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2241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: FreeBitcoins.com- Earn free Bitcoins and try out cryptocurrency faucet too! on: March 30, 2017, 05:44:36 PM
I seem like not eligible, what do I need to do to be eligible for digging clamcoins?
Do I need to have a wallet that is older than May 12 2014 in order to be able to claim my clams? If I have a wallet younger than that would that mean zero digging for me?  Angry Angry
Probably I have found crypro world one year later by considering this eligibility criteria.
2242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: DigiFaucet.CF - pays well, has little to no ads, the best faucet ever! on: March 30, 2017, 05:22:22 PM
Also how old is a coin is not the reason why it is trusted, it is the team and the community behind it, for example dogecoin started early but not earlier than some coins but it surpassed it because there is a great team and a community behind it, price of it still keeps going up sometimes even with so many almost infinite amount of coins mined every single day.

But Slaughtergirl is right, they are not even that old, just 2-3 years with no sound is not a trustworthy coin. Their only plus is that, I didn’t hear any bad things as well which is better than nothing.
2243  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: March 30, 2017, 03:22:22 PM
Much mlre votes for NO, and little contradiction how can bitcoin worth 10 000 dollars when dollar is worthless, how you imagine that to happen?
Fiat will be present for many more years, just some world revolution can end dollar domination, and bitcoin is good start for that revolution, but many more things has to be done to come to that.
It is not precisely a contradiction I think the OP meant that if bitcoin was worth 10k dollars then that will probably mean that the dollar is under hyperinflation but the truth is that bitcoin could reach that value by just reaching more adoption.

Anything is possible with bitcoins in future but to see that high price we have to wait for so many years and if it reaches there I don't think that people will stop using fiat as even at that time there will be many people who will not be aware about bitcoins.

Yes time will tell and also if people who are supporting it can take all the risk that it gives considering many would want to fight that number 1 spot or take over bitcoin.
We can see it happening now, and as long as it is on the top more will come. This test to how much we will have faith into making bitcoin the prior currency will be the final act when it reaches that very large price.

Price is the major factor that will draw attention of many people in future and will attract them to get into the bitcoin world and if price crashes in future then I doubt that there will be many people who will show interest in bitcoins in fact many existing users will also quit bitcoins.
I completely agree with your words. If still a small percentage of users will distinguish and that will be good. But this figure will not be huge. The fact is that bitcoin will not be perceived by most of humanity. And it's not the bitcoin itself, but the fact that people are accustomed to paper money.
It is not about the money, it is a matter of priority and how people are exchanging money, if you go and ask a random person on the street about bitcoin they won’t know what it is, because people don’t use it they are using fiat because the government leaves them no other choice and if you live in society than you have to go with the rules to survive.
2244  Economy / Economics / Re: why is it so hard to buy bitcoin on: March 30, 2017, 03:08:57 PM
Personally in my country it wasn't hard, just we had to use documents to buy or sell BTC. But recently our government and financial body stated that its better to avoid virtual currency, though no regulations or restriction is forced on us till now.
If the government simultaneously and warns and still requires documents when buying bitcoin, then I can not understand the logic of the authorities. Perhaps they fix the turnover of bitcoins for a particular user, but apparently this is a certain difficulty for them.
I think due to the fact that I n some countries you are not allowed to exchange currencies that are not the local ones, people find it hard to buy bitcoin, and others are due to the fact that some wallets only sell bitcoin when your present ids to ensure that the coins you buy don’t go to the wrong hands, but for me the easiest way to buy bitcoin is throw peer to peer exchange site.
2245  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: March 30, 2017, 02:16:57 PM
Its so simple holding can give you big profit in the right time. Earning ,buying  ,investing  for long term  without any selling just pure holding will make you rich after 20 years. If only you can wait for that 20 years.

