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221  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is School for? on: December 04, 2019, 01:27:50 PM
School is the best place to make slaves for the future generation millionaires.Where they only teach we have to study well and get a good job but we cannot live better life if we work for someone throughout our life.We also knows that most of the current millionaires even didn't have a degree so it is a proof that we all are lied in school life.

It's not all bad though. I agree on some points and that it somehow restrains free thinking among children, but a lot of things that are essential for their preferred careers are learned or starts with education on schools. The confinement in classrooms and teaching kids to think the same is, for me, an outdated style of teaching. Lots of unneeded information are being forced into childrens minds.
222  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sources of income? on: December 04, 2019, 12:06:10 PM
I don't know if anyone's still mining crypto at this point but that another way to earn. Though it's tricky because you need to have resources for that to work. It's not cheap, especially if you're mining bitcoin. Offering services would one other thing. I think signature campaigns fall under that. Though mostly, it't through trading that i earn btc. It's not much, like i earn every day. There are good days and there are bad days.
223  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Binance sends Death Threats and Shocking pictures to OkEx Staff Member on: December 04, 2019, 10:54:33 AM
I think the OP can include the tweet url of the OkEx employee or the profile url, because we cannot judge without the right sources or facts. I hope the OP can update this thread with the latest posts related to this news.

And i don't think binance would be stupid enough to place such a blatant threat. They know this will blow up in their faces in case this is real and having grown this big, they know all too well to put their reputation on the line. Cz isn't that stupid that he can't control what's happening within his ranks. I doubt this is legit.
224  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: A piece of an advice on: December 04, 2019, 09:17:12 AM
dont believe when other say this year will be bull, or this coin will moon.
they only said what they want or there is a purpose to what they say, the only one who can be trusted is that your own thoughts and those of others are different, you can hear their advice but the choice is still on you.


Simple research and study, basically. We're even fortunate that at this point in time, information is very much accessible to us. A lot of people, especially newbies, depend on other people's predictions and speculations. Don't be like them. It's not their money that'll go up in smokes if you blindly trade based on other people's suggestions. Study and own your decision. You'll learn a lot more with your mistakes when you know what caused them, instead of blaming others because you followed their advice.
225  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Sold my house for buying altcoins need your help on: December 04, 2019, 08:48:54 AM
this is my current investments. do u have any suggestion

20k$ = BNB
20k$ = ADA
20k$ = EOS
20k$ = XEM
20k$ = NEO
10k$ = XRP



All of us here will suggest that you invest in the top 5 coins in the market, but you have done the opposite and this is very intriguing, Bitcoin is going to have a halving, and Ethereum is going to be POS and Justin Sun is making headlines again and they are lot of updates on Tron.
the addition of bitcoin and ethereum is the best thing for now. cus currently bitcoin and ethereum are at a low enough price, you can stock a large amount of bitcoin and ethereum. in that portfolio, I will likely replace XRP. seeing its development from the past until now, makes me think that this coin will not develop quickly in the coming year.
Who knows? Ripple is probably the most different among these coins being centralized in nature. A lot of coins have remained stagnant for a long time but had their own good runs. I don't think it's the end for xrp. Though that takes a lot of guts to do what this guy just did. I mean, if these coins don't moon in a few years and instead drops to new lows, i can't imagine the panic that he, and his family probably, would feel. It's not a very sensible gamble if you ask me.
226  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What's your Bitcoin cash price prediction on: December 03, 2019, 12:42:11 PM
Lol. 4k? Bch holders can only wish that such price surge will happen. I don't think bch will reach even half that in the years to come. The hype about it and roger ver have died down already. Even if they release new statements about forks or updates, that's already been done before. I don't think there's a lot to expect from bitcoin cash anymore regarding it's price.  At this point, at least.
227  Economy / Speculation / Re: Exact reason for the dump on: December 03, 2019, 10:00:35 AM
of course I think no one knows for sure what causes bitcoin prices to go up or down. there are several factors that cause the price of bitcoin to decrease or increase. like the 3 factors mentioned op. but according to me the main factor is the amount of demand and supply. if bitcoin demand increases, the bitcoin price will go up and vice versa. and the number of requests and offers I think is very influenced by news about bitcoin or FUD. people who are affected by FUD will panic selling and this will have an impact on bitcoin price movements.

