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2601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Osama bin Laden, George W Bush and Hitler: The biggest villains in history on: May 26, 2015, 04:01:07 PM
Teressa did a lot for the lepers, but she was motivated by her desire to seek new converts to Christianity.

Did she fuck. 'Mother' Theresa was a delusional psychopath who believed that suffering was a way to get closer to her God, so she made sure everybody she was supposed to be caring for suffered. She refused medicines and spunked millions of dollars of the money she was routinely sent from people who had been lied to about her, on more fucking Nunneries because, you know, the world needs more delusional women who think they are married to a fictional omnipotent deity.

2602  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xscrypt.com - Premier Scrypt Cloud Mining Contracts on: May 26, 2015, 03:44:09 PM
Yes sure we have more than 10 MHS. we have 162 units of 300MHS each.


Great, so, to start with, point it at a public pool to prove you have that much hashpower.



Hello, sure no. We not will inform any details. Its is our anonymity.  You can call us as you want. If you to join you are welcome, if not, no problem, we will still mining and get earnings.

Best Regards

You could easily demonstrate you have that much hashpower without exposing your identity.

What possible justification do you think you have for refusing? If you can do so without anybody knowing who or where you are, why do you think it is acceptable for you to refuse to show any proof whatsoever?
2603  Other / Meta / Re: theymos is a government agent | do not use this forum it is honeypot on: May 26, 2015, 03:40:31 PM
:facepalm:

We are all involved in a technology which, being decentralised, can offer a future free of government interference.

In the meantime, however, ANY centralised service you use on the internet could expose your personal information to nefarious types, either black-hat hackers or government agents.

How about you just behave yourself as far as you are able in the meantime and assume that anything you do online is being watched.

Because, otherwise, you are declaring the sky to be falling here at BCT, while ignoring the fact that every other facet of the WWW is equally prone to exposing your personal data.

2604  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xscrypt.com - Premier Scrypt Cloud Mining Contracts on: May 26, 2015, 03:23:01 PM
Yes sure we have more than 10 MHS. we have 162 units of 300MHS each.


Great, so, to start with, point it at a public pool to prove you have that much hashpower.



2605  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: May 26, 2015, 03:13:35 PM
People here will understand what is an investment and its risk.

Stop trying to paint this 'investment' as being equal in risk to any other type of financial instrument.

A scheme pretending to be a legitimate cloud mining operation, all the while being nothing more than fractional mining/ponzi is a fraudulent and criminal enterprise.

It is not a 'gamble' or even a 'risky investment' because it is fraudulently representing itself as a legitimate business when there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest it is anything other than a criminal scam.

Just because some people might escape with a profit it does not excuse the continued promotion of this fraudulent operation. Most people will lose their invested funds when the scheme eventually collapses. Which it will once time and math catches up with numbers and the operators are forced to 'exit' the fraud.

I suspect, however, that a number of Ponzi operations in this industry are run by the same people. Especially considering that so many of those who sign up for Ponzi schemes end up receiving promotional emails for other Ponzi schemes. I mean, 'Cloud Mining' operations.


2606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 02:17:20 PM

I'm glad you are having fun. After all, your reasoning doesn't make any sense. Of course if it did, you wouldn't be an atheist.

Your yes-or-no question is not answerable because there isn't any fallacious assertion,

Again with the dishonest fundie routine.

I said that we atheists were willing to pretend that your desperately clinging to a narrow dictionary definition could be ignored and that, in return, I don't think it is unreasonable for me to ask you to deal with a simple thought experiment.

Unfortunately the dishonesty is strong in you.

You keep attempting to ignore the premise of the thought experiment by introducing your own world-view when the whole point is that both atheist and fundamentalist Christian were being asked to suspend existing perspectives so that the thought-experiment question could be answered honestly.

So:
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Q: In that you are unable to present a cogent argument which would justify the AI accepting the existence of your 'God', is the rejection of your fallacious assertion reasonable grounds to continue accusing the AI's atheistic world-view as being religious in nature?
2607  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: May 26, 2015, 01:59:57 PM
ah that makes sense.  so admin doesn't sell anything on the site anymore and he clearly hasn't created any alias accounts to sell more hashrate into the market.  It's not like its possible right?  I mean GAWminers did it but that is because they build their exchange right into the mining platform.

