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2661  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 26, 2014, 11:26:26 PM
Hey y'all,

So, I am a little unclear on this, but if I possess a 60 GH/s Butterfly Labs ASIC, would I be able to set that up to run and mine a SHA-256 algorithm cryptography based currency like Unobtanium?

I was initially under the impression that an ASIC would only mine Bitcoin, but now there are other SHA-256 based coins such as Scotcoin and Unobtanium that I am interested in testing out as the profitability of Bitcoin mining on metered electric has reached a questionable status.

I'm sorry if this question has already been asked. I am relatively new to running a mining operation. I have a lot more experience as a technical analyst and day trader. I do have some computer programming and hacking experience, so what I really need are probably just some pointers to the right hotlinks with directions to follow or the simple answer "no that's not possible."

I have read that the ASICs will crunch any data, it doesn't matter what you throw at them. Is this just a matter of downloading cgminer and copying and pasting a .conf file to mine in a different pool?

Some assistance would be grand!

Thanks, in advance, for your time.

Edit: I'm doing some research for myself now to see if this is possible.

Double Edit: I guess I'm a little too late to join the party.

-mbiebel872
http://twitter.com/mbiebel872



don't forget that guy Wink
I am not a miner but i think you can still mine Unobtanium on pools with ascis and you'll get some out of it. Just try it out. Pools are in the OP. Maybe someone else can help you a bit more than i can

With that BFL 60ghs rig, he can mine any Sha256 coin like Bitcoin, UNO, PetroDollars.... just go to Coinwarz.com and check the "SHa256" box.... he can mine any of those coins. 
Want to try solo-mining a sha256 shitcoin just for the experience and fun of feeling "rich?" Try Unicoin or Snowcoin.
2662  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Atomic-Trade on: June 26, 2014, 10:08:07 PM
I just learned that Atomic-Trade.com is closing their UNO market tomorrow.

I'm sad to hear about it. Its a nice U.S.-based exchange, but the thin volume forced Atomic-Trade to close it. I can't say I blame them. No trading = no market.

I wish Atomic-Trade well.  If you have Un there, you'll want to go get it right away.

We still have plenty of great markets for Uno.  But it's a good reminder...
If you like a Uno exchange, be sure to trade there. Use 'em or lose 'em!
2663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Get your Coinex Wallet Addresses Now! on: June 26, 2014, 08:57:21 PM
We've tracked down the Coinex wallet address for UNO. It's shown that the stolen UNO has been dumped on the markets since at least May.

Lets try to find the CoinEx wallet address for the other coins.

First, go to coinex.pw and copy all of your wallet addresses for all coins.

Next, if you ever withdrew any coins from Coinex, check your wallet for the SENDING address. This would be the Coinex wallet.  It looks like they used a single wallet for each coin.

Help us track down the CoinEx wallet address for any coin you can, and post it here. It may come in handy one day soon.
2664  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 26, 2014, 08:40:47 PM
I'm not familiar with coinex or what happened so I had to look up some background info and found a couple of pieces covering the so-called coinex hack from March 2014:

http://www.coindesk.com/coinex-pw-hacked-will-cover-losses

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/coinex-pw-hacked-all-coins-stolen/2014/03/19

Is coinex still operating??


Unfortunatelly yes. I am not entirely up to date either, but last i checked the website was still up and we already had the case of a new community member buying coins there and being unable to withdraw them.
Apparently you can still register and deposit coins, even trade. But you cannot withdraw your coins.

This is such a massive scam, I wonder why nobody seems to be able to do anything about it. Somebody has to keep the service and server running, who pays the bills? They need to be shut down.

No you BTC deposit won't work also. I know this from my stupidity. My multipool.us have CoinEX as auto payout wallet for BTC. All BTC moved as soon as it reaches blockchain and NONE showed up on the exchange's balance. Stupid me! Sad

For all your detective out there if you want to check to blockchain, here's my CoinEX's payout address 14VLNQcr9Bi7QVAvLGys8d5mD5kCdt5efb ***DO NOT SEND ANY COINS THERE, THIS IS NOT MINE

Wow the transactions for your Coinex btc address lead to some really big wallets. I followed it to here...
https://blockchain.info/address/16R14EH4v8A9GPXkAAP8gcMFBA8oxA8nbY

He's moving coins today. They've been split and moved many times already today.  I think V500 freaked him out. Smiley
2665  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 26, 2014, 06:37:03 PM
I too can confirm receiving mining dividends from CoinEx via this: uLpiP5hE8fPF4iEvhix4HCKTTWfWADZTb5 address. I was mining on CoinEx shortly after they added and my wallet is full of transactions with this as the source address.

Interesting do-ings afoot here...sorry for being gone for the last week, love this conversation and our team's detective work!

