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28441  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Help me give away my money! on: May 27, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
i will use my vote to negatively impact one member who is trying to deceive people into handing him Bitcoin for projects that will never materialise.

so i wish to make my vote count as a negative vote against:
finshaggy

Edit: placing him currently at -1 votes, should he create an entry/get a vote in future that would push him back to 0.

i hope that other people that cant think of a deserving person will atleast name a known begger/leecher and use the vote to negatively impact such leechers.

thus the true winner will become a true and deserving winner. and not someone that has brainwashed a group of people into their cause to persuade them into voting for their bottomless pit

goodluck to the true winner, and i hope the prize gets used in a meaningful way
28442  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin Town: Let's Make the Future Come to us on: May 27, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
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You're kind of right about the construction workers, but you're wrong about everything else.
Me and Fin are currently looking at 1,000 acres-5,000 acres of land. He just said the minimum amount is 600 acres. We've also thought about community buildings, and other things. We've currently have been talking via P.M about things like that. 2 Million dollars will be going to land. We've also been planning a school together, ect. We haven't been neglecting the ideas of planning on this thread at all. Please take time to read some of the thread, before calling it out. (I wish you take no offense to this. But please read the thread.)
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Nope he's wrong about construction workers too. I already mentioned that that would be part of public work (so people with less money can earn food and money), and then anyone with money can hire the other members of the community. And we will be contracting a company to take on any projects that any citizen might want to pay an outside company to come in and do Smiley

i have read it, i have watched the videos and seen his facebook, including his message history back till april.

the uptopian society he envisioned was that no one will be doing menial labour roles where it was mentioned in his videos that robots will do tasks such as cleaning and machine work...

building a house is not what a business man or a coder have in mind, nor is it the role of a doctor or vet who wish to look after the town. so this is why i highlighted it and will say it once again..

out of the 200 utopian residents that are creative minds. and the essential "services" residents such as lawyers, police, judges, teachers, doctors vets, firemen, mechanics, electricians.. where are the construction workers going to live...

like i said you need more then 200 residents to make a functional town.

and acs a utopian town is just that utopia.. if you want something already in the works that already has houses, shops, city halls, etc and all that is left over is to lobby government to free it from the laws that finshaggy thinks can be ignored just by training a few town sherrifs to be ignorant of certain state crimes..

then look at the new hampshire project. finshaggy just want your money for his commune to expand his weed growing farm. all the signs are there, he has slipped up many many times. he does not care about infrastructure or basic essentials.. he prefers to sell you into the idea of just needing to pick out the wall colours of the house you want. and not tell you that he has no clue about permits and utility company planning requests.
28443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Town: Restaurant Franchise on: May 27, 2013, 08:28:18 PM
i was on about the average length of laptop charging cable being 2 metres. so wherever the electric outlet/socket is placed. there will always be excess knotted up on tables of rolled up on the floor.

this is why most established cyber cafe's have their own cubicles with their own PCS built into the cubicles and they rent out time to use it. as oppose to the utopian dream of sofa's and softchairs where people can bring in their own computers and charge their laptops freely wherever they decide to sit/stand to within the cafe.

but i dont even know why im bothering to point out the fundimental planning parts of a cybercafe..

finshaggy just wants peoples money and leg it back to his commune to build his weed farm.
28444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Town: Restaurant Franchise on: May 27, 2013, 07:43:57 PM
guys ignore finchaggys brain farts.. it always starts off with one dream which warps into something completely different.

1. a restaurant ( definition: offing selection of meat and veg on a plate, using knife and fork, served with a glass of wine or other drink from a drinks menu, served by waiters)

2. fast food (definition: burgers, fries, salad bar, and the "only bottle of red" on the table is ketchup)

3. internet cafe (definition: main purpose is the using of computing and internet, where food /drink is not the main theme)

now then with all of those electric cables charging laptops sprawled across the floor i truly hope he realises why carrying around half a gallon cup of soft drink or a bowl of salad is a health ans safety hazard. and reasons why mcdonalds dont offer such luxuries.

but no this guy has never seen a public liability insurance policy in his life.
28445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Town: Restaurant Franchise on: May 27, 2013, 07:15:28 PM
Lol.

Franky1 is wrong, I never asked for donation except for ONE place. The cancer fund. And that is in Devcoin, not bitcoin.
Everything else he says is just as uninformed as that.

