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1241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 07, 2024, 03:47:53 PM
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

This is terrible when a gambling addiction is ruining a family. But I wouldn't say that it's something only linked to gambling, and form of addiction is having severe impacts on the family and can ruin. With gambling addictions the patient will use all the money he gets his hands on to go and play at casinos, with the alcohol addictions he will just go to the supermarket and buy as much alcohol as possible. I think we should be more open to all types of addictions and not to only one. It's hard for the family to see the life of a loved one ruined without being able to change it.

It's true and I think there have been many cases where relationships have been destroyed just because of gambling, not just affecting relationships with relatives or friends, but it can even end in divorce between husband and wife, I often see some information from the news that shows separation in triggered by economic conditions that were not possible or were getting weaker and added to this by the many problems of being in debt which of course I can imagine what their condition was like at that time, the allocation of money to something that was basically not needed, such as gambling, was one of the causes so that in end up experiencing chronic financial problems and losing balance.

Therefore it is important for us to understand what is actually called gambling, this is not a productive activity but only an activity for fun which should not be done seriously or even prioritized, otherwise there will be obvious negative impacts such as possibly suffering financial problems. It's something we might experience.
1242  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do people always play gambling even if they always lose? on: January 07, 2024, 03:14:03 PM

It's very true that if you try gambling every day one day you must surly get lucky, there's no way you stay unlucky all through the week, you definitely get lucky at a particular point in time and if you are much more Lucky you recover and even make more profit, but not everyone will be patient enough some will quit after a few trials because they believe they don't have to make several trials to be lucky, a few trials should have gotten them Tru while some other may tend towards addiction in a bid to recover all they have lost in the few trials they have already made.

Not everyone will be that patient and not everyone will be that lucky, on the other hand believe me that the more you try to engage in gambling the more you will lose and this is not a good way to get a lot of wins/profits and the opposite will happen you will suffer a lot of losses. You can't suggest this idea as an alternative if you're not prepared to be  blamed later by gamblers who follow your suggested method and I would say that what you've mentioned leads to much worse results than you might imagine.

Do you understand what luck is  and how it works? One of the reasons why it is called luck is because there is no consistency in how luck works, while on the other hand the results of gambling only refer to that if the results are what you want, a fact-based scenario is, when you try 10 chances/gambling sessions, don't they all work? maybe there will only be 1 - 4 wins, but what about the rest of the losers? isn't that the same thing guys? winning 4 bets at the expense of 6 losses is a ridiculous approach, many people are fooled by the way luck works which ends up with increased confidence for something wrong, so just gamble moderately without focusing on the final result.
1243  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online or offline gambling which is more safer? on: January 07, 2024, 02:47:03 PM

True, all casinos whether online or offline are equally risky and the point is that all betting will never be free from the name of risk with a little chance of winning, but for the problem of how much risk will be suffered by gamblers it really depends on how they approach their gambling activities, I don't care whether it's online or offline casinos but certainly if you are involved in any bet and you gamble excessively then I am sure you will lose a considerable amount, But as long as you can accept all the losses by having a very good responsibility then maybe it won't be a problem for you, because what usually becomes a problem is when gamblers cannot accept defeat and that's when they will experience big problems because gambling is based on emotions to chase the money that has been lost. Yes that's right, casinos are not at fault at all because they only provide gambling activities and in no way tell someone to overdo it, as I said above that if the amount you lose is very large then it's your own fault for not being able to discipline and control yourself.
Gambling, online or offline, has inherent risks. You're right that gamblers are responsible, but let's widen this. Ultimately, gambling is a test of self-control and chance. Complex psychology underlies gambling desires. One might easily get lost in the thrill-risk maze without self-awareness. This is more than simply a hobby - it's a behavioral trap that can catch even the most disciplined

Gambling's emotional side is a steep slope. Losing can be devastating, but winning can be intoxicating. Gambling is about fighting our own instincts as well as the house. You must accept losing and understand the emotional causes that lead to risky gambling. Avoiding casino blame, this is about educating gamblers. They need both hope and loss-handling strategies. Gambling should be fun, not costly and stressful

Of course as I said above that whatever type of gambling you do it is still basically a gamble that risks money for uncertain results, online or offline cannot be used as a reference on how much you will lose or how much you will win, it is unknown and it all depends on the approach you take especially the impact of the risks you will experience, so the point is that all gambling will never be separated from risk, and that is why we must always pay attention and focus on risk management along with being a responsible gambler. On the other hand, yes what you said is true, that on the other hand gambling is like a self-control test activity, most people have difficulty controlling themselves because of misunderstandings in responding to opportunities that ultimately make them lost and difficult to achieve self-awareness and ultimately difficult to prevent potential risks.