Oh there absolutely would not have been any ulterior motive to spark a panic in the 'market' over the electricity being 'cut off', because that totally happened, right? To all those hundreds of Scrypt ASICs he's got running down there in, where is it again, ah yes, Brazil.

Because all of that is, like, totally true . . . because sock-puppets say that 'Admin' is a nice guy and wouldn't lie to them.

2608  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 01:56:52 PM
Why do use such harsh language with me? .

What, "you dishonest fundie"? Which part of that is harsh when it is completely correct?

In answer to your points and question, would the AI recognize that it was built by someone, or some group of people?

That question is irrelevant and the only reason you are asking it is because you are being a dishonest fundamentalist Christian, again.

See? I can use that phrase quite often with you because your debating tactics are so dishonest and fallacious.

Answer the question that was posed:

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Q: In that you are unable to present a cogent argument which would justify the AI accepting the existence of your 'God', is the rejection of your fallacious assertion reasonable grounds to continue accusing the AI's atheistic world-view as being religious in nature?
2609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xscrypt.com - Premier Scrypt Cloud Mining Contracts on: May 26, 2015, 06:56:26 AM
my user id : 5380
i hope it's not cloud mining ponzi scheme

How could it not be?

No manufacturer makes Scrypt ASICs which ROI so it would be insane for anybody other than an ASIC manufacturer themselves to run a genuine Scrypt cloud mining op.
2610  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Xscrypt.com - Premier Scrypt Cloud Mining Contracts on: May 26, 2015, 06:40:24 AM
for now we will just resell at maximum 35000MHS. .  .we can not inform local, phones, pictures of our miners

P. . . P. . . P . . .P . . Ponzi!!!!!11!!!!1!!elebenty!!1!1! Cheesy

Fine, then point that 35GH of scrypt at a public pool and prove you have it.




2611  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 26, 2015, 06:21:26 AM
the dictionary definition

Tell you what, you dishonest fundie, seeing as all you have in your locker is to keep screeching about the 'dictionary definition' of the word 'atheist' and be particularly narrow-minded in which dictionary definition you are clinging to in order to desperately pretend you have a reasoned counter-argument, let's humour you a little and pretend, *real hard*, that the word 'atheist' actually does mean what you want it to mean and, therefore, us atheists cannot challenge your world-view.

Let us occupy this bizarre little perspective of yours, for a thought experiment, ok?

1.We create an artificial intelligence which is capable of utilising multiple sensors to observe and measure the reality it exists in, namely, The Universe.

2. None of its input warrants it concluding your 'God' exists.

3. The lack of its belief in your God is derived solely because there is no non-fallacious argument that would justify a belief in the existence of your ominpotent, omniscient, super-being deity.


Q: In that you are unable to present a cogent argument which would justify the AI accepting the existence of your 'God', is the rejection of your fallacious assertion reasonable grounds to continue accusing the AI's atheistic world-view as being religious in nature?

2612  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: May 25, 2015, 03:05:53 PM
quite happy with KNC stuff , got 2 miners running at 3.5 ~ 3.9th yes it is not standard stuff so thats were most people failed here , and got frustrated.
Mining requires a lot of fine  tuning undervolting  to save power , getting better cooling replacing the beagle board with a more recent one , getting 2x1300 watt 80 gold PSU'S getting special connectors to not overheat the cables , its complex but when running and tuned you don't need to worry it does work.
But I am  afraid itś  to complex for most people here.

Fuck's sake, you are such a dick!

Nobody here is complaining about KnC because of the hardware needing 'fine tuning', as most people who bought from them are, contrary to your ignorant arrogance, more than capable of understanding how to set up ASIC miners.

They are complaining about KnC having lied through their fucking teeth about when they would have units ready and to what performance level.

Simply repeating how you consider everybody other than you to be too stupid and, therefore, prone to being 'frustrated' at KnC, is merely showing that you are either incredibly dim about the facts of the matter or you are actually ignoring the facts so you can keep apologia-shilling for KnC.

Either way, fuck off with your condescending attitude. The only person you are impressing with it is yourself.



