The idea behind this stuff is that Bitcoiners don't gain anything by correcting these lies, but if they keep lying continually they'll pick up some suckers to buy their bags particularly since no one is going to bother expending much effort correcting any of it.
100% true. The other side is that if the suckers didn't buy the Ver coin or any of the other ones they would be buying some other shit coin like XMR or XRP or XAP or whatever. Greed will always overcome logic and people who only want the fast $ will always gravitate to the next big thing. The scammers will keep taking their $ and then the next bag of suckers will come along. Or, to put it another way there are people who see ads on TV about buying gold and happily buy what they saw at a massive premium over what they could have gone down to their local shop and bought the same thing for. Because some celebrity told them to. If theymos wants to leave the forum open to alts and all the other crap then that is what we are going to get. OTOH, if it is stopped here it just means it will take place elsewhere. -Dave There is nothing wrong with investing in established alts especially the ones like XMR. Since you mentioned it, XMR provides complete privacy which BTC lacks. Many people who own bitcoin also do own some alts. There is no need to demonize alts completely. If some other alt provides a better tech than btc, does something better than btc, then it has a legitimate reason to exist. The main problem here is that RV promoted BCH as it was the real bitcoin which is obviously a big lie. No other alt did that. I am not sure but I don’t think even BSV went that low. They did a lot of satoshi’s real vision stuff though.
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That's a difficult question to answer. Over the years of Bitcoin existence, its long-term growth was incomparably higher than that of gold. So gold was kind of a safe option with lower profit, and Bitcoin was a riskier option with much higher profit. But things might be different with Bitcoin now, considering how mild its growth was from 2021 to 2024. Maybe we'll see another bull run, showing that Bitcoin is still a much more profitable option. But maybe not, and then gold will indeed be a very attractive option to many investors.
Not that difficult. Gold has a different client-base. It's rare for gold bugs to hold bitcoin. People who already have gold will keep buying gold, or taking profits and buying stuff. People who have bitcoin will not dump it when it's low just to buy gold that spiked up. That would be stupid. The only people that could be affected by this are those who are in fiat, losing 5% a year to inflation, thinking if they should get bitcoin or gold. The problem is that if bitcoin goes down and gold up, like it did recently, it's more profitable to buy bitcoin. I don't think that's the case. Gold bugs and bitcoin people have many common beliefs. Both hate the FED, both think this current financial system is not sustainable and bound to fail, both say FIAT shouldn't be printed recklessly out of thin air... There are probably other similarities which I can't think of right now. It is just some gold people don't see btc as a viable alternative to FIAT and it is OK. Some bitcoin people don't like gold and they think it is just another dumb metal or yellow dirt and that's OK too but these people are the minority. The majority who like btc or gold the most, the chances are they probably hold the other asset too. Maybe a lot less than their favorite asset but they do, in case they were wrong about their original choice.
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I am not in favor of mixers, predicted their demise here, and laughed at the clowns who were defending them for a paycheck. That being said, mixers can’t be replaced with non-KYC exchanges. The thing about non-KYC exchanges is that when they get enough user funds, they turn into KYC exchanges and then steal everyone’s money. If this hasn’t happened to you yet, it will if you keep using them.
Getting weekly fat pay checks from mixers clouded some users judgement. I noticed that too but me being right wasn't going to change anything so I didn't say it too often (I think i did it once or twice at least though) and I didn't have to. It would only upset the people who were carrying the mixer signatures even more. Those mixing services were centralized and nobody knew what data they were logging. It could be anything. As far as I know none of them were open source even if they were, it still wouldn't make any sense to use them because you still wouldn't know the actual code they were running on their servers. To function, they needed other people's coins so them being open source wouldn't make any difference. If you need privacy, use monero. Bitcoin mixing services never made any sense to begin with. I guess it is all resolved now. I don't think anybody would argue otherwise because nobody is getting paid by any mixers around here anymore That said, if you go to shitcointalk forum and keep talking the same stuff, they will pitchfork you. How dare you say that to our employers! Heretic. -Mixers are fiiinee privacy privacy come and buy some privacy buy 2 and get 1 free privacy I'mma sellin the best privacy special offer- Now when you think about it, theymos actually improved the forum by banning the mixers as they probably weren’t really providing any real privacy. (At least we had no chance to know it for sure)
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When it comes to buying gold, physical should be the only way. I don't know if these gold backed tokens are really backed by gold, I don't know if there is any physical delivery, I don't know if it will hold the peg forever... There are too many uncertainties. Why trade gold anyway? It is not as volatile as crypto so I don't see the point. Just buy and hold physical gold for 10 years at least and then do what you wanna do with your profits. I'd rather trade alts instead of these gold backed tokens.
Litecoin, Bitcoin and Monero are backed by nothing and they still have a price. When these gold backed tokens lose their peg, they will go to zero. I would avoid.