In both winning and losing situations there is really nothing better especially for gamblers who are always focused on earning, winning is not the end of success but that is where they will apply greed for the final result which is usually more not what they want, and losing obviously makes them emotional because of the inability to accept reality, so I think there is really no better situation for this type of gambler, so there is nothing better than cashing in when winning and resting when losing.
1244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's Your Feeling After You Finish Gambling. on: January 06, 2024, 08:25:26 PM
The feelings produced after gambling depend on the initial expectations when gambling. When the hope of winning at gambling is not fulfilled, feelings of disappointment, despair will arise and can trigger depression. Gamblers are often trapped in a cycle of negative feelings due to not being able to control their emotions when they lose.
Gamblers' feelings can change to happiness and euphoria after winning, but these feelings can quickly change to frustration and anger when they lose. Gamblers' emotional fluctuations can change instantly depending on the results obtained after gambling.
Majorly the feeling expected is a win and calculations on how to spend the money and constant checks on the game and if their will be any chance for a chasout if uncertainty sets in its now a three option thing you win lose or you cashout half way.
Their is nothing more painful than when you lose a bet because you already had an expectation. Gambling knows how to twist people's emotions. Another factor is frustration and fury; gambling is simple but can also be tricky, especially with emotions. Emotions bring with them a variety of feelings. And one thing about it is that it gives and takes so much depending on the face you are showing at the time.

Winning is the main focus for most gamblers, we can't lie because winning comes in the form of money and everyone wants money so that's one of the reasons why gamblers always go overboard in their involvement in order to realize their dreams, their hopes are not wrong but what is wrong is that they put their hopes and expectations on something that has no guarantee and certainty to produce, so when defeat occurs most of them cannot accept the fact that they lost.

Cashing out is always the best option if you manage to get a winning amount in one of your sessions, but most of them don't remember that regret always comes at the end so they prefer to play greed in that situation which is basically the end of the session will not always be predictable, and there are usually more regrets than smiles. So if your goal is to win then why when you get it you are greedy? isn't it all still uncertain and you have proven it yourself that it is very difficult to get a win, don't end up getting emotional because it's all your own fault for not being able to be grateful for what you got at the beginning.
1245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Low cost but effective solutions to gambling addiction on: January 06, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
If the gambler is really ready to stop gambling nif not it will be very hard for him to change his mind even at that routine counseling process. I think in the professional therapy, you don't have to spend money to stop. You can just meet your pastor and tell him that you want to stop gambling and you cannot control it, then he will pray for you and still put you in time frame to counsel you everyday for like one month or plus. And if you really ready to stop everything will go down gradually. Because you don't have to force such things to go, it is part of the mind at that time.

One of the things that makes it difficult for gamblers to get out of their gambling activities is that they are very fond of the activity, actually in my opinion it is quite simple formula if you really want to get out of gambling, all addiction diseases are in a person's mindset due to mistakes in putting hope in winning, the point is that if you are able to realize all the mistakes and accept the fact that you can never become a rich man just by gambling then I think it is not difficult for you to get out of this activity.

It can be done alone but it will be more effective if it is accompanied by the help of others like the suggestion you said by asking for prayers to priests and not only that, on the other hand there must also be an agreement with the closest people to keep us from getting into the same hole like always reminding us every time or preventing us when we want to gamble. Honestly on the other hand I am one of the people who was able to recover from gambling addiction in my own way, did not need the help of others and I did everything based on self-awareness, if you want to get out of gambling then you should try to keep yourself busy with other things one of which is like adding work, don't spend even a little time without activity, do it and let me know if it doesn't work for you. Wink
1246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone here who retired with Gambling winnings ? on: January 06, 2024, 07:24:00 PM
Anyone here who retired with Gambling winnings ?  If not, how much you think is sufficient to retire as Gambling winning ?

There is no amount of winning that you will be compelled to retire there are records of gamblers who won a big amount of money then eventually lost it from gambling, in fact, it's the other way around it will motivate gamblers more because of the greed of winning more, gamblers stopped when they do not have funds or they have cured their urge to gamble.

