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I don't understand this sock obsession as NxT's preferred vehicle of FUD as it's a weak choice. To match the power of a NxT whale, who acquired 5% of NxT for 1 BTC ($150 in October 2013), one would have to create 160 sockpuppets in NEM or 40 sockpuppets in NODE.
Mind you nothing stopped someone from creating 3 NxT whales as there was no taint analysis. So one would have to create 480 sockpuppets in NEM or 120 sockpuppets in NODE.
As for people "free loading". If I really wanted to make a point, I could search through the NxT forum and pull quotations from senior members and developers about them complaining about multiple NxT whales who never contributed or logged in since 2013. Handing over 5% of a coin to random people doesn't bode well, especially when they're just sitting there waiting to be made a billionaire and people on the NxT forum are complaining about a lack of funding.
The reality is both NEM and NODE went through extensive audits and no large sockmasters were ever found - the biggest sock masters only had around 5 socks and there weren't many of those.
Nobody abused sock creation back in January for what is a worthless coin. Sure there were people who created 1-5 socks but relative to overall distribution these people have no influence or power compared to a NxT whale.
Two rights simply don't make a wrong here. Repeating "omg sockpuppets" doesn't make it so, especially when NxT itself isn't immune to that argument and never mind any socks in NxT have a far more disproportional effect (like one guy could own easily own 20% of NxT just by spending 4 BTC back in 2013) than any socks in NEM or NODE.
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There's no such thing as a "Fascist Ryukyu" - Ryukyu did not exist during the second world war and any interpretation of what a Fascist Ryukyu flag is speculative.
In fact there is no such thing as a 'Fascist Flag' unless we count Legionnaire Romania (which never came into power). Mussolini's Italy is a retrospective invention (like the concept of a "Byzantine Empire" when it always was the Roman Empire until 1453) as it was always a Monarchy under Vittorio and it used the Monarchical Flag.
Nazi Germany's Swastika flag, although slightly modeled off Imperial Germany, utilized Proletarian colors and in that regard more resembled the Soviet Union's flag than any other contemporary flag in the world.
Am I defending the Tomoe? No, actually I range between dislike or indifference but I don't voice this dissent because I am under the assumption that it'll be changed.
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Call from Beyond's trolling isn't even annoying anymore, it's just embarrassing for him. Dude you should stop trolling BTT and spend some time developing your Qubic and Nxt side projects.
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NxT is teaming up with Max Coin? Maybe a strategic partnership with Maza Coin is also in order.  |
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They should reevaluate their rating or put in more research. NxT can only be seen as a buy if you're of the opinion it can somehow recover to $0.09. The thing is given it's been almost 7 months since it hit that stable high. There's many countless reasons why NxT is on the decline and can't really go up. Don't forget a couple months ago that it was worth less than Doge in April and the only thing which revitalized NxT (temporarily) was the asset exchange (which NEM dominated and continues to dominate). Granted the AE volume is a smaller portion of overall NxT volume but it's people buying NxT at premium prices to acquire assets, not internal manipulation, whales selling or day trading. If you have 10 big traders trading back and forth with each other it's very easy to get $100K+ volume in a given day but the prices don't budge. If NxT is a buy in any scenario it would be related to NEM. Like when NEM has its' one click install or the launch is imminent, I can easily see NxT go up by several cents. Likewise there are other coins which plan on selling NEM styled tokens on the NxT asset exchange and that inevitably will cause NxT to go up in value. |
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Max Keiser is a real joke on this forum. He's been pumping and dumping coins like Max Coin and Quark for a very long time. When Keiser tried to pump Darkcoin - it triggered a selling dump, lmao! If crypto currencies were securities then Keiser likely would had gone to jail already for having his hand in the equivalent of penny stock scams. If we go by Keiser's track record, in which every coin he advertises or tries to pump goes to ruin, then NxT isn't far from a collapse. |
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You say 1 month and I say 6 months. NxT hasn't quite recovered to when it used to be a stable 8 to 9 cents back in early 2014, the price went off the cliff after the public became aware of NxT's distribution.
