completion of designs. Unfortunately, that still hasn't attracted a lot of developer attention. Many of those claiming to be fpga developers on discord have disappeared  . Why are people buying these cards? Aren't the only ones who make money the ones who develop their own bitstreams? Feels like eating very expensive leftovers.
Here's a question for you.. There are about 5000 BCU-1525 in the wild, 1000 CVP-13s coming, 500-1000 VCU-1525, BTU9Ps, various clones, etc out there. How many units would a developer need to own themselves for it to provide the same revenue as a 5% fee from the units that are already out there (which would additionally require no up front capital investment from the developer)? Answer: about 400... Which would cost them > $1.5M. So, they can make a $1.5M investment and have the same revenue as not making ANY investment but just releasing their code. What would you do? I'm quite sure only an insane person would spend $1.5M to make the same amount of money as not spending $1.5M. What about private bitstreams? Wouldn't it be more profitable to just release the code? It depends on how much was over-paid for the private bitstreams, but in most cases, yes, it would be more profitable to just release the code. The person buying the bitstream doesn't know if someone else will invent the same and take their earnings before they've recovered. The developer has to trust the person who bought it won't try to resell it and cut the developer out. The person who buys it isn't sure if the developer will sell it to others. Seems like a risky proposition all around versus releasing it and being sure they'll get some fee % of the mining. A lot of what people have been talking about regarding this has been fud. Some is truth or at least based on truth. Obviously larger customers have been trying to acquire 'private bitstreams'; wouldn't you if you were them? But, I'm not sure they fully appreciate the situation of how much they'd have to pay to get that 'privately'. Some are buying 'private' bitstreams that are sold to many of these customers, all of them thinking they're the only one . |
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With the completion of the allmine cryptoshell for the Bittware CVP-13 we will be getting back into bitstream development. We have 3 designs that will be released shortly from community developers, but their profitability is nothing amazing. We will start putting together our Phi2 design which will hopefully be released in the next 1-2 weeks. There is more to come, but I don't want to say what at this time. Most of the developers don't have a lot of base code to work from. We've offered to open up our code base to them if they'd release through the shell as well as provide BCU-1525 units for completion of designs. Unfortunately, that still hasn't attracted a lot of developer attention. Many of those claiming to be fpga developers on discord have disappeared . Why are people buying these cards? Aren't the only ones who make money the ones who develop their own bitstreams? Feels like eating very expensive leftovers.
Here's a question for you.. There are about 5000 BCU-1525 in the wild, 1000 CVP-13s coming, 500-1000 VCU-1525, BTU9Ps, various clones, etc out there. How many units would a developer need to own themselves for it to provide the same revenue as a 5% fee from the units that are already out there (which would additionally require no up front capital investment from the developer)? Answer: about 400... Which would cost them > $1.5M. So, they can make a $1.5M investment and have the same revenue as not making ANY investment but just releasing their code. What would you do? I'm quite sure only an insane person would spend $1.5M to make the same amount of money as not spending $1.5M. |
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Cardboard seems to work better than the duct I made. The other thing that seems to work pretty well is that compressed cardboard stuff you get in the 'projects' section of lowes / home depot lumber area. It's easy to work with and you can quickly cut out forms that would enclose all the cards.
Looking for an efficient air duct design, any luck on a redesign of yours or maybe you could point me to someone? You'll want to hop on discord and speak with @Conlaeb#4993 -- He has a number of designs |
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Are you still doing refunds for the fpga orders?
No, *almost* everything should have shipped (according to SQRL), and what hasn't shipped is supposed to be shipped this week. If you haven't received yet send an email to sales@fpga.land with the relevant information and we'll check it out. https://store.squirrelsresearch.com/sqrl/bcu1525-active-heat-sink/Any news on the SQRL "Active Heatsink" fan attachment orders? I have had 2 BCU's delivered with the standard heatsink with no fan and ordered 2 of the active heatsinks.. says estimated delivery in 2018 and in stock now I heard these might of been only for factory install... if thats the case, can I get a refund (and I can buy some delta fans instead)? Otherwise I'm looking forward to them being shipped so I can use my BCU's I do not have any knowledge of the active cooling deliveries. I'm not sure if they're in stock or not. You would need to check with SQRL by filing a ticket in their store https://store.squirrelsresearch.comany timeline on bitstreams for monero being released?
I do not have any timelines. SQRL was delivering the monero bitstream. The lyra2z we were publishing has been released. You can register at https://all-mine.co/We're working closely with community developers and are expecting to have 3 new bitstreams for mining soon. The 3 bitstreams have been validated as working - we're now working to make them go faster. |
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the bitstream economics just dont work. There is no incentive to release a public bitstream, there is only an incentive to mine in secret.