Well everything is crypto is subject to speculation. That should be pretty clear to most of us by now. It's useless to try to figure out why a certain thing happens here like the price movement, since there are likely several other reasons that led to the decline. And same thing if the price pumps. We can't pinpoint who or what caused it because anything can trigger people's reaction that would then cause a pump or a dump.
228  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading on: December 03, 2019, 09:05:15 AM
It's better to check the trading trading section here dude. You'll find more discussions on trading specifically. Though one thing i can tell you is that never assume that any trade is safe. All trades can  go opposite of what you want it to be. Proper management of expectations is one of the first things that you need to develop to be efficient in trading. I've learned quite a lot in these forums a few years ago about trading and hopefully you'll do the same. Goodluck.
229  Economy / Economics / Re: stupidity is so close to poverty on: December 03, 2019, 04:07:13 AM
stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion.  Grin Grin

Not true. Stupidity is not a social status. We could seem stupid in some context while be expert of some others.
Trump is one of the Stupidest looking president USA ever got, be he'd not be categorized among the worst.
Being poor and rich are mostly vicious cycle. Child of a rich man are rarely poor as they get the opportunity to succeed and second chances to fail from the young age.

I agree. Stupidity is not a social category and some people are not poor because they are stupid. That is offence for poor people and some of them are not responsible for being in that situation and can't help themselves. Person who thinks that poverty and stupidity are the same category obviously doesn't know much about people and life.
Not all poor people are stupid but the stupid people now a day are poor because they don’t have ability to earn money the way they should. Stupid people use to make stupid decisions and they take wrong steps as well. So we should make sure neither to be poor nor to be stupid better be wise and earn money in an attractive way.

Not quite accurate though. If you're talking about it in general, stupidity doesn't always equate to being poor. A rich person isn't always intellectually inclined and we have a lot of rich and powerful to prove that. A diligent person, though not that smart, would always have a shot at making it big. So poverty and stupidity doesn't really go with each other all the time.
230  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Survey: At What Price would you stop investing more money into Bitcoin ??? on: December 02, 2019, 05:56:27 PM
At the prices you have given it actually becomes more attractive to buy Bitcoin as this is what I can say a perfect opportunity looks like for any trader/investor in the market. I think the only time for any investor who is smart enough to stop buying Bitcoin is when it has already pump or it's gradually going up since this is the worst time to participate in any profit taking if you don't have any margin of safety, when prices are going up it only means that traders are already set to sell/offload some of their positions for profit taking and you on the receiving end would just double the risk of not gaining anything.

That's also how i see it. Probably when the price breaches all time high and if it goes well beyond like 30k. I'd find it really risky to buy bitcoin at that point. With the amounts that's in the selection, i think people will just see a good time to stock up. There will be those who'll sell in panic but investors would likely hoard bitcoins even at sub 3k.
231  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, Speculations and FOMO on: December 02, 2019, 01:14:30 PM
FOMO definitely leads to faster growth. This is human psychology. People want fast money right now rather than waiting for investment returns for a long time. I think that's why we're seeing such big pumps and the subsequent sharp decline in digital asset prices.

I do not really consider FOMO for me to approach the market in such a way that there is a news for me to have something to rely on. I base my investment on the money that I have, depending on the market analysis that I think would possibly be true rather than believing in FOMO which is quite not formal for me to trust. If you want a good ROI that is quick and with assurance, then FOMO will not be the best to consider but also add a bit of a research and market analysis of the graphs or behavior of a particular cryptocurrency.

