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2181  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: February 23, 2017, 09:00:51 PM

I agree, signature campaign also are paying us from the profit of their investments. Once they stop earning profit on their payments, so our source of income too. So while we are earning from signature campaigns, we should explore other source of income. Imo nothing lasts forever and the more the merrier. When we have many source of income it is still us who will benefit from it so we shouldn't be scared on exploring them.
That's right we normally shouldn't just depend from one source for our income we need to have multiple sources  from which we can get our income and signature campaign can't be a stable source of income at all because if you see most of the sites are gambling sites so anything can happen maybe a person will win a really high bet so it can be risky for us. The best thing to do is grab the opportunity until it is available you never know anything can happen.

When you re saying a that we need  multiple  sources or stream of income, signature campaign is definitely one of them. Don't say that it is not a stable income because of course you are not just relying on it because since you were saying about multiple sources of income - it need not be that every sources of income is stable.
2182  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 23, 2017, 08:53:58 PM
Actually i never saw a man, who has rich from Gambling?
I m not playing gambling because i saw a lot of people who has lost everything in gambling.
So i want to ask if anyone is here how has rich from GAMBLING ??


I believe that a person can get rich by gambling but the chance is very small. We all know that gambling is based only on small chances of winning and big chances of losing. An example is lottery, I considered it as gambling. I know someone who got rich in an instance because of the lottery but I have also witnessed how it consumes him and his family. He tried investing the money for future use but it did not work out. The money was consumed up to the last centavo in useless things and wrong ways.





yes that is right to say that a person can be rich from gambling but there are very little chance for that. because in gambling most of the people do not have have chance to make money. in fact gambling is a game of luck and not every person can be luck for every time as you will win a game and ma be the second and third one but not every game in a row. and that is the reason that gambling can give chance to people to become rich from gambling but very little chance and most of the time people cannot make money in gambling.

We cannot deny the fact that indeed, there are few people who got rich due to gambling - like winning in the lottery. But we must be well aware also of the fact that these people really belongs to a really small and minority number. Most of the gamblers loses and both online and offline casinos are the one winning - it just how the latter was designed for.
2183  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: February 23, 2017, 08:51:24 PM
I tried doing trading with a low amount but the problem was that I could not manage when I give some loss or have some profits. Its very difficult when we have low bankroll while when we have high bankroll trading seems like a fluent job.

Having low bankroll is fine when you are just starting to trade. The thing is, you have to mindset that it is as if a big bankroll already - but t be honest, it is just a numbers thing. When you profit and good at earning .001 btc in your trading, think of it as just changing the decimal point to the left when you work with high bankroll.
2184  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 23, 2017, 08:49:00 PM
I do not think the bitcoin can let banks disappear now.But the banks may disappear in the future not only because of btc.

Banks cannot disappear, it might be possible that physically banks may go obsolete, but electronically it will  continue to function. Bitcoin is great but some features are missing which general people will like to have. And also the trust factor towards a bank is too high.
I have to some different view about this. It’s true that banks cannot disappear but I don’t think bank is going to be physically absolute it is working at backend. Bitcoin is website of full feature I think it is not in their rule that they show the involvement of bank even they doing transaction through it but involvement of bank is not in benefit of us and bitcoin want our benefit as much as possible that’s why involvement of bank is not showing. 

Banks are somewhat a foundation and institution already in the financial market and standing there for centuries already, it is somehow have some pride or just trust issues in giving in with bitcoins. Although, they will work hand in hand in the future.
2185  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 23, 2017, 08:46:10 PM
If you had to convert all your wealth to either Bitcoin or gold and keep it there for 10 years, which would you choose? Keep in mind the fact that Bitcoin has only been around for 5 years, and could be fundamentally different in any number of ways in 10 years.

Bitcoin and Gold are both have value in the community. But the difference was in terms of technology Bitcoin surpassed the gold and bitcoin is very open source to any citizens all around the world, unlike gold only can afford type of people can have a chance to have it.