If you are just going to do pure holding, you can earn big. But if you are going to hold and you can see that the price is already good for selling, then sell it and wait again for the time to become low, then buy. By doing this type of activity, your goal of earning big by not selling will become bigger as you are taking the advantage of it.
each user has their price targets respectively. at least they will hold their bitcoin and will not sell them before they reached the target price in order to benefit

It's true, because if you don't have a target price when to sell, you'll miss a lot of chance of getting bigger profit with the market's buy and sell, pump and dump. When there's a pump just keep on waiting at a certain price and if you think that later or for the next days the price will be going down, just simply sell and buy at low.
Buying and selling randomly is profitable, but when one has a better day job earning he can consider it an long term holding. Because it gives the maximum profit in the future as the price pump and dump are a part of the growing technology.


If your earnings is only from bitcoin then you cannot afford to miss short term fluctuations as that is the only way from where you can make profits but if bitcoin is an investment or an secondary source of income then its better to hold them for a long term.
That is true, although saving bitcoin is a good thing but it is not a thing that is suitable for everyone, not everyone can afford putting thousands into it and just leaving it for a year or so, because the price could take a month a year or even more to go up significantly, so like said above know what you are signing up for know your priorities and then decide whether to save or not.
2246  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: Send Bitcoins Without Fees [No Miner Fees] on: March 30, 2017, 01:36:16 PM
I guess OP is trying to promote Xapo wallets  Grin

On a positive notes, what will happen when more than 50% of bitcoin users will be adopting Xapo wallets ?

Because Xapo to Xapo payments are instant and email based. It means it will never touch blockchain but your Bitcoins will be credited in your account.

To get rid of greedy miners, we may need to centralize bitcoin under Xapo. This is the result if we start using Xapo wallets in large numbers.
2247  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you want hardfork? on: March 30, 2017, 07:46:30 AM
Sometimes it needs to get worse before it gets better. A fork would clear the air and it's probably really bad short term but should be good medium/long term if enough miners starts supporting BU.

Segwit is a crappy implementation and relying on the LN vaporware is insanity. As a benefit we could get rid of crazies (you all know who I mean).
I think that if we agree on the idea of making the bitcoin unlimited that will destroy it and make the bitcoin a worthless thing, the only reason people are so interested in bitcoin is because of its high price and that comes from saving it because it is a limited thing so people rush to buying it like there is no tomorrow to try make a profit out of it, and making it unlimited will turn that idea all around.
2248  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has no competition on: March 30, 2017, 06:59:07 AM
I don't think so, bitcoin has competition and bitcoin needs competition,
the competition of bitcoin are altcoins as instrument​ of investments
it will makes bitcoin be alive and there are choice for making investments into digital coins,
it is like gold the competition is silver or other.
In any aspect of business, competition are always a part it, right? I guess most of the business minded person knows that things. although bitcoin was design for me not to compete by any of the business in this world. but majority of the business was bitcoin is competing them. So the result  the community of bitcoin are embracing the concepts and features of it, so the in the end the demand is getting higher. And most of it are altcoins is really the one who is competing with bitcoin.
I believe that after the huge success that bitcoin had and the number of investment and how it took the entire internet community by storm, people thought that it will be a good way to make money from making a similar idea and that where the altcoins started, and of course each one of them are just not successful as the bitcoin was because they don’t have that big user base except for a couple of them that claim to bring new things to the table.

I think that those are the real competition here because when bitcoin gets a big hit they are going to take the opportunity to rise.
2249  Economy / Economics / Re: Is the SEC straight fucking with us now? on: March 30, 2017, 05:48:27 AM
In my understanding, SEC wants bitcoin get established in terms of regulation. Due to the decentralized characteristics of bitcoin ecosystem, it would be obvious that in any government's view bitcoin is still in its early stage like not having any set of rule for emergency downfall or no uniform procedures for any management related decisions across exchanges.

Bitcoiners foresee there will be no regulations needed but governments want corporate standard for regulations.

