To me 2080 rtx is the best choice with proper underclock settings. Its a beast on prog pow, mtp, beam, . It only uses 135watts at 60 tdp and hashes a lot.
2080 rtx has better resale value, rtx cores for gaming and more future proof. 2080 does not get talked up a lot bc it does not mine eth that great for cost. Thats the only weakspot but does everything else great.
1660 ti is good choice also but you will need twice as many cards, more space, less future proof. But does great on most algos
yeah i was wondering about this, you can buy 3x 1660Ti cards though for a 2080 , its a tough call normal space is not an issue for even medium size farms since you tend to just replace old cards with new every few years , so the space argument is moot the big question is what is the hash/watt per $$ its 1 2080 rtx as good as two 1660 tis ? actually also you can get a 2060 rtx for close the the price of the 1660ti , and its 10 -15% faster so idk if itsa good deal. The 1660 on the other hand for $200 is the best bang per buck ? |
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I have one question guys.
Curent state of my mining is 6 rx580 8gb on main rig ( hiveos) and 2 rx580 4gb in PC ( windows ).
Since we can use claymore v14 only in windows I tryed with those 2 4gb cards, and the result just blow me away, 32,2mh on fucking 4gb cards (POL4E2@2150) 1200/2200 stock bios.
So the question is how to find those straps that miner is using in real time? If I can read them I can integrate them in bios with polaris bios editor. I was thinking to pull one by one those 8GB cards from rig to PC start v14, find best setting, read those straps, mod the cards and than put them back in rig. That would hopefully be same as runing v14 in linux.
Sorry for bad English, it is not my mother tongue.
So you have to go back to stock bios to use this ? |
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@Eliovp "magic trick" is to disable p6 and p7 core state and stay on p5 core , p6 and p7 jump one soc clock step higher on some men frequency up to (1107soc) (example p7 core clock and p3 mem and your frequency is 830 hbm mem so your step is higher then 800soc so 847soc +"1 soc step" so you will get 900soc if you set p5 core you will get 847soc )
please explain this again , so yo usay on a 56 disable the p6 and p7 states on core then i can set higer memory than the 900 i seem to be capped at ? or you are saying by disabling those two the mem will automatically jump higer ? **edit*** @duck Hellen You are definitely on to something, I disabled the p6 an p7 states for my 4 card Hynix 56 rig and all of a sudden no more crashes or instability, power draw is also good 150 watts from the wall, I’m still at 1100/825mv and 900/825 Hash rate is 42 MHz on eth a bit higer than before. Timing are all the same only thing I did was disable p6 an p7 Can I attempt to bump up the mem now ? |
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Is there any solution for the non ref 56 cards that have a default of 800 mem and can’t go past 900-950?
I got four of these crap cards any thoughts ? Three are red devil 56 power colors and one is a sapphire pulse
There are 2 reasons for the limite OC. 1. Stock timings of V56 cards are tighter, you have to losen them to be able to oc over 950MHz 2. HBM2 voltage is less on V56 cards. You may try flashing the bios from the V64 version of your card, but do it at your own risk. I tied flashing these Powercolors no dice , seems they memory is different even though gpuz says samsung ? Looking at the GPU-Z again , it seems two of the PowerColor Red Devils are Samsung and one is Hynix, the Hynix is the shit card i cant get over 41mhs The Saphire Pulse is Samsung as well. So I'm thinking i should be able to flash all the samsung cards to thier v64 variants ? I think in the past i tried the Hynix one |
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Is there any solution for the non ref 56 cards that have a default of 800 mem and can’t go past 900-950?
I got four of these crap cards any thoughts ? Three are red devil 56 power colors and one is a sapphire pulse
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so vega frontiers still have that error , you can change timing but cant change core or clock
**edit*** I pulled the frontiers but I still have an issue when I try to upload a mod that worked on one card to another identical one if it crashes it seems to never be able to reset the timings , I’ve tried refresh on the tool and home/default and it seems to reset but when I try to run my miners clean with no timings instant bsod.