It is quite unlikely or even impossible to decide to retire from gambling when you are in a winning situation, people come to gambling to get a win although there are some gamblers who are not too focused on that result, but usually and overall it is always the win that is a motivation to continue. So I think what the OP is asking is not wrong but the problem is that it is quite difficult to be true when they manage to get a win and in fact the opposite happens, not stopping or retiring but instead continuing with a crazier approach because as you said greed will have a role and be prioritized by most gamblers, especially those who are addicted when they find such a situation. Logically who doesn't need money? obviously everyone wants it and when the big win comes the opposite will happen which is a change in mindset with the aim of achieving a much bigger win, simply put it is very difficult to be in a good conscious when you get money that seems to fall from the sky.
1247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Alter Ego In Gambling on: January 06, 2024, 07:02:30 PM
Multiple personalities that can occur when someone is in a depressed situation or vice versa that can make them feel attracted to something. But on the other hand, in my opinion, your friend experienced a change in  behavior and mindset because he saw a winning opportunity in gambling, not only your friend because I think cases like this happen and most gamblers experience the same thing, and I will say that people like that are those who are easily provoked by something that looks quite tempting which in the end they try to take advantage of the situation and circumstances, On the other hand when they are in a situation like that then I am sure that they will not consider that it is carelessness especially if at the beginning of the session you are given a win, that's the danger if you are too sure of something that has no certainty.
1248  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling life could affect your relatives lifes. on: January 06, 2024, 06:35:22 PM
I have come across Local gamblers who are addicted to gambling and had ruined their selves by themselves til they ran bankrupt yet they borrows money to gamble at all means even While being indebted.
Theses sets of gamblers doesn't have remorse nor conscience about their gambling lifestyles instead their friends and relatives are the ones who bears the shameful consequences the addicted gambler brought to their circle of relationships.
At the virtue of getting the unbearable situations to an end, the relatives broadcasts the chronic addicted gambler at all costs of gambling boards never to give him privileges to gamble in any of the Gambling arenas anymore else they (the relatives) would sue the gambling boards owner.
This is just how recklessness could mess your life of you can't take control to gamble responsibly.

Take note and be aware that your way of gambling could affect your relationships and the circle of your relatives.

I agree with you. A player is usually an adult enough to realize the consequences of their actions. If he can't stop in time to analyze his mistakes, he has to be guided to the right path by any means necessary. A professional player should be able to keep his temper in check, and try to keep his emotions in check

If they are already at the level of addiction with a chronic level then I think it is quite natural if they do things beyond expectations, whether they are mature enough or  even old but still the impact of gambling has minimized awareness in their minds so that it is difficult to do better things or even just consider. For a gambler who has entered the phase of chronic addiction then I think there is little chance of recovery if they just do it alone without any help from anyone, as you said that there must be someone who is willing to guide him in all ways that are needed and needed to change his mindset and beliefs. Because what is  feared is that one day they could be in a situation that is really concerning by experiencing great pressure due to their excessive gambling activities  which of course cannot be denied and it is possible for them to think about ending their lives.
1249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The is always on gambling, never the individual. on: January 06, 2024, 02:45:49 PM
Yes what the OP said is true and maybe I would also blame the person more than the gambling, because casinos created gambling just for leisure activities and not for something that should be done seriously, fun should be the main focus if you want to engage in gambling, understanding the basic concept of gambling about winning and losing will at least keep you a little awake from the wrong point of view and out of control actions. People say that gambling almost ruined their lives when in fact there are quite a few people out there (gamblers) who are doing just fine despite their involvement in gambling.

It is very clear that the main problem and cause is because they are unable to control their gambling activities, do not understand that gambling is a game of probability that has no certainty and guarantees that are only suggested to fill empty time when you are off work for example. And I'm sure the person the OP is referring to is one of those who is nothing but a victim of addiction due to having the wrong approach, so the point is if you want to gamble then first understand what gambling is, what the chances of winning are and how bad the risks are in gambling, if you don't want to lose money then it's better not to get involved.

The gambler who want the entertainment alone and doesn’t need any money returns will be the successful gambler.Because they can feel the gambling without any depression,the expectation will always hurt.We know this,the Men always know this.Because if he love the girl,she may reject his proposals.The same thing will happen in the marriage proposal of the men.The gambling was the third one in the row for the men.So the experienced gamblers will try to entertain themselves with the good entertainment.The wrong approach to the gambling by expecting the dollars as the return will leads to the loss in the gambling at the end.