And my mom didn't name me FinShaggy.

you asking for $10k upfront on your town project, the cancer fund, devcoin donations separate from your cancer fund (yes i seen your facebook)

also before even showig a blueprint and building permits you are already asking

Who's in?

also
If anyone would like a shout out on my channel, it only costs .01 Bitcoins at any time (before Dec 31 2014). If you want me to post one of your videos on my channel, where you say WHATEVER you want, it will cost .10 Bitcoins at any time (before Dec 31 2014) And if you want that video to actually be the featured video on my channel, that costs 1 Bitcoin at any time (before Dec 31 2014) Even if my channel gets up to 5,000,000 views before then, all this will stay the same price.

oh yea i forgot about the other plan that he is a experienced conference co-ordinator .. pfft.. and he wants to be the organiser of bitcoin 2014..  kind of weird thathis post only came to light after the expensive ticket price got mentioned.

plus his CharBucks alt coin...

and he writing a novel which he is asking for donations for...

its all in his history and thats just reading the first 10 pages from when he register only a month ago...

now finshaggy your plans are as transparent as thin air, the cancer charity fund is people paying you and you send them weed produce in return with promises that it cures cancer..

thats right guys he grows the stuff and will send you it.. check out his facebook its all there in black and white.. lol

he only has 0.7BTC to his name and is on a rampage of brain farts to get to 2000 posts so that his "name" seems reputable to beg for bitcoins and also to receive devcoins by having a high post number.

he just wants your coins to pay for his weed. he has no understanding or any actual ambition in him to actually fulfil any of his project brainfarts into a final design let alone breaking ground to actually start them.

many other people have already compared him to pirate @40 and atlas and many other people we have come across in the past.

he cannot answer the basic questions about infrastructure requirements and costs, and other basic qustions. so instead put people with genuine understanding on ignore.

as if that makes the truth disapear.
28446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Town: Restaurant Franchise on: May 27, 2013, 07:05:39 PM
The things that we plan to have on the menu so far are this:

Pancakes
Burgers (REAL ones, not like McDonalds)
Funnel Cake
French Fries
Carne Asada
Burritos (and every other variation of tortilla and contents)
Noodles
Sandwhiches
A Salad Bar
And anyone involved's "specialty"

any place that serves burgers and french fries is called a diner/fast food establishment
..
a restaurant is a place that involve eating with a knife and fork, a glass of wine and usually has meat and 2 veg on the plate.
the only thing close to veg would be at the salad bar..

seriously dude, every project you have lacks basic understanding and many mis-representations..

please stop brain farting.. take a step back and just say to yourself what one plan do you want t succeed. and start with the basics.

you are the kind of guy that before knowing the build costs and employment costs, and electric, gas and supplies cost. has already picked out the wall coloring, diners name and what countries you want to invade.

come back to reality
28447  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bitcoin Town: Let's Make the Future Come to us on: May 27, 2013, 06:53:50 PM
finshaggy seriously. stop brain farting your con idea's out onto the forums purely to get peoples bitcoin.

instead take 5 steps away from the computer and do some planning such as knowing the true costs of getting electricity cabling dug into the ground, permit requirements, legal costs of land ownerships, laws you still have to obide by. and stop trying to say the uptopian dream is just $10k upfront.

you have no clue about land value or what is needed to build a sustainable town. you have lackd answering the basic questions.

EG you say 200 residents being given 3 acres each = 600 acres. and you want these 200 residents to be creative entrepeuners.

then you totally ignore construction workers, police fire, vets, lawyers, judges, teachers, shop owners. mechanics, alcohol distillers and all the other manditory jobs that you say your uptopia will have.

so technically it will end up as just 20 creative people in your town...

then you dont acount for the community buildings such as the library/communityhall, the town square, court house emergency services buildings, roads, car parks and shops also requiring land.

making the residents who are promised 3 acres being squashed into half as much. or expanding the 600 acres into double/triple as much just to fit it all in.

please please please stop brainfarting your dreams of the final design and learn these words.
INFRASTRUCTURE
PLANNING
LAWS

do some research.

and if you want to do this town project then stop trying to sell your other brainfart projects of going on a world tour for a year paid with bitcoins.. because you only have 0.7btc to your name and a promise of devcoins next month.

admit to yourself and to the forum that these are brain farts of a stoner having a hallucinating dream of paradise but no skills talents or understanding of being a project leader for it to ever work.
28448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Town: Restaurant Franchise on: May 27, 2013, 06:38:04 PM
people of the forums.. this guy only has 0.7btc to his name and a supposed promise of devcoins next month.

he has 20 different projects that he is trying to suggest, and begs for money from people.

only one month ago he put in the newbie subject that he didnt know what mining was. but now suddenly has expert friends that will make an asic miner for him.

please review his lack of talents wisely and see him for his true light, a conning begger that has no agenda to finalise a project, but the only agenda to grab peoples bitcoin.

i would however give him small donations as he is a comedian with all of his brain fart idea's tempting people to invest. just a shame that he has no plans backing them up for them to even function. (no research beyond 2 hours of google searches to sound less naive)
28449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Avoiding Regulatory Traps in the P2P Economy on: May 27, 2013, 03:51:53 PM
best advice:

avoid regulatory traps by not avoiding regulation.


get a licence if you want to handle thousands of peoples fiat balances
28450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Trustless, physical crypto cash on: May 27, 2013, 02:05:33 PM
the owner of the mixer service, smartchip protocol/redeemer service/validity checker tool. doesnt sound very decentralised to me.