Hi Blazr2, welcome back!

Well, it beats working. Smiley

I just made a big edit to that post. Turns out I control the uLuz address in one of my wallet.dat's.   I had received the uno in my wallet and then I sent it on to Cryptsy. I corrected for that. Anyway, still proves the same thing.
2666  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Proof Coinex owned the huge uLpiP- address. on: June 26, 2014, 04:41:57 PM
As if we needed any further proof, I can confirm with 100% certainty that the uLpiP- address belonged to Coinex. It seems to have held most or all of the UNO on Coinex until the "hack."  

I mined at CoinEx and the withdrawals I received came from the uLpiP address we have been tracking.

I understand I am giving up a little privacy here, but so be it.

My withdrawal from Coinex went from:
uLpiP5hE8fPF4iEvhix4HCKTTWfWADZTb5 (uLpiP)

to my wallet:
uLuZVXdcdKK3mrPbCfm7JoN9ByZyo76kwr    

Here is the transaction connecting uLpiP (Coinex) to uLuZ :
http://cryptexplorer.com/tx/e56deda7f0f4b8ac49dc2ebad72eb20da7d63e59de5cc48e4b637a616ffba089#o1

Here is the transaction in my wallet:


And here it is in my Coinex.pw account:


With Voluntarist500's work connecting  uLpiP to the huge wallet that has been liquidating, I think there's little doubt that the uno being dumped on the market is the stolen Uno from Coinex.  Read V500's post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg7517867#msg7517867

If you missed the original post that began this discussion, read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg7515755#msg7515755

[edited to correct an error I made. I realized later I control uLuZ, removed the reference to my Cryptsy address.]
2667  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Coinex on: June 26, 2014, 11:55:57 AM

Is coinex still operating??



Coinex.pw is still online but it's been abandoned for months. No support. No withdrawals. It's a honeypot -- coins go in but they never come out.  

The CoinEx chatbox is still up; it's filled all day long with messages like these that I saw today:


Sadly Coinex was a big pool miner and exchange for UNO.

If anyone has uno there still, or lost uno, you can still go to coinex.pw and get your deposit addresses for btc and uno; it may be helpful later. The site could go down at any moment.

I've contacted Cloudflare about taking down the site's dns, but they don't care.

What I hope comes out of all this is a stronger UNO, with long term community members buying up these coins cheap.  If this is what's truly going on (stolen coins being dumped), I want you guys and myself to have them. I can't buy 'em all myself. Smiley

Anyone just joining this discussion go back and read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg7515755#msg7515755
2668  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 26, 2014, 02:58:06 AM
That is kind-of an odd fact.  Unobtanium is probably better, now, than it's ever been, but the price doesn't reflect this at all.  If we ignore the woolong nonsense, we were at 0.02, before.  ...But remember we are comparing UNO's exchange vs Bitcoin.  Bitcoin is stronger, too, and the BTC adoption and network is super-strong, now, clearly undervalued in a HUGE way.  Well, I guess that prices UNO from 0.01-0.02 right now, but good luck, without some of the things we've spoken about to get the sustained price higher.
I hear you. It will help when 10k+ uno and 75k fast-mined uno are no longer being dumped on the markets.

We're a community -- we can each make a difference.
Btw, go vote for UNO on BetByCoin so we have another entertainment outlet for UNO.  http://www.betbycoin.com/coinvotes/

2669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 25, 2014, 11:28:23 PM
is there a way we can get the complete transaction-history of uLpiP5hE8fPF4iEvhix4HCKTTWfWADZTb5 ? Explorers say 'too much to display'. Would be interesting to make analysis on that adress.

Yeah, that stopped me from going deeper (that and I was supposed to be working).
2670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 25, 2014, 11:25:04 PM
Thanks, V500. It's just a theory I thought it was interesting. I had heard from others in the community confidentially that they were concerned about the stolen CoinEx UNO.  A few suspected steady dumping was occurring, though there was no hard evidence available. It's all circumstantial at this stage, but maybe someone smarter with better tools will suss it out more. The sudden disappearance of the #1 wallet, and the appearance of a new #1 right after the CoinEx hack was announced was a surprise to me.
2671  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Is this the UNO stolen from CoinEx? on: June 25, 2014, 09:02:44 PM
Ok, I need to get a life. I just spent the last hour cutting and pasting text from the Coinia richlist as it downloaded the UNO block chain. It seemed just too unique of an opportunity to pass up.

Believe it or not, when I started the "what do you see going on," discussion earlier today,  I had wanted to talk about Coinex and the possibility that a thief may be dumping stolen coins on the market, depressing the price. But I had no idea I would get this opportunity with the Richlist today.  After I had posted here, I got an email from Agran out of the blue, saying he had restored the old richlist. I checked it out and saw it was showing the richlist from January.

