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All Russian soldiers, their supporters, and collaborators in Ukraine will be eliminated. It is a given. Putin can keep sending them, and they will die soon after they arrive. This is an unwinnable war for Russia. You really are an unusually good representative of what seems to be the mentality of the standard Ukroid pawn. Small wonder Ukraine is losing 10 or 15 to one KIA to the Russians. It's getting more and more difficult to maintain some level of empathy for your class of cretin with every visit this board. I have to remind myself that it is in the interest of a lot of the small-hats to have the world sympathize not-at-all with the Ukroid slavs who they've decorated up with swastikas and who are the real targets of this genocide, and that there is every possibility that people who act like you are pretending to be something they are not. People who support Russia are genocidal, imperialist psychopaths. Russia is the aggressor. Always has been. Ask any of its neighbours. Yup. Another classic illustration of the cretinism which characterizes the Ukrainian Nazis under control of the Zelenzkij/Kolomoyski regime (which is itself a tool lovingly cultivated by the OSS/CIA/U.S State Dept for decades.) Well done, but the question remains as to whether you are 'for real' or LARPing as a mouth-breathing Nazi? And if the latter, for political, philosophical, or financial reasons or some combination. There are more than a few desperate 'work-from-home' wanna-be influencer people kicking around who will say and do anything which is spec'd out in a tasking. --- As for 'Russian aggression', looks to me more like since the fall of the Soviet Union Russia has been quite inward looking. Even when the Donbass people begged to join Russia they declined and instead went the ultimately futile way of trying negotiating a treaty (Minsk.) It wasn't their fault that the counter-party (Ukraine and the West) were just trying to buy time to build up for this war and never had any intention of making good on the deal. Seems that when Russia is reluctantly stirred into action, they take care of business then leave ASAP. Georgia comes to mind. In other examples (e.g., Syria) it seems like they do stick around if asked by the client and basically do what is necessary...as long as it doesn't involve crossing their master with the ' Little Horn'. Ukrainians fought the real Nazis while the Russians were watching from the back. The soldier raising the Soviet flag over the Reichstag was from Sumi. Keep on repeating the official propaganda, that only makes it even more clear that there is no legitimate reason for this aggression. You just say Nazi this or Nazi that... no argument, no credible information, ... you are the definition of a troll, a not very particularly effective one. The level of propaganda is getting off the charts here. There's whitewashing, rewriting history and then there's this! Surely there's a ton of other shit you can accuse Russians of but this  is this an attempt to polarize and radicalizing your core at the cost of alienating all objective people? Or the quality of propaganda is just a function of desperation? |
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RE ghost of Kiev, the first time I hear about it was from an Ukrainian living elsewhere. My answer was "every nation needs their hope". True or not matters nothing, RF warplanes are a rarity in Ukraine as of now. RE, blowing of the dam, the news I have (and I do not give much credit either) is that the RF has been considering blowing it up, as it would create a barrier to the Ukrainian current advance in the form of a wasteland of mud. If that happens, it would be when Ukrainian troops get closer and would be fake-informed as an Ukrainian doing. For Ukraine, there is no strategic, tactical, economical, logistical or even retaliatory value in blowing up Kakhovka dam. There are however excellent reasons to take it intact - including the 357 MW electric generation capability. In terms of getting "even", well, I think Ukraine is trying to avoid that type of answer (I think that their "uncles in the West" are doing a good work at keeping their minds cold). ... EDIT: Paul Sonne
@PaulSonne· Follow Putin: The only country in the world that has used nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear state is the United States of AmericaA prominent critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin, he advised British intelligence and coined the term "mafia state".[5]
In November 1998, Litvinenko and several other FSB officers publicly accused their superiors of ordering the assassination of the Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky. Litvinenko was arrested the following March on charges of exceeding the authority of his position. He was acquitted in November 1999 but re-arrested before the charges were again dismissed in 2000. He fled with his family to London and was granted asylum in the United Kingdom...
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On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalised after poisoning by polonium-210; he died from the poisoning on 23 November
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A public inquiry began on 27 January 2015,[10] and concluded in January 2016 that Litvinenko's murder was carried out by the two suspects and that they were "probably" acting under the direction of the FSB and with the approval of president Vladimir Putin and then FSB director Nikolai Patrushev.
Sadly, the death of Litvinenko confirms his own assertion of Putin's RF being a Mafia State. Not that the British do not like a good mass-murder to make sure "the lesson is not forgotten" (they used to learnt it that way at school at school too). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II...
The bombing of Dresden was a joint British and American aerial bombing attack on the city of Dresden, the capital of the German state of Saxony, during World War II. In four raids between 13 and 15 February 1945, 772 heavy bombers of the Royal Air Force (RAF) and 527 of the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF) dropped more than 3,900 tons of high-explosive bombs and incendiary devices on the city.[1] The bombing and the resulting firestorm destroyed more than 1,600 acres (6.5 km2) of the city centre.[2] An estimated 22,700[3] to 25,000[4] people were killed.[a]
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Critics of the bombing have asserted that Dresden was a cultural landmark with little strategic significance, and that the attacks were indiscriminate area bombing and were not proportionate to the military gains.
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To note, some less reliable sources set the toll at 200,000 killed. I wonder if they though "What is the need for a nuke, when you have phosphor?" EDIT: I wonder if we should consider the radiation cloud from Chernobyl that was enjoyed by the children on northern and central Europe could be considered as a nuclear attack from the USSR to Europe. They certainly did not tell anyone what was happening - it was Sweden that detected it. The initial evidence that a release of radioactive material had occurred came not from Soviet sources, but from Sweden, where on 28 April[17] (two days after the disaster itself) workers at the Forsmark Nuclear Power Plant (approximately 1100 km from the Chernobyl site) were found to have radioactive particles on their clothing.
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 Voulez vous vôtre baguette avec un petit peu d´Uranium? Problem with that line of thinking is that any propaganda can be justified as "hope". How you'll be judged depends on the outcome of the conflict, if your side wins you're praised for lifting the moral and for encouraging fighters towards a quicker victory, if your side loses then you were spreading propaganda were enabler and responsible for more senseless deaths of the naive that actually believed you. Of course propagandists always retort that with "at least it saved the earth/galaxy/universe which would otherwise surely be destroyed next", which of course is unverifiable and just a slippery slope argument. If radioactive substance == nuclear weapons then Karen Gay Silkwood (February 19, 1946 – November 13, 1974) was an American chemical technician and labor union activist known for raising concerns about corporate practices related to health and safety in a nuclear facility.
She worked at the Kerr-McGee Cimarron Fuel Fabrication Site in Oklahoma, making plutonium pellets, and became the first woman on the union's negotiating team. After testifying to the Atomic Energy Commission about her concerns, she was found to have plutonium contamination on her person and in her home. While driving to meet with a New York Times journalist and an official of her union's national office, she died in a car crash under unclear circumstances....her body contained almost 400 times the legal limit for plutonium contamination...she was found to be dangerously contaminated, even expelling contaminated air from her lungs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_SilkwoodFor firebombing which literally start firestorms look into Operation Meetinghouse. If US/Japan relationship can recover from that to what it is now then... More than 90,000 and possibly over 100,000 Japanese people were killed, mostly civilians, and one million were left homeless, making it the most destructive single air attack in human history...Some American airmen also needed to use oxygen masks when the odor of burning flesh entered their aircraft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo_(10_March_1945)
Would be a great answer if my question was how likely it was for Ukraine to lose, only it wasn't and you're once again hilariously trying to weasel out of the question by forming another straw man, your attempts at deceptions entertain me "what are some major indicators for you that Ukraine might be loosing? [sic]" is a loaded question. I should know better than trying to answer such questions but still, saying that I don't see such "major indicators" or that losing is unlikely - valid answers no matter how much you dislike them. For Ukraine, there is no strategic, tactical, economical, logistical or even retaliatory value in blowing up Kakhovka dam. There are however excellent reasons to take it intact - including the 357 MW electric generation capability. In terms of getting "even", well, I think Ukraine is trying to avoid that type of answer (I think that their "uncles in the West" are doing a good work at keeping their minds cold).
Putin bombing the shit out of electric supply infrastructure all over Ukraine and also blaming Ukraine for allegedly planning to blow up their own hydro and nuclear plants, typical Russian propaganda projection. "See Ukrainians have these bad terrorist thoughts but we are the good guys totally non-genocidally-terroristically liberating Ukrainians from heat and electricity during the cold season". There are probably some strategists in Kremlin thinking that this will make Ukrainians line the streets waving Russian flags and welcoming the liberators, exactly like they did in Kyiv back in February. I like how you conveniently leave out that "their own" hydro and nuclear plants, are actually fully controlled and claimed by Russia to now be totally Russian and don't provide any electricity to Ukraine anymore. But your target audience don't really need to know these inconvenient facts at all right? Why even attempt to be objective when you can just keep on pushing your agenda. See it's only a loaded question for people spreading propaganda, as by definition they can't even discuss negative outcomes or the precursors to them, where objective people can discuss anything. I for one can and did easily state that if Ukraine in total is still taking land in January, Russia might be loosing, or if Ukraine gets tanks and trillions in new commitment to counter RU mobilization (instead of just warm scarfs, gloves and more ammo) it's another indicator of escalation to which RU's only options are either a tactical nuclear response or a total collapse. See how easy it is when you're not just spreading propaganda? |
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... You know you have superiority complex, maybe even fascist inclination, when you only
value western media, one that brought us Ghost of Kiev and other such garbage
The only place I've heard of the Ghost of Kiev was this thread, and I think it was you who posted about it. So I think your understanding of "Western media" and how people use it is severely skewed. Haha playing dumb yet again? Perhaps you should read up on the news first before commenting, i cannot find a mass media outlet that did NOT cover the Ghost of Kyiv. Playing selective ignorance doesn't suit you well at all. You refusal to admit to even knowing a known fakes are quiet telling, guess you don't remember the other "hero" either, the guy who surrendered and received the hero of Ukraine award "posthumously" while in captivity  "Ghost of Kyiv": the MiG-29 pilot won 6 aerial victories over the occupier in 30 hours https://www.5.ua/ukrayina/pryvyd-kyieva-pilot-mih-29-za-30-hodyn-zdobuv-6-povitrianykh-peremoh-nad-okupantom-269346.htmlOne Ukrainian pilot shot down six Russian planes https://ua.korrespondent.net/ukraine/4451566-odyn-ukrainskyi-lotchyk-zbyv-shist-rosiiskykh-litakivGhost of Kyiv: how many enemy planes has already been shot down by the Ukrainian hero https://24tv.ua/privid-kiyeva-skilki-zbiv-litakiv-rosiyi-statistika_n1889483Ukraine posts photo of so-called ‘Ghost of Kyiv’ with death threat for Russian troops https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ghost-of-kyiv-ukraine-russia-photo-b2034475.htmlDoes anyone know this Poroshenko guy? think he was a previous UA president or something? The photo shows a MiG-29 pilot. The same "Ghost of Kyiv".