2613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Payout on: May 21, 2015, 09:14:17 AM
.like all these people that believe that 9-11 was done by 16 guyz with boxcutters

Actually, contrary to flaky conspiracy theories riddled with anecdote and wild supposition, there is no justifiable reason to suppose that it wasn't a team of fanatical Islamic fundamentalists. Security was not like it is now and there was no reason to expect the sort of hijacking that took place where the attackers had no intention of surviving it, albeit the growing prevalence of Islamic suicide-bombers preceding this event should naturally have suggested such a thing would eventually transpire. They sliced up a few passengers in first-class and threatened they would blow up the plane if anybody didn't do what they were told. ALL hijackings prior to this would then land the plane somewhere and negotiate, which is what the passengers expected and so they did as they were told in the hope they would be released. Only when the downed plane passengers were told of the intention of the hijackers to crash into a target did they realise they had to try and fight back and, by then, it was too late.

Just because it was so shocking an attack does not require one to suspend all common-sense and reason to explain how it happened.

/offtopic

That this thread is frequently populated by sock-puppet accounts who solely post to attack those who question scrypt.cc's legitimacy, should also be considered reasonable proof that it is a fraudulent operation.
2614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: May 21, 2015, 08:16:12 AM
Kind of funny ...

scrypt.cc website opened Feb 2, 2014 and has been paying since then.   cryptodevil created his account on Jan 21, 2104.

2104? Yes I am from the future. So I created my account on this forum on Jan 21st 2014 and scrypt.cc website opened on Feb 2nd 2014 and you think that is 'kind of funny'?

Funny how?  

While scrypt.cc doesn't provide a lot of the standard proof,

Try none, none of the standard proof.

they have had many opportunities to run away with 1000's of BTC since Feb 2, 2014.

Ah, yes, still floating the, "Hey they can't be a scam because they have been operating for so long and could have run away with their loot before now" turd?

It didn't flush the first time that stinker was laid because it is a fallacious argument. Stop trying to stick a bow on it and pretend it is the gift of reason.



2615  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 21, 2015, 07:35:14 AM
You should just put him on your ignore list.

Sage advice. BADecker's dishonesty when it comes to his grossly fallacious theist argument is even worse than Black Jaguar, a loon who believes himself to be part of some inter-dimensional pan-galactic space federation. As in, actually believes it to be true. Not kidding.

When your theism prompts you to be so blatantly dishonest to the degree you are a worse human being than a guy who actually is living in a certifiably delusional state, you're not exactly showing your faith to be the pious and holy belief system you claim it to be.



2616  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: May 21, 2015, 07:23:04 AM
I think it's pretty safe to say anyone who invests in Bitcoin or any crypto currency in any way is not your average 'mom n pop' investor and is aware of the risk.

No it is not safe to assume this because even if they were hardened cryptocurrency traders, the fact an organisation is pretending to be legitimate in order to attract 'investors', does not diminish the nature of the fraud simply because a trader might be aware of a number of service failures/scams within the industry.

Do you have some BTC on an exchange? We've seen mt gox and mintpal go down, how is trading on an exchange any different in your view of scrypt cc or any other cloud mining operation?

Because trading platform exchanges are not advertising themselves as 'cloud mining' operations, they are trading platform exchanges for traders to buy and sell different currencies TO EACH OTHER in order to try and make a profit. That an exchange might collapse for one reason or another does not make it equivalent to an intention-to-defraud unless it is, like scrypt.cc, an intentionally fraudulent operation being shilled as a 'legitimate' service. In any event, the draw to attract 'investors' into buying these 'KHS' is due to the claimed payout which might be 'earned' from the mining operation, it is the sole reason for people to trade on scrypt.cc and without these supposed mining payouts there would be no enticement to buy/sell.

Why aren't you policing every single other thread on bct where an exchange is involved?
What does that have to do with scrypt.cc being asserted to be a fraudulent operation? Would my points be any more valid if I was posting on multiple other threads and calling them out for their shady setup? Go back far enough into my post history and you'll see I have done exactly that with a number of pump and dump coins and phishing scams, not that it relates in any way to the validity of what I am posting here, for that requires only my assertions about scrypt.cc be objectively reasoned, which they are.

With regards to proof, would you openly advertise you have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of ASIC equipment in a datacentre? "Hey world, here's where I earn millions using expensive hardware. The address is 123 I'm-n-idiot st, Brazil. Come and get me" Let's also realise Brazil probably isn't the safest country in the world to run such an operation openly too.

