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Thanks for replying to this thread,
I will make necessary updates to my other threads.
Hate to say this but once any of the support already said to wait for a certain period of time, maybe at least have a little patience and wait jumping onto conclusions and making an accusation. I know it is your freedom to do so, but spamming posts on your own thread than just updating the main post is just pure unnecessary. A good practice to accuse some platforms is to prove with evidences (which you clearly done well) AND wait until such problem is resolved. I've seen you had the same issues with bets on other platforms -- which must be a common problem that occurs amongst all betting platforms, hence opening a thread of accusation is a little defamatory. These are just my take to this kind of spammed accusation. Hope all your tickets would be resolved. No, it's not resolved. They are denying me the payout.(Even though I received it immediately when they match was over, but they deducted it and now won't settle it) https://imgur.com/a/tX2pcu6Also, I didn't jump to any conclusion. Go through my post. It's purely factual. Has this now been resolved? I think there was a miscommunication here but from my understanding a coupon was sent to every individual who placed a similar bet on this match to reimburse them. |
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Can you please wait for the response of our support team before you make multiple scam threads. This bet was placed today and the odds say they were adjusted for some reason, wait for the team to give you a response on why this happened then make your threads. Edit: https://twitter.com/GambitEsports/status/1502278382762999820?s=20&t=kEha4ifdFT90XuH44DQbCg Our odds provider adjusted all the bets because the fixture did not exist, give us 24h to make this correct and then accuse us of scamming. They have already provided a reason, and I have included it in this post. In your screenshot they said that they will double-check for you and update you. I am waiting. But until I get a final answer from stake, I would like to keep these discussions open. You will get paid out, the team is just trying to find a streamlined way to do the resettlement for everyone and has contacted our odds provider. Please send me a direct message if you have any issues. |
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Nobody is saying you are wrong, I am on your side actually. I am just saying there was no need to open up multiple scam threads before this case is resolved. In fact I'm confident the team will fix this settlement for all individuals who placed a bet because it's the right thing to do. The reason why it automatically could not be settled is because the team changed it's name as we discussed. |
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Can you please wait for the response of our support team before you make multiple scam threads. This bet was placed today and the odds say they were adjusted for some reason, wait for the team to give you a response on why this happened then make your threads. Edit: https://twitter.com/GambitEsports/status/1502278382762999820?s=20&t=kEha4ifdFT90XuH44DQbCg Our odds provider adjusted all the bets because the fixture did not exist, give us 24h to make this correct and then accuse us of scamming. They have already provided a reason, and I have included it in this post. If I'm reading this correct in your screenshot they said that they will double-check for you and update you. As I mentioned give us 24h this is a very unique circumstance because this team was forced to change their name due to sanctions. If our odds provider does not change the settlement we will do it ourselves, your money is safe. |
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Can you please wait for the response of our support team before you make multiple scam threads. This bet was placed today and the odds say they were adjusted for some reason, wait for the team to give you a response on why this happened then make your threads. Edit: https://twitter.com/GambitEsports/status/1502278382762999820?s=20&t=kEha4ifdFT90XuH44DQbCg Our odds provider adjusted all the bets because the fixture did not exist, give us 24h to make this correct and then accuse us of scamming. |
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Point of the latter here is stake has been pulling a bunch of nonsense lately with a lot of customers. They are not who they once used to be. They care about 3-4 streamers and that’s it .
Adin Ross-$750k a week
Train-millions
Drake- billions
Xposed $150k a day lol
They better wake up quickly and remember that they’re more people then just those guys
You are bumping an old thread which should honestly have been removed from this section but signature posters keep bumping it. OP has not posted an update since the beginning of the year so I take it this issue is resolved. |
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Hi,
Could you please complete KYC truthfully as requested and then we'll go from there.
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Though I have never played at Stake, I have seen Stunna building it from scratch. With PrimeDice & Stake together, he is probably processing over a Billion dollar transaction every year. It's a bit difficult to digest that he'll suddenly scam someone for ~$70k. But, the whole situation that I understand, makes me ask a few fundamental questions to Stunna.
Let me first clarify if my understanding is right...
1. Stunna accuses Baskin198 of providing fake KYC docs.
2. Stunna accuses Baskin198 of being involved in Match Fixing.
I guess, on the basis of these two allegations, Baskin198's withdrawal is withheld by Stake.