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I trust oil and it's good asset. World needs oil the cars and airplanes so everything. So what's best ways to hold oil shares and invest or trade? What about any crypto decent safe CRUDE OIL tokens? Like the tether gold have ? Does something like crude oil have? Im sure a lot people looking for same thing and want to get into oil holding.
Just buy the major oil stocks like ExxonMobil, BP, Shell, Chevron etc... No need to make it complicated. You can bet on oil's future price too but I don't do options trading so I don't know it well. Remember; during covid19, oil prices went negative. Lots of people who were long on oil got wiped out because of that. Oil is a smart play. It is often regarded as "black gold" and it is undoubtedly more useful than gold, so buying some oil companies is always a good idea.
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I stopped using Binance since the ID verification was imposed and it became clear that they are trying to please governments before they ask them to, and if the clients are from a country with a weak government, their funds will be easily frozen and stolen. So it is better to use Bisq or a platform that respects their customers. The average withdrawal fee for Bitcoin is $29 for most platforms and the lowest fee is $2 (at OKX) [1] so you can exchange Bitcoin to LTC as the withdrawal fee is low. [1] https://withdrawalfees.com/exchanges/binanceBinance is the only cex I am still using now (with small amounts) but I also withdrew most of my coins a couple months ago. Bisq is truly decentralized but it lacks volume and variety. Also my laptop gets very hot after running it a while and I think this is the man obstacle that keeps it from getting bigger. It is running on a blockchain as far as I know and because of that it consumes lots of computer resources. LTC is the best way to withdraw coins from binance like you said. Sometimes I can't beliece why it is so cheap to withdraw using LTC. Binance must have missed it.
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Just don't tell them? BTC isn't something physical so if you are not stupid enough to write it on your forehead that you have bitcoins, nobody will notice anything. You could carry a million bitcoins in a usb disk. Nobody will know it. Your wallet is literally a text file which carries your public keys or seed words. If you don't even want to carry a usb stick, then memorize your words and it will be even better. With bitcoin&crypto, unless you make stupid moves, you can't fail. In fact, you need to try very hard.
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It is all relative. I've seen people making it from $1k to $1 million and I've seen people going from $1 million to zero. Making money requires some luck and knowledge but keeping it requires mostly knowledge. After reaching $1 million, every day which you didn't lose money is a win. When you get that big, you become the big pie which other smaller fish want to take a bite out of.
Making $1k to $2k is easy. All you have to do is bet on the right coin. If you lose, you can try next week, or next month. Doubling $1 million into $2m, that's where it gets complicated.
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Thats a question we all would like to know. Has Bitcoin been finally sold out to big businesses, corporations, investment groups and even countries?? In the last few years these things have resonated louder than ever. Investment groups buying thousands and even millions worth of Bitcoin at a time, countries even making the once comical like currency its very own currency for everyday life. So the question once again is asked... Has Bitcoin Finally Lost It's Decentralization? Let us know of your thoughts and comments on this and thanks again.
What you described has nothing to do with bitcoin's decentralization. Bitcoin is still the same network for more than 10 years and it still works the same way. If some people own thousands of bitcoins, that doesn't mean the network is compromised. On the contrary, it only shows people are interested in bitcoin so they are buying huge shares of the platform. Buying coins can't threaten the decentralization of the network. Only the miners can do that. If one miner controls the majority of the hash rate, that would be catastrophic. Luckily that will never happen.
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If you want to learn who you should vote for in the US presidential election I'm not voting for Biden nor Trump. Why? Are you playing Switzerland imma taking no sides chaotic neutral shiet again? Legiteum might be a little demo*rat shit nugget but credit is where credit goes. She has a legitimate concern here. You must pick a side.
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One of the reasons the world financial system will not let the debit/credit card system be “destroyed” is the loss of HUGE revenue, to the world financial system. It's not just interest on transactions, even more important to them is the actual management of your money (real) through “card accounts” (virtual).
In addition, there is one more thing to consider - card payments generate inflation. No, this is not nonsense... Let's take for example 1 dollar, which came to you in the form of part of your salary. You pay this 1 dollar, for example, for a bottle of water. From this dollar, inside the banking system, a commission is withdrawn, for example 5% (this is to make it convenient to count). Total, the real security of your “card dollar” is already 0.95 dollars. Then the same dollar goes through such operations again and again and again ... At each step - it loses part of its value, as it goes to the BANKS
It is not only the commissions, credit cards affect your psychologically too. When you pay with cc, it doesn't hurt you much at that moment. It feels like you are getting the stuff for free and that makes you spend more. When you spend more and more like that, it also generates inflation because you are pretty much dumping your FIAT on the market. That's why the FED kept the interest rates low for many years because they wanted people to buy stuff all the time. And you know what, It made sense to do that because why not? If they are giving you free money, you go and dump them on the market. Why keep it? If you don't do that, somebody else will and in the end your free FIAT will lose its purchasing power.