You're absolutely wrong and you understand nothing about trends. NXT has barely even been a coin for 6 months. Furthermore, I don't understand what good you think you are doing for your (apparently massive) NEM investment by constantly bashing NXT. NEM would be nothing without NXT. NEM is currently backed by nothing other than NXT and a bunch of promises. You said NEM is working on some new features that distinguish it from being a NXT clone yet you don't bother to mention what they are. I don't know what agenda you think you're promoting as you are all over the map with your viewpoints. Lmfao - NxT goes back way further than 6 months, don't go with this "official launch" BS. I had NxT in my wallet in 2013. You can't pretend that NxT launched in February or whatever your convenient date is. You're just a bagholder who bought in at 8+ cents and have been waiting for NxT to recover. Of course you'll be bullish but in reality the NxT whales and people like me who bought under 3 cents are only selling. |
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Fighters from the newly established Islamic State ambushed and destroyed an Iraqi armored column in the western province of Anbar. Islamic State fighters also captured several American-made armored personnel carriers. The ambush highlights the deteriorating state of the Iraqi security forces. The Islamic State's Anbar Wilayat (division or province) released a series of photographs on its Twitter account on July 10 that document the ambush of an Iraqi armored column and the aftermath of the attack [photographs below]. According to the statements from the Anbar Wilayat, the Iraqi Army convoy was attacked in the Khalidiyah area in Anbar province. Although the exact date of the ambush was not provided, the Anbar Wilayat typically publishes photographs of attacks within days of carrying them out.     http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2014/07/islamic_state_routs.php |
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The decentralized exchange is neat, however, because of coloured coins, there is few reasons to hold NXT.
Imho, the distribution is still not good enough to sustain an higher market-cap than what it has now.
Exactly. The piss poor distribution killed off NxT. NxT used to be $0.08+ until people realized it was premined by a few people. Maybe if NxT had better distribution it could be $300+ million by now but no point in dealing in hypothetical as the NxT was approached back in 2013 about doing a second IPO and the greedy whales said no. NxT is truly a get quick rich scheme as their whales are more concerned about how they can get their money out then growing NxT to be a competitor to BTC. |
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No IPO? Huh? First you claim there's an Ethereum Alpha and then claim they have no IPO, you have no clue what's happening with Ethereum admit it. Don't waste my time by mentioning Gihub. https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/668-introducing-ethereum/An IPO has been in the works for ages. Ethereum is drooling at the idea of a $30 million IPO (they used the token figure of 30,000 BTC but really were pricing $30 million in $Fiat). By the way you have no clue about the history of crypto currencies, either. Amazon has already tried "Amazon Payments" and it didn't go anywhere which is proof that big money doesn't make something work. Technically, if you do your research, you'ld find that many many many companies are already in the transfer payment business but simply don't attract the userbase like Bitcoin or the alternates have. It's like saying Boeing (aircraft) should start making automobiles but the reality is Boeing wouldn't have a clue on how to make a good automobile, neither can a company like Facebook or Google make a good crypto currency and they're already preoccupied with their own niches. If Google or Facebook gets into the game it's because they buy out someone like Ripple, not because they divert existing staff to create a crypto currency. Ethereum is starting to get annoying. It's just a 18 year old mascot from Toronto (Goldmacn Sachs wanted a Justin Bieber to promote their coin) who pumps out drafts on Github and yet this kid is more well known than real Bitcoin developers or an alternate developer like Charlie Lee. I get it, he's "hip young and kewl" - Goldman Sachs should force Vitalik to undergo a make over so they can make him look like a boy band singer. I didn't want to reply as I believe I have better things to do. But if I don't reply, it means that I am some imbecile as you have so implied. For you are so cocky and yet WRONG! I hate to be blunt but what I am going to say will make you a real idiot. Here's why. You said, "No IPO? Huh?" Then you pointed me to : https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/668-introducing-ethereum/ to prove your point. You were dead wrong again in the first instance and then outdated in the second instance. That thread was started by Charles Hoskinson 