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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon releases 3 kinds of A10 ETH Miner 365MH/s 432MH/s 485MH/s
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on: July 22, 2018, 06:05:39 PM
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it's about $5000 for the 485MH model
it's about $4400 for the 430MH model
it's about $3800 for the 365MH model
Source: Article in this thread, translated and converted from Euros.
So basically they doubled the price of the E3 to give you double the hashrate in the 365MH model with better power efficiency.
Those that got $800 E3's would be wise to just sell theirs right now for a little less than what a new one costs.
11x series will beat that efficency and is more flexible, 5k on an eth only miner is risky with new gpus comming out in next 6 months. Remeber current gpus are 3 years old, all these eth asics show is they asic developers have better asics replacing these so they are dumping |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Innosilicon releases 3 kinds of A10 ETH Miner 365MH/s 432MH/s 485MH/s
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on: July 22, 2018, 05:27:49 PM
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This saves roughly $1000 USD a year for 485mh/s at $0.10/kwh using Rx 570 efficiency.
This 2x efficiency gap can be closed with a node shrink. It also does not offer price/perf improvements (but depends how low inno can sell it), and next gen GPUs will have better price/perf.
gtx 1170 $499, 60mhs, 120w, 0.5khs per 1 watts, 8.3 usd per 1mhs, 8 gtx 1170 = 480mhs, 960 watts, $4000 + motherboard + cpu + psu and other things $5000. a10 $5k for the 485mhs 850w, 0.57khs per 1 watts, 10.3 usd per 1mhs The a10 will be the same as 8 gtx 1170, gtx 1170 will hold resale value, although the idea of this asic is good, is just too late for the party but as always, they have been mining with them for sometime, so they will get roi, the people who buys this, no. if amd releases a rx 680 with gddr6, hashrate wise will be pretty much the same, price point i guess $299. the asic is hassle free, plug and play, nvidia is not as bad as amd, so nvidia is easier to manage but gpu mining as always is horrible, too many parts, too many things to do, a lot of work, so is a hard choice here, lot of work with resale value or plug and play and forget resale value. gtx 1170 availability, September. how did u know bout gtx1170 hsrate? The next Amd cards will be based off the vega 20 , which is 7nm Where do you get the rx 680? I agree the 1170 will do 50 to 60mhs , the 2000 dollar volta previw cards that came out last year did 90mhs |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Good time to buy GPUs?
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on: July 20, 2018, 06:09:22 AM
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i prefer you buy when ether low. since that impact on rig model. today gpu is cheap and that you must look too impact of dollar to your real currency. as i used now is old. and already selling because im do developing. what i seek is. what make good that rigs by algos. example cryptonote. what good for that gpu mining. or x11 or many more algo by compabilty of VGA. old times i used 1050 and now i sell them for masternodes installing.
gpus are not cheap, cheap was $240 for an 8gb 580 , 375 for a 1070 |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My residential Solar + Mining farm
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on: July 19, 2018, 05:49:08 AM
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hey im in the process of specing out a 100 panel 300 watt solar array and also installing
the panels myself, I am debating on doing it using microinverters for each panel to supply full ac power rather than dc and then connect that to my sub panel.
any thoughts on this ?
From what I understand; Microinverters cost more and greatly improve performance in shading / partial shading conditions. They also allow for panel level diagnostics. They have more points of failure which is good and bad. Good because you know exactly what to fix and it doesn't knock out a whole string. If you have shading issues, then absolutely consider them. Otherwise, String inverters have lower capital cost and higher rate of return. I do have shading issues on my garage which i plan to put 40 of the panels up on , my neigbor has a large tree, sometimes during the day it shadows parts of my mining garage roof. The main house which has no shading issues is very high , and can handle at least 8 panels since its so big and unshaded , maybe go with string connectors there but again its hard to access the roof, a bad string of panels would be a nightmare to fix. my plan is to use 20 or 30 of the 80 main house panels for the house and run the rest back to the mining garage via conduit and berried cable. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My residential Solar + Mining farm
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on: July 19, 2018, 05:43:31 AM
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String inverters have lower capital cost and higher rate of return.
For this sole quoted reason, I avoid microinverters. Theres lots of products out there that claim to optimize your panels along with many other features, but when it comes down to it, just step back and assess your purpose for building your solar array. My opinion is that if you are in it to offset mining electricity costs and turn a decent profit then go with string inverters. If you are a efficiency hobbyist or a green peace person then go with microinverters. Yea i was told by supplier the micro inverters add at least $120 to the cost of each panel the fear of string connectors is if one panel or connector has an issue , breaks dies or loses connection the entire array becomes compromised. Thats a big issue for me becuase my roof is really high, it could take days to get someone up there to fix it |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Crazydane's 32 kw solar array build feeding 16 kw worth of miners
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on: July 19, 2018, 03:34:22 AM
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@crayzdane
hey im in the process of specing out a 100 panel 300 watt solar array and also installing
the panels myself, I am debating on doing it using microinverters for each panel to supply full ac power rather than dc and then connect that to my sub panel.
