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the just released a patched version 1.09b
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Iam wondering if nobody else got wrecked from the ongoing security update in windows?
Running since 4 Months with Windows updates disabled but the last update happend was not stoppable.
Any ideas how to block windows "restart for updates"?
Ive to restart my rigs through the cmd to not force the update on restart. Any ideas how to prevent this or delete the ongoing update on restart?
had updates disabled and defender for years who needs them on a dedicated mining box disable them using gpedit.exe |
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Thinking of shutting down thread. Gpu mining is in sad shape.
Thoughts everyone?
Looks like Metroid called it.
Well I mean the thread is called the Alt Coin Thread, not the GPU thread. The people who are going to sit there and wring their hands about asics and any other technology that outperforms GPUs are going to be left behind. The reality is that the more valuable the coin is, the more research and resources will be dedicated to inventing more efficient miners. Don't get me wrong, GPU mining is far from dead, but with current profits I think we are well past the point of lively discussions about finding solutions to cramming as many GPUs as humanely possible into a single rig. Another reality is that it seems like the most profits are made on young and promising coins that are rising in value. Can anyone name a new coin in the last 6 months that hasn't been an absolute shitcoin? To make matters worse, any new coin that does come out with promise, dies as soon as multipools like zpool add it and drive up the difficulty, switch to something else, rinse and repeat. I think things will improve by the time nvidia releases their new cards, but until then I think thinking outside of the GPU box is the key to profitability. mining these so called shicoins or basically any gpu profitable coins and holding for six months or a year mining and dumping is the asic way since they are basically op and can mine so many coins a day. me im mining a combo of gpu only coins on some rigs , eth and monero on amd and vega but holding all my extra coins instead of investing in new hardware. diff goes up oh well just mine and hold, trying to match difficulty and hashrate with these over inflated gpu prices is a losing game. if i do buy new gear it will be 11x series card if retail is the listed price and vega 20 next year |
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Well, the E3 hasn't been shipped yet so I guess it can't be very old.
About the F3 I couldn't find anything except rumours and tons of different hashrates - is there any official statement about the estimated hasrate and the price?
Secret asics are only known to people who work inside bitmain's warehouse, not even bitmain's partners know about them, they are very secret. That f3 was a leak and probably the person who leaked is dead hehe lol yup six feet under |
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Thinking of shutting down thread. Gpu mining is in sad shape.
Thoughts everyone?
Looks like Metroid called it.
You just need AMD rigs, Phil. My 570's and Vegas are going strong, mining Cryptonightv7. As I (and others) called it a few months ago, it's the nVidia-"friendly" algos that are getting annihilated. All ASIC territory now. If you haven't already, you should read the article the CEO from Sia wrote this weekend. Enlightening. I'll try to find it and post a link. eth is more profitable for nvida with eth enlargement as well as for rx cards cryptonite is still below ethereum in profitablity at least for now |
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I was thing to buy a machine to Buy something like that:
mainBoard: Asus z270-a
CPU a Celeron no more than 50€
6 AMD MSI RX580 8g Armor
plus 4Gb mem ram
PLus the risers for the grapgic cards
and a good PSU
the investment is arround 3000€ and the electricity here is around 0.13kw/h, so to pay my investment I will take more than 1year, so in my opinion is not worthed.
But Anyway this hardware is good or there is better with te same amount??
Yes this is a good setup, the only issue is that the RX GPUs are all overpriced. In most markets it's priced as double from the original MSRP when they came out about 2 years ago. Sometimes it might be a better deal just to get some Nvidia GPUs which are slightly more power efficient and they usually have a higher demand with gamers when it comes time to liquidate. id wait till the 11 series gpus come out to buy |
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I used 109 last night and it did the first dev fee at 1% but the second one it did 22.0877%.
[NOTICE ] 18/05/13 07:16:59 Shares: 1129 (A:99.65%, R:0.35%), Diff:0.612, 62.99MH/s, 124ms - OK
[NOTICE ] 18/05/13 07:17:08 Shares: 1130 (A:99.65%, R:0.35%), Diff:0.557, 62.99MH/s, 124ms - OK
[DEV ] 18/05/13 09:58:34 Mining some dev fee 1.00501%
[DEV ] 18/05/13 12:29:03 Done mining dev fee.