Until SEC understands how bitcoin is working, I guess there will be no changes we could expect from them on approving bitcoin ETF.
2250  Economy / Economics / Re: Will you invest in a MLM scam in early stage? on: March 30, 2017, 05:27:46 AM
Anyone who puts money in is supporting the scheme and all of the returns that they get will be dirty money from naive later investors, often people who were referred into the scam.

I've seen a few different stripes of MLM scheme. Some actually generate value, like the ones that sell the offbrand products, or privately made products. If you can generate customers, you can actually make value in the system (not just extract it from others in the system). But for the ones that are  thinly veiled Ponzi schemes; yes, this is blood money.
If an MLM business works similar to affiliate programs then there would be no possibility of getting scammed with them.

Unfortunately most of the MLM schemes are coming with no actual business, yes they are coming with no product but circulating the money is their main business. This kind of MLMs should be avoided because those ponzi may get is landed in scamming.
2251  Economy / Economics / Re: Why is bitcoin worth? Welcome to discuss on: March 30, 2017, 03:47:55 AM
Someone has said bitcoin is of no value, in my heart I think they said is wrong, I always think that bitcoin is valuable, but I didn't understand what is the origin of the value of bitcoin, why accept more people, its value will rise? If you have other ideas, please discuss.

Bitcoin price directly shows how valuable bitcoin is in many different currencies, also with bitcoin you can buy properties and other material stuff. That represents the value of bitcoin, by that not just your heart is right you can back up that with facts and evidences.
Miners and users represents bitcoin, and one can not work without other, its how I understand bitcoin economy, and more people involved means more transactions more fee`s, more profit for miners, everyone is happy that we avoid system and that is the origin of bitcoin value in my non professional opinion.
This question was asked a lot before, and simply the bitcoin is worth because people believe that it has potential to change the idea of using money and paying online even if in the future we can’t use bitcoin as a worldwide currency.

The idea that it bring the technology that created can be used to create a similar currency that we all agree on using, and people are liking this idea and they wanted to develop that is why they invest in bitcoin.
2252  Economy / Economics / Re: Difference of Trading and Investing? on: March 30, 2017, 03:39:01 AM
There is a difference between trading and investing in trading you can have control on your funds and you can take decision according to your wish where as in investing you are depending on others to make profits so basically you cannot have control on your own funds.
The real difference between trading and investment is how you make decisions, when investing you just put your money for a specific amount of time and if you are lucky you get profit, trading you are in control of how you earn you just have to look at the market and find out when the price is going to rise and exchange when it is.
2253  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: March 30, 2017, 03:17:34 AM
Stable or not, Bitcoin will always be popular.  First it is the first mover to the decentralized blockchain.  Second, with its userbase that does not include only traders, with the stability of Bitcoin price will welcome Bitcoin to its new community and much wider scope of usage.   This will cover a bigger audience and more interesting party will join to Bitcoin due to the merchants that are accepting Bitcoin in exchange of their goods.
I disagree, in my opinion the only reason that bitcoin got so popular in the past few years is due to the fact that its price is very high compared to anything there, it was able to surpass gold, it was able to achieve the price of the gold in 2 years which took the gold hundred years to get to it, and if the bitcoin had a stable increasing value like gold it wouldn’t be that popular.
2254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: March 29, 2017, 08:04:09 PM
Well I can’t control myself enough to stop, but I control myself enough to say that I only gamble with the faucets from now on, I sometimes win enough to try some new strategies but I can tell you from my 3-4 years of gambling on bitcoin casinos that no strategy ever Works.  So, I just stopped gambling with my money and started gambling with casinos money instead.
2255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: March 29, 2017, 07:51:30 PM
Hmm.. I think few people will be rich from gambling. Most people will be rich from investing though.

I think you got it right, we always thought that it was gambling all along, I mean gambling to make someone rich, but I think too now that it makes sense when someone is being rich by investing in some gambling sites or casinos. There are a lot of gamblers in these forum and I know they bet a lot, a lot enough to make some investors get back their investments.

