So far I see that it is indeed the way you said that is more effective that should be done for the sake of prevention, in gambling there are always winning and  losing situations, but overall the defeat is usually more dominant and consecutive, unlike the victory which usually occurs occasionally in many trials. So obviously there should be no excuse for those who find it  difficult to stop when the situation is winning not to withdraw at the beginning, you have to remember a little and pay attention that winning is not easy to achieve and therefore this method is really recommended to do, the portion as you said can be 80:20 or half of 100% of the amount won.

Lately I have also used this method and even suggested it to some of my friends who are also gambling, for myself when I managed to get a win with a total of $100 for example with an initial capital of $20 which means the net win is $80, usually prioritize to make a withdrawal by withdrawing the net amount of winnings such as $80 that I mentioned and only then will I continue with the remaining $20 in my balance, like repeating it from the beginning but on the other hand I have managed to get the winnings that I have withdrawn, this way can make you calmer to continue the game. If you have thought about withdrawing my advice, do not delay it because there have been many cases of gamblers who failed to withdraw it just because of the emotion of seeing a very bad spin at that time so that the balance was lost.

Simply self-awareness of the responsibilities entrusted by the company to you must really be emphasized and maintained, as you said that even though for example our duties have been completed for work problems does not mean we are free to do anything, even though the situation may be that you cannot do outdoor activities because it will make your boss angry but still gambling today can be accessed anywhere and anytime and maybe that situation will be used as an opportunity to engage in gambling using the gatget that you have. On the other hand, even if you do it in private, you still have very bad behavior by doing other activities during work time.

So the point is that we must be able to be a person who has full responsibility for whatever we do, have good discipline along with being able to divide time according to the schedule you have, if you are working then it is better to allocate all your intentions and seriousness to work, do not do other activities, after all there are still quite a lot of time that you can use to gamble, such as after work. However, even if you feel safe doing it, there will still be time for the carcass to smell and that means that one day there is a potential that your boss will find out about your bad habit of gambling during working hours, and that could threaten your job.

Right, I agree with your idea about this, gambling is always about luck and that is the reason why there are losers and there are winners, if gambling does not depend on luck then wouldn't all gamblers be able to get a winning streak? Another thing is between rich or poor I also agree with you that indeed gambling is a game of probability or chance that does not see whether you are rich or poor, the casino only sees that if you come with money as a condition of betting then you will be one of the gamblers who will receive the final result between winning or losing.

Well and maybe the difference between rich and poor may be in terms of their financial capacity, obviously the rich have the opportunity to do a lot of experiments and the poor may only occasionally, so the conclusion is that rich or poor really has no effect on the final outcome of gambling, but this is just a difference in terms of the opportunity they have to experiment, in gambling the wheel will continue to spin meaning that all gamblers will experience losing and winning, there are occasions where the rich lose and the poor win or vice versa, and that cycle will continue unless you stop so basically this is just a game of probability.

If I may be honest and from a realistic mind I really feel worried about the situation that looks very concerning, maybe there are some places around the world that think that the situation is normal, in the sense that gambling by the elderly has become a familiar thing, but for myself, especially in my place, I honestly never saw the elderly involved in gambling, although maybe it cannot be denied that there might be one who does it but overall considering that gambling activities in my country are very illegal it makes it quite unlikely that the popularity of an elderly person to be involved in this activity.

On the other hand, perhaps as we know that overall it is usually young people who are more and more often involved in gambling, maturity of thinking can also be one of the influential factors, which is usually an elderly or over 40 years of age is very mature in responding to anything, they will only do something that seems reasonable and reasonable, while in gambling it is about winning and losing which always depends on luck to win and if they are unlucky then they will lose money. So in conclusion, I think one of the reasons why not many elderly people are involved in gambling is because they have a very mature mindset so that it makes them less interested in choosing / doing something that does not have any certainty. On the other hand, this situation is indeed worrying and the fear is that they end up with addiction.

Everyone has their own way of allocating the money they win from gambling, whether it's used for their own needs, spending with friends or like you did, giving all the money you won to your parents, and everyone also has their own capacity for pleasure and joy, It is possible that other gamblers will not be too happy when the money from his winnings is given to his family members including his own parents and the situation is reversed when you are the one who managed to get the winnings by preferring to give the money to your parents because with that action it will come out a feeling of pleasure and more significant, and also on the other hand for the problem of how long the pleasure lasts in the self and mind then it also depends on where you allocate the money from your gambling winnings.

