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241  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why people mostly fail in trading on: May 11, 2024, 04:31:22 PM
I think there are quite a lot of factors that cause why someone fails in trading, it could be because they have the wrong mindset such as thinking that trading is a quick way to become a rich man that makes them put high enthusiasm but with little effort in terms of learning various things that should be prepared when someone wants to get involved in the world of trading so that instead of making a profit but what happens they actually experience a lot of losses.

Another factor could also be because they are someone who is lazy to learn while trading has always been an activity that requires a trader to continue to learn various new things they find in the market. Another thing I would not include "lack of capital" as one of the reasons why someone fails in trading, because if for example they learn it properly according to what is suggested then there are actually quite a lot of loan services that they can use to start their trading steps (although trading with borrowed money is not recommended), But in some cases I more often find that traders fail because they have a wrong understanding and only see in terms of profit opportunities that make them think that trading is an intermediary to get rich in instant time so they do it very hastily and forget various things that lead to risk management to minimize the possibility of loss.
242  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can I get into trading on: May 11, 2024, 04:06:10 PM
Good day guys!
As someone who’s new to this space and wants to start trading, what are the steps I can take to start and how much of fund do I need to start?.
What wallet is best for me? Can I use meta trader?
If you are new to trading then you must first gain enough knowledge about trading. If you don't gain enough knowledge about trading then you can't succeed by trading well. In trading we must look at the long girls plan and then trade. We are in a hurry when it comes to trading. If we are patient and have a long-term plan, we will surely get success very quickly. Many times it is seen that newbies are too hasty in trading and want to earn money very fast. Everyone wants to earn money in trading field but it is wrong to do it too fast. In the case of trading, if we can patiently make long-term investments and trade after checking the market, surely we will all be traders in the future.

Yes because in any case it is always recommended to first learn things first before you finally jump in, not least because by dedicating yourself to learning things first then you will be able to get at least enough basic knowledge to be used as a first step in the world of trading, but actually in the world of trading one must continue to learn things even if they already know a few things, because after all the market will always move which means there will always be new things you have to learn if you really want to become a successful trader in the future.

In addition, try not only to learn various things that have the potential to bring profits, but also learn some things that can make you avoid the possibility of significant losses, one of which is to learn risk management very well and apply it firmly, and if you feel that you are confident enough to plunge into the world of trading using real money then start your steps by taking the smallest possible risk such as only putting the amount of money that you can really be responsible for if in the end the session ends in a loss. And the key is like you said which is one of them don't rush, and I might add that a trader must have good patience, have a strong mentality, never give up and be consistent in learning, and eliminate the thought of "wanting to get rich quick".
243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Double your money and quite on: May 11, 2024, 03:46:29 PM
the goal is to limit the amount of money wagered and the amount of winnings that is considered satisfactory. Of course, everyone will have a different winning target.
but what becomes a little boring is when the game just drags out the game for a longer time. like when you lose 10 rounds and then win 10 rounds, even though the value is definitely different, if the situation keeps repeating itself it will only lead to boredom.
Games like this can sometimes take quite a long time, so setting targets may not be achieved. There must be other controls than setting a target of doubling capital.

Lol, yes. The games can be tiresome as I have felt the same feeling quite often.
This is why I change the games that I play because that way atleast I am playing something different.
Playing the same game over and over again also makes us complacent and we tend to lose focus in the game and lose more in some cases.

In my case I usually prefer to switch games especially on online betting types such as slot machines when it turns out that the previous game is very boring and drains my balance very quickly which makes me most likely to finish the session too quickly. So the scenario is more or less the same as you do buddy where I also prefer to try some other games whose spins are not too significant in terms of draining the balance in my casino wallet.