He causes terror in enemies and pride in Ukrainians 🇺🇦
He has 6 victories over Russian pilots!
With such powerful defenders, Ukraine will definitely win! https://twitter.com/poroshenko/status/1497293195763408905Who is the ‘Ghost of Kyiv’? Story of Ukrainian ace pilot goes viral
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According to one widely circulated post, the Ghost of Kyiv supposedly shot down four Russian fighter jets — two Su-35 Flankers, one Su-27 Flanker and one MiG-29 Fulcrum — as well as two ground-attack aircraft, so-called Su-25 Frogfoots.
https://nypost.com/2022/02/25/who-is-the-ghost-of-kyiv-story-of-ukrainian-ace-pilot-goes-viral/Meet Ukraine’s Ghost of Kyiv who is ‘coming for Russia’s soul’ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/meet-the-ghost-of-kyiv-coming-for-russias-soul-0s9gn9t89The Ghost of Kyiv, Ukraine's urban legend of a hero ace pilot
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Twitter is going wild with the alleged appearance of an unlikely Ukrainian jet pilot who has already downed a confirmed 6 Russian enemy aircrafts. https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2022/02/25/621851ddca4741a0458b4652.htmlWho is the 'Ghost of Kyiv'? Tale of Ukrainian fighter pilot trends on social media
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KYIV, Ukraine - Social media is buzzing about unconfirmed claims that a single fighter pilot — dubbed the "Ghost of Kyiv" — took down six Russian jets.
https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/ghost-of-kyiv-tale-of-ukrainian-fighter-pilot-trends-social-mediaHow Ukraine's 'Ghost of Kyiv' legendary pilot was born https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61285833Let's see what official Air Force Command of UA Armed Forces says about this ❗️ Hero of Ukraine Stepan Tarabalka is NOT the "Ghost of Kyiv" and he did NOT shoot down 40 planes. On March 13, 2022, Major Stepan Tarabalka died heroically in an aerial battle with the superior forces of the Russian invaders. Here is information about him on our official page: https://www.facebook.com/kpszsu/posts/339462291555059. The ghost of Kyiv is a superhero-legend, whose figure was created by Ukrainians! It is rather a collective image of the pilots of the 40th brigade of tactical aviation of the Air Force, who protect the sky of the capital. Which suddenly appear where they are not expected! The ‘Ghost of Kyiv’ Is a Myth, Ukraine Acknowledges https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/01/world/europe/ghost-kyiv-ukraine-myth.htmlDon't blow up the dam? But Russia is adding reinforcements to Kherson down the dam and without the dam Crimea would loose its fresh water access. And you know how Russia likes to blow up their gas pipes and shell their nuclear plants, not sure if they can just hold back from blowing up the dam that helps them so much?
Compelling arguments but I still think that blowing up the dam is a bad idea. Losing when it might be losing, you could've just said that it's inconceivable to you.
Losing is unlikely with the way things stand now. "(In)conceivable" tends to be a weasel word in this context but I can understand why you would use it. Would be a great answer if my question was how likely it was for Ukraine to lose, only it wasn't and you're once again hilariously trying to weasel out of the question by forming another straw man, your attempts at deceptions entertain me |
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... Glad we finally found someone who can speak on behalf of the whole country. Now care to provide an example of a nations that don't want to join NATO (if there are any)? Do Belarusians want to join? Serbs? Taiwanese? Australians? How much resources would it take to "convince" a small nation that they want to join NATO? Is it a stable system, if you have a hegemony and global reserve currency what can possible stop you from endless expansion and consumption of more regions? Congrats you have a solution to perpetual word at war! Possible outcomes of conflict in Ukraine, either things go how they were prior to 2014, or Ukraine enters NATO and it starts all over, world gets dragged into the same thing but now to free people in Belarus because they just want to join NATO so muuch!
I guess if the masses don't question why would Russia shoot at the nuclear power plant that it controls, let people out of Mariupol before taking it over, or blow up their own gas pipeline before it's needed the most, they won't question why would UA's Major General of Defence Intelligence Agency want to take Nova Kakhovka dam under artillery fire control, or how exactly that would accelerate Russian withdrawal? I mean people still believe that Orc's just like to shoot at themselves for fun right?? Or did CNN started to push RU propaganda? The head of Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Agency, Major Gen. Kyrylo Budanov told CNN on Wednesday, “the Russians are trying to remove and take with them all the remains of their so-called ‘occupation administration’ from Kherson city and surrounding areas.”
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Russia, he said, “realizes and understands the whole difficulty of their situation and they don’t want to be totally encircled.”
Budanov said the Russian withdrawal will accelerate when Ukraine “takes the Nova Kakhovka dam under our artillery fire control.”
“That’s why all our fighting units are moving towards both Kherson and Nova Kakhovka,” he added.
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-26-22#h_8270748d1157f665c09b2df10d90501dThe "gas pipes" were blown up by the RF, international experts have expressed serious concerns about Zapo plant being blown as the RF does not accept a demilitarised zone around it. And, most importantly, the control of the dam is key for Crimea as it may restrict (or allow) the water supply, not something to blow up with artillery (another stupid theory - Ukraine blowing up the key to their hold over Crimea) and that is why it may have been mentioned. Now, go back to the drawing board of your alternate reality. BTW, curiously and as of now, your link points to this headline: 20 hr 19 min ago
Ukraine's military intelligence says Russia is reinforcing Kherson with recruits as "cannon fodder"
From CNN's Nic Robertson in Kyiv
Ukraine’s military intelligence says Russia continues to remove its “occupation administration” from the southern Kherson region but is reinforcing the city with recently mobilized recruits and suggests they are being used as “cannon fodder.” Ah such a concise and clear explanation, so general wants to take the damn under artillery fire because it's a key for Crimea and that's why it'll accelerate Russian withdrawal? Clear as mud, but who cares just need to arrange words in a somewhat readable sentence, targeted audience can't think for themselves anyway. "I don't see them [the Russians] running away from Kherson. This is an information attack, I can't disclose everything. This is an attack so that we go there, so that we transfer our troops there from other dangerous directions. It was their [Russian] information operation. They [the Russians] are not ready to leave Kherson. But they know that if we succeed, they won't be able to leave. The Russians are aware of this problem and danger," Zelensky said. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3602356-russians-not-fleeing-from-kherson-besttrained-soldiers-remain-in-place-zelensky.htmlUkraine Situation Report: Intel Chief Says Russia Is Reinforcing Kherson City https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-situation-report-intel-chief-says-russia-is-reinforcing-kherson-city/ar-AA13kUopBlowing the Soviet-era dam, which is controlled by Russia, would unleash a wall of devastating floodwater across much of the Kherson region which Russia last month proclaimed as annexed in the face of a Ukrainian advance. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/is-kakhovka-dam-ukraine-about-be-blown-2022-10-21/I'm sure by "artillery fire control" what the general really meant was "to secure and provide safety for" and it will accelerate withdrawal because Russians will just piss their pants and run away from such provided safety to the damn! Right? I need this, please lie to me some more! Ask any friend you have in the military why they want to have a dam they intend to eventually control firstly "in artillery range". Hint 1: When you are not in the enemy's artillery range, the enemy cannot shell your position to dust. Hint 2: if you are under shelling, it is usually a bad idea to stay there. Read carefully: Not the dam, the military positions around the dam. I hope this is correctly understood. I just said why, but it aaaaalll right... I can say it again: Nearly all the water supply to Crimea comes from the canal on the east bank near the dam. The general is sending a clear message to the world: "The RF is about to loose a critical asset to hold the grip on Crimea". I rarely say anything categorically, but on this case, it is very clear that it would ridiculously stupid for Ukraine to blow that dam. The sad thing is that, if it ever happens nobody would claim ownership of the f**kup. Ahhh well now you cleared it up, so when general says when he "takes the Nova Kakhovka dam under our artillery fire control.” what he's actually talking about is the military positions that just happened to be around the dam, and the dam being in the vicinity of this is just a silly coincidence. Now this is a story i can believe! Why would Ukraine blow up the damn that brings fresh water to Crimea that would be nonsense right? 
The point is to underline the absurdity of the claims, not sure where you're seeing ura-patriotism!?!