There is no denying that indeed bitcoin is the new gold for today because people just love the way it is working - very convenient in terms of online commercial transaction. It is a really a fortune to some individual now who ere just very simple and now got lots of money already.
2186  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: February 23, 2017, 08:41:16 PM
I do not know how to gamble smart, I only know how to quit. So instead of gambling my money away, I stopped doing it. But sometimes, I still get tempted and bet once in a while. I think it is still healthy because I am not addicted to it.

Man, if you don't know how to gamble smart. It's very easy thing to do. When you gamble and you have enough money, you just need to budget it properly. And if you are still not addicted in gambling you can apply to gamble smartly. You can also do some smart way by simply betting small amount of bitcoins/money when you bet.
Yes gamble smartly means you have a plan on how to manage your money and not being greedy. dont use the money you cant afford to lose and if you had the chance to win, stop for now and enjoy your earnings.

Being not greedy or avoiding to be on that attitude is already considered as a good strategy and smart way of gambling. If you are responsible and you know that it can make you worst when you become greedy, you know how to gamble smartly and you will not let your emotion to fall on that state.
i told you to stay on the limit , it means you are avoiding the greedy.
you have to know the power of how much you can afford to lose and don't break it no matter what happened.
stick on it and you will not put yourself in danger and gamble with your brain not only with your emotion.

Yes staying on your limit or following your set rules will be the best way to gamble smartly. Because if you are disciplined you ca be smarter than those guys that are not using their heads when gambling.
you've got my point right? be discipline and you will get a better result.
rather than to keep following your greedy that always leading to lost and have benefit at all.
think with a fresh mind , whenever you get heated just coool it down by take a break and then continue when you feel okay , don't push yourself.

I know these being cool and not being greedy when gambling is easier said than done. Why?, because most of the gamblers, most specially the new ones have no control to their emotions and just carried away with the winnings and losing. It is indeed hard to control that emotion but once you mastered it, you are up for a good win one of these days.
2187  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 11, 2017, 08:23:49 AM
honestly i don't have great strategy at dicqe game but in my side use martingale strategy is work fine on me it can give me positive profits although sometimes i get losses witht this strategy but the important thing in the gambling is only big luck although use great strategy it will not work without lucky Smiley
Because not all method will give us the same experience, martingale is a good method especially if you are lucky and you have a good bankroll. It will only be ineffective if you do not have control in yourself and you will rage once you experience a cold streak.

from my experience, when i use the same strategy that my friend give to me, i can not win with easy but my friend is always win. me and my friend trying to use the same amount to playing dice games, but the result is different. but if i am not using any strategy the chances for me to win is increase than if i use the strategy so maybe my luck is work when i am not using strategy.
Maybe you were not execute it with the proper timing, having the same method would not guarantee the same experience. There are a lot of factors to be considered in gambling, it's not the technique on selecting winning bets only but also on how to manage ourselves and our bankroll as well.

Controlling our emotion and greed is the number one factor in winning and not incurring much loses in gambling. And always remember that when it is no longer fun anymore, better stop gambling!
2188  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: February 11, 2017, 08:21:36 AM

Yes having a lot of source of income can make you steady in terms of earning. It is not bad to have savings in the bad because you are helping them for free but if you are business minded and wants to have decent source of income. You need to maximize the usage of your money, don't just spend into things that you don't need, buying unnecessary things don't do it.
Yes it is, that is what I am doing together with my partner in life and am teaching my children as well that we don't need to buy all things that they have in life. I am actually planning to study again regarding economics and financial as I wanted to teach some people how to invest, save and spend money. Having a trading and insurance will make your future great.
it is good to teach about trading and investing to people but if your children are getting education then you  do not need to teach them about bitcoin . i thin they should complete their education first and after that if you are teaching them about education then it is a good idea.