Gambling is more recommended to be used as a place of entertainment and looking for fun, but sometimes when we are in one of the games that have a very bad spin then it is really boring, not because I am emotional because I lost money but it makes me run the game with a period of time that is too fast even though the multiplier I put is quite small, so I can not feel the maximum excitement, therefore I prefer to try some other types of games that are in a pretty good condition and do not drain my wallet balance too quickly, which with that I can enjoy the excitement longer.
244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do some people hide to gamble on: May 11, 2024, 03:26:13 PM

It depends on the individual how to balance it, sometimes some prefer to hide rather than let people know that we always gamble even though we say we have never been addicted.
The point of view of others will be different, when those who criticize anti-gambling people then it will be called a bad thing, but if those who criticize like to gamble then the advice will be given.


That's one of the reason why gamblers choose to hide their gambling activity because they don't want to hear any critisism from other people because it can affect their self confidence and sometimes the words that they heared from other people is below the belt when in fact, they don't contribute to the money used in gambling but the way they say a word, it's like the magnitude of the sin committed just because they know the person is gambling. They are good at criticizing, but when the gambler win a large amount of money, they are always present to ask for money and loans.

Well one of the reasons that I often find about why some gamblers prefer to hide their gambling activities from the public eye is because they don't want to hear a lot of criticism thrown by people in their environment, especially if they are in an anti-gambling environment then obviously there is a high probability that there will be a lot of criticism, ridicule or ridicule that they will hear which can greatly disturb their peace of life regardless of whether they are addicts or not.

Even though we actually gamble using our own money and without involving other people in our gambling involvement, but still it really has a great possibility to happen because basically criticism will always be a part of life, especially if we are in a truly anti-gambling environment. In the end it all comes back to the decision of each gambler, if for example they can ignore all the criticism and ridicule they hear then yes it is fine not to hide their gambling activities, but if for example you really feel uncomfortable and disturbed then obviously hiding your gambling habits is the best alternative that can be done.
245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much of my salary should I use to gamble on: May 11, 2024, 03:06:09 PM
Bro this quick rhetorical, is gambling an investment that you might want to allocate some amount to one monthly basis or do you consider it a source of income, yeah I understand that some has used gambling as a side income stream but my only advice here would be gamble with what you can afford to lose, if possible like a 5% allocation won't be possible bad since its nothing compared to the rest 95%, but make sure you have some wins if not that compiled over time woudl be up to a month's salary wasted on gambling.

Anyone interested in gambling should make it in a more appropriate manner whereby it wont affect him and the relationship of the people around him, we cannot assume gambling as a means of making money, also we should know the risk involved in gambling, for a salary earner, such gambler will think about this twice before making any decision on gambling from his earned monthly salary for gambling, because they already know they have no alternative for survival after salary.

I think most of us already know about the right way to treat gambling so that we don't become one of the gamblers who experience the bad effects of gambling as experienced by some other gamblers who always gamble in the wrong way which will actually only harm themselves, and obviously the right and best approach to gambling is not to think that gambling is a place to earn, because by having this mindset, most likely your goal is to gamble just for fun when you have boring free time.

And also with this mindset, I am sure that you will not do various actions that tend to be excessive, because usually excessive actions in gambling are always owned and done by gamblers who are trying to make money in gambling, which actually makes them in a lot of danger that will continue to lurk in the long run. And also by having an understanding that gambling is not a place to earn then I'm sure whoever it is will not allocate large amounts of money, most likely they will only put small amounts because they think that gambling is just a normal game that requires them to spend some money if they want to be involved in the game, and this approach I think clearly will not disturb the financial balance in his life.
246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: May 11, 2024, 02:46:24 PM
it is not good for someone to take gambling more serious because when you are taking gambling serious you will be very desperate to win gambling so that is one of major things that make some people to be addicted, been addicted in gambling is for among one of the things that make some people to think of stealing and other bad things so you need to prevent not to be addicted in gambling when you are not working
When a person gambles and becomes so addicted to gambling, they only have one dream of how they will make money through gambling. Whenever a gambler gains confidence in himself, he will try to win by betting twice as much money. So gambling as this type of addiction is never right for anyone. There are many families who have destroyed their families just because of this tide and also ruined their bright future, so this kind of gambling can never be beneficial in people's life, so for the sake of the country, for the sake of the family, for the sake of the family, gambling must be avoided.

