There isn't any hostility between XMR and BBR. Risto was simply saying that BBR (or any other cryptonote) could be just as vulnerable as they all came from the same codebase.


Anyone who talks about Monero "fanbois" being negative toward BBR is spreading FUD and fueling a fire that largely doesn't exist. CZ and XMR devs communicate regularly. Quit attacking strawmen.

 OR that BBR insider(s) are behind the attack.

I got also in touch with HitBtc, urging them to stop withdrawals and trading. Further, I offered my time to help the Monero devs. I also decided to keep the options markets open so you can still hedge (although I am afk for the next 6 hours mostly).

This thread and poloniex trollbox are very full of otherwise not so prominent or active people that are now speaking doom concerning XMR. If they don't short it themselves (difficult), they either get paid for the FUD, or want the price to tank to buy back lower. Otherwise it does not make sense.

It has even been mentioned that BBR should increase in price as a result from an attack towards XMR code (which BBR itself also uses). This proposal is ridiculous, because either it has the same vulnerability and the attack was just directed to the more prominent coin, or BBR will suffer the same attack soon or be already suffering it without even noticing, OR that BBR insider(s) are behind the attack.

Note to newcomers: BBR is the only (non-XMR) cryptonote coin that is not conclusively proven to be lead by the original CN scamteam

Any way I got in touch with XMR devs, result:
- no rollback necessary
- everything is asked to be halted because a non-standard block got to the blockchain and reason needs to be figured out
- When I asked "what exactly makes this a problem from a client side?", he said "because it appears to have caused a fork thereafter - we're busy investigating"

BBR is Cryptonote, which uses gotos for error handling in a bunch of places. Pretty standard technique on C. Dangerous of course, but using C is dangerous in a whole lot of ways. (in most cases)

I just checked, and there is one "goto err" used in EC_KEY_regenerate_key() in the current codebase. But regardless, the Cryptonote codebase is far worse. For one thing, writing it in C with pointer arithmetic is just nuts.

I'm sure the Bytecoin/CryptoNote designers also understand the issue(it was probably them who launched the attack).

BBR is likely safe due to the fact that there doesn't seem to be any bad blood between the Bytecoin/CryptoNote designers and crypto_zoidberg.

Either way when zoidberg wakes up he will handle it all.

Fair point, but I will counter that if there are real txs where parties can trade their balance with any other person in the universe, then off-chain is not the same jungle nor the same network effect.

The tx's weren't killed. They were internalized within SD, off-chain, how it should have been done at the start. GDP remained and SD was sold for 120,000 BTC.

It seems a helpful venue then, to focus one's priorities.  You have made the Philippines much more attractive to me than I had thought possible.  Despite, or perhaps in part because of, the death squads.

That would conveniently explain why the NXT price did not stall sooner when it was being pumped, unlike for example the Monero price that is an actual product of market mechanism between thousands of actors.

The image of Mr. E and KootieCoon as Nxt Superheroes was supposed to set a non-serious tone for my last post.  It was hyperbole.  I don't actually believe that all of the original Nxt stakeholders were sock puppets, nor do I actually believe that KootieCoon looks like Cartman and wears a racoon costume while frantically refreshing his browser as he waits for an opportunity to strike.   

The broader point I was making stands up to scrutiny: there's no way to avoid sock puppet purchases with an IPO.  Questions about the legitimacy of the distribution will always remain. 

Well well well.  If it isn't the dynamic duo: Brilliant Mr. E and his sidekick Kootiecoon.  How come you guys always come out together?  Are you like Nxt superheroes waiting for an opportunity to pump your POS coin?





Nxt is over BTW.  It had a brief moment of glory but the market is waking up to the problem with POS--especially those that were distributed by "IPOs."  Those "73 stakeholders" who were awarded all the Nxt coins that would ever exist were quite possibly 1 developer + 72 sock puppets.

Gold getting decimated.

Major breakout; to the downside.