This situation has little to do with #1 and everything to do with #2. OP is trying to make it seem like our actions are being based purely over KYC. The point is that this user attempted to deceive us with false documents to shield their true identity from their illegal activity in which Baskin along with his match fixing friends stung Stake for a significant amount of money. This isn't a situation of a unlucky user who placed bets on a couple matches which happened to be fixed, this is methodical match fixing where funds were even being sent from this individual to confirmed members of this match fixing syndicate. There is legitimately no doubt in our minds that this user's winnings were illegally obtained. We do not give a damn about 70k, we even just sent $1M to the ukraine aid donation address. We will always stand up against cheaters and do what is needed to keep these types of individuals off our platform. This user unfortunately got away with a significant profit from their match fixing which is why I have negative tagged them, their balance in question is money they stole from us in the first place. This user has tried to lie and deceive and do whatever is necessary to maximize their profit here but they knew what they were getting involved in. This user has taken a significant amount of funds from us and we will be pursuing the return of these funds as mentioned. There seems to obviously be a sensitive spot on this forum about KYC and terms and conditions being used to deny payments to legitimate players but this is not that type of situation and Stake has one of if not the best record in the crypto space for paying its users out. I will re-quote what I previously stated here: While I am having to greatly redact what I can share due to an ongoing investigation and not wanting to reveal our internal integrity measures. I will provide some insight into this situation. It is of our firm belief that user is engaged in match fixing and these concerns were echoed by our odds provider who independently warned us of your activity. On this thread you are witnessing some members of this match fixing ring all desperate to get their cut of this money.
OP found some information regarding fixed table tennis matches as he started taking maximum amount of profit from bets there where he never wagered before like that. His own XRP address had a transaction sent to a prior caught match fixer which looks like a payout for the information he got via him.
This link to the above match-fixing ring, in hindsight, likely gave the customer access to funds that subsequently increased staking - 75% of the accounts turnover occurred between Nov 2021 and 12th Jan after being operative since Nov 2019.
The customers Table Tennis activity on 8th Jan was flagged by our team after the user suspiciously bet on a very precise result as the match went Live. Within 22s the user bet on the match to finish 3-0 for €6.5k at 2.0; 50s later €5.7k at 2.6 on there being exactly 3 games in the match; 26s later, another €700 on Correct Score 3-0 at 2.2; and then 2x more for €1.5k total on exactly 3 games 3mins later; total loss from user on this match was -€17.5k
This most recent example was backing against a player which user then proceeded to back against on two more occasions on the 10th and then 11th of January - another sign of match-fixing with a syndicate in contact with, or ‘having their hooks into’, a player.
During January on Table Tennis the customer had 32 bets, all on a specific Table tennis competition, winning 29 of them at avg odds of 2.23. We laid €266k of Table Tennis bets in this time - an avg of €8.3k per bet Vs an avg. of €423 (1,965% increase) per bet since the accounts 1st bet in Nov 2019. The 3 bets which lost saw us make €5.4k profit, but in total during the month of January on Table Tennis we lost -€229.4k to the user — highly suspicious activity. The players in question are being investigated by the organizers of the table tennis tournament.
This situation was made even worse by OP trying to pass a variety of suspected fake identification documents as his own, all of which were rejected by our integrity team. This resulted in a block of your account. You sent us 4 different ID's all of them with different names, different numbers, and even different nationalities and places of birth.
All the above mentioned facts in conjunction with the ongoing investigation that confirmed your links to a well known match-fixer, support our decision of blocking your account and we will be pursuing the return of any funds.
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In case you missed it... Drake a long time Stake player has officially partnered with us and will be kicking off the partnership with a massive Livestream giveaway!  https://www.instagram.com/p/CalhVwOs0bd/https://twitter.com/Drake/status/1499836331433730049We haven't confirmed a date yet for the stream but I will keep you all in the loop, this will not be one to miss! This has all been surreal, I remember listening to endless drake when working on Primedice in 2012 to now announcing this partnership. Been an absolute ride, that this website we built has somehow attracted the biggest musician on the planet. This community has been a major part of this journey and we couldn't have done it without you all.  |
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We charge the average transaction fee https://ycharts.com/indicators/bitcoin_average_transaction_feeWhat we spend on fees on average is actually significantly more than that on average because of the number of inputs in play. Your transaction happened to use very few inputs and was during a non-peak time. Before you made your transaction we do tell you what the fee is and you do have the option to use coins with lower fee. But we would like to offer economy fee options going forward. |
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While I am having to greatly redact what I can share due to an ongoing investigation and not wanting to reveal our internal integrity measures. I will provide some insight into this situation. It is of our firm belief that user is engaged in match fixing and these concerns were echoed by our odds provider who independently warned us of your activity. On this thread you are witnessing some members of this match fixing ring all desperate to get their cut of this money.