Exactly, this is the mindset that exists in the mind of a gambler who has fallen into the addiction phase where they always think that gambling can provide them with income or a large amount of winnings that can change the fate of their lives, they think that gambling will always be able to provide them with income to make ends meet, and however it is clear that this is a wrong mindset that can never be justified at any time when we talk about gambling.

The biggest mistake is that they put their hopes and confidence in a place that has no guarantee to always be able to earn, which in addition to gambling is always a risk that can make you lose any money unexpectedly, and I think it is a fact that when it turns out that you lose then it is not the end of the world, most likely  they will be more curious and put a larger amount of budget to bet which means the risk of losing is clearly greater. I think we all know about the bad effects that gambling can have when you  gamble the wrong way, so if you intend to get involved in gambling then it's better to consider carefully, lest you regret it in the end.
247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the main points of gambling? on: May 11, 2024, 02:26:21 PM
Everyone's style is different when it comes to gambling and most people think of gambling as a way to make money. Gambling should be seen as a form of entertainment and not to earn money from it gamblers who bet with the intention of making money will have a higher risk of losing money. That's why you should keep your mind and avoid greed in gambling. Greed sometimes turns into addiction but gamblers can't come out easily. Gambling is when people risk money or something of value to predict the outcome of a game involving chance. If you predict the outcome correctly you win money if you are wrong you lose gambling money.

It is true that everyone has a different style in gambling and they also have a different approach, and I think with the large population of gamblers who end up experiencing a lot of problems in their lives such as experiencing a lot of financial problems or getting into debt then maybe we can already confirm that they have the wrong intentions and goals in their gambling involvement such as coming with the intention of earning so that in the end experiencing such bad effects. This is because however and whenever gambling can never be used as a place to earn because there is no certainty and guarantee to always be able to win while the possibility of losing will continue to lurk you at any time, and this is the reason why a gambler who tries to make money instead experiences a significant amount of loss.

Yes it is true that every gambler is always advised to make gambling as nothing more than a game of entertainment, because with this approach then I think it is less likely for you to do various unreasonable actions such as applying greed, because all you want is entertainment and not income.
248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it proper for younger ones to gamble? on: May 11, 2024, 02:06:38 PM
Young generation usually has a high curiosity about something they have never tried including gambling. So it is possible that the young students you saw in the betting shop is doing it for the first time because of curiosity. Of course it is also possible that they have done it many times already, it means that we do not know the real fact about those young students so we cant make a conclusion that young players ignore their education and focus more on gambling.

True, I think it is a fact that children who are still underage have a high curiosity about whatever they find and what they hear, usually they don't really care that it is prohibited, as long as they can reach it and as long as no one prevents it then they will usually do it based on high curiosity, And I think you're right that it's likely that the young people we see in the betting shop aren't the first time they've been there, if you see them doing it so smoothly without asking any questions to anyone there then yes it's likely that they've tried it a few times before so it's like they're used to the environment in the shop. But at the end of the day it is a concerning situation that someone who should be spending most of their time studying various subjects at school but they are instead taking the time to engage in gambling, I think this is the reason why parental supervision is really important.
249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: May 11, 2024, 01:37:12 PM

 People with such Mentality forget that in gambling losing is inevitable, winning is not always guaranteed so whenever you win a huge profit from gambling instead of having a second thought of making more from your winnings the best option is to take profit and leave or take 80-90% of your winning and leave the remaining 10 to try again with but some people are so greedy that they would want to try again with half of their winning or even 80% of it sometimes. The worst set of people are those who lose and would want to chase their lose, I consider it worst because most people have lost more to gambling due to that, the best thing to do when you lose from gambling is to take a break, relax for some time restrategise and come back again to try luck cause I take gambling as a game of luck due to the fact that the house has the most edge.
Chasing your losses does not make sense in more ways than one, after all if a person lost so much money while gambling that they are considering doing something to recover it, why do they try to to do this while gambling even more?