5 days after UP mooted NEM and was not active since 6 February. Of course you don't know how much has changed since. And for your info, like UP, Charles Hoskinson has since left ethereum, although for a different reason. People in this forum cried foul when NEM was said to be the same as Nxt by people outside the NEM community or disinterested in NEM. Well, the fact WAS true until NEM devs decided they should just do it from scratch. Same thing with ethereum. They WANTED to raise fund and being techies they used the word IPO. Soon they found that IPO was not as simple as they thought it to be as it has its legal implications. They "dropped" the idea and called it pre-ether sales instead. And if you looked back at what I wrote, I was being very specific. I was pedantic when you kept saying IPO as there was no IPO in the true sense of it. Your 30,000BTC and $30million numbers are outdated. It shows you know nothing! I am not here to protect ethereum. I just want us as community to be respectful of what others do and not to condemn them for whatever they are in here for. They have as much rights to claim what they are for, just as us in NEM. We revile at the slightest remark. It only reflects the type of people we are in this community. Vitalik did not spike you. Why do you need to call him names? You are God that he is such a sinner? Now, on the Alpha thing. I bet you don't even know that they have been testing their wallet some few months now. Even if you know, I doubt you can fire it up as you probably won't know what to do with the source codes in the Github. In fact, you know nothing about what's in the Github as revealed by yourself. As for your remarks on Amazon, Google and Facebook, I rest my case because if I do, it will make you look like an absolute moron. Much as you believe that Vitalik is some stooge, I have the equal right to believe the following of you: You are not very smart and you shoot nonsense off your mouth You are CfA and Taunsew of the same one person You don't care about NEM. You are not a Nemster as you want us to believe you are. Should I say you are a Pumspter and Dumpster? You'd only want to show your apparent support of NEM so that it goes up and you dump. You have no faith in the cryptos as demonstrated by the remarks you made. You are a wet blanket and you have no positive attitude. Most of all you are arrogant. With this, I rest my case. And I don't wish to spend my time rebutting your baseless comments. I have bigger things to achieve with respect to building NEM as a world class platform that the 7 billion other people will want to use. The last thing NEM needs is some megalomaniac denouncing that everything else is rubbish and NEM is great without putting a thought of how to make it great. In legal term, this is ultra vires, so to speak. Finally, if you want to pump and dump ether like the guy who got his $1500 just so easy, here is the link which you can keep tab on: https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/09/how-to-make-a-purchase-in-the-ether-presale/Go figure it out on how to earn your keeps if you are such a smart man. Ad hominems are a logical fallacy and it is not a valid argument. If your only counter is that I am "not smart" and "a moron", then it goes to show that my argument regarding Ethereum is spot on. I provided irrefutable evidence on multiple points and you shoot it down because it doesn't fit your fantasy of Ethereum and now you retort with baseless insults. There's no Ethereum alpha and it's a ponzi scheme for wealthy investors, end of story. Irrefutable...suits you then. Whatever.  |
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NxT used to be $0.08 to $0.11 when Bitcoin was in the $800 range and yet today it's $0.042. I don't understand how someone can be bullish for a dying coin. It's like picking out some random $hitclone on coinmarketcap and saying "yeaaah! Quark's gonna hit $15 million buy buy buy"
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No IPO? Huh? First you claim there's an Ethereum Alpha and then claim they have no IPO, you have no clue what's happening with Ethereum admit it. Don't waste my time by mentioning Gihub. https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/668-introducing-ethereum/An IPO has been in the works for ages. Ethereum is drooling at the idea of a $30 million IPO (they used the token figure of 30,000 BTC but really were pricing $30 million in $Fiat). By the way you have no clue about the history of crypto currencies, either. Amazon has already tried "Amazon Payments" and it didn't go anywhere which is proof that big money doesn't make something work. Technically, if you do your research, you'ld find that many many many companies are already in the transfer payment business but simply don't attract the userbase like Bitcoin or the alternates have. It's like saying Boeing (aircraft) should start making automobiles but the reality is Boeing wouldn't have a clue on how to make a good automobile, neither can a company like