Absurdity of which claims? You're the one throwing a bunch of random stuff out here, mostly Kremlin propaganda in the form of loaded or rhetorical questions. Granted that's quite absurd so mission accomplished I guess. What is pretty certain that if damn is blown while over 50% of Kherson is under RU control, then Orcs just like to shoot at themselves, if it's blown when UA takes over 50% then RU are terrorists.
Well, that's an easy one to avoid. Don't blow up the dam. ... does it really matter outside of posturing and these forum bickering? What interests me more are concrete indicators of the conflict turning one way or the other. Let me ask you this, what are some major indicators for you that Ukraine might be loosing? (Or it's just inconceivable for you?)
If it starts losing that would be a major indicator that it might be losing.... Don't blow up the dam? But Russia is adding reinforcements to Kherson down the dam and without the dam Crimea would loose its fresh water access. And you know how Russia likes to blow up their gas pipes and shell their nuclear plants, not sure if they can just hold back from blowing up the dam that helps them so much? Losing when it might be losing, you could've just said that it's inconceivable to you. |
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I'm sure by "artillery fire control" what the general really meant was "to secure and provide safety for" and it will accelerate withdrawal because Russians will just piss their pants and run away from such provided safety to the damn! Right? I need this, please lie to me some more!
Is there a point you're trying to make or do you just need to vent your ura-patriotism after Putin's speech? Are Russians not going to run from Kherson? The point is to underline the absurdity of the claims, not sure where you're seeing ura-patriotism!?! What is pretty certain that if damn is blown while over 50% of Kherson is under RU control, then Orcs just like to shoot at themselves, if it's blown when UA takes over 50% then RU are terrorists. I'm just glad that Russians are at least evacuating civilians! Ukraine's window of opportunity is shrinking, winter is coming it'll take away mobility and cover which Ukraine managed to greatly use to its advantage. Ukraine needs to throw in all it got before that, is it enough to take Kherson? i have no idea (i didn't even think UA could take all that land by Kharkiv), do you consider it or Bakhmut a decisive battle? does it really matter outside of posturing and these forum bickering? What interests me more are concrete indicators of the conflict turning one way or the other. Let me ask you this, what are some major indicators for you that Ukraine might be loosing? (Or it's just inconceivable for you?) Here's what i'm looking at Elections in US Watch as support for funding Ukraine erodes among RepublicansGBP, EUR, JPY, RUB, USD rates. Indicators of Belarus joining the conflict opening new front New committed aid to Ukraine UA believes that it's fighting for EU, will EU provide electricity to Ukraine? Will new UK prime minister hold out longer than a head of lettuce? |
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... Glad we finally found someone who can speak on behalf of the whole country. Now care to provide an example of a nations that don't want to join NATO (if there are any)? Do Belarusians want to join? Serbs? Taiwanese? Australians? How much resources would it take to "convince" a small nation that they want to join NATO? Is it a stable system, if you have a hegemony and global reserve currency what can possible stop you from endless expansion and consumption of more regions? Congrats you have a solution to perpetual word at war! Possible outcomes of conflict in Ukraine, either things go how they were prior to 2014, or Ukraine enters NATO and it starts all over, world gets dragged into the same thing but now to free people in Belarus because they just want to join NATO so muuch!
I guess if the masses don't question why would Russia shoot at the nuclear power plant that it controls, let people out of Mariupol before taking it over, or blow up their own gas pipeline before it's needed the most, they won't question why would UA's Major General of Defence Intelligence Agency want to take Nova Kakhovka dam under artillery fire control, or how exactly that would accelerate Russian withdrawal? I mean people still believe that Orc's just like to shoot at themselves for fun right?? Or did CNN started to push RU propaganda? The head of Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Agency, Major Gen. Kyrylo Budanov told CNN on Wednesday, “the Russians are trying to remove and take with them all the remains of their so-called ‘occupation administration’ from Kherson city and surrounding areas.”
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Russia, he said, “realizes and understands the whole difficulty of their situation and they don’t want to be totally encircled.”
Budanov said the Russian withdrawal will accelerate when Ukraine “takes the Nova Kakhovka dam under our artillery fire control.”
“That’s why all our fighting units are moving towards both Kherson and Nova Kakhovka,” he added.
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-10-26-22#h_8270748d1157f665c09b2df10d90501dThe "gas pipes" were blown up by the RF, international experts have expressed serious concerns about Zapo plant being blown as the RF does not accept a demilitarised zone around it. And, most importantly, the control of the dam is key for Crimea as it may restrict (or allow) the water supply, not something to blow up with artillery (another stupid theory - Ukraine blowing up the key to their hold over Crimea) and that is why it may have been mentioned. Now, go back to the drawing board of your alternate reality. BTW, curiously and as of now, your link points to this headline: 20 hr 19 min ago
Ukraine's military intelligence says Russia is reinforcing Kherson with recruits as "cannon fodder"
From CNN's Nic Robertson in Kyiv
Ukraine’s military intelligence says Russia continues to remove its “occupation administration” from the southern Kherson region but is reinforcing the city with recently mobilized recruits and suggests they are being used as “cannon fodder.” Ah such a concise and clear explanation, so general wants to take the damn under artillery fire because it's a key for Crimea and that's why it'll accelerate Russian withdrawal? Clear as mud, but who cares just need to arrange words in a somewhat readable sentence, targeted audience can't think for themselves anyway. "I don't see them [the Russians] running away from Kherson. This is an information attack, I can't disclose everything. This is an attack so that we go there, so that we transfer our troops there from other dangerous directions. It was their [Russian] information operation. They [the Russians] are not ready to leave Kherson. But they know that if we succeed, they won't be able to leave. The Russians are aware of this problem and danger," Zelensky said. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3602356-russians-not-fleeing-from-kherson-besttrained-soldiers-remain-in-place-zelensky.htmlUkraine Situation Report: Intel Chief Says Russia Is Reinforcing Kherson City https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-situation-report-intel-chief-says-russia-is-reinforcing-kherson-city/ar-AA13kUopBlowing the Soviet-era dam, which is controlled by Russia, would unleash a wall of devastating floodwater across much of the Kherson region which Russia last month proclaimed as annexed in the face of a Ukrainian advance. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/is-kakhovka-dam-ukraine-about-be-blown-2022-10-21/I'm sure by "artillery fire control" what the general really meant was "to secure and provide safety for" and it will accelerate withdrawal because Russians will just piss their pants and run away from such provided safety to the damn! Right? I need this, please lie to me some more! |
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Seems pretty clear that out of control corruption and Yanukovych refusing to sign the trade agreement were the main reasons for the revolution. Not cookies. Not even evil America. The guy was turning Ukraine into a Kleptocracy and not even bothering to pretend he wasn't.
If corruption is main reason for revolution, and it got WORSE after Yanukovych got overthrown, why we didn't see more revolutions? Could it be that corrupt money was flowing in right direction after he got overthrown, so there was no reason and no cookies? Well it didn't get worse after Yanukovych fled to Russia before being impeached and charged for treason, corruption, etc. And why do you keep bringing up cookies? Is that really the best thing you can come up with? The US ambassador handed out cookies to protestors? Ukraine wants to join NATO. NATO won't let Ukraine in as long as Putin Puppets are in power. Obviously NATO countries will support protests against Putin puppets and be happy to see them removed from power. Ukraine benefits, NATO benefits. It's really that simple. Glad we finally found someone who can speak on behalf of the whole country. Now care to provide an example of a nations that don't want to join NATO (if there are any)? Do Belarusians want to join? Serbs? Taiwanese? Australians? How much resources would it take to "convince" a small nation that they want to join NATO? Is it a stable system, if you have a hegemony and global reserve currency what can possible stop you from endless expansion and consumption of more regions? Congrats you have a solution to perpetual word at war! Possible outcomes of conflict in Ukraine, either things go how they were prior to 2014, or Ukraine enters NATO and it starts all over, world gets dragged into the same thing but now to free people in Belarus because they just want to join NATO so muuch!
I guess if the masses don't question why would Russia shoot at the nuclear power plant that it controls, let people out of Mariupol before taking it over, or blow up their own gas pipeline before it's needed the most, they won't question why would UA's Major General of Defence Intelligence Agency want to take Nova Kakhovka dam under artillery fire control, or how exactly that would accelerate Russian withdrawal? I mean people still believe that Orc's just like to shoot at themselves for fun right?? Or did CNN started to push RU propaganda? The head of Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Agency, Major Gen. Kyrylo Budanov told CNN on Wednesday, “the Russians are trying to remove and take with them all the remains of their so-called ‘occupation administration’ from Kherson city and surrounding areas.”
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Russia, he said, “realizes and understands the whole difficulty of their situation and they don’t want to be totally encircled.”
Budanov said the Russian withdrawal will accelerate when Ukraine “takes the Nova Kakhovka dam under our artillery fire control.”
“That’s why all our fighting units are moving towards both Kherson and Nova Kakhovka,” he added.
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Guys I'm a bit concerned about how centralised bsv is getting,just look at how the node count has declined to 18, at this rate I calculate bsv will be compromised within 1 year . DUMP THIS SHITCOIN NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE. You have been warned!  You're not seeing the big picture! But that's understandable, you're only human and unable to see in the 4th dimension. In fact that's 17 nodes too many for BSV. To reach it's true maximum potential it must shed itself of those 17 useless nodes and reach its singularity of 1 node, only then the bonded courier can show up with the cure for cancer, and instructions for the warp drive, because welcome to the law, ehh or something like that, it totally made sense when i did those mushrooms but seems to be wearing off now. I'm sure these guys that are still on mushrooms can explain how we're "supposed" to correctly see these things |
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Well you two got me convinced what an ingenious idea, after giving it more thought, why have a general elections in Ukraine at all?