Do they fail to realize that if they lost so much money once, it could happen again? So they might as well just give up, accept they made a mistake and try to recover that money by reducing their expenses and save some money during the next months.

That's right, they have lost a huge amount of money in gambling but strangely they intend to pursue recovery in the same place, which means this is absurd and unjustified, meaning that they are irresponsible people who are unable to accept the fact of losing in their gambling activities, because after all, they should have understood from the beginning and already knew that the risk of losing is a part of gambling that can never be separated, so it makes no sense for them to act to pursue recovery, and this is the reason why someone who tries to pursue their losses ends up losing more.

I think it's clear that the idea of chasing losses in gambling is ultimately only going to make them lose more, all because gambling is always an activity that lacks certainty and guarantees, so how can you reach the recovery phase without the assurance and certainty of always being able to win? So of course in the end the best thing is to let go of what you've lost and then stop completely, this is the best way for you to avoid the possibility of losing much more.
250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 11, 2024, 01:17:32 PM

On the other hand, I admit that hearing criticism from other people is really unpleasant, especially if their comments are not in accordance with the facts, but I think there is nothing wrong with listening to their comments, criticism or suggestions occasionally because they might give something that does lead to our own good, such as suggesting to apply a lot of restrictions, reminding not to gamble too often or other things. and I also do this with the aim of filtering some of the comments that come in for consideration, or that means if there are some comments that contain a sense of concern for ourselves then usually I will consider it and then think and finally follow it, And I also do this in order to filter out some of the comments that come in for consideration, or I mean if for example there are some comments that contain a sense of concern for us then usually I will consider it and then think and ultimately follow what they suggest, but if for example their comments only contain ridicule or even insults then usually I just let it go.
Criticism is a part of life, whether you like it or not. Its how we learn, how we get better. I've been in the game a long time, and some feedback is gold, some is garbage. Your job is to figure out which is which. If someone's hitting you with facts, pointing out areas where you can actually improve, thats the good stuff. Take a hard look at it, even if it stings. Could be the key to unlocking a whole new level for yourself. Thats the growth mindset, thats how you level up.

But some people just wanna tear you down. Its not about helping, its about their own insecurities. Dont get sucked into that vortex. Recognize it for what it is – negativity thats got nothing to do with you. You focus on your game, your path. Their opinions dont build your future. Remember, your mental space is sacred. Protect it. Dont let useless criticism take root and drag you down. If it doesnt help you, its gotta go. Focus on the things that matter, the things that make you stronger. Thats where your energy belongs.

Yes, that's right because however criticism is something that we will always find because this is one part of life, whether we like it or not, the fact is that there will always be some people who don't really like us where sometimes they like to find our mistakes. True, our job is only to find out about which ones are indeed a fact where we can make the criticism as a lesson to be better, the fact is that changes for the better will always be caused by the absurd things we have done, therefore as I said earlier that it never hurts to filter out some incoming comments with the aim that we can find out about what our mistakes are that we have to fix for the good of ourselves.

On the other hand yes I understand that most people always want to put each other down, but that's natural because as you said above that it's a part of life, that maybe there are some people who try to trap with some criticism and suggestions as it looks "tempting", but I think it can be prevented if we are able to think rationally, and I think this is enough.
251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you achieved anything from gambling on: May 10, 2024, 04:08:48 PM
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Lastly , i Dont know If you have achieved anything from gambling or you have same perception like my colleaques But for me i have achieved something reasonable and tangible from gambling , So please friends let me see your opinions on this .
I personally have not gained anything from gambling and I also don't really expect anything from gambling because I realize that gambling is just to entertain ourselves in our spare time, so if we hope to achieve something in gambling, we will most likely be willing to spend a lot of money to always place bets, if only we are lucky after spending a lot of money and can get what we hope for, but if that doesn't happen then we will regret losing the money we have because of chasing. something uncertain in gambling.