[DEV ] 18/05/13 12:29:03 Ratio: 22.0877%
[INFO ] 18/05/13 12:29:06 zealot/enemy-1.09a miner
[INFO ] 18/05/13 12:29:06 NVIDIA CUDA 9.1
[INFO ] 18/05/13 12:29:06 Dev fee is 1.0%
[NOTICE ] 18/05/13 12:29:06 MAIN POOL----------------------------------------------
It wasn't mining on my pool for 5+ hours. Seems like it just paused from 7:17 until 9:58. Then mined dev fee for 2 and a half hours. I'd post screen grabs but I think I'm too new to post pics.
wow this could be huge, 2.5 hr def fee? |
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looking at the price of a coin in the market, it becomes clear that the project failed at least at this stage, despite this I believe that the project's salvation lies in the leadership of one person and a change in the road map
its not even on a real exhange, how do you expect the price to rise |
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Why even bother mining for a few pennies- dollars per day. All the time you spent doing research, setting up your gear etc, you could just make a lot more money working a regular job. It makes zero financial sense.
While I agree mining is not as profitable as it used to be, doing research and setting up your gear doesn't take so much time (if you know what your are going). You can easily be working a regular job in parallel to mining. Mining is a set and forget operation. Once set properly, you can forget about it and do other things. As long as you have a profitable margin, that is. I quit my job to mine instead of buying or mining a bit on the side and just holding and I regret it to this day, Im going back to work in the next few months and have stopped buying gear for months now. after the monero exposure its clear to me that the big guys control all the hashrate and they are the reason for our decreasing profablity. If at least coin devs cared and forked them off i would have some interest but its clear the devs in general are in bed with these guys. Buying crypto as an investment is the way to go in this environment just like you said we have to sell so much crypto to pay for mining costs which defeats the purpose. Hodling is how real money is made. op is harsh but spot on |
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many frequent forks stop all asics dead. hash growth limits stop super farms of gpus. I figure 400,000,000 gpus are out there right now that can mine a coin at a profit. if ½ are big player and ¼ are small players ¼ or 100,000,000 are tiny one or 2 card machines. This is a board broad adoption base to be nurtured not killed off. If you don't believe this you are the type of person that will always be dissatisfied with life and generally always be somewhat annoyed and unhappy.So anyone reading above and feeling pissed off about that sentence I just wrote in bold I am talking to you.  I know that sentence will anger quite a few people that want an asic takeover of all coins. My gut tells me asic manufacturers will come up with a cheap FPGA instead if this persist. GPU miners need to do some soundproofing and they can run asics actually. Just my 2 cents. they will bu fpga by design can never be as power as a dedicated asic chip designed for a single purpose which in turn limits the hashrate they can muster by a large factor. Remeber fpgas needs alot of ram as welll as generic programable chips with multiple pathways |
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- Now supporting failover pool! It is now possible to add additional pools incase your main pool loses stratum connection. Here is an example for your .bat file:
z-enemy -a x16r -o stratum+tcp://ravenminer.com:6666 -u RFQXKVKpHMwyJ86YqQUJSZK1S8m8oRbC5h -p d=16 -o stratum+tcp://krawww-miner.eu:3636 -u RFQXKVKpHMwyJ86YqQUJSZK1S8m8oRbC5h -p d=3
This i really good. What's the failover mechanism? like once it's switched to secondary pool, how long does it take to re-connect to the main pool? thats my issue with failover, it does not seem to ever switch back to the primary pool |
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Maybe some not so good news here:
It seems Zcash is going with tweaking the algo and not forking for now. Result will be mostly the same, asic resistance .....