What do you mean by success? does it mean that they will get a lot of money from gambling so that they can become rich people? it doesn't make sense if the idea of success is brought to gambling, but on the other hand, I conclude that maybe the word success you mean is those who can maintain and control their gambling properly so that it stays fine and does not experience a large number of defeats. It is true that excessive expectations are usually the problem why gamblers are unable to accept the fact at the end of the session that they lost so that emotions dominate and finally chase defeat to return the money that has been lost without a specified time limit, simply put, excessive expectations will only make us feel disappointed at the end of the session.

Exactly, experienced gamblers will usually know what they should do, none other than because they already have a high number of hours in gambling so they can know what to do if the situation in gambling starts to go wrong such as taking a break and resuming tomorrow, and different from gamblers who are always focused on winning. instead of getting a win but the opposite happens they suffer the number of losses in the long run slowly.
1250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do people always play gambling even if they always lose? on: January 06, 2024, 02:24:15 PM
Once you experience win one time surely you will seek to find more and hope to win more. That is the possible reason why your friend always keeps playing, or else your friend wants to take back all of the lost money they made in playing gambling of course one of the solutions to get quick money is playing gambling too, but I guess this is not the most suitable because seems like they are keep increasing the number of money they will lose in the house. If your friend has a sideline or job and keeps gambling it is okay it's their leisure time but if not and other people get affected like having a debt that's the time i guess they stop this dream for a while to get a large money in playing gambling.

It's usually like that, the first win really makes gamblers feel a great sensation so after that they intend to pursue other wins in order to get money and sensations like before, and another thing is that the first win usually makes gamblers put higher expectations, if the amount they get at the beginning is $100 for example then usually next they will pursue more than that and this is where all the real scenarios will start.

Gambling with the intention of looking for a win like before and if the result is losing then it's not a problem, they still have the spirit to try, despite the fact that defeat dominates in the next session until they run out of money but usually they have other alternatives to get money such as borrowing from several services or to one of their friends for gambling capital, the loan amount is getting bigger because winning is still difficult to get so it is not uncommon to see gambling addicts who end up in a lot of debt and lose all the valuable assets they have. In my opinion, the problem is that they misunderstand what the chances of winning are, not certainty but nothing more than opportunities which means that they can succeed and can also fail, this mindset must be corrected so that awareness can help them before it's too late and regret it.
1251  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you win? on: January 06, 2024, 02:04:24 PM

I'm trying to understand the essence of what you're saying, but not the title of this thread. there are several points in the content of your post that make me confused, and a little ambiguous. especially at the point of distributing games and letting those who are interested choose and play on their favorite gambling site, with this help we can win together. at this point, I'm not getting anything that I can understand. forgive me, if I am wrong in interpreting it. so here it is, it needs to be understood. basically, gambling always involves luck, and that's why we bet.
for example, if you, we, I, already knew that every bet we would win, would it be interesting? if so, it's no longer called gambling. gambling always contains risks, I'm sure you also understand that very well. this type of entertainment is very expensive, because we have to spend capital to play it. however, there are things that are interesting and fun if we can get the essence according to our own version. whatever site you use or favourite, it makes no difference in the gambling session. most importantly, the casino can be held accountable, has a license and a reputation and credibility. however, when you start playing, you are betting on your own luck. whatever recommendations we say, tips, tricks, it's useless if it doesn't benefit someone. especially, if it cannot be understood.

For me, there are two differences in my gambling, depending on which one I want to play. for example, if the game involves pure luck, then I wouldn't expect to win anything over the top. because these thoughts will interfere with our enjoyment of the game session. play according to your portion, if you lose, you lose, if you win, enjoy it, it's that simple. in certain phases, there is the potential to get big hits depending on your luck when playing it.
On the other hand, things are different when I bet on sports. in this gambling session, I don't really involve luck. because, there are variables that I have to do before I choose a match that I will be involved in betting on. in this process, we can involve the insights we have, experience, knowledge, techniques, analysis and research. after all that process, we hand everything over to the team that will compete. and believe it or not, as long as I do it correctly without involving and taking sides with one of the competing teams, then I will wisely choose the ideal option for me. and usually, I often win even though my version of gambling is with a small bankroll. the point is, someone can process and how to respond to their gambling. if you keep losing, especially for weeks or months, then there is something wrong with someone's gambling.
Indeed, grandiose expectations are delusions in pure chance games. The unknown fascinates us, right? It's a simple, almost rhythmic dance with luck: we bet, we lose, and we win. In any case, here's some truth: the house always wins. No matter the game, the casino wants long-term success. So, playing isn't only about chance; it's about recognizing this truth