It is always good to let our children finish their education but I firmly believe that while they are studying, it is good to teach them the value of saving and investing - the latter will keep them with in their financial life while education is a total human formation.
2189  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: February 11, 2017, 07:59:08 AM
We all love the easy quick money, if you don't agree with that, then i love easy quick money. How to get that?
The only possible answer for this is do some gamble. Just think to taking all money in the table make people don't want to stop playing.
Greed. This is why gambling so addicting, because human are greed.
Easy money and  being greedy on money will make us loose the more we greed on that thing the more risk we can take every one loves to make easy money the real question is, Is everyone willing to pay the price? Everyone Loved to take all money playing gambling we all want to take the price but we don't know that we are getting too much on that involving too much on that thing.
But I have saw that even those people are addicted to gambling who do not win money in gambling and who know well that they are not that much expert to win some money in gambling so with that I think they are gambling and addicted to gambling because of some enjoyment involved in gambling.
in fact gambling give hope to people. people think that next time they can play gambling in a better way and can make money. even those people who have no experience in gambling and most of the time they lose money in gambling. even they themselves know that they cannot make money in gambling. but still they have hope that next time they will play better and will make money, but for every time they do not succeeded.

Because of the feeling of easy money is the reason why people are hook into gambling. The fact that they can sometimes double their money in literally seconds or minutes. However, they never consider that it also comes with a big risk and a potential lost of money in a split seconds as well
2190  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: February 11, 2017, 07:33:53 AM
Sometimes it made me think which is easier to trade stocks, forex or crypto? Stocks are the most stable and reliable I believe although it has some whales and some pump and dump but at least not as scary as crypto and the well manipulated forex trade. But the higher the risk the higher its rewards which is forex, crypto and stocks.

I'm pretty sure it all boils down to how much bitcoin you have to invest. If you can put a lot of money into stocks, then you can do very well as long as you don't get greedy and watch for volatile ones. However, if you have a smaller amount and you are willing to risk the fact of losing your bitcoin, then it would probably make sense to do crypto because stocks will make you hardly anything.
The problem with markets such as the forex market, and stock market, is that the volatility is not high as in the Bitcoin market. For some people this is seen as something positive, but in my opinion greater volatility can help the investor who wants to have a greater potential for earnings. Of course, a deeper study of the market and cryptocurrencies is needed before investing in any.

volatility is what most aggressive traders want. Veteran and expert aggressive traders are the one that mostly reap the profits while novice and aggressive type of traders are the one that have many loses..
2191  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 11, 2017, 07:27:16 AM
I will choose bitcoin but I don’t think that is that surprising since this is a bitcoin forum, if you asked the question in a forum about gold then you will get the opposite results you are getting here.

Make sense.. But I really found people that have possession of golds that are investing as well in bitcoin - they are somewhat open minded with business and investing.. Well, that what makes them really having wealth due to their mind setting and not on their current possession of gold and bitcoin
2192  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: February 10, 2017, 04:16:39 AM
I am going to do both, to me, the trading and gambling is almost the same, there are opportunities to win and lose. for a percentage of gambling is 70% and 30% for trading.

I guess you need to change the percentage upon doing trading and gambling. Because putting more percentage in gambling is going to make you lose a lot while in trading you only have smaller chance of returning big profit. But its up to you, I'm just saying that if I were you, I'm going to make it 70% for trading and remaining in gambling or you can do a 50-50.

Trading is almost the same with gambling. There is some fee in trading and the owner is guaranteed to get profit from it however it is still much better to just invest in a site because you are guaranteed to get profit, it require quite a long time however pretty sure that this is a much better option then the other two option
The focus now if one is planning to invest in casinos bankroll is to save money, he need to raise a good amount of capital to put as investment. To minimize the risk, it is important not to focus with one site only, diversification must be done and that is necessary.

The gambling industry is very profitable in general, but we do not have the control on the minds of the operators or gambling site owners, so let's diversify.

correct! we should diversify by investing to various number of reputable online casinos that accept investors in their bankrolls. Putting all our eggs in one site is very risky because we don't have any fallback in case something undesirable happened to the particular online casino.
2193  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: February 10, 2017, 04:14:21 AM
I tried the martingale strategy and some modifications of it. The bottom line is that the odds are against us and you will eventually lose. If you are lucky enough to get ahead, quit and take the profits.