Somehow the bad timings seem to be stored and won’t reset.
So in a nutshell
-Vega frontiers cannot have men core or fan info changed with the latest 19.4.1 or .4.3 drivers , you get an error. Not supported. I think it’s a code issue because when you try and set the defaults for those cards it shows a pop
Showing a code error.
-after a bad timing crash I have to rinstall drivers all the time , can’t go back to default.
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Even Aion is moving to hybrid pow
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I saw a lot of Vegas but are there settings for RX 580 8Gb and 4Gb ?
thx
I have custom straps for my rx cards, it would be nice to be able to flash them back because right now I have to use older drivers due to signing issues Can someone list a good starting point for 470 Hynix, Samsung and micron cards for eth/xmr Use version 1.4.6 of the pixel patcher - then you can sign newer versions of the driver. I have patched my 19.4.1 install with it. You could use WinAMDTweak --current from your custom bios, then store those timings and use them as a starting point after you have reverted the card back to orig.bios. EDIT: I had to verify what I just mentioned above: I upgraded the driver on my test rig with 2 x RX 570 from 18.6.1 to 19.4.1, patched it and restarted the rig. I then learned I had to upgrade my OverDrivenTool because I no longer had fan control. Great, eh I found version 0.2.8. bet1 and am playing with it as we speak.. Seems like the new driver runs the cards cooler... less power Yay. Hmm , I’ll have to work on this as well tonight as well , cooler is definitely better I can’t find links to the 1.4.6 pixel patcher or winAMDTweak though Are they in this thread? |
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I saw a lot of Vegas but are there settings for RX 580 8Gb and 4Gb ?
thx
I have custom straps for my rx cards, it would be nice to be able to flash them back because right now I have to use older drivers due to signing issues Can someone list a good starting point for 470 Hynix, Samsung and micron cards for eth/xmr |
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Grid tie solar is the only way, you still want to overspec say 50 percent so you have excess power to sell back to utility which offsets your nightly use
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Vegas are shit lol, what’s the point of all this effort to add 5 to 10 percent extra hash and most likely have to reset all your low power use power play settings and stuff?
I just don’t see why it’s worth all the effort. Now if these on the fly timing settings work with Polaris cards which are actually good mining cards on a price / watt basis this would be somewhat interesting
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Is the profit of Veil mining better than other coins? I do not speak about the perspectives, just now
I can't say a lot about that because you must try to tell us how much hashrate you can get and the electricity cost in your country. It's much better to provide more details about that https://whattomine.com/coins/286-veil-x16rtThat link will bring you to the veil mining calculators but i can't say that will 100% accurate. None of the calcs are very accurate tbh, I think they struggle to calc POS blocks too, not sure. All calc estimate I will receive 15-20% more per day than I actually do, regardless of diff. Calcs haven't ever been accurate for this coin. With what you mine Vail? Is it better to invest in some good mining card or to buy vail and stake it? As someone new what should be better option for me? Thanks in advance for any answer. It’s too late to buy gear to mine now, the time for that was back in February Your best bet now is to buy coins on vinex and earn extra coins though stakes |
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Been mining MTP and RVN recently with 2 x1060 rigs. Each rig has 10 GPus and I put one on each coin. A couple weeks ago I had one on GRIN and the other on Aeternity. Making about $3- 3.50 per day with both rigs.
I have a 4x 470 rig mining ETH and making about $0.25 per day. It was a 7 GPU rig but I sold 3 for $300 CDN.
I also have a couple T15s, 3 x Baikal G28s, 1 Baikal x10 and 1 L3+ at Cryptoboreas in Labrador.
After electricity:
T15s : $2.80 to $3.10 each per day. (will take over 2 years to ROI/Break even)
G28s: $2.40 - $ 2.90 each per day. (will take close to 2 years to ROI/Break even)
X10: $.90 per day. ( nearly paid for itself. So, as long it makes more than electrical cost and keeps running, it's easy coinage...but not a huge profit.)
