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2501  Economy / Speculation / Re: Anyone else think "long term" hodlers are idiots? on: December 28, 2019, 12:32:54 AM
Price when this thread was started - around $2500.

Price now - 3x higher or so despite a couple of years of beary fun.

Spare a thought for folks like OP who probably had 10,000,000,000x leverage and thought they were a goddamn genius until that pesky 65 cent move took every last penny.

I'll look forward to popping back when it falls from six figures back to five. Am sure I'll be utterly bereft. Until then - twat.

2502  Other / Meta / What effect would this forum vanishing have on your life? on: December 28, 2019, 12:16:04 AM
Now I don't mean feeling generally sad, I'm sure everyone would, I'm interested to hear how entwined this forum is in your life and activities.

There must be more than a few people who run businesses through here, plenty sig away, many will be in groups or syndicates for mining, gambling etc.

There's also the fact that this joint is a huge point of reference too. If down the line someone questions the source of an alt or sig campaign funds that started here people can point to the thread where they signed up along with an address to prove they were present.

Would it cause you any proper difficulty or would you simply sigh and keep on trucking elsewhere unimpeded?




2503  Other / Meta / Re: What if Theymos added new Rank after Legendary? on: December 27, 2019, 11:40:42 AM
Adding new rank after Legendary will cause to add one more rank in few months/years, as users will achieve it sooner or later, and we will start discussion once again.

I would advice to add badges or achievements. "First one to receive 5000 merit", "First one to have XXXX activity" and something like that. Only one can obtain it and it will be fair.

The only reason this discussion exists is because of the merit system and the mismatch between those who ground their way to legendary status and those who effortlessly spammed their way to it. I would like to see a rank that allows the worthwhile users to clearly out themselves as wonderful.




2504  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2019, 11:25:46 PM
No one ??  Undecided

I'm willing to recreate it if you send me a costume.
2505  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2019, 11:03:08 PM
Aside from that, I'm looking to cash out some coin. I'd like to use a card to pay for stuff, I can also do with amazon gift cards. Can you recommend reliable services with reasonable fees ? I'm not looking for the most secretive service although that's always good, I'm not going to spend a lot, a few hundreds euros a month at most.

Yes, I need euros.

I use giftoff.com for Amazon cards but that will depend on what country you're in. They seem to do it for most EU Amazons but not the UK any more which is a pisser. Bitrefill charges a premium on them. Giftoff don't.

For cards you've got Wirex or Coinbase. I don't really trust Wirex so Coinbase will do. Both have high fees at about 2-2.5% though.
2506  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2019, 10:57:22 PM
What is a "lucrative trade deal" exactly ? What will the UK sell in much greater numbers after Brexit than now ? Will it really make sense to buy US food instead of EU food ?

I accept that so far Brexit hasn't been catastrophic, now let's wait till it really happens (end of 2020 is the current deadline, I'm not convinced it will stay that).

Brexit hasn't happened in any capacity at all.

It's true that a surprisingly small amount of UK trade is with America. But America is no one's friend and they won't think twice about raping us and our current politicians will encourage them to do so. The closer we are with America the harder EU trade will be. Last time I looked Europe's a teensy bit closer and shares similar values, or we used to.
2507  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2019, 10:43:28 PM
I'll take the well researched findings of a respected entity over the ill informed opinions of a man who lives in a bus stop, thank you.

My bus stop is a carefully informed choice. You'll be in one next year. Mark my words.

Pretty much nothing has been settled about leaving yet. I don't see how anyone can declare anything.

It'll probably be fine in the end. It might have been considerably more fine remaining with the status quo. I'll be living in Svalbard by then anyway.
2508  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin Really Hit $1 Million? Demirors Warns Halving May Have Zero Impact on: December 26, 2019, 10:21:09 PM
Don't you guys have women where you're from?

What is womens?


and bitcoins are incredibly difficult to borrow because of their extreme scarcity. Smiley

that leads me to wonder whether physically settled derivative markets (like bakkt) will actually have enough volume and liquidity to dominate spot market pricing, like we see in the gold market and other commodity markets. and cash settled markets don't matter at all---they are essentially CFD traders making side bets about the spot market.

I've read somewhere that either a total of 16 BTC have left Bakkt or you can't withdraw it at all. Anything could be going in there and I wonder if the people using it care about that.
2509  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2019, 10:06:08 PM
"Boris Johnson’s post-Brexit ‘powerhouse economy’ to flourish for TEN YEARS – study finds"

Erm, you have to actually leave the EU first, conclude some actual trade deals and then you just might have a clue as to whether an entire nation has committed suicide or not.

If it were anyone other than a bunch of one catchphrase fuckwits in charge the chances might be better but anyone with any actual sense wants nothing to do with it.

One of them was talking up Northern Ireland's prospects after they backtracked on everything they claimed and it turns out there might be a border in the sea after all. They were saying NI will do great because it'll have frictionless trade with the EU.