OP found some information regarding fixed table tennis matches as he started taking maximum amount of profit from bets there where he never wagered before like that. His own XRP address had a transaction sent to a prior caught match fixer which looks like a payout for the information he got via him.
This link to the above match-fixing ring, in hindsight, likely gave the customer access to funds that subsequently increased staking - 75% of the accounts turnover occurred between Nov 2021 and 12th Jan after being operative since Nov 2019.
The customers Table Tennis activity on 8th Jan was flagged by our team after the user suspiciously bet on a very precise result as the match went Live. Within 22s the user bet on the match to finish 3-0 for €6.5k at 2.0; 50s later €5.7k at 2.6 on there being exactly 3 games in the match; 26s later, another €700 on Correct Score 3-0 at 2.2; and then 2x more for €1.5k total on exactly 3 games 3mins later; total loss from user on this match was -€17.5k
This most recent example was backing against a player which user then proceeded to back against on two more occasions on the 10th and then 11th of January - another sign of match-fixing with a syndicate in contact with, or ‘having their hooks into’, a player.
During January on Table Tennis the customer had 32 bets, all on a specific Table tennis competition, winning 29 of them at avg odds of 2.23. We laid €266k of Table Tennis bets in this time - an avg of €8.3k per bet Vs an avg. of €423 (1,965% increase) per bet since the accounts 1st bet in Nov 2019. The 3 bets which lost saw us make €5.4k profit, but in total during the month of January on Table Tennis we lost -€229.4k to the user — highly suspicious activity. The players in question are being investigated by the organizers of the table tennis tournament.
This situation was made even worse by OP trying to pass a variety of suspected fake identification documents as his own, all of which were rejected by our integrity team. This resulted in a block of your account. You sent us 4 different ID's all of them with different names, different numbers, and even different nationalities and places of birth.
All the above mentioned facts in conjunction with the ongoing investigation that confirmed your links to a well known match-fixer, support our decision of blocking your account and we will be pursuing the return of any funds.
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Stake is one of 2-3 websites on this entire forum that offers gambling responsibility and self-exclusion. We will be introducing better tools very soon to help players responsibly manage their gameplay. In this specific situation I am not sure if the correct protocols were followed by the player but I will investigate further. Under settings -> Preferences is where you can self-exclude your account automatically  https://stake.com/policies/self-exclusionI suggest you get a tool to block all gambling like Gamban. |
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Worth noting that CoinsRUs123 is alleged alt of LetsGetIt834 who has a history of creating accusations against stake, then deleting them, then creating them again, and then deleting them, in obvious attempt to shake down Stake. Stunna, if you reward these guys for the smear threads, even a little bit, especially when they're obviously lying about the situation, plan on dealing with many more threads like this in the future. I'm not sure what their agenda is, perhaps this is a group of match fixers who try and post to smear to encourage better outcomes. Ultimately the team will decide these outcomes not myself so spamming these forums is not going to help. In past I have done more than 10 articles all positive about stake so it must be clear that I have NO personal problems here neither I intend to extort money out of them. $70k is not something I can shrug off either and let it be.
Is this true: He has sent documents of at least 4 different people in his attempts to get verified.
Is this you: I won 2 BTC and stake has banned me 
MY KYC IS PENDING FOR 15 DAYS AND THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE ME GAMBLE AWAY MY MONEY BY DELAYING KYC Good catch here!
Is this you:
No, that's not me. Regarding the 4 different documents: They required documents in English and refused to cooperate at all, which is why I had to submit documents of my family members. I have already told them but not sure why they are playing around the wrong point. I have provided them with everything they have asked for, I just don't understand why they cannot put the acount in "withdraw only" mode as Edward claimed on his stream. He clearly said, they are not blocking any accounts but at worst put them on withdraw only mode. If they believe I shouldn't be a player how I am allowed to gamble even now? but just not allowed to withdraw. Let's see how long the investigation takes. Does everyone in your family have different last names? |
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There are a lot of casinos that follow Stake. The stake has gained a reputation over the last few years. Which is heard-earned. And I believe Stake gained massive success and competitive casinos try to follow Stake's Strategy to build up their business. But, there is a dark side to casinos. I have noticed that there are a lot of players creating scam accusations of big amounts. And it's doesn't stop. Every month we see new accusations and sometimes a couple of accusations. I don't believe all of them are lies. This is bad practice from the stake.
They are evading the question WHY I AM ALLOWED TO GAMBLE WHILE NOT ALLOWED TO WITHDRAW? I gave you a response on your thread. If you keep spamming here I will not provide you further updates period. |
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The other issues can potentially be rectified if you gave us full cooperation.