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So the only route for bitcoin to become the global p2p network is lightning?
when you realise lightning is a completely different network you then realise that your statement makes no sense EG the future of cars is to only ride bikes there will be subnetworks for small niche utility, but.. when you realise lightning is buggy with issues even LN devs wont/cant fix*, you realise that for small niche subnetwork utility, LN wont be it.. devs will have to start again using a different network model for subnetwork niche utility (*the more popular LN gets the more issues it will have with liquidity) What's the difference between lightning and wrapped bitcoin tokens on eth? They both promise 1btc for your 1 wrapped btc or 1 lightning btc. LN is like a stable coin but it is backed by BTC instead of USDT. WBTC is the same thing. They operate on different networks but that's essentially what they do. Tbh I'd rather use a well established alt like ltc or doge when btc is slow and expensive. It worked for me till now.
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People who are dirt poor are still getting married because they don’t think about these stuff like we do. Rich people sometimes get married because they want to know how it feels like. (To be trapped I guess?) Middle class usually avoid marriage because they don’t find it viable. Living comfortably while raising a kid is not possible for these people so they give up on making kids.
It is pretty much the same everywhere in the world at the moment.
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I see no need to further qualify hodling. Hodling was originally a simple concept as opposed to trading. That's it. If you have Bitcoin and you aren't trying to make profit out of its short-term rise and fall, you are basically hodling. If you are merely keeping your Bitcoin as opposed to timing the market and try to buy low sell high, you are a basically a hodler. Whether your coins are in a hot wallet or cold wallet, custodial wallet or non-custodial wallet, open-source wallet or closed-source wallet, and so on is another story.
People do trades because they are addicted to watching the charts. They simply can’t stand still for more than a couple of weeks. They want to move around and try to beat the markets and in the end they end up losing more money. We really need to stop checking the prices every minute. We need to put our alts and btc in a bag, seal its entrance and come back at least 5 years later to see if we made it or not. I can almost guarantee that anyone who does this will “make it”. If you don’t trust the alts you’re holding then it means you shouldn’t be holding them for the long term. Just dump them away whenever an opportunity emerges.
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Not much tbh because I don't depend on crypto that much. Crypto is part of my portfolio and supporting me with some passive income but my own business doesn't rely on crypto. So If crypto disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't feel it that much. My other assets would keep making me money and the world would keep spinning. You better have a back-up plan if crypto is your main way of making money. 15 years ago none of these existed and think about that a little and what would you do if crypto somehow failed.
Crypto provides an alternative but it is not indispensable.
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That's a known fact. Getting rich is easier than keeping it. I am not saying getting there itself easy but some people get there pretty fast because they are lucky. Sometimes their grandma dies and they inherit lots of money and then they bet all on intc right before its earnings and boom 30% of that inheritance goes out of the window just like that.
People often dream about the great stuff they would do if they were rich. Most of the time they dream about getting poor again but they don't know that.
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However when you compare xmr or ltc to btc, then they act much better than btc as a currency. They are cheaper and much faster.
I prefer Litecoin for transactions myself because it's good and stable as currency but when it comes to XMR then I personally don't use it because of restrictions against it. Since most of the transactions I do aren't high in value or have any wrong elements in those and that's why I don't care much about the privacy part. However, the ones who give high importance to privacy could go for XMR. You should keep some xmr anyway because you’ll never know when you’ll need it. People need privacy for various reasons and you might need it to when the time comes. When it does, xmr will handle the jobs perfectly. For everything else litecoin is great. Litecoin provides some privacy with mimblewimble too but some people say it is not as good as xmr so I wouldn’t rely on it too much.
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It always start like this: "Uh they are only taxing the super rich, you see there is nothing to worry about." The same people said the same thing when income tax was introduced for the first time: "They are only taxing a few percent of your income c'mon it is not that bad!" ... Stockholm Syndrome they call it. Symptoms and behaviors Victims of the formal definition of Stockholm syndrome develop "positive feelings toward their captors and sympathy for their causes and goals, and negative feelings toward the police or authorities".[4] These symptoms often follow escaped victims back into their previously ordinary lives.[15] Hey look, Kabala is taxing these guys but it is for our own good. Let her tax people even more. She is tha best commie.
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Mods can we lock this topic now? The bitcoin conference is long over.
Discussion can move to another thread.
I have never seen mods locking other people’s topics. Have you seen it before? I have seen them deleting spam messages and topics though. People can continue to post in this topic for the next 10 years unless the OP locks it himself. Mods can’t do anything about it.
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lol the puppet government is a disgrace. Shame on french people.
Many French people don’t like their current rulers. I don’t think we should blame all the French. However they need to do something about it without a doubt. Yellow vests tried it but failed. Maybe next time.
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