Then it'd be like Russia and that's not a good thing. Instead Ukraine kept having elections even after one of their presidents turned out to be a massive shithead and that's a good thing (the elections, not the shithead). Oh, well now it's crystal clear, why didn't you just say that earlier...only minor detail left is to define levels of shitheadness. At what level of shitheadness should Article 111 (UA Impeachment) should be enacted (if ever) and at which you can just wipe your ass with the constitution because US cookies showed up on the streets? Yep, sounds like a totally legit democracy.
Well you two got me convinced what an ingenious idea, after giving it more thought, why have a general elections in Ukraine at all?
Then it'd be like Russia and that's not a good thing. Instead Ukraine kept having elections even after one of their presidents turned out to be a massive shithead and that's a good thing (the elections, not the shithead). By now everyone should have figured that DaRude thinks that you can treat a representative system in the same terms as a despotic one. That the police on a representative regime has the same limits than on a Dictatorship, that elections are always sham, (irrespective of having international observers and guarantees), that the only thing than matters is sheer power and being the bigger guy and accepting slavery to survive... And he believes that somehow this is because he has "more clarity" or his analysis is "more independent". How are you going to have a realistic political discussion with someone who just does not get the concept of freedom or believes that it does not exist? ... You got me! Congrats, your sarcasm detector is in top shape, nothing gets past by you! Yep cause when anyone says representative system* everyone automatically thinks of Ukraine! And very interesting choice of words, you should read up on Realpolitik. But you probably won't like one of it's main proponents Henry Kissinger's position on Ukraine either. * unless US thinks that our president is a shithead. Then with the help of their cookies, we can totally ignore our constitution and all rule of law, after a coup the most pro-US person is installed in presidents seat |
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Are you saying that you think the general population of Ukraine doesn't want to join NATO, the EU, embrace western values and instead would prefer to become part of Putins Kleptocracy?
Apparently all they want is cookies. But for some inexplicable reason Putin can't give them cookies while (allegedly) being capable of boosting Crimea's economy and the imaginary Russian side of the future split Ukraine. It's almost as if Ukrainians don't like Russian cookies. I wonder why that is. Regardless how many times you continue to repeat that, facts will continue to prove otherwise. Good luck trying to fool everyone and pretending as if Ukraine didn't pick a pro Russian president in 2010 who US/Europe and the world acknowledged (before cookies showed up 4 years later [surely pro EU president would've won next, US brought cookies to the coup cause they just couldn't wait whole 11months for a legal peaceful transition ]) Seems pretty clear that out of control corruption and Yanukovych refusing to sign the trade agreement were the main reasons for the revolution. Not cookies. Not even evil America. The guy was turning Ukraine into a Kleptocracy and not even bothering to pretend he wasn't. ... Regardless how many times you continue to repeat that, facts will continue to prove otherwise. Good luck trying to fool everyone and pretending as if Ukraine didn't pick a pro Russian president in 2010 who US/Europe and the world acknowledged (before cookies showed up 4 years later [surely pro EU president would've won next, US brought cookies to the coup cause they just couldn't wait whole 11months for a legal peaceful transition ]) Ukraine elects a pro-Russian president: "picked" Ukraine elects a non-pro-Russian president (after the aforementioned ran away): COUP! COOKIES! Despite the actual facts (not Kremlin fantasies) - like the laws Yanik tried to push through - that point to him being a wannabe-Lukashenko and trying to create a puppet totalitarian shithole for Putin. But how could Ukraine not want to be like Belarus. Unimaginable. Well you two got me convinced what an ingenious idea, after giving it more thought, why have a general elections in Ukraine at all? Whenever something clears the burden of "pretty clear" to you two judges, just have a coup and claim that majority wanted it that way, why even bother asking general population. Don't even need to follow any impeachment protocols, and if US ambassador and undersecretary of state get caught on record pushing for this, and handing out cookies to your side than that's even better. I'm sure people of Donetsk that overwhelmingly voted for their ex Governor of Donetsk Yanukovych into presidents office totally agreed with that, just tell them that he ran away to get milk 11month before reelection and never came back, who wouldn't believe that story?? Quick someone pass this genius approach to Tories in UK and January 6 commission in the US |
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... Not sure if your assessment could be anymore wrong. If you really want to solve the problem, you need to start at the root cause of the problem, and not at its symptoms. You cannot box by the rules when the other guy is twice your size and doesn't follow them, that's just not how the real world works. US having a full hegemony put in place some terrible precedence, "operations" instead of wars, private military companies, use of nukes, financial and political coercion of other governments, disregarding international laws, sanctioning international court judges, human rights abuses, bombing of other nations infrastructure without UN etc etc etc... And now when (so far) local conflict touches you personally you cannot possibly act surprised when the world doesn't rise up on your calls that NOW suddenly everyone should start to care about the rules and start changing things We're back to the ‘For my friends, everything, for my enemies, the law’ logic. Laws either have to be consistent or shouldn't exist. Arbitrary application of laws, double standards and hypocrisy just makes a mockery of the whole system. Biggest players should start following laws before trying to shame others, it's akin of discussing global police abuse and starting with Ukraine while not mentioning police issues in US/Russia/China (cause suchmoon would be yelling whataboutism). It would be obvious to even casual observer that there's agenda at play and Ukraine is being used as a scapegoat. It's an illusion, Ukraine is not big enough to hold on it's own, so it must submit to one Tzar or the other. Ukraine is already in shackles with A $20 billion programme would be the second largest currently active loan from the IMF after Argentina. All of this is outside of Ukraine's control, and i have nothing but pity for the people, as they're just pawns in this big game. But at the same time when two behemoths are battling it out, I'm very skeptical of any small nation that would willingly make itself into a battlefront proclaiming that it's protecting/fighting for the survival of one of the behemoths. Smart thing would be to stay quiet and watch how it plays out (like almost everyone else is doing). Either Grandiose delusions or people have been brainwashed into doing someone else's bidding by constant propaganda of being "de facto" in NATO and fighting for Poland/NATO/EU/Papua New Guinea/the World. Outcome is already shaping out and this is how it'll be sold to the people: - Russia-we got more land out of this and kept our dominance on EU resource markets
- US-with only few billion spent and minimal losses we set Russia back some X years
- Europe-WTF just happened!?!
- Ukraine-Sure with the great decisions by our leadership we lost more of our population and land than was even discussed and agreed to at the beginning during negotiations, but take comfort in knowing that we saved Galapagos islands, we realize that this hypothetical cannot possibly be checked, so population just needs to trust us when we say if we haven't thrown tens? hundreds? of thousands of our soldiers at this, Orcs would've taken over Lviv and Galapagos islands would be next! Hooray to great decisions!
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Human rights in middle east is shit. But now ask yourself why is it so? Then ask what is the currency in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, Jordan, UAE (Dubai), Bahrain, and Qatar? Surely they are not all pegged and completely reliant to USD couldn't be right?? Now ask yourself why there so much human rights abuse in those countries? Is that cause with total financial control US just can't do anything about it? Or because US doesn't want to do anything about it, all of the money it sends there for oil still stays in it's own financial system anyway, which US can later use to offer bigger cookie to Ukrain/Belarus/Kazakhstan/Taiwan countries surrounding other world powers. And people, people just want to live their lives and are easily influence by a talking head on their TV box offering a bigger cookie until suddenly they find themselves fighting for their lives. Now ask yourself how are your proposals for "changes" will break this cycle and prevent this from happening over and over and over... again, or are these just superficial changes really intended to just prolong the current status quo Could you please stop wall-texting to basically say nothing or state facts that are contrary to what we are seeing? Again, you have to concede to anyone that is bigger. False, when someone is bigger and you concede you become a slave. You fight, you look for allies and you let the bastard know that there hell to pay for aggression. That is what you are looking at in Ukraine. Again, you have been living for too long under despots and thieves - you have lost you will to fight and you think the rest of the people are like you. Russia diplomatic stance has been fucked. Land? It is still yet to see what do they hold to - bearing in mind that the Donbas is not even a rich region. Europe has been damaged, now it finally gets the incentive needed to diversify energy and suppliers. US is super happy of fucking Adolf Putin's army. My apologies if I do not go through all your wall... it is just repetitive and very biased. I'm sorry that you're struggling to read few lines of text, following your logic, regardless how you feel about them, you think Cuba is so much better off now that they decided to stand up and fight US? Or now you're going to explain how that's somehow completely different? Have you considered that if Europe could stay competitive while importing US freedom LNG, no one would bother to bring Georgia and Ukraine into NATO in the first place? Geography can be unfair, there are costs to hedging and sometime those costs can be prohibitive. Russia is lining up with Iran and China, enemy of my enemy thing. It would be very short sighted for US to be happy about that.
- Ukraine-Sure with the great decisions by our leadership we lost more of our population and land than was even discussed and agreed to at the beginning during negotiations, but take comfort in knowing that we saved Galapagos islands, we realize that this hypothetical cannot possibly be checked, so population just needs to trust us when we say if we haven't thrown tens? hundreds? of thousands of our soldiers at this, Orcs would've taken over Lviv and Galapagos islands would be next! Hooray to great decisions!
Or : Sure with the great decisions by our leadership, we still exist as a country, closer to the west with hope of joining EU and eventually NATO, and don't have to live in a Kleptocracy.
