let the OP carry on, let him spend his funds with each transaction deducting the fee.
slowly making the OP poorer and the miners richer..
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Altcoin discussion belongs in the altcoin discussion area.
I am not talking about alt coins, I think this should belong in bitcoin. If there are less addresses to track, there should be less blockcahin size. each block does NOT contain details of every address ever used... each block simply shows transactions. so if i do not use my address for a week it will not appear in a weeks worth of blocks. but if you are taking a 25 satoshi fee from me every time a block happens then my address would appear in every block. thus ADDING to the blocksize. secondly all i read your idea as, is a way to get peoples private keys. why would we need you to maintaine our addresses. that is kind of like a bank. which makes me wonder do you understand the whole point of decentralised. do you understand the whole point of bitcoin, its code, its ethos etc. thirdly, when the reward decreases every 4 years the value of each bitcoin becomes more valuable purely because miners will not want to sell their rewards for anything less then an amount that will cover their lifestyle and bills. (in theory) thus causing the bitcoin price rise to compensate amount of bitcoins on the market (supply&demand) so in 40 years 0.01btc would/could be worth alot. lastly worrying about mining profits is something that is not a problem for decades. so tell the idea to your grandkids, as its not something worth implementing now
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OMG, everyone stop using Bitcoin now.
time of posting pic coincides with the MTGOX drop for $160 to below $150 Edit ( meant as a joke, as some people take things a little too seriously sometimes.... if it wasn't obvious as a joke then please now relax that you now know it wasnt a serious market affecting event that will cost you dearly)
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your going to find this happening.
with so many high speed miners jumping on each day creating blocks in under 2 minutes, at some point the network needs to even this out to a 10 minute average per block. causing an extremely difficult block to crack just to get things back to normal.
the other part is that mining pools are getting greedy some of them wont accept a transaction without a fee, leaving some transactions in a queue.. so dont expect the 10 minute rule to apply in 98% of cases for your particular transactions.. its the rule of averages, over multiple blocks
I don't think what you're saying about difficulty is correct. The difficulty does not change with each block but changes every 2 weeks or so. Can someone confirm or deny this? i never said it retargets with every block...
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your going to find this happening.
with so many high speed miners jumping on each day creating blocks in under 2 minutes, at some point the network needs to even this out to a 10 minute average per block. causing an extremely difficult block to crack just to get things back to normal.
the other part is that mining pools are getting greedy some of them wont accept a transaction without a fee, leaving some transactions in a queue.. so dont expect the 10 minute rule to apply in 98% of cases for your particular transactions.. its the rule of averages, over multiple blocks
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This is not at all surprising. That's the stage we're at right now. In six months all of your neighbors will know what bitcoin is. In one year all of your neighbors will be using bitcoin. In five years none of your neighbors will be using fiat.
I appreciate your enthusiasm for BTC. You may not understand the rural area where I live and love. It took nine years for our state to legalize liquor by the drink after all of our adjacent states had it. One may hope for progress. Thanks for the offer to gamble. I don't do much gambling. I hope you are right in your estimated timetables. /Frank and wouldn't you have loved to have been the first and only supplier to offer liquor to your area, think of the potenial earnings you could make bringing an area something they could not get easily on their own. now the same goes for VISA/Mastercard would'nt you love to be the first payment processor to have introduced shops in your town to mastercard..... now put those thoughts towards bitcoin......
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your time stamp 02:50:24 PM my timestamp 02:21:57 AM i had to read the article and then quote a few passages, but i got there first lol
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my philospohy is this:
to pay for something with debit card Customers: requires bank account required to be of certain age required identity papers, to be passed onto the bank
Retailers: requires a merchant/business account. requires submitting company registration details requires a card processing providor and fee's
now
to pay with bitcoin Customers: download App find someone nearby on localbitcoins.com or mine them - no paperwork needed
Retailers: download App find someone on localbitcoins.com or sign upto bitpay/bips
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first of all: retailers do not accept bitcoin because of you believe that the world actually needs a semi-anonymous decentralized currency system. retailers acept bitcoin because there is less red tape then setting up a credit card system, less fee's then a credit card system, less headaches and delays. did you know that when doing credit cards merchants do not receive the funds within a couple days, credit card companies wait until the end of the month and deduct 'fee's and then send to merchants.. bitcoin doesnt do this. secondly a random new currency would go around and people would barter out a set price of value until everyone got together and found a average and collectively agreed value to use.. with bitcoin this is already done, so there is no letting the grocer pick a price for his apples and then have customers argue and barter as much over the value.. bitcoin already has a known value point to use..... the value from the main exchanges. now the bit about wages,suppliers and the wifes fiat. merchants do not pay staff wages with customers credit card debt, suppliers, wifes shoes etc all the same.. they pay in fiat.. which is the money that the credit card receives AFTER sending their customers the bill. the customers pay the creditcard company FIAT and that FIAT is passed onto the the merchants.. bitcoin is the credit card companies credit card companies convert debt into FIAT bitpay and bips convert bitcoin into fiat the only difference is bitpay and bips do it faster, less fee's, less headache and less.. well less everything compared to a credit card company. imagine it this way of why bitcoin is great for customers and businesses. take starbuck as a future example of the way to pay (because they dont yet) Credit card: customer queues up, waits a few minutes, requests a latte, gets told the price and swipes their card. Bitcoin: customer sits at their table laughing at the queue of customers, scans a QR code from the coffe menu, presses send on their app.