Turning to sports betting, you tell a good story. Yes, we contribute knowledge, research, and analysis. But don't you think there's an illusion of control here? Stats and history help us pick teams, but once the game starts, we have no control. Someone else has the ball! Our sports betting wins make us feel like strategists, but aren't we also subject to game-day dynamics? How we analyze and respond to our gambling habits is essential. Strategy matters more than result. Though more engaged in sports betting, aren't we still toying with luck in a more sophisticated manner?

And the mistake of putting excessive expectations is what makes a lot of gamblers end up with addiction, I agree with you that all of that is nothing more than a delusion that comes out as a result of putting excessive expectations, I understand that in gambling there is a chance of winning but we must understand that all of that is nothing more than a "chance" which means it has not become a certainty. As you say it is exactly right that all the results at the end of gambling, especially victory, are nothing more than a "coincidence" that at the same time you managed to get luck so that you can win, but people seem to think that they are great at that time so there is no word to stop and continue with greed which finally regrets it when it turns out that luck is no longer there and loses all its winnings.

In sports people only rely on team normality by using analysis as a way to identify which team is better that season, but still when the match has started then the risk still has the possibility to occur, I have seen several times that it turns out that the team that is favored can lose to a medium or far below average team, so still sports betting is also a gamble about winning and losing in the end which means the idea of self-control along with limits must still be applied there.
1252  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does the tension make you take risk that are sometimes worth it? on: January 06, 2024, 01:33:33 PM
There are times before that I would gamble when I am stress or feeling down.
And on those times before I would win and it would either brighten up my day or just feel like a normal thing happened to me.
But if you gamble when you are stressed or feeling sad, you can get deeper into gambling. Even if you lose, you can become more emotional and will not be able to control your emotions due to the loss, so you can be triggered to gamble longer than usual. Just a suggestion, if you are stressed or feeling sad, you should not approach gambling because your emotions will increase because you are losing. But if you can get rid of that stress and sadness by gambling, well, that's up to you, but there is a risk behind it all, and you have to be prepared for the risk and accept it.

I would say it is best if you gamble with a clear mind as you know when to stop.
Because if you are sad or depressed, for sure, there will be unnecessary consequences as you will be slave of your emotions.
Do remember, even if you are in calm position, when you place bet, your heart is already beating fast when the game is almost over.
How much more if you are in bad state and couldn't think clear? So you will put yourself in a terrible position where you may regret later on.

Right, because gambling involves a lot of thoughts and feelings and if you're able to gamble with a good level of composure then obviously I think you'll be able to do some of the best actions when things aren't going well, or I mean like you said stop when the situation is losing at the end of the session, stop and rest and then continue another day. Well not a few gamblers also come with a situation that is not okay, or means having other problems in their life then they gamble or distract themselves with gambling, I think this is very dangerous and gambling should not be used as an alternative when you are in a situation of a lot of problems because of other things.

Because obviously it is very likely that you will gamble by relying on emotions from the beginning to the end of the session which of course usually everything that is done is based on emotions, the results will be much worse than what is imagined, sometimes when we gamble with calmness alone there is still the potential to end up emotional especially when losing a large enough amount. So the point is that if you really have other problems in life then it is clearly better to find other alternatives, vacation with friends or partners to other places and do not allocate your intentions to gambling because it will only add to the problem.
1253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves? on: January 06, 2024, 01:10:52 PM
Now, if it was as easy to actually abide by these principles as it is to talk about them, guess we would not have any addicts in this world lol
There are many ways that casinos use the strategy to break your principles even if you win and rush to log out. I ever intended to stop if I won $100 and withdraw the profit soon. But, I don't know what happened to all my profit (won $100) and lose. I didn't even stop after reached the winning, there are something like a magical whisper to keep me playing. that very insane, because I can't hear anything after my money's gone  Grin. it is very difficult to maintain principles if you gambler because the habit bring you to bet until the button can't be pressed.