As agran's richlist downloaded the UNO block chain I copied text snapshots of the top wallets between January and June 2014.

Here's what I was able to get:

http://pastebin.com/jnQXkRSV

Perhaps you can help with some analysis. But here are a few things I quickly noticed along the way.

In January the top wallet (uLpiP5hE8fPF4iEvhix4HCKTTWfWADZTb5, I will call it  uLpiP-) had 19k uno, and #3 wallet (udYSEGN-) had about 4.75k uno.
[Update: We now have proof that uLpiP belonged to Coinex:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527500.msg7530998#msg7530998 ]


I tried to capture a bunch of richlist snapshots in February, around the time of the Wolong pump but I haven't noticed anything particularly interesting; it looks like top wallet around that time was fairly active and had been selling off a bit. Wolong probably converted BTC to UNO, and then UNO back to BTC on the exchange, never transferring his UNO off the exchange, so it won't appear in the UNO block chain.

The Coinex hack was announced on Twitter on March 16.



Here is what the UNO "Richlist" looked like the day that CoinEx alleged it had problems. The #1 wallet, uPip has been connected by me and others to CoinEx through our withdrawals. It's the main Coinex wallet for UNO.



On March 17, a new wallet appeared at #3 (uffGuBZtoJTP8f4nAQKRSCrxKWECzugXn3 , which I'll call uffGuBZ-) with 4k uno that was conclusively withdrawn from the #1 ulPip Coinex wallet.


Then on March 18, the #1 wallet, uLpiP- completely disappeared from the list, and uffGuBZ jumped to the #1 spot with 9,313 uno.



uffGuBZ has been slowly liquidating since May, when UNO had a lot of good news and the price rightly rose upwards of .006.  Remember, in March this wallet was at 9,313 uno.  By May 8th it had 6500 uno.  May 17, 6350. May 20, 5900.  May 25, 4650.   May 28, 4000 (drops to #2 position).   May 31, 3700.   June 1, 2850 (#6).  June 7, 2250 (#12).  

Here's my best guess:
We know that on the day CoinEx announced its problems, there was 165,137.50146107 uno, and that CoinEx's ULpiP wallet had 8,695.43815399 Uno or 5.26% of total supply at that time.

I suspect a link between the stolen Coinex UNO and uffGuBz-.  [edit: Voluntarist500 found the connection between uLpiP and uffGuBZ ] The thief may have been taking advantage of the higher prices in May to liquidate their holdings. Obviously, selling 9k uno (especially when combined with the accelerated mining of UNO because of the block timing) has been putting a LOT of downward pressure on Unobtanium.

uffGuBz now has just 300 uno as I write this  ( https://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/address.dws?uffGuBZtoJTP8f4nAQKRSCrxKWECzugXn3.htm )
Since exchange trading happens off the blockchain, you wouldn't expect the wallet transfers to match what's happening in the market price exactly.   I suspect coins were moved from this big wallet to exchange accounts in smaller increments so as not to attract a lot of attention.

I think this latest sell off has been a coordinated effort that has gone across virtually all of UNO's markets.  I had my buy orders fill virtually on the same day on Mintpal, Cryptsy, Coins-e, and Allcrypt. I also saw a dump occurred on Coinbroker.io around the same time.

Although the uffGuBz wallet is nearly empty, we don't know how many stolen uno still remain in his exchange balance.
We also don't know if there are other smaller wallets that escaped my attention.
We don't even know if any of this is true.

But the pieces and the timing seem to fit.

I can see how this would have a very depressing effect on the UNO market -- despite all the good news, the active community, new services, talented new devs, good publicity... the price goes down and the psychological effect is brutal.

But if we understand that this could be the effect two powerful influences:  stolen coins being dumped, and rapid mining of uno, what we really have here is a *fantastic* opportunity.

First, the dumping will stop eventually, because the presumed-thief wants out. He has no reason to hang around, and wants a more liquid market. So go ahead and post those buy orders for .0015 -- he'll probably fill them.  I see many of you are already expecting more dumping and are stacking buy orders between .001 and .002 (hell, I am too); they're on the books, you can see them yourself.  And why not -- as long term UNO supporters and owners, you may as well buy back the stolen UNO cheap and join the "1% owners" club. In the short term, I think UNO could fall quite a bit further, until the thief is done. As someone who is in largely above .005, I'm not pleased about it in the short term, but long term I know I'm OK.  UNO is quite literally a steal at these prices.