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to manfred |}ruid is Dustin trammell i actually quoted you an post that DustinTrammell donated to the bitcoin foundation as the username |}ruid and also the quote from the username of dustin Trammell.. so please read. satoshi nakamoto is not druid and druid is not satoshi nakamoto but please try again secondly H.D moore is I)ruid not I}ruid ... check your 'blast from the past link http://druid.caughq.org/ it clearly shows a bracket ) not code-end } so here goes again I BRACKET ruid =H.D Moore - no link to bitcoin I CODE END ruid = Dustin Trammell - helped satoshi, GavinA and others satoshi is a separate entity
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nice try but satoshi is not Druid.. keep trying though Correct, I am not Satoshi. I did however work with him via email on the first few versions of the client, testing and reporting bugs and suggesting additional features.
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http://www.newstatesman.com/sci-tech/2013/10/bitcoin-may-be-let-loose-now-silk-road-has-been-shut-downNow that Silk Road has closed without any discernible damage to Bitcoin's value, maybe we can accept it's here to stay. You can't kill Bitcoin. It will not die. The Silk Road shutdown is the second event to challenge its stability and it’s come through with barely a scratch. And, despite the libertarian beliefs of many of its advocates, in part that’s due to Bitcoin going legit in the eyes of the law. lets hope other media outlets have this mindset
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it was a good meetup, and a pleasure meeting you guys, some good idea's passed around. looking forward to what the future brings us all
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the real answer to the question the OP asks is this.
at any one time there are probably only about 200k bitcoins on any one market which if every one of those coins sat at the sell order price of $140 it would cost $28MILLION to buy them.. but they're not all sat at a single order price, they are scattered up the sell wal at ever increasing prices.
at the moment clarkmoody shows there are 35k bitcoins on the MTGOX exchange with a sell point from £149 to $17,933,000,000 each
so ill leave you to imagine the costs to buy just 35kbitcoin in one swoop..
now thats just 35k bitcoins.. not the 11.8MILLION bitcoins in existance..
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mining 3LTC then trading it in early 2012 when litecoin was fluctuating rapidly between 1c and 2c
dang i missed those days of rapid price movements, i turned 3LTC into 152LTC (about 0.18BTC) in 3 days then soon after the price of LTC went from 0.002 to 0.005 and i was feeling top of the world.. and had my first BTC
.. but now the price has stabilised with maybe a 1% movement if timed right per day.... dang i miss the volitility
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its pretty impressive that you found that. i also didn't know that dpr is thought to be username altoid. I guess in theory he could have just used a random address in the thread but unlikely. now if we could only figure out the private key...
the SR arrest warrent of DPR mentions that altoid is DPR.. and thats how he was caught.. altoids email address was Ross Ulbricht@gmail
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These experts... If they are so good why are they working for someone else?
I think that either you go in long term or do the obvious bids. I wish I had invested in oíl in 2008, didn't have the money or the knowledge of how to though. It should have been pretty clear that in long run it would go back up from there.
oil... thats only doubled in price in 5 years.. thats 20% a year... .. but bitcoin.. well if i had some in 2009 and cashed out today. but anyways i bought up in 2012 and im happy, definetly happier then a 5 year wait on oil
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what you also find is that people that want to buy in while cheap, wont tell many people about it, thus keeping prices down. they will also spread fud to sway people away, again keeping prices down..
eventually once they have eating their lot and cant get anymore, they will change over and say its great everyone should buy.. to cause a ramp on the price.
its standard banking and stock practice.. whatever the 'advisors' say... do the opposite. usually advisors short term advice pays off but the bigger picture is the opposite.
EG this commodity is tanking sell sell sell..
this in real world proper advice means. dont sell at a loss, instead buy to average out the costs, to get more commodotys cheaper and wait for the flash crash to correct to be in profit.
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the real problem I see is more businesses need to start accepting bitcoin and the user experience to use bitcoin needs to be simpler for the average person.
i have just less then 24 hours ago had words with BIPS and hopefully they will come up with this solution And this my dear sir, is a very good idea.
1. You could make it so you visit a website with all the coffee variants, simply clicking on what you want, and you will be presented with the payment information, from where you can pay using whatever Bitcoin app. 2. You could scan the menu card, which would have QR codes for every coffee variants, and be directed directly to the payment. 3. Only imagination. But wow what a roller coaster we are about to embark on.
i was more thinking of a quickpay app bips could make. my idea is to just stay sat at the table, select starbucks from bips app, scan the coffee QR code from the menu and then press order.. no staff needed, no chirps needed, no unique addresses needed for the merchant to distinguish between transactions. no confirms needed as funds are pre-confirmed.. that is how things should be done.. customers: registration - get given deposit address to PRE-PAY a small pocket money amount (this is to preconfirm payment and create a balance/credit) using it - app shows a list of merchants to pay that use the quickpay gateway. customer selects the merchant. customer scans a product barcode or qr code that holds info like the price and product name API call from the app goes to bipsquickpay server and changes the balances/credit in favour of the merchant and sends the order via API to the merchant. no waiting for confirms as the funds are technically already in bips hands. and as it is only 2 API calls and a balanace/credit database alteration it should take only a second or 2 to complete I will give it a shot.
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