You are not alone my friend Cheesy casinos really have a formula that can be said to be very powerful to keep gamblers there before the money runs out in each session, I don't know what happens but you also feel that it is really very difficult to get out even though you have managed to get a decent win, like you said even though you have reached the target of $100 you want but it all feels unfinished, like there is a whisper that goes into the ear telling us to stay there.

On the other hand, I'm sure that's the whisper of greed
 that always comes when we are lucky enough in one of our sessions haha, although maybe you are one of those people who are instigated to continue because of greed but I think it's normal because almost every gambler experiences scenarios like this including me too. Honestly for myself when I am a little aware that greed is starting to appear in my mind then usually I like to think for a moment and promise myself that if I lose I will not regret it too much, like for example I brought $10 capital and got a win to $100 and if indeed at that time all the winnings were lost because of greed then I always try to remember that I "only lost $10 not $100" just think that the victory I got earlier was just a passing wind.  Cheesy
1254  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online or offline gambling which is more safer? on: January 06, 2024, 12:50:55 PM

Playing online or offline gambling which is more preferable in terms of risk reduction?

Both offer risks when there are still no online casinos there are people losing everything playing in physical casinos until now that there are online casinos there are still people who play and lose everything in physical casinos, so both platforms have risks and if you're not playing responsibly you will end up losing everything, its not the platforms its more on how you discipline yourself so you are safe from all the risks of gambling.

True, all casinos whether online or offline are equally risky and the point is that all betting will never be free from the name of risk with a little chance of winning, but for the problem of how much risk will be suffered by gamblers it really depends on how they approach their gambling activities, I don't care whether it's online or offline casinos but certainly if you are involved in any bet and you gamble excessively then I am sure you will lose a considerable amount, But as long as you can accept all the losses by having a very good responsibility then maybe it won't be a problem for you, because what usually becomes a problem is when gamblers cannot accept defeat and that's when they will experience big problems because gambling is based on emotions to chase the money that has been lost. Yes that's right, casinos are not at fault at all because they only provide gambling activities and in no way tell someone to overdo it, as I said above that if the amount you lose is very large then it's your own fault for not being able to discipline and control yourself.
1255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 06, 2024, 12:04:48 PM
A gambling expert brought i and some friends a guaranteed predicted game and asked us to stake a a high amount so that we winning could be huge and so we can give him a percentage of the money at winning.

I don't believe there could be a 100% guaranteed game but yet my friends who are eager to make profits in the gambling accepted to play the gamed as instructed and at the end of it, they all loosed the game and at then, the rest of us were happy because we didn't play the game else we would had loosed as others.

I want to ask, do you believe in experts gambling predictions?
Nope, I don't want to rely on others because I don't want to blame them in the end, in case fate doesn't favor their predictions. I better follow my own instincts so that if I make a wrong decision, I don't have to look for someone to blame.  When it comes to gambling, there's no guarantee and we can't really know if we'll win or not so it's better to just follow what's in your mind instead of relying on other people.
This is the funny part here. We blame someone for our loss but if we are winning we are like praising them thinking they are our lucky charm. Relying on others is only for the weak and lazy. I'm sure you don't want to be called like that? But, maybe there are people who don't give a f*ck. Anyway, we should learn to stand on our own no matter what.

Following our own predictions and then we lose, can still make us rage sometimes and we still can blame. It may not be someone who gave us a tip but it was the the casino owner this time, their staffs, etc. But, most especially our selves because we are the ones who are making a decision here.

Right, what you said is exactly right friend, like riding on the luck of others but behind that if they lose then they will blame the person, honestly I don't understand but what is certain is that I would say that people like that are those who are unable to accept the risks involved in gambling,. Simply put, they want to win but don't want to lose, which is strange but they are losers. I don't think it's just for those who are lazy, but what is certain is that they don't have a correct understanding of gambling and one of the proofs we have mentioned above is that they are unable to accept the fact if they lose so they dare to rely on others.

For those who have a correct understanding of gambling I think they will not look for other alternatives such as relying on others because of course gambling is nothing more than a game of brobability that there is no certainty and guarantee of anything and all the final results depend on how lucky you are at that time, so of course in my opinion it is better to do it yourself because maybe you have good luck.
1256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The is always on gambling, never the individual. on: January 05, 2024, 09:43:52 PM
Yes what the OP said is true and maybe I would also blame the person more than the gambling, because casinos created gambling just for leisure activities and not for something that should be done seriously, fun should be the main focus if you want to engage in gambling, understanding the basic concept of gambling about winning and losing will at least keep you a little awake from the wrong point of view and out of control actions. People say that gambling almost ruined their lives when in fact there are quite a few people out there (gamblers) who are doing just fine despite their involvement in gambling.