I think I can slightly conclude that you are one of the gamblers who knows about how gambling actually is so that you think that gambling is a place to find entertainment which you also do the same thing by making gambling a place to find entertainment when you are in your spare time with boredom and not to make money. And I agree with you that if we are too hopeful about winning in gambling actually the opposite will happen in the sense that instead of making a lot of winnings but what happens instead you experience more losses, and maybe I would also say that by having the intention and purpose to earn then actually it is an idea that will ultimately lead you to more regret and disappointment, Because after all gambling will not always go your way, and this is the reason why a gambler is only allowed to bet small amounts without excessive expectations of winning, which indirectly this approach will make it easier for you to account for the decisions you made at the beginning when it turns out that at the end of the session you lose.
252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling addiction causes loss on: May 10, 2024, 03:42:40 PM
My advice for a gamble addict is to never repeat a bet more and more after several losses because the probability of winning might not come from several trial.Morever gambling being an addict is so weird as most people go extra mile to use 100% of their income to gamble that's a risky game, gambling is meant for fun and not an addiction,but you know what,when it's played with the intention of making huge profit it then becomes an addiction.My advice to your friend is he should get himself a therapist that would enlighten him more on gambling.

Anyone who uses 100% of their income for gambling is either an irresponsible gambler or a newbie who has the wrong idea about gambling.

I knew several people who gambled this way and they all eventually stopped playing for all the money and this is quite logical. I would not recommend spending more than 10% of your income on gambling, or finding some kind of part-time job, the income from which you can lose without regret.

Well I agree with that and maybe overall we can conclude that if they dare to allocate 100% of their income to gambling then it is gamblers who come and make decisions without the correct understanding and knowledge of how gambling really is, and most likely all they know is "gambling can multiply their money" which is a pretty strong reason why they dare to allocate all their income to gambling.

However, if you know and understand the real facts about gambling then I'm sure you'll agree with some of the ideas that advise gamblers to take a lot of precautions and you'll also always advise others not to gamble large sums of money, let alone 100% of their income, because after all, this is a foolish approach which means you're wasting money and donating your hard-earned money to the casino. It's a fact that no one likes to lose, but gambling can never be a place to earn because of the risk that can never be tolerated, and risking large budgets in gambling will only lead you to more significant regrets.
253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you won a bet with your last cash? on: May 10, 2024, 03:22:09 PM
I cannot remember when I risked or bet my last cash. I am always used to betting only the money that I can afford to lose. Maybe I am used to it because since college I am far from my family. I have a weekly or monthly allowance so I am always bringing cash that is good for more than a day. So I was responsible enough not to bet more than my allocated budget.

It's a different story online though. It happened to me many times that my last casino balance won and it saved me from cashing in again. For OP's case, I think the last cash that should've been used for transportation going home was being used. Not cool mate and do not do it again.
Even if it is spare cash you can afford to lose, gambling every single dollar you had on you is not really the best idea, since you never really know what it may happen during your commute home and you may need the extra cash to pay for something, besides by keeping even a small amount of cash around and not gamble to your last dollar you are proving yourself you are in complete control of your gambling, something that in my opinion we need to test from time to time as a way to ensure that everything is fine.

I think the idea of risking your last dollar in gambling is a ridiculous idea, why? obviously it will only lead to more significant disappointment at the end of the session when things don't go your way, and I'm sure that one of the reasons that people bet their last bit of money is because they think that the last bit of money could bring them a fortune that could double their money, when obviously casinos will never care about things like that, The casino will not care about whether it is your last money or not, and the point is that if you risk any money in gambling then obviously defeat will always be a definite possibility, and also I will remind you that whatever money you use to gamble will in no way affect or change the outcome of the gambling or that means it will not be able to guarantee your victory.