The house edge will always caught us unaware if we become so greedy and never stop betting. It is always a good idea to keep a realistic and achievable daily profit and once you hit that goal, stop right away in order for you not be beaten by the house edge.
2194  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 10, 2017, 04:12:37 AM
Gambling is a sickness for some gamblers but of course not for the all of them. Some people just enjoy the game and never lose to it all they have or even a significant amount for them. I personally know several gamblers, online and irl ones, who are gambling for years not becoming gambling addicts.

Lol gambling is an action for all gamblers, not sickness for some.  Gambling addiction is gambler's sickness if they got an impulse control disorder.  And not all get it because they know how to limit themselves .  So it is wrong to say gamblings as considered sickness because it is the gambling addiction and not gambling itself.
Gambling are addictive but I still believe there are a lot of gamblers who do it in a responsible way. Majority of us loses and that is already given, although we lose, we still have that control inside to limit our loses. If some have ruin their lives because of irresponsible gambling then they are in need of help, it will affect your financial status seriously and you will not gonna appreciate gambling.

Agree with you there mate! We need to gamble responsibly and not hastily betting that is founded by greed. The latter is the sure way to lose all of our bankroll if we are not careful enough.
2195  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: February 10, 2017, 04:10:52 AM
I can see my mom's pizza restaurant sells very well not in the level of pizzas hut but it sells est. 300 to 600 per week

Having your own restaurant seems to be another best way to get steady income. This is my dream to have my own store and restaurant, 300-600 seems to be pretty well if you had 2 employees there working weekly then its a good way. And it is good while you had your own stable job, you will make yourself financial stable with it.

Having multiple streams of income is the way to go to combat against inflation - if we just save and put all of our money to bank, it will be losing its value in the future because it will be beaten by the inflation. Hence, it is really a good way to invest, just like in this example own restaurant. But we need to be very realistic that not all businesses will be successful right away, we need to know the workaround of the business in order to succeed.
2196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 10, 2017, 04:08:21 AM
Maybe yes because bitcoin is increasing rapidly. people are using them and saving their money on wallet. banks are risky due to robbers but we can save bitcoins on our hands

Price alone is not enough to take down banks. We need a bigger reason for bitcoin to make banks disappear. IMO, if bitcoin, has a physical structure/offices which can shoulder and compete with what banks are doing, that's the only time banks might start to close one by one, provided that bitcoin offices is legally permitted to operate like a bank.  Smiley

Exactly, it's quite impossible that bitcoin banks will disappear,  there might some changes in some banks accepting and using bitcoin transactions. But it will not replace the fact that it will always be the same bank that people uses for their money.
It's not bitcoin bank what we are talking here, we are referring to a usual bank that caters fiat deposits. Bitcoin is not yet regulated but we can do banking with it. The fact that we can do banking without a bank, that makes a threat for the legal banks to be replace but that threat is not that big and they do not consider that possibilities.

Agree! the OP's reference to bank is the bank for fiat and not for bitcoins - I believe we are not even calling it a bank of bitcoin but a bitcoin wallet.
2197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction. on: February 09, 2017, 02:19:35 PM
Why is someone get addicted to gambling once he gamble ?