It is very clear that the main problem and cause is because they are unable to control their gambling activities, do not understand that gambling is a game of probability that has no certainty and guarantees that are only suggested to fill empty time when you are off work for example. And I'm sure the person the OP is referring to is one of those who is nothing but a victim of addiction due to having the wrong approach, so the point is if you want to gamble then first understand what gambling is, what the chances of winning are and how bad the risks are in gambling, if you don't want to lose money then it's better not to get involved.
1257  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: why do people always play gambling even if they always lose? on: January 05, 2024, 08:49:08 PM
Besides that, in another place, Many young people around to me still play slot gambling even don't have a job and always lose. I wonder where they get the money for deposits? and why they repeat that?. I don't know what the reason reason that doesn't bother them, they should have given up, and changed the game that makes them profitable. if I always lose in the game, I will change the type of game, example If I always lose on a slot, I will change the type of game like sports betting until my capital is back and try the luck again to the slot.
That's what I often encounter in our place, where many people are addicted to slot gambling but they still deposit even though they don't have a job, but they only work odd jobs and are not permanent workers so they get only to play slots for instant benefits even though it is very unlikely unless they are lucky.

If one game always loses and change to another game like you say sports betting? Not all like sports that I know around here, they just want to play instant and also instant winnings so will not think of sports betting because the lag is too long to see the results.

I think it's not just in your place, because in my area it's also the same where now more and more young people are involved in this type of gambling, I don't know what the cause is but in my opinion one of the reasons may be because this type of gambling is very easy to access, just by using a gadget connected to the internet network then you can get involved in gambling with the amount of money you bring, besides that the way to access is also very easy, it doesn't take long for new gamblers to be able to gamble, they can very quickly adapt and start the game. So ordinary people will be very easy to get involved and do not need to have any skills, simply put slots like showing easy winnings but in fact it is difficult, in my experience usually new people will be won first and then the casino will drain their wallet slowly.

My main concern is that those like you mentioned who are unemployed and do not have any work but are involved in this gambling, I can slightly conclude that it seems that circumstances are the reason for their arrival, gambling to get a win with the small amount they bring, but the casino will not allow it and when defeat dominates what they will do is take loans or even commit criminal acts such as stealing, this is what is worried about.

True, sports betting only applies to people who love sports like soccer etc, but most people always want something instant and slots are gambling that does not demand anything from you except money for capital.
1258  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The shorter the time you spend the better on: January 05, 2024, 08:28:13 PM
Quite agree with your submission, this is actually one of the reasons why I always prefer betting on sports anytime I have a low bankroll, over playing slot or casino games.

Slot or casino games are not games to be played wit a small bankroll, for like you said, the gambler must have ended up with an empty bankroll before he or she gets an opportunity to win some good multipliers or free/bonus spins which could help or assist the player to winning a handsome amount of money.

For me, and in general though, I still believe winning in slot games isnt much about how much time a gambler spends playing, but it's more about how much lucky the gambler is, but then, it still makes more sense to play slot games with good enough bankroll than with a tiny one.
Slot gambling does not rely on game analysis and you will not be able to measure your luck with slot gambling if you are gambling with a low bankroll. You need to know that the chance of getting lucky in slot gambling is very low and there is no guarantee that luck can cover previous gambling losses.

I agree with your opinion that an effective step to reduce gambling time is to change slot gambling to a sports betting scheme and you will avoid gambling addiction because you only gamble when your favorite team is playing or other matches but you will be sure that the team has high odds for win the match.

This type of gambling is very much different from other types, especially sports betting where you can use the skills and knowledge you have to make victory closer, like combining skill with luck, and on the other hand lately I see people more involved in this type of slot gambling than others, I don't know the cause but certainly maybe because everything in this type of gambling can be played easily even if you are a new gambler, especially in terms of adaptation to one of the games along with several other features such as services, deposits and withdrawals. I agree with your idea that it is very difficult to get a win on slot games, as you said that casinos make the percentage of wins much smaller than losses and as proof of this is the addiction rate is getting higher and the average gambler is involved in this type of gambling.

