This was a no-lose scenario for BCX, just different sorts of wins.
For the most part I would agree with this. But if I were BCX I would find the hit to my reputation a bit hard to reconcile. In the end he just was a lying manipulator. And perhaps this is enough for him to have fun. In the end his credibility was badly damaged by this. BCX! Crusher of Solidcoin! Destroyer of Auroracoin. Played peek-a-boo with Monero. Doesn't really continue the legacy does it? Sure, just depends on the legacy that matters to BCX. All that remains would be for BCX to claim victory. After all, BCX got everything BCX asked for from the outset. We all can see how BCX's crushing might of brute force hashing, summonable on command plus a deep history of expert TW assaults and DDoS capability of BCX's repute, has forced the hand of the XMR dev team to alter their commits just to address this threat. That the DEV team also came to BCX, hat in hand, asking publicly for help from BCX shows their both humility and single-minded dedication to the success of their project. They dropped all pretense of ego, all they care about is tight code. They seem willing to admit that given enough power, the block chain, any block chain, can be overwhelmed. They did manage to raise the barricades a good bit, and battened down the hatches with their decentralized and nimble checkpointing innovation. This would make any TW dependent attack much more costly to BCX with much less disruptive effect. XMR is in the crib, in the years to come it will have to contend with much greater adversaries than BCX. It was born out of a litter of CryptoNote alts, had a brief foster parentage with TFT, and now has a strong well balanced family of its own with its current team. There is no perfect offering, XMR just managed to achieve "best yet", and within the 72 hours of the BCX challenge issued. Other baby alts would be wise to follow this leadership in TW defenses. There are TLAs more powerful than BCX. Thanks to BCX, XMR is a bit more ready for those challenges to come. I dont see anyone saying this and im not sure why, but honestly perhaps we should be thankful to bcx. Things grow stronger when tempered with adversity and the necessity to overcome challenges. And like you said, bigger threats will come yet, so bcx in a way is helping us to get prepared for what is inevitably to come. We should all send him a big thankyou card for helping us to stress test the network. Or am I missing something? |
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My wife is packing her stuff already, shes leaving me, fuck fuck FUUCKKK it will take me eternity to make things right. No more gambling,ever,again.
That's not the right lesson. Everything in life is a gamble. You cant not gamble. If you put your money in dollars you are gambling on dollars. If you put it in bitcoin you are gambling on bitcoin. The lesson is MAKE SMART BETS. A mathematically demonstrable negative expected return on investment is not a smart bet. There is no way the scope of this problem is limited to gambling. It has to be a symptom of something else not the problem its self. There is no way that you could have tendencies that would compel you to bet on something that you know has a negative expected return on investment and have that be the only negative manifestation of said tendencies in your life. I would bet a million dollars on that and it would be a smart bet. If you cant identify why you would make a decision that you know is bad on an intellectual level, than your life is going to be shit in general for 1000 reasons gambling only being a small part of it. But im just some guy talking out of his ass. I dont have any fancy papers on my wall accrediting me to give this advise. So take it for what its worth. I would see a therapist, maybe he/she will be able to help you find the root cause of what ever is causing you to make decisions that you know are bad. |
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And my life is over, bye.
Or maybe its the learning opportunity that you needed in order to turn your life around. You have the opportunity to turn this awful event into the best thing that ever happened to you. You just have to chose for it to be that. |
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Why did i do it..... WHYYYY!!!!!!
Do you want to hear the truth? |
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That's funny, but just buy a ruby emerald or sapphire engagement ring. As long as it cost a fuck ton of money, she isn't going to refuse to marry you just because her giant rock is blue instead of clear. |
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Off to bed. I hope I can't be blamed for what happens while I'm asleep.  |
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So, in any case, to break the ice, I think exhausting crowdfunding via Kickstarter and Anon should be a priority and DEFINITELY precede any further discussion of more controversial funding methods.
My offer stands. |
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This thread is for discussion related to monero. I will be moderating this thread. If you are a troll or fudster don’t bother posting here, your post will be deleted. To all others, welcome.
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There has to be some way to terminate this thread forever. Or at least to prevent spammers from injecting their obvious deceits.