The whole "they should have just let Putin win" is such a stupid argument. Sure, technically such logic could still be used to explain not following Minsk agreements even if Russia takes Kyiv and capital moves to Zakarpattia. Should hold in all cases unless leadership is completely dismantled, then it's back to we were protecting NATO with out lives. I guess that's where negotiations come in all sides will need a way to sell this as a victory for their people.
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Or maybe Ukrainians just don't want to be in or with Russia, just like nearly all countries in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Soviet block. You can yell "cookies" all you want but anyone following politics in the aforementioned countries for the last 30 years could see that these countries had all sorts of issues, pendulum swings left and right, pro- and anti-EU/US/NATO etc, but most still somehow ended up on the western side of the newly-being-erected iron curtain, with exceptions being authoritarian shitholes like Belarus and the like. There are many good reasons for this, all vividly illustrated now in Ukraine. Who could have know that people might not like to be invaded and ruled by a KGB psychopath. But wait, no, it must be some evil US plot. Maybe Clinton installed Putin back in 1999 and is puppeting him into doing all these evil things. Just need to oppress other continents/countries to channel the cookies to the "right" places to keep up their standard of living, what idiot wouldn't want to be on the cookie receiving side?!?! To rip the benefit you just need to make sure to be born in the right place closer to the demarcation line. I'm sure your set commitments won't let you agree to that, so let's try to relate to Crimea, surely you'd agree that lots of money was channeled to that region to make it more "appealing" most likely at a cost of other regions. That's how geopolitics work, and the benefit of hegemony is the ability to do that on a much larger scale, bigger cookies with bigger oppression. If Ukraine is to be split you can be sure that both sides of Ukraine will benefit generously from both world powers and receive creme de la creme at cost of others, as both sides need to make an example out of it Are you saying that you think the general population of Ukraine doesn't want to join NATO, the EU, embrace western values and instead would prefer to become part of Putins Kleptocracy? It's a loaded question, your phrasing makes it rhetorical. e.g. Would majority like to live in Luxembourg or in Siberia without central plumbing. Or would majority prefer to live in Moldova with ~10% of population in absolute poverty or in Crimea? Speculating that what general population thinks it wants would directly correlate to the mass media covering their region. That is, regions with UA media coverage are probably brainwashed to think that they'll become next Germany just if they join EU, and RU coverage side probably believes that they'll have no poverty, cheap resources, cheap education, stability, family values etc... To be realistic, i don't think any country can be successful and share a boarder with a super power while being anti that super power. Essentially it would be a ticking time bomb, look at Cuba/Taiwan, history shows that no power would accept that in it's "backyard" and they're dooming themselves into perpetual struggle and first point for any conflict. Plus direct proximity naturally leads to intermarriage, mixed families, language culture etc... Honestly best outcome would've been a buffer state, neutral like Switzerland used to be, but seeing how we're reaching the pinnacle of escalations that ship might've already sailed.
Are you saying that you think the general population of Ukraine doesn't want to join NATO, the EU, embrace western values and instead would prefer to become part of Putins Kleptocracy?
Apparently all they want is cookies. But for some inexplicable reason Putin can't give them cookies while (allegedly) being capable of boosting Crimea's economy and the imaginary Russian side of the future split Ukraine. It's almost as if Ukrainians don't like Russian cookies. I wonder why that is. Regardless how many times you continue to repeat that, facts will continue to prove otherwise. Good luck trying to fool everyone and pretending as if Ukraine didn't pick a pro Russian president in 2010 who US/Europe and the world acknowledged (before cookies showed up 4 years later [surely pro EU president would've won next, US brought cookies to the coup cause they just couldn't wait whole 11months for a legal peaceful transition ])  |
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reckless US foreign policy in Ukraine Anyone who makes that statement without equally mentioning that Russia has sent troops to shoot families and do worse, rocket random cities across the country and therefore is ever so slightly reckless; they are either on the payroll or hoping to garner citizenship and favor for some reason. Theres always the possibility of being a complete idiot also. Nobody is winning this war, they are both losing troops, people, money, resources. 9000 troops are further ready to cross the Belarus border and add to the waste and destruction that will aid nobody and make no progress in ending the war, all for nothing. Think they tried to justify global nuclear escalations as a necessity and humanitarian help to save civilians or even genocide angle, but apparently it didn't resonate well with the portion of the population that could count. From 24 February 2022, when the Russian Federation’s armed attack against Ukraine started, to 9 October 2022, the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) recorded 15,592 civilian casualties in the country: 6,221 killed and 9,371 injured https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/ukraine-civilian-casualties-2400-9-october-2022-enruukThat's from both sides, I'll leave the debate about percentage allocated to Russia for others Yemen war will have killed 377,000 by year's end: UN
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Nearly 60 percent of deaths will have been caused by indirect impacts such as lack of safe water, hunger and disease, it said, suggesting that fighting will have directly killed over 150,000 people.
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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20211123-yemen-war-will-have-killed-377-000-by-year-s-end-un2017 U.S. nears $100 billion arms deal for Saudi Arabia: White House official https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-saudi-idUSKBN18832NThen people with critical thinking started raising questions why the whole world is once again coming to a brink of a nuclear war, which no one really wanted to answer  Edit: |
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- Ukraine-Sure with the great decisions by our leadership we lost more of our population and land than was even discussed and agreed to at the beginning during negotiations, but take comfort in knowing that we saved Galapagos islands, we realize that this hypothetical cannot possibly be checked, so population just needs to trust us when we say if we haven't thrown tens? hundreds? of thousands of our soldiers at this, Orcs would've taken over Lviv and Galapagos islands would be next! Hooray to great decisions!
Or : Sure with the great decisions by our leadership, we still exist as a country, closer to the west with hope of joining EU and eventually NATO, and don't have to live in a Kleptocracy.
The whole "they should have just let Putin win" is such a stupid argument. Sure, technically such logic could still be used to explain not following Minsk agreements even if Russia takes Kyiv and capital moves to Zakarpattia. Should hold in all cases unless leadership is completely dismantled, then it's back to we were protecting NATO with out lives. I guess that's where negotiations come in all sides will need a way to sell this as a victory for their people.
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Or maybe Ukrainians just don't want to be in or with Russia, just like nearly all countries in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Soviet block. You can yell "cookies" all you want but anyone following politics in the aforementioned countries for the last 30 years could see that these countries had all sorts of issues, pendulum swings left and right, pro- and anti-EU/US/NATO etc, but most still somehow ended up on the western side of the newly-being-erected iron curtain, with exceptions being authoritarian shitholes like Belarus and the like. There are many good reasons for this, all vividly illustrated now in Ukraine. Who could have know that people might not like to be invaded and ruled by a KGB psychopath. But wait, no, it must be some evil US plot. Maybe Clinton installed Putin back in 1999 and is puppeting him into doing all these evil things. Just need to oppress other continents/countries to channel the cookies to the "right" places to keep up their standard of living, what idiot wouldn't want to be on the cookie receiving side?!?! To rip the benefit you just need to make sure to be born in the right place closer to the demarcation line. I'm sure your set commitments won't let you agree to that, so let's try to relate to Crimea, surely you'd agree that lots of money was channeled to that region to make it more "appealing" most likely at a cost of other regions. That's how geopolitics work, and the benefit of hegemony is the ability to do that on a much larger scale, bigger cookies with bigger oppression. If Ukraine is to be split you can be sure that both sides of Ukraine will benefit generously from both world powers and receive creme de la creme at cost of others, as both sides need to make an example out of it |
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The world’s largest stablecoin issuer said Thursday it has moved all its commercial paper holdings into U.S. Treasuries.
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Since July 1, Tether (USDT) has exchanged approximately $3.5 billion of unidentified unsecured corporate notes or commercial paper for T-bills https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stablecoin-tether-treasuries-195127396.htmlShocked! Just shocked i tell you. US found someone with $68B in market cap to support its debt. I'm guessing after such deal US Department of Treasury will let Tether live, and North Korea can now get exposure to US T-bills by this proxy. Tether, the centralized part in the "decentralized" © |
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... Right now we're pretending to not know the difference between old Soviet junk and modern tanks? But please entertain us with your version of why NATO is not sending modern tanks to UA? Perhaps they're too busy playing Dota? Or requests just keep getting lost? Or they can send millions of 155mm shells but logistics to send tanks are just too hard? Or they're secret RU Orcs too?
It's the same old Soviet junk that Russia is planning to win the war with, or better. I still don't know why you're so obsessed with tanks - or only specific brands of tanks - as if that constitutes a worse threat to Russia than e.g. HIMARS, but Russia already lost a shitload of tanks (being captured or destroyed by Ukraine) and can't make anymore, so it doesn't really take a math genius to see where the balance shifting. Sure let's extend all this effort for a high probability of a worse outcome? Worked so great in Afghanistan and Libya right?