Facebook or Google make a good crypto currency and they're already preoccupied with their own niches. If Google or Facebook gets into the game it's because they buy out someone like Ripple, not because they divert existing staff to create a crypto currency. Ethereum is starting to get annoying. It's just a 18 year old mascot from Toronto (Goldmacn Sachs wanted a Justin Bieber to promote their coin) who pumps out drafts on Github and yet this kid is more well known than real Bitcoin developers or an alternate developer like Charlie Lee. I get it, he's "hip young and kewl" - Goldman Sachs should force Vitalik to undergo a make over so they can make him look like a boy band singer. I didn't want to reply as I believe I have better things to do. But if I don't reply, it means that I am some imbecile as you have so implied. For you are so cocky and yet WRONG! I hate to be blunt but what I am going to say will make you a real idiot. Here's why. You said, "No IPO? Huh?" Then you pointed me to : https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/668-introducing-ethereum/ to prove your point. You were dead wrong again in the first instance and then outdated in the second instance. That thread was started by Charles Hoskinson 5 days after UP mooted NEM and was not active since 6 February. Of course you don't know how much has changed since. And for your info, like UP, Charles Hoskinson has since left ethereum, although for a different reason. People in this forum cried foul when NEM was said to be the same as Nxt by people outside the NEM community or disinterested in NEM. Well, the fact WAS true until NEM devs decided they should just do it from scratch. Same thing with ethereum. They WANTED to raise fund and being techies they used the word IPO. Soon they found that IPO was not as simple as they thought it to be as it has its legal implications. They "dropped" the idea and called it pre-ether sales instead. And if you looked back at what I wrote, I was being very specific. I was pedantic when you kept saying IPO as there was no IPO in the true sense of it. Your 30,000BTC and $30million numbers are outdated. It shows you know nothing! I am not here to protect ethereum. I just want us as community to be respectful of what others do and not to condemn them for whatever they are in here for. They have as much rights to claim what they are for, just as us in NEM. We revile at the slightest remark. It only reflects the type of people we are in this community. Vitalik did not spike you. Why do you need to call him names? You are God that he is such a sinner? Now, on the Alpha thing. I bet you don't even know that they have been testing their wallet some few months now. Even if you know, I doubt you can fire it up as you probably won't know what to do with the source codes in the Github. In fact, you know nothing about what's in the Github as revealed by yourself. As for your remarks on Amazon, Google and Facebook, I rest my case because if I do, it will make you look like an absolute moron. Much as you believe that Vitalik is some stooge, I have the equal right to believe the following of you: You are not very smart and you shoot nonsense off your mouth You are CfA and Taunsew of the same one person You don't care about NEM. You are not a Nemster as you want us to believe you are. Should I say you are a Pumspter and Dumpster? You'd only want to show your apparent support of NEM so that it goes up and you dump. You have no faith in the cryptos as demonstrated by the remarks you made. You are a wet blanket and you have no positive attitude. Most of all you are arrogant. With this, I rest my case. And I don't wish to spend my time rebutting your baseless comments. I have bigger things to achieve with respect to building NEM as a world class platform that the 7 billion other people will want to use. The last thing NEM needs is some megalomaniac denouncing that everything else is rubbish and NEM is great without putting a thought of how to make it great. In legal term, this is ultra vires, so to speak. Finally, if you want to pump and dump ether like the guy who got his $1500 just so easy, here is the link which you can keep tab on: https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/09/how-to-make-a-purchase-in-the-ether-presale/Go figure it out on how to earn your keeps if you are such a smart man. Ad hominems are a logical fallacy and it is not a valid argument. If your only counter is that I am "not smart" and "a moron", then it goes to show that my argument regarding Ethereum is spot on. I provided irrefutable evidence on multiple points and you shoot it down because it doesn't fit your fantasy of Ethereum and now you retort with baseless insults. There's no Ethereum alpha and it's a ponzi scheme for wealthy investors, end of story. |
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Very nice country. I've been to it.  |
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What's up with all the fishing photos? Is that mainly Siberia or the Far East?