Look man, I am gambling at stake not at the odds provider's site so obviously, I am going to question you, makes sense? Also if you are just letting the player suffer while odds provider is the king, you better mention it somewhere that odds provider can fuck any player anytime they wish and STAKE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE nor going to help Regarding cooperation, I have said many times that I am ready to provide whatever is needed. I was patiently waiting but at some point it starts to feel like "being polite was being taken as naive" The string of matches you won big on are under investigation, and I don't have any update at this time or timeline for when they will update us. That's really all I have to say about this right now. I will update you when I have one. Not an ideal situation for either of us, but obviously we cannot let you withdraw at this moment.
If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches their account will likely be permanently banned.
Dang. I have a question. I don't watch matches and I am not a big fan of sports bet. I do like Dice games and I always enjoy playing dice games. But, Sometimes I watch a few special matches, for example, Barcelona VS PSG. Suppose I made a bet and I don't know if the match was fixed. So, I am going to be banned because I won the prize from fixed matches? If this is the situation and this is the rules of your casino, Fuck off dude. I am an average Joe who doesn't even know what happened behind the matches and you guys will ban my account permanently just because I won from the fixed matches. Good question, probably not. If you were making a ton of bets on Uzbekistani Volleyball on multiple accounts and winning at a very high rate on players or events that are later found to be compromised then you would be reviewed. These situations are not common and we and our odds providers have teams of experts to monitor risk and do our best to prevent false-positives |
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@Stunna So this guy will not be able to submit the documents anymore. Right? And what is the final decision? Suppose your Provider says there is nothing wrong with his bets. What you guys are going to do then? I guess you guys will not pay him because he doesn't have any chance to verify his account anymore. Without verifying, he cannot make withdrawal requests. So, I guess we got the final answer. His funds will be confiscated if I am not wrong. Right?
Another question: Do you request users to read the TOS/TAC of the odds provider? Do they have the right to take such a long time? How do they suspect the match was fixed? Based on win and loss amount?
If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches it is likely that their account will be permanently banned. But I cannot speculate on this until the investigation is concluded. And in this situation the user is cleared they would still need to pass our compliance team's review. So you WON'T pay in both cases, right? That's not what I said. Right now your fate is primarily in the hands of our odds provider, spamming this forum is not going to make any difference. We have a legal obligation not to pay out individuals involved in match fixing. The other issues can potentially be rectified if you gave us full cooperation. |
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@Stunna So this guy will not be able to submit the documents anymore. Right? And what is the final decision? Suppose your Provider says there is nothing wrong with his bets. What you guys are going to do then? I guess you guys will not pay him because he doesn't have any chance to verify his account anymore. Without verifying, he cannot make withdrawal requests. So, I guess we got the final answer. His funds will be confiscated if I am not wrong. Right?
Another question: Do you request users to read the TOS/TAC of the odds provider? Do they have the right to take such a long time? How do they suspect the match was fixed? Based on win and loss amount?
If their winnings are from a string of fixed matches it is likely that their account will be permanently banned. But I cannot speculate on this until the investigation is concluded. And in this situation the user is cleared they would still need to pass our compliance team's review the fact multiple ID's were sent makes this even more complicated but how to move forward will be at their discretion. |
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Our odds provider is investigating what they believe are fixed matches on which this user placed bets and won on and we are still waiting on them to update us on the outcome of this. We are aware that it is a long process but there is nothing that we can do to speed it up. Due to the highly suspicious games, his account was restricted pending completion of a compliance review and the prior mentioned investigation. In the meantime he was asked to provide further KYC, which is a standard procedure in situations like this. He has sent documents of at least 4 different people in his attempts to get verified. This has now been escalated to our integrity team to review and made this situation an even more challenging one to find a way forward. So they are also coming after you with this "multi-accounting issue". It's so fucking funny when their biggest streamers talk AND SHOW it live on twitch how they play with different accounts for different "seeds", lol.
I have no idea whether or not Stake is in the right or wrong for Baskin198's case, but I think intent matters a lot for multiaccounting. I think Stake's anti-multiaccounting policy is to prevent people from farming chat rain, getting multiple VIP bonuses and entering multiple times in promotions. Most sportsbooks also really don't like players that try to multiaccount to bypass betting limits. For most streamers, none of these reasons really apply. I haven't been active on Stake for a while, but a few years ago it was pretty common to see players use "bank" accounts to save their winnings. I don't think anyone ever got banned for it as long as they didn't also use it for other things. Yes exactly this. We have a reputation built up over many years of paying every legitimate player out, I'm not going to sit here and let a bunch of a brand new shill accounts speculate that we would ever restrict someone's account for a mundane reason. |
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