Giving to both parents can indeed make us feel happy in a period of time that may be longer than using it for other things such as partying because usually parents are more frugal in using money and prefer to use it for family needs such as daily food costs, so the money you make can be useful for all family members at home when they come to eat food made from your winning money. Basically giving something in any form to our parents can make us happy and feel proud of ourselves, it applies to anything and not just money. Another thing is that you have a pretty good approach to gambling by only putting small amounts, keep it up.

Yes it seems that the OP was really lucky at the time so he could buy the items he needed to complete the needs in his house, but this topic only dominates when someone is really lucky by managing to get a big win, of course with that then maybe we can complete the idea that in gambling it is not always about winning but there are two situations of winning and losing, the situation will be different and will not be included in the discussion in this topic if for example we lose. But overall I think what the OP is doing is something we should consider and follow in terms of using the winnings wisely rather than applying greed and starting over with an uncertain end result.

However this is a good idea but there will always be people out there who are still too sure of a much bigger win so they act on something that is never recommended in gambling such as applying greed, I see that the responsibility said and suggested by the OP is nothing more than allocating the winning budget for something wiser than putting it all back into gambling with an unknown end result.

Of course and it will only be a waste of their time, from one side alone we can already conclude that it is very difficult to achieve the success of getting a big win as a provision for retirement if the place to find funds is gambling, as you said, let alone to get a big win like that basically to get a win with a medium amount or 100% of the capital we bring alone is very difficult, so with that already don't be too excessive in putting your hopes on gambling, this idea will only endanger yourself. Instead of getting money to fund retirement but what happens instead is losing a lot of money as a result of your process of chasing big wins that are completely uncertain.

Yes even experienced gamblers I don't think will be able to get results like that, I don't mean you can't but I doubt you will be able to go through the process, big wins can happen but the problem is can you survive the many trials that have the risk of losing all your money? If you answer based on emotions then obviously you will say "Yes" but try to use a healthy mindset in gambling because emotions will only make the situation worse. That's right, forget the idea of getting a big win, it's not unattainable but it's just too difficult and I doubt you'll be able to withstand all the pressure that could potentially make you depressed.

Addiction is always synonymous with overdoing something, not just in gambling but also with other things that in general usually have a bad impact. On the other hand, if indeed their gambling involvement involves or even harms other people, one of them is the closest relative or brother, then yes I would agree with your idea that most likely his relatives will definitely help the person to get out of this bad activity, even though we don't know what they will do but with the intention alone I think it's very good. Another thing is that I think one of the things that relatives can/will do to overcome their addiction is to limit the person's activities in every way possible in order to keep them away from gambling.

But on the other hand, we must know that all methods and assistance are very unlikely to succeed if the person suffering from addiction does not want to do it or means not wanting to stop to get better and get out of the addiction problem, because obviously overcoming gambling addiction must always start from the person's awareness which of course with that it will be able to pave the way and facilitate the healing process, but if they themselves refuse help from their relatives then I think it is still quite unlikely to succeed.

It is clear as I said above that doing more experiments in the hope that victory will be closer will only waste your time and money because not all the experiments you do will end in victory, I think everything I said above is clear  about how luck works which also makes no sense if you do a lot of experiments because the results will be the same even the number of defeats is more than victory if you do manage to pursue the victory.

On the other hand, it is true that it is not uncommon for me to see someone who manages to get a win after which there is a change in mindset where because they are too much in feeling the sensation and excitement of victory makes them feel confident that they are great at betting, which in fact all returns to the luck that comes at the same time. I understand that in sports betting skills are needed to increase the winning percentage to be closer, but sometimes you may also be familiar with some strong teams that can be defeated by weak teams and that means if you bet there on the strong team then obviously you will lose  your bet amount. So understanding the concept of gambling along with how luck works should really be emphasized, with that I think you will not act out of control and will not put confidence in yourself.

True, now more and more online-based gambling sites are popping up and also of course more and more spread along with more and more people who come to engage in this online-based gambling, how can I not also admit that the online gambling situation is easier to do and understand, even ordinary people have no trouble adapting, casinos are really smart, they know their target market so the reach is getting wider and I see that some gamblers cannot maintain their gambling activities properly so they end up as addicts by experiencing many financial problems in their lives. Yes for the problem of which people will choose between the type of online or offline gambling honestly we can't measure it for sure, but from my point of view lately it seems that more people are involved in online gambling or maybe there are even some offline gamblers who switch to online gambling, as I said above because of the many conveniences that are there, one of which maybe you don't need to bother to go to a physical casino because in an online casino you can gamble anytime and anywhere by using a gadget connected to the internet.

Of course all of this is about the choice of each gambler to choose which one they prefer and which can make them safer and more comfortable even though both still have the potential for addiction because both run randomly, yes I agree that lately more people have fallen victim to addiction to the type of online gambling, ease of adaptation and access is a strong reason.