. link? |
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Thats not Bitmain`s work, Bitmain was not fast enough this time. That hashrate is all Baikal`s work, they have been using(and producing) their machines since december and sold them once information about Monero`s fork became available. Yah I think 3 or 4 companies have came out with Cryptonight asic miners. The ironic thing is that these forks will actually drive companies like bitmain to make the miners and never sell them to the public, thus causing real centralization. Most of the people who complain are those who spent a lot on GPUs and refuse to adapt to the future. dumbass the monero fork is the only reason we know about these asics we needed to flush them out idiot, now we know what the normal hash rate for monero should be around 500 gh if we see big jumps in succession we will fork thier doorstops again rinse repeat until they stop makikg asics for those resistant coins and make fpgas which cost way more and can never as powerful the battle has been joined and we will not fold just watch |
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Market cap will be higher close to Ethereum if they achieve all the phases in the video. This is easily $5-$10 per Rvn, could be more.
If Ravencoin had the same valuation as Ethereum currently does, it would be ~$3.50 per coin. I think this is probably the best case scenario. A more reasonable expectation might be that it reaches the valuation of NEO, which would put it at ~$0.21 per coin. I think a low end expectation would be that it has the valuation of something like Nano, which would be ~$0.04 per coin. I personally believe we will see it reach somewhere in the $0.12-$0.14 range before the end of the year, possibly with spikes much higher as supply is still very low and there are many exchanges left to bring new buyers to the table. At the current valuation per coin, if you consider coins to be mined, Ravencoin would be the 26th largest coin by market cap. math feels wrong here... raven is at 50 million cap eth is at 70 billion cap unless raven cap is listed wrong 70bill /50 million is X1400 or $70 per raven or so if it matches eth cap ever. i expect at least a x30 if all things fall into place for raven which is $1.5 usd like i said ive not verifed the listed marke cap of raven though , and its not like all raven will be released in the next two years even your math seems off Actual investors (sorry ICO folks) look at the total amount that will be in existence, not what exists today. You would be mistaken and in for a world of hurt to evaluate Ravencoin at it's current coin count and not the 21 billion coin total. What about the burn RVNs to create asset? so the market cap on coin market cap for raven is incorrect it should say 1 billion not 50 million, that puts it way into the top 50 coins in value which also means price should hit .1 or higer soon when a real exhange lists it |
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Market cap will be higher close to Ethereum if they achieve all the phases in the video. This is easily $5-$10 per Rvn, could be more.
If Ravencoin had the same valuation as Ethereum currently does, it would be ~$3.50 per coin. I think this is probably the best case scenario. A more reasonable expectation might be that it reaches the valuation of NEO, which would put it at ~$0.21 per coin. I think a low end expectation would be that it has the valuation of something like Nano, which would be ~$0.04 per coin. I personally believe we will see it reach somewhere in the $0.12-$0.14 range before the end of the year, possibly with spikes much higher as supply is still very low and there are many exchanges left to bring new buyers to the table. At the current valuation per coin, if you consider coins to be mined, Ravencoin would be the 26th largest coin by market cap. math feels wrong here... raven is at 50 million cap eth is at 70 billion cap unless raven cap is listed wrong 70bill /50 million is X1400 or $70 per raven or so if it matches eth cap ever. i expect at least a x30 if all things fall into place for raven which is $1.5 usd like i said ive not verifed the listed marke cap of raven though , and its not like all raven will be released in the next two years even your math seems off |
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I think people are living a fantasy if they think any of this is decentralized. If it runs on GPU's the big money has access to GPU's and puts up massive farms. If there are ASIC's the big money orders massive numbers of ASIC's and puts up massive farms. Big money is going to control the networks with the current POW or even POS coins.
That is why I find it interesting that some people are starting to think outside the box about the topic of decentralization, and not about the tools of the trade. Overall that is a positive thing and it will be interesting to see what the brain trust in the community comes up with.