any thoughts on this ? I got a qoute from alibaba for 100 290 watt mono panels with mounting stuff and the micorinverts already drilled and connected to the solar panel mounts underside for $10k or so( that
exculdes the ac connectors since i have to send measurements of my garage roof first) any
i am in the us so i suppose I can basically do most of my stuff like yours, only issue is i live in the city and i need permits and stuff. I like the idea of having a separate sub panel for the solar but i have huge panels and alot of room in them so probably no need?
one question I have is why 20 amp instead of 30 amp breakers to fees into your main panels
I have three 200 amp panels myself but my goal is no have everthing run off the solar array if it can so
how can I connect all the panels to the mains instead of direct to brreakers? That way I dont have to pick and choose what gear runs off solar attached brrakers or am I totally wrong in my thinking?
basically all i want is during the day my pannels power as much as my eqipment as they can basically max load from solar load balanced with grid power if the solar ia insufficient, as solar powet wanes more load it covered by the grid. All this is independant of what outlets i am using
thoughts ?
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: My residential Solar + Mining farm
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on: July 19, 2018, 03:18:27 AM
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Very cool. I also have a residential solar system to assist with power cost for mining. I pay a flat rate of $0.12 per kWh year round. Currently have 84 260W panels and am in the process of adding an additional 48 280W panels. The 84 panels produced the following numbers for me this summer:
March 2,391 kWh
April 2,121 kWh
May 2,268 kWh
June 2,578 kWh
July 2,846 kWh
August 2,475 kWh
September 2,172 kWh
October 2,152 kWh
My usage last month was 6,644 kWh, so the 48 additional panels will help, but I'll need another 100 panels at least to "break even". And since I also constantly add miners, I don't think I'll ever "catch up".
I do all the work myself, so the cost is pretty close to $1 per watt and I get 30% Federal tax credit, so that makes it closer to $0.70 per watt.
hey im in the process of specing out a 100 panel 300 watt solar array and also installing the panels myself, I am debating on doing it using microinverters for each panel to supply full ac power rather than dc and then connect that to my sub panel. any thoughts on this ? I got a qoute from alibaba for 1000 290 watt mono panels with mounting stuff and the micorinverts already drilled and connected to the solar panel mounts underside for $10k or so( that exculdes the ac connectors since i have to send measurements of my garage roof first) any thoughts ? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD)
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on: July 18, 2018, 06:21:35 AM
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Exactly. The coinwarz eth difficulty chart is much more accurate and gives you a better picture of what is actually happening right now. I'm actually surprised that ETH difficulty hasnt skyrocketed yet. It's probably because bitmain already turned on these E3 ASICs months ago.
They would have to ship more than 100 THOUSAND miners to move the difficulty by 10%. Even for Bitmain that's a lot of miners. The E3 is not going to have an impact on that chart anytime soon. probably the F3 going live, they are supposed have hashrates around 1500mhs, they dump the e3s on yall while they cut over to the f3 farm slowly as to not spook eth devs |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator
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on: July 16, 2018, 05:47:46 AM
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Just want to make sure I’ve got this right so far.
No word how these things boost pure ETH mining, if at all, right?
Read the fine website! There is a table below the Acorn products that tell you what kind of gains you might see. If you are ONLY mining ETH, then the CLE-101 is the Acorn for you. And what it does is not so much give you huge boost in your hash rate, but reduce the power consumed. http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-101/http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/faq/On both pages above, scroll down for the details. On the first link, there is a table with info about hash rates and power use. On the second page (the FAQ) there are some answers about how many Acorns you would need based on type of card (low-/high-end). So based on the numbers listed. Being conservative. Say an 8GPU rig making 230MH ETH @1100w (what I have) $0.12848 per kWh (what I have) should use at minimum 2x CLE-101 @ cost of $400 Hashrate boost of 10% (250MH), power dropped to 75% (825W) Power saving work out to be about $25 less per month. Money earned from an extra 20MH is another $0.65 or so 400/25.65 = about 15.5 months... Seems like that $400 is put to better use just buying more cards That’s exactly what I said, and this doesn’t factor in the price of new motherboards with more pcie lanes mem and cpu |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator
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on: July 15, 2018, 04:40:25 PM
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the jury is out anyways on weather it will be better to buy next gen cards vs these fpga deals too many moving oarts imo, need new motherboards specific cpus etc , how bout i grab a gtx 1180 for $600 that hashes at stright up twice the hash rate of an 1080 and worry about fpga later when new 8 card boards with better features come out.
It makes no sense to replace hardware (mother boards and cpus) with new gear unless you are building a new system or app specific boards are released.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator
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on: July 15, 2018, 06:27:27 AM
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alll risers support 3.0 (x1). well if motherboard support only 2.0, than the riser will do 2.0 as well.