I think all of this is nothing more  than a choice, as you said, everyone has their own preferences in any matter and this includes choosing  whether they want to work under someone else's auspices with the risk of having to comply with all the regulations of the company/organization or prefer to start everything from zero by starting a business that basically  has no certainty whether you will succeed or fail and instead waste a lot of money and time as capital from your participation  in the business  you are building..

Honestly, I can't conclude which one is better to choose because it's a fact that some people choose to work under someone else and some people choose to open a business, but maybe here I will mention a little about some of the reasons why they choose one of the two. In my opinion, one of the reasons why people prefer to work is because they feel that the income they will get is guaranteed every month as a salary from the company on condition that they become one of the good employees, disciplined and obedient to the rules, so with that they give up themselves to be under the boss's index finger and most importantly can have an income to continue living, and for people who choose to become entrepreneurs there are usually several factors that can also influence, Although they have no certainty about the income they will achieve as well as whether the business will succeed or fail, as far as I know their main priority is freedom where they have a lot of time for many other things and are not under the rules of others, not only that, they also usually have a fairly developed mindset, maybe that's one of the reasons for the two different perspectives in terms of choosing.

All the points you mentioned that lead to financial failure really have great potential and influence, the difficulty of leaving habits that are actually meaningless is one of the things that is very difficult to do by someone who is already in the comfort zone so that financial improvement is always delayed, there is no hard work that causes no guarantee for certainty. Not a few or even very many people - people who are afraid of failure even though they have never tried it at all so that it also makes them even longer stuck in the comfort zone and procrastination.

On the other hand, to be honest, I am  an ordinary person living in the middle class, and maybe it is not uncommon for us to see some people who have succeeded in their lives, successful people can come out and put aside some of the above lists that can  hinder their success process, realizing that life is hard and everything is a race about who can get ahead or excel so they always try, not giving up easily, have a forward-thinking mindset so that bitter experiences and sweaty struggles bring them to the top point in their lives, but success is not the end of the journey because maybe you have often heard that "the higher the tree, the stronger the wind that hits" it happens but they have extraordinary experiences that can make them still be able to survive at the peak of success..

That's what I always think, it's very strange when people bring the word "success" in gambling, because after all this is an activity that has no culmination of success, which means that gamblers will only rotate in the cycle between winning and losing, on the other hand if the word "success" is intended for other things such as businesses that are run by most people in general it makes sense because there is a process that must be passed first as a sacrifice for something bigger or achieving their dreams, but if you bring the assumption of success to the world of gambling then it is clearly quite strange and does not make sense.

The word "success" contradicts what addicts experience in reality and based on the fact that how can an addict who is always experiencing financial problems due to the impact of gambling be called a successful person? as you said that addicts are always synonymous with something negative in their gambling involvement, one of the clear evidence of the badness of an addict is that maybe you have seen some addicts who are desperate to commit acts out of control such as stealing or robbing because they run out of money to gamble, and that is also the reason why gambling has a negative viewpoint in the eyes of society in general.

If indeed the end result is really winning even though winning is not the main priority for me except fun and entertainment but for the problem of how long the fun lasts honestly for myself the fun only lasts at most 1 - 2 hours, in the sense that when I have entered several other activities then the pleasure of my gambling winnings will disappear by itself, I don't know what the problem is but that's what I feel and maybe there are also some people who are the same or vice versa.

Another thing for the problem of defeat I am not too excessive in reacting to it, because from the beginning I have agreed with myself that whatever the result inevitably I have to accept it because there is nothing I can do, if my money is gone then maybe it's time, after all this is gambling which means winning or losing is normal, all gamblers feel it but unfortunately not all gamblers can handle every losing condition well, on the contrary I often see some of them who even chase victory to break even, even though if we look rationally there is absolutely nothing that can be done for a recovery in gambling, it will only be a waste of time and money.

Finally I see a different situation by reading the ideas you convey, honestly I quite agree with your statement that the situation experienced by the OP is only when we are really lucky and then consider choosing a more appropriate and wise decision by prioritizing cashing out the winning amount, this is a situation where gamblers manage to get a big win which means several times the amount of capital they bring. But on the other hand, this wise consideration I think is quite difficult for them to choose if the winnings are not much, they will think and assume that "this amount is meaningless" even though basically it can also still be called a win and the difference may be only a small amount that is visible.

In situations like this I'm sure that most gamblers would prefer to prioritize greed over cashing out, honestly on the other hand maybe I will also admit that usually I will decide to cash out when I get a return with a percentage of 100%, for example bringing a capital of $10 and if for example it increases with a win and reaches the amount of $20 then usually I agree with myself to cash out.