That sounds like a fucking great deal. Maybe the rest of the UK would do jolly well with something like that too?
2510  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: $2 Billion Lost in Mt. Gox Bitcoin Hack Can Be Recovered, Lawyer Claims on: December 26, 2019, 07:10:05 PM
Alexander Vinik is involved in this exchange and this makes him leave. Where there is a lot of money, there is a lot of hype. What is the matter, there is a person, he himself received these funds and has the full right to dispose of them in further actions.

Learn English and try again please.
2511  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin Really Hit $1 Million? Demirors Warns Halving May Have Zero Impact on: December 26, 2019, 04:33:27 PM
The one thing she's missing is that Bitcoin is an end product in itself and one with purpose for real people in day to day life. I can't buy my monthly octopus porn fix or flee Syria with my wealth intact with an option.

Almost all other commodities are an inaccessible abstraction at the time their derivatives trade - soybean oil, copper, palm oil, orange juice, rapeseed. You have these back end markets and then it winds up in your phone or emerging from your urethra. There's nothing in between. Of course their values are decided by end user demand and usage but they'd be much weirder markets if normaltons started meddling directly in them for their own needs.

Most Wall St types seem to have a vast blind spot about this.
 
2512  Bitcoin / Press / [2019-12-26] Binance Blockade of Wasabi Wallet Could Point to a Crypto Crack-Up on: December 26, 2019, 04:09:12 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/binance-blockade-of-wasabi-wallet-could-point-to-a-crypto-crack-up

I've often wondered whether clearly mixed coins would be considered 'hot' and in this case at least it seems they do.

Do you think they'll be heading towards an unworkable dead end with this or it's the start of something others will try to emulate?
2513  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Best way to use Binance anonymously? on: December 26, 2019, 04:02:41 PM
So using any of these VPNs will be safe (Windscribe or Private Internet Access)?
No need to purchase a Dedicated VPN?

Both of them are dedicated VPNs.

They'll be safe while you're using them. The problem comes if you forget to turn them on, or you use a service with it that you normally don't. Coinbase in particular enjoy freaking out if you change location.

You'll have to be quite disciplined. I presume there's a way to configure them to start and log in as soon as you turn on your machine but that might screw with your day to day usage. Sometimes you want geographical accuracy.
2514  Other / Meta / Re: What if Theymos added new Rank after Legendary? on: December 26, 2019, 02:44:15 PM
If theymos will demote those legendary ranks who haven't earned the required merits for their current rank then there will be a huge commotion here in forum. Lots of shitposers wearing signature will complained.

That would be fucking excellent. They've had two years to prove they're worth anything. They totally failed.

All the same ranks may as well stay but campaign managers should switch entirely to merit. If that airdropped stuff is all gone the shit legendaries won't have any use for their worthlessly obtained rank.
2515  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: So Richard Heart is a Bitcoin ponzi scammer too? on: December 26, 2019, 02:32:15 PM
I used to have a LOT of respect for the guy he did help a lot of people understand bitcoin and blockchain shame he's fallen down this route.

That was probably the plan all along. I'll bet he's kicking himself for not going full penis in 2017. Maybe that's why he started crying when the market took a monster shit. He could've made billions rather than a few mil.
2516  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, Spouses and Divorce on: December 26, 2019, 02:15:57 PM
his wife had heard about Bitcoin in the mainstream media and the price rise and was pressuring him to cash it all out immediately or she would leave him.

If it had been mine before she arrived I'd tell her to go fuck herself. If it were 'our' money that would different. Even then someone like that would've told you the same when it hit one dollar. And after that they'd spend what little time left you had together berating you for giving in.

It would also be a completely different deal if we were under significant financial strain. Not addressing that if you have the means is selfish and stupid. If things are bobbing along just fine then it stays put.

And when you get your divorce Bitcoin is worth something so you're going to have to give whatever the court decides away. You can try to hide it. That might bite you extremely hard in the botty.

2517  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: I learned about a cold wallet called SafePal.Please help! How about this wallet? on: December 26, 2019, 12:10:23 PM
When it comes to hardware wallets track record and established competence is far more important to me than who's endorsing it.

We can point to years of use with Trezor and Ledger. I don't like the way Ledger operate so would favour Trezor.

Safepal might be wonderful. I'd rather let other people prove it to me over several years.
2518  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2019, 02:35:08 AM
How about a holiday park in Blackpool next year?

Amateur hour.

Brean Pontins is where I'm headed - https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g666384-d664583-r734218527-Pontins_Brean_Sands_Holiday_Park-Burnham_On_Sea_Somerset_England.html
2519  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 26, 2019, 01:30:32 AM
Even after pimping up - or vandalising in your own words - the place can't beat some of your earlier buen retiro locations.

Hey, it's the season of goodwill to all whatevers so I deserve a bit of luxury.

I have some truly heartbreaking holiday destinations lined up for next year. You'll be the first to know.
2520  Economy / Economics / Re: Greeks face heavy fines if they don't spend 30% of their income electronically on: December 25, 2019, 07:57:57 PM
And this is why those kind of laws are useless

And this is why we're going to end up with governmentcoins and they will go all out for cashlessness. When there is no other way of paying or being paid you have no other choice but to comply with whatever they impose on you.
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