Can you show me these numbers? How many FPGA at what speed would a developer need to have to compare against 5% fee of 5000 BCUs, 1000+ CVP-13s, few 100 BTU9Ps, few 100 VCUs, and that's not even mentioning some of the other projects that will be coming to market. What would these equivalent FPGA cost a developer? Do you know a lot of engineers? All the ones I've met are ridiculously risk adverse. In addition, I can't speak for everyone but... I'm not trying to "keep minimum profitability". I'm trying to roll out support for as many algos that we can as fast as we can. There are 3 community developed algorithms on the way. Allmine will be releasing an additional one going into December. I'm hoping things will calm down at SQRL and David will have time to shell his CNv7 and release a CNv8. We're releasing some of our private code to select community developers to give them a jump start on some of the larger and more profitable algorithms. I believe we will be seeing X-N variations coming toward the new year, neoscrypt, new equihash variants, and more  $15-$25/day is still on the table.. Even in down hill market. |
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Refunds have all been sent out last I spoke to SQRL (last week). SQRL is busy packaging and shipping acorns, water blocks have been received (as I understand it), the current hold up is waiting on more BCU-1525's to arrive from Xilinx. As far as I know those BCU's have shipped and are expected any time.
Thanks for keeping this thread updated. I'm here waiting for the coming day when I can post an announcement about the bitstreams community developers have created and are releasing |
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Whitefire say: "Soon coin developers will realize that FPGA's actually help their coin become ASIC resistant and everyone will be on board The deep irony right now is that GPU mining is so unprofitable for home-miners that the only really profitable GPU mining is GPU farms Hence to 'support' GPU's = supporting centralized GPU farms FPGA mining on the other hand is profitable in any country no matter how high the electrical cost So supporting FPGA mining is supporting decentralization since at-home miners can still make a profit Now if more people could just spread that message the conversion would happen very fast" from the discord there is plan to: 1. tag each user bitstream with serial 2. distribute only interly 3. make nicehash for FPGA to dump directly to BTC 4. already done remove info about algo/coin being mined??? (next step make miners mine at private FPGA nicehash not even knowing what they mine and for what fee) 5. covert mining I think Jihan is jealuse  You can buy the hardware and get the BS. I don't understand what is the problem with you. Before Whitefire make the FPGA mining public many people were mining with FPGA in secrete and many people like you and me did't even know that FPGA mining exist. They have been using them in secret since at least 2014. Lookup beekeeper litecoin FPGA. It was 25kh/s if I recall correctly. This has always been the scheme. Create “gpu” only coin and secretly mine with FPGA. It is what it is. I’m sure the refunds are causing a delay and further “testing” to need to be done. Ugh. Same ole pattern different day. BR Refunds have all been sent out last I spoke to SQRL (last week). SQRL is busy packaging and shipping acorns, water blocks have been received (as I understand it), the current hold up is waiting on more BCU-1525's to arrive from Xilinx. As far as I know those BCU's have shipped and are expected any time. |
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Cardboard seems to work better than the duct I made. The other thing that seems to work pretty well is that compressed cardboard stuff you get in the 'projects' section of lowes / home depot lumber area. It's easy to work with and you can quickly cut out forms that would enclose all the cards.
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I designed an air duct for use with open air cases that can be 3d printed. It will mount to a 120mm fan and sit the BCU inside of it. This should work for VCUs as well but the power header on the vcus is facing the top not the back so it wouldn't be ideal. STL File: https://ufile.io/12bsrOBJ Files: https://ufile.io/j58doNice, just need someone to print two of these now (found a company but they are asking a ludicrous 384€ to print one) Where do you live ? Maybe I can help you. Doubt so, i'm in France but i found a DIY Hobby house which can provide the service for 12€/hour (filament included) No idea how long it takes to print the model Took me 18 hours on the first one. Going to redesign soon as this model is too long for open air cases. I'm also getting pricing from some companies who do plastic injection molding. We might be able to get a bunch of them made at a low price and sell them for much less than the 216€ they want to make a single one. Should I hold my friend to print the previous version ? Ya, my design is not ideal due to backflow of air. Conlaeb on discord is continuing the mission to create a duct. |
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I designed an air duct for use with open air cases that can be 3d printed. It will mount to a 120mm fan and sit the BCU inside of it. This should work for VCUs as well but the power header on the vcus is facing the top not the back so it wouldn't be ideal. STL File: https://ufile.io/12bsrOBJ Files: https://ufile.io/j58doNice, just need someone to print two of these now (found a company but they are asking a ludicrous 384€ to print one) Where do you live ? Maybe I can help you. Doubt so, i'm in France but i found a DIY Hobby house which can provide the service for 12€/hour (filament included) No idea how long it takes to print the model Took me 18 hours on the first one. Going to redesign soon as this model is too long for open air cases. I'm also getting pricing from some companies who do plastic injection molding. We might be able to get a bunch of them made at a low price and sell them for much less than the 216€ they want to make a single one. |
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The duct works pretty well pictures or it didn't happen  |
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UPDATE:We're in the final test stages of our newest release of minerator, BMC firmware (which includes some critical fixes), and lyra2z design (60~ Mh/s @ 250~ Watts). To operate the lyra2z 60Mh/s you will need to first update your BMC firmware with our patch tool and minerator software. There are incompatibilities between the old and new version due to the fixes incorporated. We will be posting files, download links and instructions soon. New features to this release of minerator include - Auto-clock adjustment
- Auto-voltage adjustment
- API Interface on the software side
- Additional hardware monitoring
- Fixes for several known bugs of the previous release
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I designed an air duct for use with open air cases that can be 3d printed. It will mount to a 120mm fan and sit the BCU inside of it. This should work for VCUs as well but the power header on the vcus is facing the top not the back so it wouldn't be ideal. STL File: https://ufile.io/12bsrOBJ Files: https://ufile.io/j58do |
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I designed an air duct for use with open air cases that can be 3d printed. It will mount to a 120mm fan and sit the BCU inside of it. This should work for VCUs as well but the power header on the vcus is facing the top not the back so it wouldn't be ideal. STL File: https://ufile.io/12bsrOBJ Files: https://ufile.io/j58do |
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SO,my BCU1525 Board has been shipped.