I would be willing to moderate for atleast a little while on a self moderated thread. Though im sure I would eventually grow tired of that job and have to pass on the torch. Anyone can create a thread. If it becomes popular, good on you. The official thread will remain unmoderated for now. Other communication channels will be added, in time. I agree that the original thread should remain unmoderated. I just think it might be nice to have a moderated alternative. Go for it. I'll subscribe. You can always lock it later and pass the torch, as was done for the Hall-of-Fame thread. Cool. Sure ill go ahead and make it. If no one uses it than its not like I made a huge investment. |
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There has to be some way to terminate this thread forever. Or at least to prevent spammers from injecting their obvious deceits.
I would be willing to moderate for atleast a little while on a self moderated thread. Though im sure I would eventually grow tired of that job and have to pass on the torch. Anyone can create a thread. If it becomes popular, good on you. The official thread will remain unmoderated for now. Other communication channels will be added, in time. I agree that the original thread should remain unmoderated. I just think it might be nice to have a moderated alternative. |
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There has to be some way to terminate this thread forever. Or at least to prevent spammers from injecting their obvious deceits.
I would be willing to moderate for atleast a little while on a self moderated thread. Though im sure I would eventually grow tired of that job and have to pass on the torch. If i get enough comments showing support for the idea ill go ahead and make it. |
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I really liked Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead of course
How on earth did I forget the walking dead in my list!? |
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What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time.
He's already pushed back his original deadline and is being somewhat imprecise again about the new time: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=794079.msg8944565#msg8944565Of course, the time may change again, and he may be misleading us about it.  of course he has. because there never was a vulnerability. i bet he will just keep pushing it back indefinitely. always this fatal exploit will be right around the corner. |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms.  How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks by default. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. This instils much confidence that a small group of people can completely shut-down the system because they feel like it. Let me guess, its for my benefit and protection. Central Bank of Monero? If you dont know what you are talking about than that's fine. Ignorance isnt a crime. But don't pretend like you have any sort of idea what you are talking about if you don't. |
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Hi guys - just a note that we have asked exchanges to suspend XMR deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours. Trading is not suspended. This is a precautionary move.
Polo is shutting down everything: Iloveu: In 30min, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24hrs and all funds put in cold storage. I made the important bit bold. Trading is not suspended. thanks a lot, that's why my coins have been stuck at 18/20 confirms. How is this any different than a bank deciding I'm not allowed to have access to my money? Its not. Exchanges are banks. What time specifically is the attack supposed to start? I need to make sure that I start my popcorn at the right time. |
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Ok I've had my fill of idiocy and trolling for the day. I'll check in on you gents again tomorrow.
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What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?
I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events. I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month  As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish. Are you joking us? You know full well cryptonotes are dead and a thing of the past, just like myspace. You coming here and giving your opinion that there is a 92-96% that cryptonotes will live on is pure bullshit and a clear attempt to salvage any value that your bagholding self now needs to sell off. You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else... Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep. Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead! Why don’t we just wait until after the cards fall to pass judgement. What?? Why wait? Seems like the general consensus by the people who are way smarter then I is that XMR is dead and the code is flawed. It's like buying a new car and finding out its a lemon. Its never gonna be good again. It will be problems after problems. There's no "fixing" this code. It was flawed from the start anyway as cryptonotes already had the major issue of blockchain bloat. My question is how long till you realize what coin out there has the answer to true anon without all the bloat. Ok ill entertain you. What is this alternative that satisfies both the unlinkability and untracability requirements? I dont have time to read into all of the altcoins out there but of what i have read all of the other supposed "anonymous" coins either just coinjoin, which is a wholly unsatisfactory "solution", or they leave all of their activity plain as day for anyone to analyse on the blockchain but call it "anonymous" because they run network traffic through tor. Show me something that isn’t subject to either of these criticisms and i will look into it. *edit* please reply quickly i have to leave soon |
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What do you personally think are the chances of a coin killer attack? And second, did you sell a percentage of your stash?
I am quite an insider in the situation, since I belong to the remedy team, and have communicated with all the main actors. I cannot evaluate the tech, but I know the turns of the events. I currently give a 92-96% chance that Cryptonote will live to see the next month As a result, I believe that currently the market is too bearish. Are you joking us? You know full well cryptonotes are dead and a thing of the past, just like myspace. You coming here and giving your opinion that there is a 92-96% that cryptonotes will live on is pure bullshit and a clear attempt to salvage any value that your bagholding self now needs to sell off. You're just trying to buy time to get out on everyone else... Some of these people may actually believe you but those are the sheep. Stop lying you sack of shit and admit you fucked up! XMR is dead! Why don’t we just reserve judgement until after the cards have fallen. |
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