Second, the mining is slowing. 0.9.5 is already producing longer block times. The 0.9.5 code has restored UNO to the original slower 3 minute block times and I am already seeing the effect of this in the block explorer, as spacing between blocks is increasing.  And Timewarp protection has stopped the accelerated mining and stealing from our core miners.

You understand what this all means, right?   Flooding UNO on the market is about to stop.  We're already to nearly 190,000 uno out of only 250k that will ever exist. Another reward halving will occur rather soon. The last 50k Uno will be mined at a tremendously low block reward. And the final 250-thousandth UNO won't be mined for nearly 300 years!  That means for all practical purposes, UNO is essentially mined out.

My guess (and feel 100% free to disagree with me) is that UNO today is a very, very unique opportunity in crypto. UNO is not POS -- you don't get free UNO just for owning some.  Unobtanaium is virtually mined out, and if Erundook at Coinex.pw hadn't been such a fuckup, the price of UNO would be much higher than it is right now.

My money is squarely bet on the success of UNO. Look where we were in March -- and look at the progress we've had since then. If uffGuBz had not liquidated nearly 10k uno in a short period, and so much uno hadn't been mined because of accelerated block times, (more than 75,000 uno has been mined just this year) I absolutely believe that the price of UNO would be .007 to .01, much closer to where it belongs.

That's what I'm seeing and thinking right now. My best guess. Would love to hear yours.

[made a few edits for clarity]
2672  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Rich list on: June 25, 2014, 07:18:58 PM
Check this out! The old rich list is back.
It's downloading the block chain. You can watch the the top wallets scroll by for prior dates. It's currently in April 2014. I'm trying to grab some of this as it goes along....

http://coinia.net/unobtanium/getbalance.php?top=20

Still think we should move ahead with the new richlist project/Explorer for reliability/backup.
2673  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / UNO Market on: June 25, 2014, 04:38:38 PM
I'd like to know how you are reading this Uno market?

I have an opinion, but would love to hear yours first. Is anyone is seeing what I am seeing?
2674  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Coinex question on: June 25, 2014, 02:57:48 AM
Wondering if anyone here had previously lost UNO from Coinex, in their first hack.

If so, can you pm me?  I have a question for you.
2675  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 25, 2014, 01:56:35 AM
i don't understand how Falling Knife can have 42 connections to the network but I still haven't gone over 8?

Simple. By compiled in default the wallet establishes at most 8 outbound connections.You are behind NAT. This means the pc on that you run the wallet has no public address so it can't accept incoming connections from internet without extra effort. You have two options:

1) set your router to forward incoming connections from WAN interface to your PC at port 65534;
2) try to run the wallet with -upnp option if the router supports UPNP and the wallet was built with UPNP support.


I am on a mac, btw.

Sorry, you said that was simple, but that doesn't sound simple to me.  can you put this in layman's terms for me?  Again, i'm sorry, but I'm more of an average user than a hardcore crypto guy.

What is NAT?
what does my router have to do with anything?

I just left my wallet on for a few days straight, and it gathered a lot of connections.
I rebooted today and now I'm back down to 23 connections.
2676  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 25, 2014, 12:50:38 AM
every time you mention 'wolong' on this thread the price drops. lol



2677  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Coinnext on: June 24, 2014, 06:05:38 PM
CoinNext has refunded all of my UNO that was trapped in another dimension there for a while.  (Balance didn't even show, as they decided to pull it after the original wallet problems.)

The even better news:  I guess we can deduce that they now have:

1.)  A working Linux UNO wallet
2.)  It's another client with the latest version, to help with the changeover!!!

Smiley

I received my UNO from them as well.

CoinNext is legit.

Sadly they told me they decided not to add UNO at this time.  That leaves us with 8 great exchanges to work with -- I think we'll survive.
2678  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [GER]GermanyCoin! Giving away the whole premine to everyone ! on: June 24, 2014, 05:25:24 PM
Does anyone have any addnodes for this?
I was going to see if I can move it along a little for Allcrypt, but zero connections.
2679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Coinnext on: June 24, 2014, 12:38:11 PM
Did anyone else here send UNO to Coinnext when they announced their Unobtanium market?
2680  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNO] Unobtanium Info & Discussion - Update Now to 0.9.5 wallet on: June 24, 2014, 12:37:14 PM
Another small update to the website is live. This one is for the traders among you.

You could already easily check price of UNO in BTC across multiple exchanges, but now:
* you can also see realtime prices for UNO in Dollar, NAUT and LTC! (powered by Cryptonator)
* This should make it easier for everybody who might want to aquire some nice deals on UNO in some of the more excotic trading pairs that are available.

If there are any additional currencies you'd like to see just let me know.

Enjoy!
Tips: uewrE9QWc54EXjCZehWDPkjqgsyRDpQmK8

That's very cool. Thanks for this!
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