I think you've missed the point. There is no "good" outcome. Let's say Putin takes Ukraine. Then he wants Poland. The whole thing starts over, just much worse. Right how mobilized Russians with previous combat experience could possibly compare with super mega ultra warrior conscripts of Ukraine and super sober uber special forces of the 8th? mobilization wave of Ukraine? Not the best of your straw people. I'm talking about the Russian forces. The 200k invasion army was supposedly better trained and better equipped and had other advantages like robust air support and still functioning supply lines. What happened to those soldiers? No one cares, let's throw another 300k into it, just with less of everything, and see how that works out. Maybe shift some generals around, yeah, that'll do it. Pretty much spot on. He takes Crimea, then Easter Ukraine and the Fakepublics of the Dombas, then a corridor to the Fakepublic of Transnistria, they liberating the oppressed Russian living un Hungary, then a corridor to Konigsberg, ... From the European perspective, this has to end here and now. From the Ukrainian perspective, they do not want to be drafted as slaves, not having to survive the next Holodomor nor be the buffer for Putin's aggressions. And believe that some of the fighters in Ukraine speak well of the Commies, so Adolf Putin must have gotten something really wrong here. Regarding soviet equipment, some people say that it is running thin, my personal take is that there is still a lot of rusty old iron. It is not fit for a modern war, but it kills when used and they do have a shitload of it. The issue is if in modern RF there is still space for a forceful recruiting of an army of slaves - Adolf Putin may have gotten that wrong too. Haha this is a good spin, NATO playing a victim card, original! Russia is down to bare bones of RU speaking Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Belarus. So if NATO doesn't expand to these countries right now that would be a gateway to RU taking over Ireland or Canada next! are we hoping that no one here has mental capacity to remember 2013 when UA had a pro RU president and that Transnistria has been with RU since 1990s and no one cared for that anymore than for Belarus president being the last European dictator ... Again, an historic argument that does not matter at all because you cannot get out the middle-age thinking of "this belong to Russia", "This territory was Russia when my grandad lived there..." The territories belong to the people who live in them, the fakeferendums can only create fakepublics. Ukraine is trying to get away from the world of Tzars and Kings that held the land as a personal possession. You need to get on a time machine and get back to the XII century where your brain is. While you wait for it to be invented, you can just travel back in this thread where those arguments have been shown wrong over an over - starting by the fact that the origin of the Rus (modern Russians) is Kiev. ... Last i checked almost 1000km line of engagement still stands with RU even making some progress in some sections
You're cute when you don't have a counter argument  perhaps add a picture of burning Russian tank next time to really drive home your point? The picture is a clear argument. Russian slave orcs are going to Moscow ... just for a coffee Boris... yes, back in no time. As much as it's middle-age thinking you cannot deny that it's current reality. Cuba is still under US blockade just because of it's proximity to US, and US considering sanctions against Saudi Arabia not because they kill journalists and oppress women but because they didn't lower oil price and agreed to buyers cartel before November mid-term US elections (not to mention North Korea, Venezuela, Syria ...). You can even block deliveries of resources between separate countries, Germany even wanted to give US 1bil just for the privilege to turn on NordStream2, pretty savage right? Sorry to break this to you but this is how this cruel world still works, just because it's called soft power doesn't mean it doesn't cost lives, that's the benefit of being the world power and having reserve currency, you literally get to fuck around with anyone on this planet. Another sorrowful base argument: you cannot change anything, this is the way it works so you have to live with it. You may have been living under a despot for too long to see anything else. Or even a worse one: "since you cannot always implement socially liberal and representative policies, then is better to not do it ever". That is your bottom line. Yet here we are, people in Ukraine that are not willing to submit to the Tzar. That is real, you have it there. Medieval thinking does not work well in the Internet era. You view is very partial and certainly you are not discovering anything, just trying to make Adolf Putin's attitude "the only possible course of action" - which certainly is not. You are putting the focus on countries that are ruled by despots because that is what you understand, but most of the developed world is based on representative governments (I do not want to discuss how democratic). And yes, we do have to live with Kings and Tzars and have diplomatic and commercial relations with them, but at least some of us want to press to make those regimes eventually representative. Whattabout the Kingdom of Arabia? They are using the chance to favour their economy with disregard of their allies. There is price to pay. Nothing to do with their record as slavery and human rights abuse. Let me ask you a question: How are human resources for construction works organised in Arabia, Oman, Dubai and EA? Do you know how they do it? Do you think "that's the world it is and there is nothing to be done?" Not sure if your assessment could be anymore wrong. If you really want to solve the problem, you need to start at the root cause of the problem, and not at its symptoms. You cannot box by the rules when the other guy is twice your size and doesn't follow them, that's just not how the real world works. US having a full hegemony put in place some terrible precedence, "operations" instead of wars, private military companies, use of nukes, financial and political coercion of other governments, disregarding international laws, sanctioning international court judges, human rights abuses, bombing of other nations infrastructure without UN etc etc etc... And now when (so far) local conflict touches you personally you cannot possibly act surprised when the world doesn't rise up on your calls that NOW suddenly everyone should start to care about the rules and start changing things We're back to the ‘For my friends, everything, for my enemies, the law’ logic. Laws either have to be consistent or shouldn't exist. Arbitrary application of laws, double standards and hypocrisy just makes a mockery of the whole system. Biggest players should start following laws before trying to shame others, it's akin of discussing global police abuse and starting with Ukraine while not mentioning police issues in US/Russia/China (cause suchmoon would be yelling whataboutism). It would be obvious to even casual observer that there's agenda at play and Ukraine is being used as a scapegoat. It's an illusion, Ukraine is not big enough to hold on it's own, so it must submit to one Tzar or the other. Ukraine is already in shackles with A $20 billion programme would be the second largest currently active loan from the IMF after Argentina. All of this is outside of Ukraine's control, and i have nothing but pity for the people, as they're just pawns in this big game. But at the same time when two behemoths are battling it out, I'm very skeptical of any small nation that would willingly make itself into a battlefront proclaiming that it's protecting/fighting for the survival of one of the behemoths. Smart thing would be to stay quiet and watch how it plays out (like almost everyone else is doing). Either Grandiose delusions or people have been brainwashed into doing someone else's bidding by constant propaganda of being "de facto" in NATO and fighting for Poland/NATO/EU/Papua New Guinea/the World. Outcome is already shaping out and this is how it'll be sold to the people: - Russia-we got more land out of this and kept our dominance on EU resource markets
- US-with only few billion spent and minimal losses we set Russia back some X years
- Europe-WTF just happened!?!
- Ukraine-Sure with the great decisions by our leadership we lost more of our population and land than was even discussed and agreed to at the beginning during negotiations, but take comfort in knowing that we saved Galapagos islands, we realize that this hypothetical cannot possibly be checked, so population just needs to trust us when we say if we haven't thrown tens? hundreds? of thousands of our soldiers at this, Orcs would've taken over Lviv and Galapagos islands would be next! Hooray to great decisions!
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Human rights in middle east is shit. But now ask yourself why is it so? Then ask what is the currency in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, Jordan, UAE (Dubai), Bahrain, and Qatar? Surely they are not all pegged and completely reliant to USD couldn't be right?? Now ask yourself why there so much human rights abuse in those countries? Is that cause with total financial control US just can't do anything about it? Or because US doesn't want to do anything about it, all of the money it sends there for oil still stays in it's own financial system anyway, which US can later use to offer bigger cookie to Ukrain/Belarus/Kazakhstan/Taiwan countries surrounding other world powers. And people, people just want to live their lives and are easily influence by a talking head on their TV box offering a bigger cookie until suddenly they find themselves fighting for their lives. Now ask yourself how are your proposals for "changes" will break this cycle and prevent this from happening over and over and over... again, or are these just superficial changes really intended to just prolong the current status quo |
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... Right now we're pretending to not know the difference between old Soviet junk and modern tanks? But please entertain us with your version of why NATO is not sending modern tanks to UA? Perhaps they're too busy playing Dota? Or requests just keep getting lost? Or they can send millions of 155mm shells but logistics to send tanks are just too hard? Or they're secret RU Orcs too?
It's the same old Soviet junk that Russia is planning to win the war with, or better. I still don't know why you're so obsessed with tanks - or only specific brands of tanks - as if that constitutes a worse threat to Russia than e.g. HIMARS, but Russia already lost a shitload of tanks (being captured or destroyed by Ukraine) and can't make anymore, so it doesn't really take a math genius to see where the balance shifting. Sure let's extend all this effort for a high probability of a worse outcome? Worked so great in Afghanistan and Libya right?
I think you've missed the point. There is no "good" outcome. Let's say Putin takes Ukraine. Then he wants Poland. The whole thing starts over, just much worse. Right how mobilized Russians with previous combat experience could possibly compare with super mega ultra warrior conscripts of Ukraine and super sober uber special forces of the 8th? mobilization wave of Ukraine? Not the best of your straw people. I'm talking about the Russian forces. The 200k invasion army was supposedly better trained and better equipped and had other advantages like robust air support and still functioning supply lines. What happened to those soldiers? No one cares, let's throw another 300k into it, just with less of everything, and see how that works out. Maybe shift some generals around, yeah, that'll do it. Pretty much spot on. He takes Crimea, then Easter Ukraine and the Fakepublics of the Dombas, then a corridor to the Fakepublic of Transnistria, they liberating the oppressed Russian living un Hungary, then a corridor to Konigsberg, ... From the European perspective, this has to end here and now. From the Ukrainian perspective, they do not want to be drafted as slaves, not having to survive the next Holodomor nor be the buffer for Putin's aggressions. And believe that some of the fighters in Ukraine speak well of the Commies, so Adolf Putin must have gotten something really wrong here. Regarding soviet equipment, some people say that it is running thin, my personal take is that there is still a lot of rusty old iron. It is not fit for a modern war, but it kills when used and they do have a shitload of it. The issue is if in modern RF there is still space for a forceful recruiting of an army of slaves - Adolf Putin may have gotten that wrong too. Haha this is a good spin, NATO playing a victim card, original! Russia is down to bare bones of RU speaking Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Belarus. So if NATO doesn't expand to these countries right now that would be a gateway to RU taking over Ireland or Canada next! are we hoping that no one here has mental capacity to remember 2013 when UA had a pro RU president and that Transnistria has been with RU since 1990s and no one cared for that anymore than for Belarus president being the last European dictator ... Again, an historic argument that does not matter at all because you cannot get out the middle-age thinking of "this belong to Russia", "This territory was Russia when my grandad lived there..." The territories belong to the people who live in them, the fakeferendums can only create fakepublics. Ukraine is trying to get away from the world of Tzars and Kings that held the land as a personal possession. You need to get on a time machine and get back to the XII century where your brain is. While you wait for it to be invented, you can just travel back in this thread where those arguments have been shown wrong over an over - starting by the fact that the origin of the Rus (modern Russians) is Kiev. ... Last i checked almost 1000km line of engagement still stands with RU even making some progress in some sections
You're cute when you don't have a counter argument perhaps add a picture of burning Russian tank next time to really drive home your point? The picture is a clear argument. Russian slave orcs are going to Moscow ... just for a coffee Boris... yes, back in no time. As much as it's middle-age thinking you cannot deny that it's current reality. Cuba is still under US blockade just because of it's proximity to US, and US considering sanctions against Saudi Arabia not because they kill journalists and oppress women but because they didn't lower oil price and agreed to buyers cartel before November mid-term US elections (not to mention North Korea, Venezuela, Syria ...). You can even block deliveries of resources between separate countries, Germany even wanted to give US 1bil just for the privilege to turn on NordStream2, pretty savage right? Sorry to break this to you but this is how this cruel world still works, just because it's called soft power doesn't mean it doesn't cost lives, that's the benefit of being the world power and having reserve currency, you literally get to fuck around with anyone on this planet. |
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If you like Zelensky, you'll love his request for NATO to start a nuclear war. Why does he want the nukes to fly? Because he is failing against Russia in Ukraine.