All said, profits are low but still in the right direction. Not bad for a hobby.
you've definitely got the right attitude, I think we need to consistently remind ourselves this is more of a hobby and if our hobby pays for itself and a little extra.. we are doing good lol at least that is what I tell myself xD In the past whenever people were mining as a hobby, usually got enormous payouts if they held most of their coins. Like the people who CPU mined BTC back in 2009-2010, definately not for profits and difficulty was very low. Same with the people who GPU mined ETH back in Q4 2015, back then you could of made like 1 ETH per GPU per day and nobody was mining back then because it looked like ETH was a fad that was going to $0. This might be a repeat however in my opinion, and if BTC ever hit $50000 and ETH hits $2000 then the payouts would of been worth it. However the cycle has to stop sometime. Bingo!! Ppl who cry about low profits are dumping daily or on small pumps and crying about mining being dead Why don’t u hold your crypto for a couple of years then see what your profits are |
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If u have free power maybe , that wattage is atrocious lol , anything for sponsor clicks I guess lol
A 2080 kills it in every algo except eth (dying) xmr(/shrug) and uses half or less in power
300 ways for 90mhs of eth even is trash to me, 3 470s worth half the price of that Vega 7 do same hash at less power.
The 2080 is a far better gpu
Yep on mtp zcoin im getting 3.5 - 3.6 mhash @ 150 watt 65 tdp. This spanks the vega vii which according to vosk does 3.3 @ 265 watt @ $700 Plus you can get a 2080 rtx amp on b@h for $650 now on sale today. Vosk you need to do a review of the 2080 rtx and show people the light. Need to change this title also to 2080 rtx best most efficient gpu ever! Dont forget to count other power consumption cpu+mobo+,ram, even at 3.5mhs/150w only got 1.1$ still suck compared vega 56 which is 1.4$ at the same power consumption 650$ vs 300$ card lol, on different algo, radeon vii still the best at this very moment vosk dont know how to use it Another AMD team fanboy. I'll check those stats tonight i find it hard to believe a vega56 out beats a 2080rtx. I did use mtp as a comparison but mtp is not the most profitable coin to mine. Raven/Grin appears to be at the moment for team green. And even if you are right which i doubt. I still got ray tracing for games or doing some visual production work on my spare time. Something to really consider if mining ends up being unprofitable your going to have much higher resale value with team green *update i checked what to mine* Not even 2x vega 56 can outbeat a 2080 rtx at a very cheap electric rate of 0.08 cent according to whattomine. 1 vega 56 card gives 79 cents income before electric and 31 cents after electric. 2080 rtx gives $1.10 before electric and 74 cents after electric. If your electric rate is higher than 8 cents the 2080 rtx will simply outperform even more. You must be one of those trolls living in your moms basement with free electric Or stealing it from the neighbors lol |
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Is this now a thread for shilling coins? I thought this was more for hardware and mining software discussing
It's for shilling since they have bounty for bct forum, you can see profiles with veil signature shitposting everywhere.Funny how they forget to mention what shitshow pos activation was and that devs and people close to them collected most of the blocks This thread is about Veil - Which you can mine and stake. It's an exciting project getting back to the core of CryptoCurrencies which is privacy. - No premine or ICO - Not some shit-token running ERC20 - It has it's own blockchain, wallet, mining protocol, zerocoin implementation... "devs and people close to them collected most of the blocks" - That is impossible.There is a current circulating supply of ~12million. After the 1st year there will be ~52 Million. So even if the Dev team collected the majority of current blocks - It's only like 1/5 of the supply after a year. Fair Launch, No Ico, and minable is what has me very attracted to this project...Wrong there is no ICO but there is a premine, the founder gets 10% of all coins as well as premine via superblock every month bad research and info dude Still, compared to other projects right now it is nothing. They are asking millions of dollars and even after getting that they hold the %40-45 to themselves  Veil didn't ask any funds and i think %10 is fair. Hate to bust you bubble I like veil but the founder takes 10 percent devs take another 10 to 15 and then the veil labs also takes another close to 20 percent. So between the founder , dev fund and dev payments 40 percent of the emission is spoken for leaving the investors to battle