So obviously the point is to be wise in terms of making decisions, if for example it is the last money you have then obviously it is better to use the money very wisely, such as using it to buy more important needs or whatever it is rather than gambling.
254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling mistake repeated by the gamblers on: May 10, 2024, 02:58:13 PM

I think it's clear that it's typical of people who can't ignore the greed in them that even though for example they have managed to achieve the victory they want but in the end they still want a much bigger amount of victory by continuing the session sometimes by betting a much bigger amount to pursue a more significant victory. And I would say that greed will never end because this mindset involves desire which as we know in real life when someone has succeeded in realizing their desires then they will again want something bigger when they see that other people have it. And I would also say that this is a typical gambler who simply does not understand and does not know about how gambling really is which is not only about the chances of winning but also the risk of losing will always be a part of gambling, but they only see from one side only, namely "the opportunity to multiply".

Who would get satisfied with winning money. Its a vital technique that operates the minds of players to continually repeat same mistakes. Once a human posses an amount of money, its value depreciates. He would go for more. It's a feeling that explains why people get greedy. Hence, players definitely will battle with the mental trap of winning bigger money. Because the funds will end the moment a player tries to win bigger than he's won. Developing such confidence ruins the happiness of the player in a few more minutes.

At same time admits the player to chase losses. Gambling is an emotional game. Gamblers who are not emotionally under control will get conned by the different stages of emotional technique of holding a player's interest in regaining his lost money. Casinos have designed these methods to earn multiple profits from gamblers. These stages are closely thought out to make a player forget about losing and focus on winning more than his previous games and, same time, gain again, the exact amount won previously, which sponsored the losing chase.

Yes, which is added because all humans who live will always want and need money to be able to realize something they need or what they want, so when someone finds a place that can give them some money then they will stay there to put hope even though it is actually a place that does not make sense to be used as a place to make money, because after all gambling does not have an element of consistency to always be able to produce and all that is because there is no guarantee and certainty to always be able to win.

In the end, there are always only a few people who really understand how gambling really is which makes them not excessive in treating their gambling activities which knowledge will be able to make them more awake and avoid various bad possibilities in the long run as long as they can still maintain a correct understanding of the concept of gambling. However it is a fact that gambling is a game of probability which refers to one of two possibilities at the end of the session which is either winning or losing, there is no guarantee of always being able to win but losing will always be a definite possibility, and I also agree with what you said that gambling is an emotional game which requires you to always be able to control yourself and emotions if you are not going to experience various undesirable things.
255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: May 10, 2024, 02:18:58 PM
This means that rich people only see gambling as a place of entertainment to fill their spare time when they feel bored in the midst of their busy lives. Wink
That's true. They have money to gamble and it won't bother them if they go in a losing streak. While those that have just enough or don't do good with their living.

One lose and they're going to have an headache already. That's the reason why we tell everyone to gamble what they can afford to lose.

Because the rich are gambling because of boredom and they don't have to aim for the wins, they let the casino win and they are not emotional when they lose.

This is the difference in perspective between the poor and the rich, and if the rich have the mindset of the poor then I honestly don't believe that they will succeed in becoming rich, which means that the wealth that they have managed to get is because they have thinking skills that the poor do not have. Rich people engage in gambling because they feel financially capable and also have a certain amount of money that they can really afford to lose in exchange for entertainment, and one of the reasons why I strongly believe that it is unlikely for rich people to make gambling as a place to earn is because as I said above that they have different skills in how to think, usually they will only take opportunities if they really look reasonable to earn, while gambling runs full of uncertainty.

And this is why we always recommend not to overdo gambling, not least because it is unreasonable to put hope and faith in something that runs with great uncertainty in terms of generating winnings, but it is a fact that it is very difficult to advise poor people who try to use gambling as a place to change their fortunes, their hallucinations have gone too far to think that gambling can be used as a place to multiply their money and the reason may be because they have a stressful situation due to the financial problems they have in their lives.