Who is this Ukraine joker, anyway... who wants world nuclear war? Doesn't he realize that any scenario he dreams up, has already been thought of in Russia and all around the world?
How about the scenario where Russia fails to kill him, fails to take Kiev, gets their main battleship Sunk, Crimean bridge blown up, and after a bunch of other embarrassments finds itself on defense losing territory they thought they had secured last for good last spring, and now forced to mobilize 9 months after starting the thing they thought wouldn't even be a war by invading Ukraine . You think Putin thought of that scenario? Doesn't seem like it. Putin was obviously wrong when he calculated that Biden won't risk nuclear war similar to Khruschev over Cuba missiles. He also calculated that EU is not such vassal state to USA. He seems intent to recalculate and fix his errors Or maybe US intelligence has figured out that Russias Nuclear Arsenal Maintenance fund has been diverted to the Oligarch Mega Yacht and Ski Chalet fund for the past 20 years. Kleptocracy has it's downsides - which is the main reason Ukraine booted Putins buddy Yanukovych. Yes let's all trust US intelligence, after all they have such excellent track record. Thank you for supporting my previous point, great example of UA supporters pushing for a nuclear war. If you're feeling extra lucky today perhaps it's best you play a lottery instead of attempting to argue for a nuclear Armageddon, would give you better odds too!  When you're thinking about all the evil America did in the past decades, and doing those mental triple back flips to get to the place where all those bad things make Russia justified in starting a war with Ukraine, does Stalin ever pop into your head? The guy just rounded up hundreds or thousands of people at a time...and executed them. Almost 1 million citizens of his own country were executed. He intentionally caused multiple famines that killed millions of Ukrainians. 10's of millions of people were murdered on his orders. For an American President to come close to matching the amount of pain and suffering that Stalin intentionally caused, they would have to first seize pretty much all political power. And even then, it would take years to get to the level that Stalin did. That hasn't happened yet to America. It could start to happen some day...but it hasn't yet. Appears it's started to happen in Russia though. I'm not able to follow your logic here, you went from alluding that Russian nukes are non functional to Stalin? Where's suchmoon yelling whataboutism!?! To reiterate my point, i view this conflict as just further expansion of NATO, or more specifically, US trying to pull Ukraine from Russia's sphere of influence with soft power (handing out freedom cookies during the coup of pro RU president in 2014). Everyone knew that there was no way Russia could compete with US on the soft power field, and that Russia couldn't afford to loose Ukraine, so doesn't take a political think tank to figure out the odds of tanks rolling. Germany and France did a good job and managed to stop Russian tanks from rolling back in 2014 and convinced UA to sign Minsk agreements which would ultimately mean Donbas would stay with Russia. Ukraine agreed, won some time which US used to litter the country with weapons, after receiving all the weapons UA did a 180 turn and started to pretend that now they can take Crimea back. RU finally started to realize that they were played, demanded written guarantees from US that NATO won't expand etc... and US pretty much told RU to fuck off, finally as a last ditch effort to make its intentions crystal clear RU did that idiotic show of force with a column of tanks to Kyiv, we all know how that turned out. So now here we are, was this the desired outcome for EU or RU? Clearly not, as both expected UA to just fold in 3 days of posturing, instead we now have this prolonged conflict ultimately leading to even worse outcome for UA but now with greater lose of life from both sides. On the other hand appears US has so far fully anticipated every move from Russia. I covered Stalin and Mao in my thread before, the goals of their actions was transformation of their countries' political and economic systems (collectivization etc). Such actions can only be viewed through the cost/benefit analysis, and it is my view that the benefit was not worth the cost, so i'm personally not a fan of Stalin. Unfortunately propaganda tries to deceive the uneducated masses and attempt to draw comparisons to where there was no to limited cost or benefit. Like since Stalin caused death of many people, and Hitler caused death of many people thus Stalin is as bad as Hitler. This leads us to equate tragic loss of life in the name of radical transformations of the whole system to deliberate exterminations with no real benefit and in the name of ethnic/national/racial cleansing and superiority of the Aryan race above all. Even attempts at such horrendous comparisons, should automatically repulse anyone with an IQ higher than a rock. But back to your point, besides propaganda value I don't see how any of this is even relevant? Trying to compare historical "evilness" is more of a philosophical question, how many deaths of exterminated native Americans is equal to own workers worked to death? Or how many lives of innocent civilians nuked with a press of a button during their sleep equal to farmers starved to death? How many slaves killed just for being an "inferior human being" equal to ideological opponents or enemies of the state frozen at gulags? etc etc etc
Are you intentionally ignoring the fact that tanks have consistently been the top request from UA, which so far has been ignored by US/EU? Oh we can't have them? Well, then we never wanted them anyway  That doesn't explain why delivery of tanks would justify a nuclear response but whatever. I never expected logic from Russian propaganda so carry on. Mexico
Cuba
Taiwan
China
India
Makes me wonder if you got confused which thread you're posting in or is it just a larger-than-usual dose of whataboutism. Anyway, after 8 months of killing predominantly Russian-speaking population it should be clear by now that Putin didn't come there to protect the Russian language but if you want to keep living in that illusion that's fine. For sane people though, all that BS doesn't mean that Ukraine can just roll over and Putin will magically become nice and friendly and will no longer threaten or invade other countries like Georgia or Moldova. That's why Ukraine is being supported in this fight and Russia is becoming a pariah state. Last i checked almost 1000km line of engagement still stands with RU even making some progress in some sections
Must've been a long time since you last checked it, let me help you.  (maps from https://liveuamap.com) You're cute when you don't have a counter argument perhaps add a picture of burning Russian tank next time to really drive home your point? |
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Right now we're pretending to not know the difference between old Soviet junk and modern tanks? But please entertain us with your version of why NATO is not sending modern tanks to UA? Perhaps they're too busy playing Dota? Or requests just keep getting lost? Or they can send millions of 155mm shells but logistics to send tanks are just too hard? Or they're secret RU Orcs too?
It's the same old Soviet junk that Russia is planning to win the war with, or better. I still don't know why you're so obsessed with tanks - or only specific brands of tanks - as if that constitutes a worse threat to Russia than e.g. HIMARS, but Russia already lost a shitload of tanks (being captured or destroyed by Ukraine) and can't make anymore, so it doesn't really take a math genius to see where the balance shifting. Sure let's extend all this effort for a high probability of a worse outcome? Worked so great in Afghanistan and Libya right?
I think you've missed the point. There is no "good" outcome. Let's say Putin takes Ukraine. Then he wants Poland. The whole thing starts over, just much worse. Right how mobilized Russians with previous combat experience could possibly compare with super mega ultra warrior conscripts of Ukraine and super sober uber special forces of the 8th? mobilization wave of Ukraine? Not the best of your straw people. I'm talking about the Russian forces. The 200k invasion army was supposedly better trained and better equipped and had other advantages like robust air support and still functioning supply lines. What happened to those soldiers? No one cares, let's throw another 300k into it, just with less of everything, and see how that works out. Maybe shift some generals around, yeah, that'll do it. Are you intentionally ignoring the fact that tanks have consistently been the top request from UA, which so far has been ignored by US/EU? Oh we can't have them? Well, then we never wanted them anyway Sure, powers will always want to expand their spheres of influence, Russia might want Mexico but just like US wanting Ukraine, doesn't mean they should get it. (And that's the reason why China's claims on Taiwan are inevitable and only a function of time. No first world power would tolerate 2nd world power in their backyard from across the globe [see Cuba]) And if Russia is depleting they military reserves by sending them to Mexico i'd be in here arguing that Russia has no business using Mexico as their proxy, and you can be sure that US would be talking about nukes 24/7 [again see Cuba] . As far as i'm aware there are no regions in Poland where majority speak Russian language and consistently votes for pro-Putin president. Now if there were (widely accepted) elections and a pro Russian president would be elected, only to be removed in a coup with US freedom cookies, than things might be different. But as usual you're conveniently trying to compare UA to a NATO country. Pretty sure EU would be ecstatic to see things go back as they were in 2013, growing GDP, high and improving standards of living, fast-track visas with Russia with discussion of visa-free entries, access to cheap Russian resources which lets them stay competitive with China/India/US, and discussions about expanding RU resource deliveries and approving NordStream2 securing competitiveness for years to come doesn't sound like too bad of the outcome? Surely you must realize the reason for all those guaranteed buy back clauses when companies leave Russia always have to leave the door open, just in case  Last i checked almost 1000km line of engagement still stands with RU even making some progress in some sections, surely someone is manning it or who is UA fighting against there currently? But to your point, obviously in almost 8 months of fighting both sides have lost a lot of their best units, only UA side lost a lot of its conscripts and mobilized force as well, where Russia just started to mobilize. You can pretend that mobilized UA forces of the Xth wave are somehow more "sober" or elite than the first mobilized wave of RU soldiers but that's just amusing propaganda to anyone with a brain cell.