Right. People who usually jumps on the fomo train are those that aren't doing much research about where they'll put their money so they rely on the current trend. These are the people who also are more prone to losing a lot whether in the short or long run. Greed usually is the downfall for anyone who fear missing out a pump. The best thing to do is to keep yourself aware and study where you'll put your money on. That should be pretty basic so you won't lose a lot with fomos and fuds.
232  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to buy 1 bitcoin on: December 02, 2019, 11:27:11 AM
So I own $1000 in bitcoin but I want to invest the remaining amount to accumulate a whole bitcoin.  
With what you have $ 1K, what is left of that amount for you to invest in bitcoin? how can you invest the rest for a bitcoin, while the price of bitcoin is now $ 7300.
need more capital to reach so you can bitcoin.

I think I'm confusing you.  I got $1000 from my bank account and put into bitcoin using coinbase pro.  Now I want to put in whatever is leftover to own a whole bitcoin not just $1000 worth.

If your only goal is to have and accumulate a total of 1bitcoin just keep on cashing in your money on your coinbase pro account and withdraw it to an external wallet, you'll be needing to spend $7,324.91 at the moment minus your current balance which is $1k, you need approximately $6.5k more.

Well the question is a bit confusing anyway. But if he managed to buy 1 btc from money that came out of his bank, the process is pretty much the same. No difference. If your bank has enough balance to buy the remaining amount to get a full btc, then he should already know how to to convert since he's done it already.
233  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Enforcing government regulations on: December 02, 2019, 04:57:42 AM
?

Like you said, the government will and can enforce anything, and they can definitely enforce regulations concerning bitcoin. The "promise(?)"(I didn't know an asset can make promises) of bitcoin isn't that the government wouldn't be able to make regulations, it's that bitcoin would be able to easily bypass those regulations. A digital asset can't magically remove the power of the government to enforce laws.

Right. And right now, most governments are pretty lenient when it comes to bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. I think there's no need to be concerned about it. As you've said, and I agree, governments can enforce any regulation if they want to. And a lot of people also feel a little more comfortable and confident if it comes to this because they're already used to government backed banking systems.
234  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Another terrorist kills people in London on: December 02, 2019, 03:37:56 AM
They should have sticked that tusk up his butt so he doesn't forget what happens when you murder random people in broad daylight. What happened to the good old social justice? In the days of good old British Empire he'd be in stocks for all to see. People would throw garbage at him and spit on him... and then he'd hang.
Instead he'll move into a nice warm cell with 3 meals a day and a clean bed.
 


Well one thing to consider though is that these people most likely are resigned to their fates. They're not rrslly thinking about what's going to happen to them afterwards as they go about their deeds. It's just sad that innocent people have to bear the consequences of a few radicals' ignorance.
235  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH to zero? This guy is dreaming! on: December 01, 2019, 12:54:11 PM
Bitcoin, ethereum and ptetty much all altcoins have their own set of haters and supporters. I'm not even sure why we're giving this guy attention as his statement has been repeated over and over again in the past and the same reason was used already as to why btc will go to zero. The market is free for anyone's speculation, whether it's backed by evidence or not. Better to just ignore.
236  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is impossible to proof that somebody is Satoshi. on: December 01, 2019, 06:14:40 AM
It's not impossible to prove that he is indeed the real Satoshi Nakamoto. There is a ton of evidence, valid evidence that will prove he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. Proving that he can access the wallet which Nakamoto left untouched with tons of bitcoin is strong evidence and if this happen there is no questioning on his identity if he will be able to login to that wallet.