Care to show me proof this operation is based in Brazil? Take a look around you, this is the internet.

Besides which, nobody needs to know his address, he could take anonymous video of the racks of miners (which manufacturer are they anyway, because nobody makes a scrypt miner that ROI's) and prove ownership by having the freshly mined blocks sent to a known address. He could easily offer ways to give ongoing realtime proof of the scrypt hash-power he claims is backing up these 'KHS' things being traded on his platform, all without ever disclosing his location.

You've made your position perfectly clear, if people want to invest let them. If you choose not to that's great for the rest of us, price per khash stays lower and my returns increase.

Yeah, I'm not going to stop making my position clear, repeatedly. Most seasoned users of this forum are more than aware of the nature of fraudulent operations using sock-puppet accounts to keep trying to bury posts which expose their scam. So, no, I won't be leaving this thread anytime soon unless scrypt.cc 'Admin' does actually put in place a valid system to show proof-of-hash for this mythical 'KHS' product he is selling.



2617  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: May 21, 2015, 05:39:49 AM
And my opinin towards the power failure is, that in any company it could happen. Especially in companies that consume that much energy. And the really fast movement of the asics from DC2 to DC4 confused me a bit, but i think as i said in this thread already, they got containers where they have their asics in and they moved them on trucks and simply had to put power and internet to the containers. So this fast movement was possible then.

But this whole, 'they have them in shipping containers' thing isn't even proven, it is simply supposition for how they could possibly have moved so many units so quickly. You might as well have said they had an army of midgets at their disposal to help out, if you're going to just be making stuff up.

Of course the electricity 'could' have been cut due to legal issues, why would a fraudulent operation assert something that didn't sound plausible when they can simply manipulate the market by referencing a power-outage at their main DC? It works as both a way to nicely panic the trading market while reinforcing to the 'believers' that they must have the ASIC hardware and the multiple DC's, right? RIGHT? Cos', you know, they are talking about them having had a power outage, so, ummmm, totally *not* a fractional mining/ponzi fraud, right? Right?

Remember, for all the people who are trying to float the, "Hey it's just a gamble" turd of a 'justification', it is only a gamble if the participants are aware of the realities of wager.

An organisation claiming to be something it is not, in order to attract 'investors', is committing a criminal act. It is not investment, it is fraud.





2618  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY btc.com Bitcoinist. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 20, 2015, 07:54:39 PM
oh looky look who is involved in this lend shit show. our great friend Mutant who was a main participant in the attack on bloggers/journalists when Ganza released the hit list. all around douchecanoe-junior™

https://mineraltalk.org/forum/crypto-currencies/bitcoin/443-btclend-investors-group
https://archive.is/4twdR


The fuck?
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. As investors will will set minimum set of conditions that must be meet before we invest on any loan.

Sounds legit.
2619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: May 20, 2015, 03:29:32 PM
The best proof is going down there and seeing with your own eyes.
All else can be faked.

Yeah, because that has ever happened. Oh, hang on, 'Admin' said it has happened so, you know, no conflict of interest, totally not likely to lie about something like that, right? Right?

2620  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Scrypt.CC | Scrypt Cloud Mining on: May 20, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
If you analyze the hot wallet you will see this same pattern, they never keep large amounts in the hot wallet. I'm not even sure why they let it build up to $1 Million USD before sending them off to cold wallets this time.

Definitely no problem here, I'm glad they don't keep all the coins in one wallet.

LMAO! Yet another no-mark account shilling for scrypt.cc - You go girl!!!!11!!!!1!

This address of scrypt.cc 1HWqsgnSd12Gv8SpoUMi1Cj8hp79BTSpW7 was created the day after they first announced back in Feb 2014. One of the other fanboyz in this thread sent his BTC directly to it and there is an awful lot of small inputs going in which are likely to be other scrypt.cc suckers, I mean, customers. That would suggest it isn't a cold wallet at all.

In fact it looks far more likely to simply be the main suckers account where money goes in and a small percentage goes out to cover for the fractional withdraws, with plenty of siphoning off of larger amounts in the meantime to coin mixing services.

Sure, totally normal for a business to do that sort of thing, right? Right?

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