for the remaining 60 percent which is actually an ever shrinking price of the pie since 40 percent of emission staking compounds the centralized ownership worse than a pure pow coin. Veil is no different in emission that other premined coins like eth etc , it’s just hidden better lol OK. Except your missing the fact that most of these premined coins also raised millions ontop of the ridiculous dev funds. I don't see how this project could operate without a Dev fund since they raised a huge 0. Founders need a reason to stay founded and grounded And Labs is something you can read about. Project needs money somehow. Do you have a better idea? Maybe they should host an ico  Ok I get what you are saying, they raised no external funds so it’s in thier interest to grow and develop the blockchain software or they can’t cash in. That makes sense , full disclosure I do support veil although I feel the devs and founder hold too much |
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Is this now a thread for shilling coins? I thought this was more for hardware and mining software discussing
It's for shilling since they have bounty for bct forum, you can see profiles with veil signature shitposting everywhere.Funny how they forget to mention what shitshow pos activation was and that devs and people close to them collected most of the blocks This thread is about Veil - Which you can mine and stake. It's an exciting project getting back to the core of CryptoCurrencies which is privacy. - No premine or ICO - Not some shit-token running ERC20 - It has it's own blockchain, wallet, mining protocol, zerocoin implementation... "devs and people close to them collected most of the blocks" - That is impossible.There is a current circulating supply of ~12million. After the 1st year there will be ~52 Million. So even if the Dev team collected the majority of current blocks - It's only like 1/5 of the supply after a year. Fair Launch, No Ico, and minable is what has me very attracted to this project...Wrong there is no ICO but there is a premine, the founder gets 10% of all coins as well as premine via superblock every month bad research and info dude Still, compared to other projects right now it is nothing. They are asking millions of dollars and even after getting that they hold the %40-45 to themselves Veil didn't ask any funds and i think %10 is fair. Hate to bust you bubble I like veil but the founder takes 10 percent devs take another 10 to 15 and then the veil labs also takes another close to 20 percent. So between the founder , dev fund and dev payments 40 percent of the emission is spoken for leaving the investors to battle for the remaining 60 percent which is actually an ever shrinking price of the pie since 40 percent of emission staking compounds the centralized ownership worse than a pure pow coin. Veil is no different in emission that other premined coins like eth etc , it’s just hidden better lol |
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Is this now a thread for shilling coins? I thought this was more for hardware and mining software discussing
It's for shilling since they have bounty for bct forum, you can see profiles with veil signature shitposting everywhere.Funny how they forget to mention what shitshow pos activation was and that devs and people close to them collected most of the blocks This thread is about Veil - Which you can mine and stake. It's an exciting project getting back to the core of CryptoCurrencies which is privacy. - No premine or ICO - Not some shit-token running ERC20 - It has it's own blockchain, wallet, mining protocol, zerocoin implementation... "devs and people close to them collected most of the blocks" - That is impossible.There is a current circulating supply of ~12million. After the 1st year there will be ~52 Million. So even if the Dev team collected the majority of current blocks - It's only like 1/5 of the supply after a year. Fair Launch, No Ico, and minable is what has me very attracted to this project...Wrong there is no ICO but there is a premine, the founder gets 10% of all coins as well as premine via superblock every month bad research and info dude |
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If u have free power maybe , that wattage is atrocious lol , anything for sponsor clicks I guess lol
A 2080 kills it in every algo except eth (dying) xmr(/shrug) and uses half or less in power
300 ways for 90mhs of eth even is trash to me, 3 470s worth half the price of that Vega 7 do same hash at less power.
The 2080 is a far better gpu
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There should be a ban on this forum for any preorder shill greater than three month
And if that. Vendor has missed deadlines by more than six months they should be blacklisted
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