Right now we're pretending to not know the difference between old Soviet junk and modern tanks? But please entertain us with your version of why NATO is not sending modern tanks to UA? Perhaps they're too busy playing Dota? Or requests just keep getting lost? Or they can send millions of 155mm shells but logistics to send tanks are just too hard? Or they're secret RU Orcs too?
It's the same old Soviet junk that Russia is planning to win the war with, or better. I still don't know why you're so obsessed with tanks - or only specific brands of tanks - as if that constitutes a worse threat to Russia than e.g. HIMARS, but Russia already lost a shitload of tanks (being captured or destroyed by Ukraine) and can't make anymore, so it doesn't really take a math genius to see where the balance shifting. Sure let's extend all this effort for a high probability of a worse outcome? Worked so great in Afghanistan and Libya right?
I think you've missed the point. There is no "good" outcome. Let's say Putin takes Ukraine. Then he wants Poland. The whole thing starts over, just much worse. Right how mobilized Russians with previous combat experience could possibly compare with super mega ultra warrior conscripts of Ukraine and super sober uber special forces of the 8th? mobilization wave of Ukraine? Not the best of your straw people. I'm talking about the Russian forces. The 200k invasion army was supposedly better trained and better equipped and had other advantages like robust air support and still functioning supply lines. What happened to those soldiers? No one cares, let's throw another 300k into it, just with less of everything, and see how that works out. Maybe shift some generals around, yeah, that'll do it. Pretty much spot on. He takes Crimea, then Easter Ukraine and the Fakepublics of the Dombas, then a corridor to the Fakepublic of Transnistria, they liberating the oppressed Russian living un Hungary, then a corridor to Konigsberg, ... From the European perspective, this has to end here and now. From the Ukrainian perspective, they do not want to be drafted as slaves, not having to survive the next Holodomor nor be the buffer for Putin's aggressions. And believe that some of the fighters in Ukraine speak well of the Commies, so Adolf Putin must have gotten something really wrong here. Regarding soviet equipment, some people say that it is running thin, my personal take is that there is still a lot of rusty old iron. It is not fit for a modern war, but it kills when used and they do have a shitload of it. The issue is if in modern RF there is still space for a forceful recruiting of an army of slaves - Adolf Putin may have gotten that wrong too. Haha this is a good spin, NATO playing a victim card, original! Russia is down to bare bones of RU speaking Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Belarus. So if NATO doesn't expand to these countries right now that would be a gateway to RU taking over Ireland or Canada next! are we hoping that no one here has mental capacity to remember 2013 when UA had a pro RU president and that Transnistria has been with RU since 1990s and no one cared for that anymore than for Belarus president being the last European dictator
...In a nuclear war there is no winner. The first strike is guaranteed to be followed by a response (it could even not be a nuke, but certainly proportional and devastating)... and from there nobody knows...
Can we stop pretending that instead of protecting its members NATO countries signed up to start a nuclear Armageddon for any tactical nuclear blast in any country around the globe? I realize that that's what UA has been desperately asking for but literally no NATO general or leader of ANY NATO country agreed to anything close to that. That's not how article 5 works
RU nuke attack in UA != RU nuke attack on NATO
Edit: I'm not saying RU should nuke UA, and i'm against all nuke attacks, but distinction must be made ... False, a response to a nuclear attack does not necessarily have to be nuclear, that has been stated over an over. It has been described as "devastating" but most likely conventional. The ICBMs are not the only nuclear option and the nuclear response is not only not the only option, it is not even the best to achieve a deterrent for tactical nukes from Russia. Do you know that the tactical nuke arsenal in US is barely 200 units, like 10 times less than RF's? At the risk of repeating myself, I am going to quote my post. Notice that it is PREVIOUS to the Kerch bridge being destroyed.
The scenarios being considered are not around the ICBMs,
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Please notice that "effective" and "efficient" in this context means that they can blast expensive and critical target with precision and certainty.
I am sure you can add 1+1 Sure, is a strongly worded condemnation, and another batch of sanctions against Putin's dogs would be any less devastating than any previous devastating batches of sanctions? March 10, 2022 Russia’s economy will be ‘devastated’ by sanctions and further sanctions are under consideration, Janet Yellen says https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/10/economy/sanctions-russia-janet-yellen/index.htmlThat's cause tactical nukes are pretty useless just as their non-nuke alternatives, if we ever find ourselves in a position where 10 tactical nukes are not enough for either side we all already lost. And don't fool yourself if US is openly blasting expensive and critical RU targets humanity has already lost as well, small undercover games will continue from both sides just as they have been for many years prior.
If you like Zelensky, you'll love his request for NATO to start a nuclear war. Why does he want the nukes to fly? Because he is failing against Russia in Ukraine.
Who is this Ukraine joker, anyway... who wants world nuclear war? Doesn't he realize that any scenario he dreams up, has already been thought of in Russia and all around the world?
How about the scenario where Russia fails to kill him, fails to take Kiev, gets their main battleship Sunk, Crimean bridge blown up, and after a bunch of other embarrassments finds itself on defense losing territory they thought they had secured last for good last spring, and now forced to mobilize 9 months after starting the thing they thought wouldn't even be a war by invading Ukraine . You think Putin thought of that scenario? Doesn't seem like it. Putin was obviously wrong when he calculated that Biden won't risk nuclear war similar to Khruschev over Cuba missiles. He also calculated that EU is not such vassal state to USA. He seems intent to recalculate and fix his errors Or maybe US intelligence has figured out that Russias Nuclear Arsenal Maintenance fund has been diverted to the Oligarch Mega Yacht and Ski Chalet fund for the past 20 years. Kleptocracy has it's downsides - which is the main reason Ukraine booted Putins buddy Yanukovych. Yes let's all trust US intelligence, after all they have such excellent track record. Thank you for supporting my previous point, great example of UA supporters pushing for a nuclear war. If you're feeling extra lucky today perhaps it's best you play a lottery instead of attempting to argue for a nuclear Armageddon, would give you better odds too! |
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Central bank offers to buy inflation-linked government bonds after earlier efforts to quell selloff fell short
LONDON—The Bank of England extended support targeted at pension funds for the second day in a row, the latest attempt to contain a bond-market selloff that has threatened U.K. financial stability.
The central bank on Tuesday said it would add inflation-linked government bonds to its program of long-dated bond purchases, after an attempt on Monday to help pension funds failed to calm markets.
“Dysfunction in this market, and the prospect of self-reinforcing ‘fire sale’ dynamics pose a material risk to U.K. financial stability,” the BOE said...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/boe-adds-index-linked-gilts-to-bond-purchase-program-11665470476 You got anymore of them bitcoins?  |
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... All a bunch of shite and unnecessary loss of life.
That's what every single war is. We obviously have not yet evolved to the point where we no longer greed for the property/land/subordination of other humans. According to Hobbes this is the state of nature - the war of all against all. He also said (freely translated from my German version) that humankind is the only form of life who takes an immense pleasure from watching other creatures having less (comfort, resources, riches etc.). For us humans it's never about having more than enough, it's about having more than others - no matter how plentiful it is already what you have. While this virtue made humankind fly to the moon (before others) it too is and will be what finally will get us all (or most of us) purged from that blue marble. War is the normal for humans, it is only interrupted by short periods of peace. We were just a relatively lucky generation (until now). Right now I do not so much think about where the next bull run peaks, I am more concerned if I/we will still be here to enjoy that peak as things escalate so quickly all around currently and there are enough players at the table taking profit from that situation which makes further escalations very likely. The ones who do not die in wars get to live on and carry the torch of human evolution. Hopefully we survive until then as a species. But the chances are extremely low. But with every day that humans do not wipe each other out, the chances get a little higher, day by day. That only works if the rotten apples let their life and the fine people survive. I fear the rotten apples are the ones sending the fine people to war, letting them starve, freeze etc. Also the longer it goes on, the more humans we get and the easier it will become to lit up that giant powder keg called humanity. Kinda glass half-full / half-empty point of view I guess. Obviously my glass is half-empty. But that doesn't make me a pessimist, I am simply drinking too much too quickly I on the other hand am a realist. Wars might be a phenomenon of natural evolution. Its an old relic of natural law. Improving the attribute of self-preservation on a genetic basis is what is keeping us from becoming extinct as a species. Ultimately it's a power struggle, and just like in nature, the only way to establish dominance is to physically challenge current status quo/current alpha male. I was giving it some thought but the only way i could think of avoiding it (while keeping testosterone) is with some form of world government, might be doable but would definitely open up a Pandora's box. I don't think willing extinction is a natural state, so the only way it can come about is under extreme duress or an accident. UN is a good idea to handle extreme situations, and accidents of course are at the whim of our ingenuity (just like constantly improving ways to rid this blue marble of ourselves). |
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