Yes, because addiction is nested in human thought patterns in any case, this concerns habits that people enjoy so that it is one of the reasons why it is difficult for them to get out of activities that are difficult for them to miss, so don't run away from the problem but solve the problem and find out what's wrong and what needs to be improved, I think awareness is one of the big drivers for a change in mindset and beliefs, realizing that this activity is not suitable for you because it only causes a lot of problems for your finances. But on the other hand, why are other people still fine? Every gambler has a different approach, there are some gamblers who don't understand the concept of gambling which is only about chance and there are also those who only focus on winning and they think as if "chance" is a certain thing so that excessive actions occur and they do it.

As I said although my experience  says that I can do it alone by successfully quitting the addiction but on theother hand you can still choose another addition as a boost, which is to involve others in the process of mindset recovery, not too significant but definitely quite helpful. As we know that usually the urge to gamble always comes when we don't have anything to do or mean to have free time, and that means you have to fill the empty time with other activities, like what I did is adding a part-time job, I only have time to sleep and no time to relax, the goal is to make my mind distracted from gambling.

Firstly, as you said it's very rare for anyone to be able to do that, one of the reasons is because of course in general and overall we probably already know that gambling activities have absolutely no certainty for the end result and that means it's very difficult to get a win, while on the other hand the funds needed to spend retirement are very large although it depends on the lifestyle of each individual, but still it's too difficult to reach if you are just a casual gambler. I think this idea would make sense if you are one of the casino owners which means that obviously the money you have from the casino business you run is huge, no need to think about anything and just wait for the gamblers to lose and then you get a lot of money, doesn't that make more sense?

If you are stubbornly looking for big wins to fund your retirement then obviously the opposite will happen which is the true fact that most gamblers always suffer from the number of defeats, the more you try the more you will lose because it is impossible for gamblers to get lucky in a row. Right, the mindset really has to be straightened out in this case, it's better that they look for other more certain and promising places to cash in, after all I don't think there is retirement in gambling, it's just an activity to fill empty time, and if you feel that this activity is interfering with your finances then obviously at any time you can stop.

Yes so I think this is a common scenario experienced by gamblers and as I said before that most of them experience the same scenario when they see an opportunity or that means too focused on winning opportunities and obviously changes in mindset, beliefs and behavior will occur, not only that the wrong point of view and understanding makes them experience encouragement when in certain situations, losing and winning situations can change a person's behavior, and it happens more often when they are in a losing situation which ultimately affects mentally and psychologically which ultimately acts under emotional pressure.

You have proven it by experiencing it yourself, not just you because I also admit and I think this scenario applies to all gamblers, sometimes even though we have self-control and boundaries, it's still like you said that there are always times when we are careless because our consciousness starts to weaken which eventually falls and forgets the boundaries we have made before. But on the other hand having a plan for self-control and boundaries is much better than having none at all, because obviously there is a difference in terms of minimizing risk if you have a plan, so self-control, boundaries and awareness should be prioritized when you are involved in gambling.

It's true and I think there have been many cases where relationships have been destroyed just because of gambling, not just affecting relationships with relatives or friends, but it can even end in divorce between husband and wife, I often see some information from the news that shows separation in triggered by economic conditions that were not possible or were getting weaker and added to this by the many problems of being in debt which of course I can imagine what their condition was like at that time, the allocation of money to something that was basically not needed, such as gambling, was one of the causes so that in end up experiencing chronic financial problems and losing balance.

Therefore it is important for us to understand what is actually called gambling, this is not a productive activity but only an activity for fun which should not be done seriously or even prioritized, otherwise there will be obvious negative impacts such as possibly suffering financial problems. It's something we might experience.

Not everyone will be that patient and not everyone will be that lucky, on the other hand believe me that the more you try to engage in gambling the more you will lose and this is not a good way to get a lot of wins/profits and the opposite will happen you will suffer a lot of losses. You can't suggest this idea as an alternative if you're not prepared to be  blamed later by gamblers who follow your suggested method and I would say that what you've mentioned leads to much worse results than you might imagine.

Do you understand what luck is  and how it works? One of the reasons why it is called luck is because there is no consistency in how luck works, while on the other hand the results of gambling only refer to that if the results are what you want, a fact-based scenario is, when you try 10 chances/gambling sessions, don't they all work? maybe there will only be 1 - 4 wins, but what about the rest of the losers? isn't that the same thing guys? winning 4 bets at the expense of 6 losses is a ridiculous approach, many people are fooled by the way luck works which ends up with increased confidence for something wrong, so just gamble moderately without focusing on the final result.