This type of gambling is really purely  about luck, but on the other hand casinos can always make gamblers come back by giving occasional wins when gamblers are desperate and taking back the gamblers' money slowly and without the gamblers themselves realizing it, and besides that what I know if I'm not mistaken is that in slot gambling there is an opportunity to get maximum winnings where only by putting the amount of $1 for example  then you will have the opportunity to get $1000. You'll be able to't just take a look at a few of the most popular slots on the market, but you'll be able to do that with the help of a few of the most popular slots on the market.
1259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How often do you win? on: January 05, 2024, 08:08:17 PM
It’s your money, you should be the one deciding where to place the bet with those money. Why betting on other people’s recommendation? Moreover gambling isn’t sure money. It’s completely depends on luck. Hence if also someone post about their bet, then it doesn’t mean it will give you win only. Hence its better to try your own luck by doing your own risk. Calculate the risk and outcomes properly and then place the bets.

It seems like they just saw a good victory that was achieved by that person so they intend to follow the direction of the recommendations they get, I think it doesn't matter as long as you are able to take responsibility for whatever will happen, always the most important point that every gambler must remember and have is to be a responsible gambler. If you have to bet with other people's recommendations, it means that there should be absolutely no regret at the end of the session if the result loses, because if not then obviously there is a high probability that you will act out of control to pursue defeat or blame the person who recommended.

On the other hand everyone  has their own luck and maybe the difference is that everyone has a different time to get lucky to win and also has a different amount of winnings if they are lucky, so it's all up to you if you believe in your own luck then please do it your way but if  otherwise then please follow other people's recommendations, like I said, the most important thing is that you can take responsibility for whatever will happen to your money.
1260  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit gamble! Easy or Hard? Let's talk. on: January 05, 2024, 07:01:26 PM
Very often people despite knowing that what they do implies a massive risk still decide to do it since they cannot possibly picture themselves falling victims of those risks, so they begin to gamble thinking that even if they know that casinos have to make money somehow, they believe that money will come from other gamblers and not from them, and while at the beginning a few of them could get away with it as they got lucky, the more they gamble the closer their results should align with the probabilities and they will begin to lose money.

One of the reasons why they still do it even though it has been proven that the final result always loses, it is because of the hope that they still apply to a victory. And another reason is that they always assume that "it looks like this time I will be one of the lucky ones out of 10 people playing" that's always what's on their mind so they keep trying, and when reality slaps them again with results that don't match expectations then they will think like that again to do the next session.

We must understand that in gambling the percentage of winning is much smaller than the risk of losing, the casino has arranged everything, and one of the reasons why people often say that gambling is a game of probability is because the casino's goal is to make profits from losing gamblers while on the other hand they set up all the systems in it so of course it is very natural that defeat dominates over victory which will only happen occasionally, I think most of the gamblers do not know this fact so they put their hopes and act excessively.
On the time that you would really be having that kind of mindset then pretty sure you would really be able to make yourself not to be able to stop gambling completely as long you do have those kind of intents in mind on which this would really be keeping pushing you to play further more because you are really that trying out to thrive on hitting that thing on which it would really be that understandable that there would really be those moments on which you would really be that having those feeling on quitting but on the time that you would be thinking about recovery then this is where those emotions would be starting on kicking in for you to play once again. It is really just that a matter of perception and discipline towards gambling activity on which on the time that you wont really be that sensible into your actions
then this is where mistakes do usually happen.

Of course, if someone already has or carries the wrong mindset in gambling especially taking the chances of winning too seriously then obviously they will continue to pursue that victory, defeat is not the end of the world because they will not give up, the victory of others becomes an image that will make them feel motivated to be more enthusiastic in pursuing victory, people who are already addicted will never stop or it is very unlikely for them to stop before they lose all their money or valuable assets, and of course just because of the wrong point of view on gambling can make someone act out of control such as robbing to get money to gamble, and when they already feel various pressures then it is usually not uncommon for them to end up with stress or depression or even to suicide.

The fact is that it will not be that easy to stop and get out of the addiction zone, it is difficult to reach consciousness when you are still focused on winning which is basically no certainty and guarantee at all to get it, chasing victory and recovering the state there is a scenario that they will pass before entering the final phase between really wanting to correct mistakes or experiencing mental disorders.
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