about 400,000,000 million gpus can mine coins at a profit even if ½ are on big farms and ¼ are on small farm that means at least 100 million pcs across the world can mine at a profit. and at least 50 companies sell pcs or gpus with 1 year to 3 year warranties that is decentralized . 1 asic seller or 1 asic sellers selling gear designed to break in under a year is not decentralized. and if ½ go to big guys ¼ to smaller guys and ¼ go to little people with 1 or 2 asics you simply kill off customer base. It is easy to justify buying a pc for 2k that earns 2 bucks a day while you sleep. no gpu mining you buy a shit pc for 500 or less. Asics did not make 2017 the best year in mining profits gpus did. I sold off some more gpus. Still have 18 1080tis left I did buy a lot of LTC3+ I will not buy any asic on a coin being attacked. such as z9 I rathe use btc asic or ltc asic gear. If I believe in a coin such as zcash I would buy some coins . ^ facts , gpus brought back profitablity and INTREST in cryptos again when Asics for scrypt and sha256 we’re destroying it now these greedy lemmings want to jump on the asic train and destroy profitablity and general interest and any semblance of decentralization ?? fuck that im selling all my asics and bitmain will never see another red cent from me |
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but im not paying any damn fee until its atleast competitive with a 1060 for the rx series
It already is competitive - you get 6-8 Mh/s with a Rx 570-580 and the same for a GTX 1060 3GB-6GB. an 8gb 580 is a slight more powerful card than a 1060 with good mem straps and oc a 580 should be like 9 imo |
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I switch from enemy 1.05 to enemy 1.09 and there is about 15% less hash.
Is it normal for 3x 1060, 1x980ti, 1x1070, 1x1070ti, 1x 1050ti to mine 150 coins in 24h? 5 days ago i had about 300 coin per day. last 2 days i have on enemy 1.05 -170 coins and on enemy 1.09 its 150.
lol every heard of difficulty increases? lol these newbs crack me up |
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What is the latest news on ETH going POS? This first batch was very affordable, but it is a race against time.
diff up 5% this month and u still have all of may june and july to wait, by the time these arrive i think eth might be the least profitable thing to mine especially if zcash doesn’t fork , even if it does fork thats still better to have gpus so u can switch algos |
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Thanks, but that's not my question, i'd like to know the hashrate of RX 570 with an ETH bios.
6-8 mh/s thats like the speed of a 1060 for comparison 1070s get 11mhs and 1070ti like 15 these amd miners need a fully rebuilt and optimized kernel not just a copy paste you amd miners paying a fee to mine at the same speed as a 1060 need to stop and got mine xmr and buy raven if you have to lol An Rx 570 is comparable to a GTX 1060 as a lower end/mainstream gaming video card. A GTX 1070 is a whole market level higher, both for gaming and mining. heck no, not on pricing and the performacr on other algos, and what about the 8gb 580s 7 to 8 mhs on raven is total trash when it can get 32 mhs eth , 950 on xmr vs 24 max and 500 max for the 1060 6gb card which doesn’t eveb have and 8gb variant. the 1070 might be higer end but there is a reason 570 and 580s cost $100 more (8gb) than the 1060s. 32 cores vs 36 cores for the 570 580 comparison is not much of a difference. My 570s nitros havecthe same memory as the 580s and within 1% of the same hash rates given the same clocks or memory straps face it these coppied x16 kernels are trash , better to mine eth or xmr for now with kernels that were designed for Opencl The cheapest 6 GB GTX 1060s on newegg are about the same price as the cheapest 4GB RX 580s and about $25 less then the 8Gb RX 480 --- a difference, but not $100 at this point in time. The GTX 1070 is scarce even at $500 so it's pointless to be comparing it to a RX 580 let alone a Rx 570 right now. I agree with you that the AMD RX series does "better" on Ethhash, I disagree with comparing video cards from completely different price segments. Anyways, we aren't mining Ethhash, Cryptonight7, or X16r on our remaining AMD rigs now as there are more profitable options for daily gains. thats all Im saying, with the current state of 16x mining its pointless to mine x16 vs other opencl options since the kernels are optimized. I get the op is trying to fix this but charging a fee for software that is not even fully developed seems scammy. Why dont u optmize the kernals and provide performance within 80 % at least of a 1070 or 100% on par with a 1060 before charging a 2% fee Reread the OP - it's a 1% not 2% fee and if you don't feel this miner is worthwhile then consider that no software is ever "fully developed" and the x16 series might be the only algos that will remain unexploited by FPGAs and ASICs in 2018. AMD cards could be worthless for mining in the next few months if not for a broader range of mining support outside of Ethash and CN. 1% is better than 2% but still high imo, amd will always be kings of xmr so I xmr will always be am option for amd, it would be nice to have a good xr16 miner for amd but im not paying any damn fee until its atleast competitive with a 1060 for the rx series |
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