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I am technologically semi-literate and was able to get the NEM alpha to work, but frankly that required the patience of dealing with bugs and errors for maybe a hour until it finally worked. I couldn't comprehend how the technologically semi-illiterate (or worse) can get the NEM alpha to work and that might explain why only 200 users are actively testing it. I suspect once we get the one click install and we edge closer to release, a NEM stake might be worth anywhere between $2K to $5K. NEM as it stands at $1000 is relatively cheap when we weigh in the possible future valuation but buying now involves a great deal of patience for any prospective would-be buyer. How much patience? Quantifiable... less than the people who have been waiting patiently since January and have refrained from selling on the asset exchange. I hope I am not proven wrong but I am under the assumption that we'll have a launched beta (as in real coins in our wallets) sometime this year. Mind you I am not a day trader or a speculator. I'll probably be accused of being a hoarding penguin (a smaller counterpart to a whale?) with my stake in the year 2020. Even for me, the urge to refrain from selling to collect $1500 is big but I have the optimism that NEM will a top tending crypto currency. It already has a fairly large capitalization despite the only way to purchase it is through the pigeonholed hole NXT Asset Exchange (which no doubt hurts its' capitalization in some sense). As well, we have seen NEM's value drop considerably as it is partially pegged to the value of NxT and NxT itself went from $.062 some weeks ago to down to $0.042 (a decline of 33%. If a NEMstake is currently $1141 - if we added back the 33% loss in NxT then NEMstake is back at $1517 which was the range it was at before NxT declined in price. $1141 x 0.33 = 376.53 + 1141 = $1517 ). For all the accusation that NEM isn't innovative - I have to keep on playing this old record in that NEM has multiple features and innovations which NxT itself does not possess, let alone the 300+ generation 1.0 bitclones out there. NEM isn't a step behind anyone, on the contrary, it's steps ahead due its' algorithms and other core features. What NEM is lacking in is side features (an example being NxT's asset exchange) but those will come in time when independent developers or the official developers submit their content. |
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Now it makes sense why he didnt stop sock puppets when he knew most accounts were fake and all he had to do was say stop but he didnt.
NXTL was the same, could of stopped them with a simple 10-20 post limit etc or a date when registered, when people do this you got to question it.
Then they weed out the sock puppets that aren't theirs. Kind of genius really. He could have 10% of coins easy.
Math proves your theory wrong. In NxT, all you had to do was send in 1 BTC (limit) to get 5% and there was no taint analysis to stop socks. BCnext could easily have had 5 sockpuppets. Maybe Call from Above is BCnext as it might explain why Call from Above can post all day without needing a job to pay the bills. In contrast - NEM was publicly audited. If BCnext hypothetically had 25% of NxT, all he had to do was create five accounts or make them up. UtopianFuture on the other hand would have to create 800 sockpuppets to receive 25% of NEM. That's a lot of work at a time when was supposedly busy organizing everything and I'm pretty sure BTT would subnet ban you if you created that many socks in such a short period. |
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the whole thing doesn't make sense and is fishy as fuck.... BTER needs to give real information that can help track the hacker and threw him in jail, if the hack thing is all true because the whole thing doesn't make any sense to me...
Yes it's a publicity stunt, it has to be. |
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This is another copywrighting coin with a grand IPO. This is a Mastercoin 2.0.
Does anyone think this will work out? A lot of these copywrighting coins end up being ponzi schemes ran by wealthy investors who are begging subsequent investors (bagholders) to come in to buy their coin and it almost never works as nobody wants to contribute to a get quick rich scheme.
The people who invested into Mastercoin (which had a huge PR campaign and a huge developer team) would had made more money buying Doge, NxT and other coins. The same is true for Maidsafe, all the balloons who bought Maidsafe would had made way way way more money off Darkcoin.
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Nxt has no competitor
+ lots to Salsa..... Is it a good idea for NXT to have potential competing crypto on its exchange?
I'm interested in NXT and I started accumulating some and I'm looking at some assets with concern that something like NEM could displace it.
NEM looks like a good project, but I dont see them as serious competition for NXT yet. And, hell yeah, list them on the AE, i have no problem with that. "Serious competition" is a dichotomous statement, no? There's only a very small handful of 2.0 coins and NEM is arguably the best competition against NxT.. unless we grasp straws and bend them to include Ripple or Bitshares but those two payment systems / protocols are aiming for different end results. If NEM wasn't seen as competition then it wouldn't be receiving all the negative attention it gets - you guys would instead be bashing on NODE or Kora. |
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Yes.. let's buy a coin which is 98% premine by a company. It must make people feel nice to know you are trading $Fiat for magical coins so some executive can afford a private jet.
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