If the person or the group who has access to that or those wallets plan on revealing him/her/themselves, we probably should've know by now. The only thing we'll be able to know is if they or he's willing to let us know. I really think Satoshi is just an avatar and who knows if the one behind him has plans of even going outside. We probably won't believe him if someone claims that even if he has access to the wallet addresses.
237  Economy / Speculation / Re: Aren't we headed towards getting a 10k (or maybe higher) shot again? on: December 01, 2019, 05:36:58 AM
bitcoin always has a surprise at the end of the year and at the beginning of the year, if you don't see it at the end of this year at least look at the beginning of next year, if you see that surprise, I'm ready to accept merit from anyone  Grin
And it seems we got a surprise but it was not what we were expecting, instead of the price going up as people have been speculating for weeks the price has been going down in a dramatic fashion during the last days, and today was especially a surprising day because the price was below 7000 for several hours and then we saw a recovery of the price, I do really hope that the price doesn't go below that but if it does we could be seeing a terrible end of the year for all of those holding bitcoin.
Playing its price on 6k range isnt a terrible year for those who hold some btc into their stashes.As long you dont go for short term then you wouldnt really mind too much on your port.
Its just been common to have these kind of movement as always here on crypto space.There would be dumps then recovery or even a shoot up in price then later on a certain correction happen
then going sideways for long time then suddenly moves either ups and downs.As a supporter you should really be ready and prepared into such situation.
If you are talking about the holders that have been in possession of their coins for years then you are right a price of 6000 is not really a problem for them, but we must recognize that they are an exception, I'm pretty sure that many people that are holding bitcoin today bought it when the price was above 10000 believing that we will see another all time high only to be disappointed once again, so holders like that are in trouble and if they begin to sell because of the panic then the price could crash.


Well it's their problem. People should've learned from 2018 already. It's getting yourself too hyped over btc's movement at a certain point could be very costly in the short run. It seems that the 4th quarter of the year always has a surprise for us. We just don't know if it's a good or a bad one. I don't doubt that 10k can be achieved. We just don't know when and what would cause it. It could be caused by a sudden event or we can gradually get there in time. I'd prefer the latter.
238  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: When next bull run happen?? on: December 01, 2019, 04:41:46 AM
Ater halvening...
i actually saw a chart that shows that the new high came after the halvening
thats what happen in the first 2 halving in the past,but we don't know what will be our future this 3rd time.

we knew how manipulator is running the market so they can cook something greedy again just to bag money.
but of course this is only my idea and maybe serves as warning as well.

well, you are right
making decision based on the past is not smart
but i really think that it will happen not only based on the past but by the chart and the overall situation


That's what happened last year. Everybody's expecting the market to make a bounce back during the last quarter after a whole year of correction. It's been the trend anyways the the majority of the coins make a run during the last quarter of the year. Then bitcoin and alts took a turn for the worse when everyone's expecting it to make a push. Yes, the past halvings did have a positive effect on BTC in the past, but that's not an assurance at all.
239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Friends of Satoshi on: December 01, 2019, 03:03:01 AM
The think of the mystery is everyone just keeps focusing on Satoshi and who that might be.
No one is really searching for people who may have known that person or persons.

There are several people out there. Who do know who Satoshi is and did talk to him at least. Why are we not focusing on those people? the friends?

First of all, what are you even gonna get out of knowing who Satoshi's friends are? Are you expecting to receive bitcoins? And anyone can say they know Satoshi or are friends with him. I'm amused that you seem to be really sold that you've met someone who knows the guy/gal/group. We're not even sure what Satoshi Nakamoto is lol. It's the same as believing people's speculation about the price of BTC.
240  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to safely store big amounts of BTC? on: November 30, 2019, 06:08:10 AM
If I have a large amount of BTC, I will break it down into many wallets. Each wallet will connect to a separate USB to be able to store key keys safely to prevent hackers from entering

It is suggested that huge amount you have you need different wallets to store it. you know, hackers are everywhere and they are prepared on this kind doings so better to have secured wallets. but for me I don't store huge amount on crypto I don't risk all what I have in crypto. I know it is hard to transfer every time I want to trade but I prefer to do it than to risk it in any wallets and think anytime that it is possible to hack and disappear.


Yeah, though if it's a really big amount, I'd invest on a couple of hard wallets like ledger nano or trezor. I won't risk my bitcoins by keeping them in online storages even if I have the private keys with me. A determined hacker will find ways around your private keys and though the likelihood is small, I'm not risking them to be taken from me.


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