I think bettors reading these will change their point of view with gambling and might switch from gambling to investing.
Have you checked the moneypot investor part?
It has been minus for a long time, whoever invested early on enough to know the losses than they will know the investing was a lot worse than gambling back than.

There is always a risk, as an investor you make daily amount for a good amount of time but there comes a day whether a whale wins big or there is a problem with the software and someone steals Money from the casinos or moneypot, or there is someone constantly winning or something.
2256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2018 World Cup qualifications, UEFA zone, discussion and information thread on: March 29, 2017, 07:38:17 PM
Sweden shocked the world with a win over Portugal as i never expected them to win the match against a team lead by Cristiano Ronaldo and that too in his home town ,João Cancelo is the villain here as he netted the third and final goal so that Sweden could win . Grin i am really furious that i lost a huge amount of money with this match as i expected Portugal to win the match.

Still this was frendly but schoking defeat in last minutes of match. Sweden did good job in this match no matter if this was frendly.

BTW we have first team that is qualified for WC next year its Brazil, so besides host nation they will be sure participant in the tournament. For this came fact that Uruguay and Argentina lost matches so they need only mathematical one point in next 4 games.
How do we know they will get 1 points in the next 4 games? Cheesy
All kidding aside it was quick, the games are still very early for Euro games does the latin america cup start earlier or is there less teams there? How is it decided so early in the season?
2257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CoinCap.io- Realtime Market Data of All Cryptocurrencies and Digital Assets! on: March 29, 2017, 07:30:28 PM
I do not know if this thead is still maintained by the creator but I could not found a more recent thread for coincap.io app.

I would like to ask to add a various new coins like Byteball, Ark and Incent. I am not able to manage those coins in my altcoin portfolio in the app since they are not available yet.

Further I have a suggestion for improvement. The app only allows to add amount with an dot like 0.1 Bitcoin for instance. The problem is that for countries in where a comma is usally used instead of the dot, the key board only shows a comma. If you type 0,1 then, the app crash. At least the iOs app. Did not test it on Android.
I guess it is not maintained that frequently anymore, he doesn’t add new coins plus the website is basically automatic and even if it shows the right prices it just retracts it with an API of an exchange and shows there, so there is nothing manually needed to be done to keep the website updated, which means he doesn’t have to be active for the website and he may not be here at all anymore.
2258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Knowledgeable and famous investors this forum? on: March 28, 2017, 07:46:01 PM
Well I am Turkish so I am kinda lucky but we have bobmarley650.  He has been doing a fund of sorts where people give their Money to him and he makes more Money with their Money and return, take commissions from the profits. I have never seen him fail to give profits. Every month he does this and every month he returns profits, I don’t remember anytime he returned low amount maybe that happened but I am sure it was never negative.
2259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ◥◣ TALK◥◣ suggested POS coins on: March 28, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
I would say RDD, I like their development team and whoever is in charge of PR, they have been really active again lately after a long time of pause, considering their prices are low because of the dead period if the team could improve it again and make it known around the cryptocurrency exchanges than anyone who gets in now would be fairly compensated in the return.
2260  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: there don't seem to be great Bitcoin alternatives on: March 27, 2017, 04:17:56 PM
I count Litecoin as one of the most perspective among other altcoins. I heard many storyies about how people could increase their capitals with litecoin, the same way as how people got rich with bitcoin.
Litecoin can be considered as stable as bitcoin because of large community supporting it but they aren't getting any attention this days. They are good to hedge against bitcoin but for long term holding you may not earn much with it.
The Litecoin developers say that lite coins is an improved version of bitcoin, with much faster transaction and a script-based mining algorithm, it is considered like silver compared to bitcoin which is gold, the problem with litecoin is it took a long time to setup merchants and shops so can people actually buy things with it,  it is struggling to catch up to bitcoin but they are still way behind, so trying to invest in it is a big risk even if it is cheap.
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