Lastly I would say that there is no significant income with little effort. Wink
256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why do people lose in gambling and still go ahead and bet more? on: May 10, 2024, 01:58:32 PM
No matter how careful you are, you will always lose sometimes because gambling is such a game that sometimes you lose sometimes you win. That one lose does not mean he should stop gambling because there is no way to completely avoid losses and that does not imply that gambling is not profitable. People are making a living off gambling, you just have to figure out a way to remain profitable and also hope for luck that makes the process easier. So, people will continue to lose but if you don't give up, you will win and make decent profit. If you are gambling in such a way that one loss will force you out of gambling, then you are not managing your risk properly.

Obviously, because after all defeat will always be a part that will never be separated in gambling, no matter if for example you are very careful but still the name of defeat will always be a sure thing, and this is why we are always advised to only bet small amounts in gambling which is because the possibility of defeat will always lurk until whenever but with you only betting small amounts then when you lose you will not feel too emotional because you only lose a small amount.

Haha on the other hand I am quite confused about the opinion that you conveyed above my friend, you told me that defeat can never be avoided in gambling but on the other hand you also said something that seemed to encourage and motivate gamblers to keep gambling by telling them to find ways to be able to bring more wins, and I will tell you that whatever method you use in gambling actually all of it will not really affect the results at the end of the session, I will tell you that no matter what method you use in gambling, it will never be able to guarantee victory because only luck can really make someone win while on the other hand anyone can never control luck, and this is why victory is always unknown when it comes, and you also have to understand that there are no long-term benefits in gambling, meaning that you cannot advise someone not to give up because gambling is not something that has any certainty in terms of winning. And another thing from what you said about winning in gambling I see that you are not a gambler.
257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the main points of gambling? on: May 10, 2024, 01:32:50 PM
The main point of gambling is for fun.

If someone gamble for money and become an addict, blame the gambler, not the gambling. No one force to gamble, if someone don't get the fun while and after gambling, they can stop including completely avoid it.

It just dumb someone continue to gamble in order to earn while the reality they're in loss.
Yes, definitely for fun and excitement, and getting profitable in gambling will fall as a bonus. But I think beginner gamblers have misinterpreted this. Instead, they are motivated to engage in gambling because they want to win big amount, which is only seldom to happen, because obviously gambling ends up with a lot of losses. However, if you gamble irresponsibly, that’s your problem anymore. The point of gambling is just to have fun, but not to get addicted with it.

Exactly, I agree with your opinion here that most gamblers, especially beginners, have misunderstood what winning in gambling means, and I have discussed this several times on several other pages that many gamblers misunderstand winning in gambling where they usually think that winning is something that can be used as income as we often hear from some gamblers who have entered and trapped in a cycle of addiction.

In the end, it is clear that this is the wrong mindset in responding to gambling and I am sure that someone who thinks that winning in gambling can be used as income is those who do not have a correct understanding of how gambling really is, they only see from one side only in terms of "chances of winning" but do not pay attention to other facts that the possibility of defeat will always be a part of gambling that can never be separated. In the end, from several cases that have occurred, instead of earning, they have suffered a lot of losses and all of this will be experienced when you are too excessive in treating gambling due to having the belief that gambling can be used as a place to earn. However, it is always recommended to make gambling an entertainment activity, because by having the intention only to seek entertainment, it is less likely for you to overdo it, and the point is that it is not recommended to put excessive expectations on winning and if you manage to win one of the wins then consider it a bonus for the game you have played.
258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it proper for younger ones to gamble? on: May 10, 2024, 01:08:00 PM
Some countries already have strict rule with respect to young people involving in gambling as illegal, but sincerely i also agree with them cause young people might not have developed good self control to be able to keep themselves from getting addicted to gambling.

Have you seen what pornographic contents do to underage children, they result to maturation and that is bad and those habits take a lot of time to fix even in adult hood, so it's best they stay off it.

For young people who are still underage such as under the age of 18 then yes usually casinos prohibit them from getting involved, which is one of the reasons why casinos apply KYC, namely to avoid some minors from getting involved, and other reasons yes as you said that someone who is still underage usually has an undirected, immature mindset and cannot make rational considerations for making decisions which indirectly usually their mindset leads them to the potential for greater disaster possibilities, plus they cannot control themselves.