Its simple the usb3 cables dont have the quality to negotiate pcie 3.0, think about it usb3 cables are made for 8b/10b same as what pcie 2.0 run, but pcie 3.0 use 128b/130b. Now there is faster standards like USB 3.1 Gen2 or USB 3.2 that do use 128b/130b but i would imagine that they also have much shorter cables, and its not cheap  EDIT: Already at pcie 2.0 these usb risers suck, if you have problems with gpu fallen of the bus errors in your syslog, and your gpu's are not too much clocked, you can usualy fix it by forcing pcie 1.0, so the risers are iffy even for 2.0, you say they can 3.0 I say NO ! 8/10 vs 128/130 has absolutely nothing to do with this. That is simply the encoding for DC Balancing/ensure there is a periodic bitflip on the transcievers so they can stay locked. It was changed in PCIe 3.0 due to improved transceivers and to lower overhead. Also for everyone checking lspci - most GPUs now adays are designed for low-power idle. They run the link at x1 unless they are actually being used for transfer! Run a bandwidth heavy test or activity and run lspci, you’ll see LnkStatus kick up to 3.0 (8 Gbps) We just spent weeks testing dozens of risers and slots on 3 dozen motherboards. I haven’t found a single riser that can’t sustain PCIe 3.0 speeds. While monitoring PCIe for any errors. I have, however, found crap “mining” motherboards that have PCIe errors on their slots even with a x1 device plugged straight in. I’ll take that actual testing over your anecdote. Software (miner) and APIs: This is a Pre-Order for the hardware. The software will launch with the hardware shipping late August. We’ve already asked devs to reach out for API and SDK information that will be available before launch. Developer boards haven’t even been sent out yet to other devs. darn so to use the miners you have to have acorn running ? so if you have say one nest acord adaptor board with 1 or two acorn installed would the miner be implemented for all cards on the rig or only the acorn boosted gpus? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator
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on: July 15, 2018, 03:59:24 AM
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My check out was very quick, and surprisingly doing an ACH wire online was simple enough. The second order was faster than Pp because the ACH recipient was already setup. The $25 fee sucked but that's the price of business. Could of been worse with high shipping like some other had to face.
Im more interested in thier fee free software that they say can mine any algo? huh? |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD)
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on: July 14, 2018, 05:24:23 PM
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Which pool would be ideally the best for the E3?
I'm willing to bet that basically any Ethash pool should work on the E3, Z9 mini only supposedly had issues because it was submitting shares extremely quickly compared to GPUs and the pool would reject shares from the miner as a result. I think until you get your $1876+ back, +power costs, pool fees and software fees, this asic will turn into $15 scrap metal, as many other models did. With gpus you will lost much less.
You're forgetting the many people who bought the E3 at $800- even with today's mining environment, the break even time at that price and $0.10/kWh electricity is still well under a year as of now and likely won't explode as much as previous algos without ASICs like X11- the E3 isn't a lot more powerful than a GPU rig and some fine-tuned GPU rigs can outperform the E3 in both power and hashrate performance, though I do agree difficulty will indeed rise and profitability will drop, although I don't think it'll be as much as algos like X11 or Blake2b in the past. The asic manufactures seem to have learned from thier cryptonite mistake now they slowly add hidden hash instead of destorying the hashrate too fast |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Everyone who thinks ASICs are taking over should read this
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on: July 13, 2018, 05:39:48 PM
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New coins will keep being introduced that are practical for CPU and GPU mining, even if only for the short term. A agree that ASICs are not a great investment, unless you are Bitmain. But with ETH going to PoS soon, GPUs will be less profitable next year.
I'm hedging my bets on FPGAs for the long term. They can run at a fraction of the power demands of typical GPUs, and has as fast as ASICs with the proper algorithm.
Yes ETH going PoS is greater danger then any ASIC of FPGA simply because of the number of GPUs on it. Unless half of those then simply sell their rigs. In that case its not so bad at all. I also see FPGA as the future, but until they are mass produced affordable and can be operated by the average Joe, not so much. By the time ETH goes POS, all of those GPUs mining it will be obsolete anyway. If ETH disappeared tomorrow, the 570s, 580s, 470s, 480s would have nowhere to go. Maybe cryptonight algos. actually 580s and 570s can still mine lyra ok and x16 at lower power than eth takes as long as your cards are paid off , keeping them is still viable i have 290x and 390x cards that are 4 and 8gb and still mining eth. Nex year i plan to buy a crate of 330 watt solar panels and slowly start phasing them in , power use is the most important aspect when it comes to mining. plus remeber if u run it as business even when running at home you can deduct all the hardware and power costs as a business expenses so in honesty it doesn’t matter what your power cost is as long as u are in the green |
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