It will arrive with SQRL mining software ?
where I can find other software that can be used besides Zetheron ?
Lyra2z 40mh/s is released on the shell already. We have several bitstreams from community developers in works. We've developed a faster lyra2z (possibly up to 80Mh/s with water cooling but may run at 55-60 with high end air cooling). We're also working on other streams just to try to move things along and give people more opportunities to mine on the cards. I'd expect at least 2 possibly 3 new bitstreams from us in the next month or so. We'll also be releasing the shell on the CVP-13 which I hope will get more community developers involved -- since the interfaces will be the same. Code developed for the bcu will compile without any change against the new chip. The developers would only need to create their new constraints and possibly modify the number of cores. Setup instructions are located at https://miner.all-mine.co/setup-instructions We will have new software packages, additional software updates and more installations in the days and weeks to come following shipping. The general goal of these is to add features and make things easier. |
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I had some critical things I needed to get complete. Haven't had a chance yet. I worked from sunday afternoon to tuesday afternoon with no sleep. Give me a break. I just woke up after 10hrs of sleep. Now i'm back here working again (with a massive headache probably high blood pressure -- LETS GO TEST SOME BOARDS WITH 300dB fans ) Hopefully I'll have time tomorrow to sync with jessica @ sqrl. |
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I didn't opt in for any upgrades on mine.. Should I have got an email to confirm mine was shipped?
Please PM me your order number and email I can check. |
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I requested a refund on August 25 and I was not refunded
Please PM me your order number and email address. I will find out from SQRL on monday why you have not been refunded yet. You can also contact sales@squirrelsresearch.com to find out why they haven't refunded you yet. All funds were sent to SQRL who sent them to Xilinx. The only customer funds I hold are those locked in paypal. I do not understand anything ... The bank transfer of 8757,44 dollars was made on the account of "allmine inc" ....  Which was then wire transferred to SQRL so they can fulfill their end of the JV according to what *you wanted*. |
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I requested a refund on August 25 and I was not refunded
Please PM me your order number and email address. I will find out from SQRL on monday why you have not been refunded yet. You can also contact sales@squirrelsresearch.com to find out why they haven't refunded you yet. All funds were sent to SQRL who sent them to Xilinx. The only customer funds I hold are those locked in paypal. |
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I just checked my documents and emails. I requested my refund on August 13th. And the order was paid on June 15th (payment receipt confirmed June 19th)
If you requested a refund that early you should have been one of the first. I'll find out on Monday from SQRL why you haven't been refunded yet. Can you PM me your order details? I have no idea if your cards were shipped to the new customers or not. I can find out though. May be you can spend those few valuable minutes on Monday simply making a refund to me? It will hardly take much longer to do than to have 3 minutes talk with SQRL team. The only cards that i have on the order are those i paid for directly to Allmine. (I used to have SQRL order but i resold it - or i would not have gotten that money either). Plus I know what their answer was ( "we run out of money, wait"). Yours was that I was not the first in the queue. Honestly, I do not want to know why something did not go in the past as it should have went, it is irrelevant at the moment. I just want a refund. Also, Squirrels are not returning my messages in Discord since September 27. This also explains the panic mode here. So i d prefer if you spend those valuable minutes refunding me if it gets me my money faster. Also, I do not care anymore if I loose on conversion from USD to Euro or not. You can send it to original account where it came from, to the bank in EU.The details were provided in email. I can resend the details if needed. Thanks. All funds were sent to SQRL - the only customer funds I still hold are frozen in paypal. They are the ones processing refunds. I have committed to use paypal funds to refund the remaining customers once they're unlocked. Until they're unlocked please contact sales@squirrelsresearch.com to find out why you haven't been refunded yet. As I said before, I will find out from them why they have not refunded you on monday. |
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