If we talk about the impact, it is clear that if young people who are still underage are involved in gambling, it can threaten their future because they still have an unstable mindset and cannot make careful considerations in terms of each time they make a conclusion, but sometimes I quite often see some casinos that operate without involving the KYC system in it which makes anyone can be involved in gambling including minors, and I think for this problem, the rest is the duty of parents to be more vigilant in protecting their children from reaching gambling.
259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If we lose in gambling, what do we need to do? on: May 10, 2024, 12:17:09 PM
Yups, it means that it is more advisable to find and cure the cause and not cure the disease which is simply as I said above that if a gambler wants to make it easy in terms of implementing various precautions along with having the ability to control himself and his emotions then obviously everything will be easily done if from the beginning you understand about how gambling really is, In the event that you have a good understanding of how gambling works, it is less likely that you will have misconceptions about gambling, because in some cases I have seen a lot of gamblers who think that gambling is a place to make money and I will say that putting hope in a place that has absolutely no certainty and guarantee is an unreasonable idea and belief, which in addition to gambling has a possible risk of loss that can occur at any time that will make you lose money.

A person who has a correct and precise understanding of how gambling is they will not dare to act rashly in terms of making decisions and usually they only bet small amounts with the intention and purpose just to fill boring leisure time or just to find fun.
That is why it is better for players to first study many points before making crazy bets, I think the most important of them is how and on what things the casino makes money, because the most important thing lies on the surface. This is what the casino makes from players who cover operating costs and make a profit. Players seem to miss this moment and think that only they will make money, while others will lose, it’s just ridiculous to think like that. I will add that today I saw the news how in my country a girl at work stole a huge amount to place a bet, but lost everything, now her life is almost broken, she needs to pay off her debts. We need to be smarter and not do those things for which we will have to pay for the rest of our lives.

Yes, especially for beginners who have just come, however as you said that it is really advisable to first understand how gambling really is, because in any case when you understand this then usually you can make a decision that is in accordance with your abilities, or that means when you understand that gambling is not only a matter of winning opportunities but also the possibility of losing then I think you will not be rash in every decision because I'm sure everyone doesn't like the name losing money.

Therefore this is why we always recommend to treat gambling in moderation, because after all the idea of earning in gambling will never work, because the possibility of losing can never be avoided completely and will continue to lurk you during your session and also casinos always make gamblers who act excessively as their target to seek more profit from the number of gamblers who act excessively and this is also the reason why when we gamble too often then usually the number of losses is even greater. And I'm sorry to hear about the girl who stole money just to gamble, and we can see that she lost, which means that no matter how much money you bet and where you get it from if luck is not on your side then in the end it is clear that you will have the same fate as the girl.
260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about what people say about you gambling? on: May 10, 2024, 11:54:57 AM
Not all criticism are bad, some can actually be constructive

That might be the only reason I would pay little attention to what people say about me gambling. Doubt that I will accept any suggestion from them, as I never asked for that. But I will simply collect the information they give to make a conclusion how to avoid such talks in future. To find that one point in our conversation, that has moved it into talking about my gambling experience. To know where and when to navigate conversation in future from gambling topic to something else.

On the other hand, I admit that hearing criticism from other people is really unpleasant, especially if their comments are not in accordance with the facts, but I think there is nothing wrong with listening to their comments, criticism or suggestions occasionally because they might give something that does lead to our own good, such as suggesting to apply a lot of restrictions, reminding not to gamble too often or other things. and I also do this with the aim of filtering some of the comments that come in for consideration, or that means if there are some comments that contain a sense of concern for ourselves then usually I will consider it and then think and finally follow it, And I also do this in order to filter out some of the comments that come in for consideration, or I mean if for example there are some comments that contain a sense of concern for us then usually I will consider it and then think and ultimately follow what they suggest, but if for example their comments only contain ridicule or even insults then usually I just let it go.
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