The reason why gambling is so addictive is because gambling gives a thrill that we never expect, especially when excitement is coming. In betting, they give a happiness when you are winning. And when you encounter the losing you want to back your money, that why you will addictive to gambling.
That really is the thrill and excitement of gambling. Everyone really want to take back their losses every game and it is really hard to take back their losses, because the more you desperately want to get that back, the more you are losing and getting addicted to gambling. But thankfully I am done being an addict in gambling and just view it as a past time and entertainment.
Well i am addicted gambler before but never thinking that i want to get back all my loses my target before i want to win big.. i am not satisfied even i already made a profit that can turn into lose if i will continue because i am not satisfied what i had..
The addiction can be trigger if you are feeling happy in you habits..  but if you are losing and turn you mad its not an addiction.. i think those who are wanting to recover their loses they are thinking to get back but its not a addiction and i think they are angry why they are losing a lot of money in gambling..
- Gambling always brings many emotions for us, we are happy when we win and angry when losing. Actually, although win or lose we still continue playing, because when we win, we become greedy and want to earn more money. While we lose, we continue to play because angry and want to earn back the money. All things are because greed, greed make us become addicted to gambling
Becoming greedy is the most dangerous part in gambling because it can destroy totally a human and also destroy his/her whole family. Therefore, you must learn how to control your mind and body and do not let gambling seduce you. In fact, it is not hard as you think if you have strong mind and you are the patient people

Too much of everything is really bad. Greed in gambling is too much of wanting to win more in order to accumulate more profit - however, it is not always true that a gambler will always win this way. That gambler will sooner or later be hit by the house edge advantage and before the gambler knows it, all of his money are all gone - and the same process continue.
2198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 09, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
NO, this is a mistake of your thought, Bitcoin can not make the banks disappear, because the bank is the most basic foundation of the existence of Bitcoin. if the banks disappear, then the value of Bitcoin is no longer, the value of Bitcoin is based on the value of real money. It is certain, however, thrive Bitcoin will affect banks. This will be difficult, but it can not do the banks disappear

Trust me, if bank disappear, I doubt that bitcoin will also disappear...  Smiley

They are two different thing, and only the same thing in one - which is money... But anyway, maybe the production of money will be reduced in time, but I doubt if banks are going to close because of bitcoin... Who knows, one day we will be seeing bitcoin in banks...  Smiley

I totally agree with this. Bitcoin won't make banks disappear because the former is just an alternative for online and offline transactions - basically online transactions. While bank, caters fiat money that people are using regularly in day to day basis.
2199  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: February 09, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
No doubts. It could be a good idea to set aside a small amount for grandchildren.
I hope that the development of humanity will step into the future for as many fast that the grandchildren or great-grandchildren will not need anything. While agree that bitcoin savings in the future will give a very huge profits for our descendants.

Well its debatable if bitcoin will rise or fall in near or far future. But it wont hurt to save some for future. But how much is better question. Because if you save small sum for grand children maybe it will be too small amount, I dont think that bitcoin will rise that much so that you can for few bitcoin become rich in future.
Thus still profitable to keep bitcoin until a certain time, namely for the high prices, but already there to be seen, who would get the coin. The main thing that prospects were good.

I believe that Bitcoin will be much more expensive in the future. and it's a good idea to take care of their grandchildren and keep them some Bitcoins.
but so far I have no way to do it. I do not have grandchildren yet

I always keep at least 10 percent of my entire bitcoin in my wallet for my children and hopefully it will last until my grandchildren Smiley  I just don't mind that 10% of my coins in my wallet - so that I will not be tempted to spend or gamble it in the future.
2200  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: February 09, 2017, 12:43:17 PM
Well I don't think that playing gambling should be considered as a sickness,
Maybe some player who are a compulsive gambler is sick but for those who can controll their selves I don't think they are also sick maybe they are just doing it for profit like me and when ever we reach that limit we would just simply stop.

Yes ,not all gamblers who gambling is sick of addicted playing continously without caring about how much money they supposed to be lost . Gambling only considered as a sickness if a person doesn't control himself over gambling activities .

gambling does not have a positive impact, and gambling has many negative effects. so I think gambling is a sickness. most people of his life is broken because of gambling than successful because of gambling and because success in gambling such as 1:1000000

I believe it depends on how bad a person gambles. If the person just gamble for fun and entertainment and not regularly, it is not a sickness. Unless that person gambles regularly and spend his/her lifetime savings as capital for gambling - that is really bad especially if that person lose that life savings from gambling.
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