if there is more then half a dozen people that have to go to one place to do a certain task then that is centralisation.. if you mean dispursing out sourcecode and gadgets to un reltated parties to start their own service. then that is localised or distributed... but not decentralised
28451  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Not-For-Profit Bitcoin Raffle on: May 27, 2013, 01:57:02 PM
a raffle indicates prizes in the form of objects/products. if the prize is a total sum of the inputted bitcoin, this is considered a lottery.

that being said there is no such thing as non-profit these days. its just a term used for business owners to class their wage as a business cost, leave no funds in reserve and avoid business tax because of the lack of funds left over in the business bank account.

bitcoin is not taxable. so using the term non-profit is a moot point.

a better term to use is "100% of bets/ticket value is the prize"
28452  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: SEPA/Banking Forum? on: May 27, 2013, 01:48:31 PM
For a highly resilient/sufficiently paranoid exchange system, the bank transfer must be carried out between buyers and sellers, rather than service providers and buyers/sellers, too many activities on a single account(personal or business) and you will be suspected.

basically in a nutshell if you want to buy bitcoin for investment legally using bank wire transfers then use a exchange that has all of the licences for AML KYC. if your a SR user wanting no paper trail, just requiring 1-2 bitcoins. search localbitcoins.

if there were no shady fiat exchanges, and every exchange followed regulations there would be no problems.

banks are not after bitcoin. they are just after risk free movement of their beloved FIAT that cannot be linked to a criminal act. so they need to account for every penny's movement through the electronic networks of fiat.
28453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Transaction Time on: May 27, 2013, 01:40:04 PM
1F Y0U C4N UND3R574ND 7H1S M3554G3 7H3N Y0U 4R3 5M4R7 3N0U9H 70 R34L153 7H47 GR4MM4R 15 N07 4 L3G4L R3QU1R3M3N7 0N 4 F0RUM.

as long as the message gets across that is the main point. these forums are suppose to be a social form of communication not a legal written document that requires perfection. being a grammar nazi is not smart. its anti social.

i in business, write with the queens proper english, but when im on these forums i just write whatever is on my mind and get it on paper (forum post) as fast as i can.

i do business where i help people out financially and i have to admit when i see a real life business plan, i do check for spelling and grammar to see how much effort the client has put into the plan, to see how much he cares about the image he as a professional projects.

but when it comes to these forums i have given out investments to people with bad grammar, purely on the bases that their plan was sound enough.

this is my free time so being perfect does not mean anything especially when my real name is not franky1. its not harming my real life professional image.

i would say writing a business plan on here professionally with alot of thought, detail and time to prepare does earn you merit points. but certainly not a legal requirement.
28454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Transaction Time on: May 27, 2013, 05:48:06 AM
more laughs about bitcoin.

even with fee's they arnt guaranteed into thenext available block. and the fee's a majority of the time dont reach the miners.. but instead its the mining pool owner that keep the fee's, along with his few percent payout of each worker. and his own mining rigs eating out a few chances of miners getting more shares.

the sooner people realise there is more profit in trading (retail profit of selling products) compared to mining the better.

there is too much emphsise that the only profit in bitcoin is in mining, which is then crippling miners profitability, to then require larger fee's just to get transactions through...

in reality it should be that
50% of people are business men opening bitcoin shops to sell useful products and services.
10% of people playing the markets.
30% of people using bitcoin to buy things.*
10% miners.

then no fee's would be required as the 25btc would be more then enough reward for miners and every transaction will be processed ASAP.

but in reality it IS:(guessing based on the 'feel' of the community)
5% bitcoin businessmen
45% playing the market
49% mining
1% buying things*

*(obviously everyone would be buying stuff, but i narrowed it down as outsiders that have no intention to run businesses or mine)
28455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Island/City and More on: May 27, 2013, 05:33:35 AM
Why is it that when you get more than a few hippie liberals in a room together the conversation always turns into, "hey - let's make a commune."

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I've not heard talk of a commune from hippies ('my people' historically) since I was a kid in the early 70's.

Libertarians [and/or juveniles] OTOH...there must be 50 threads about that on this forum.  Would you, could you, one a boat?  Would you, could you, with a goat?


It does get a little tedious reading about all the variants of communes started on this forum. I even consider the 20mission type thing a commune of sorts. I remember all the communes that were started when I was young failing miserably shortly after startup. My friends and I talked about making a commune in the 70's but we were broke so we just sat around getting high, fucking each other and watching H.R. Pufnstuf.

all you need is a garden shed/outbuilding/den for parties and sexual freedom, and a small patch of dirt to grow a few carrots to eat when you get hungry. that is considered a successful commune.
28456  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Let's Start a town on: May 27, 2013, 05:24:14 AM
and then moving away from the digging and permit requirements for your phase one. (requiring electric from the grid)

lets talk about water... hmm water from natural sources hey??

new mexico has been designated as a known drought zone... as of february 2013.. so um.. i guess more digging and water pipes connecting a water supply from neighbouring states will be required first of all untill a few winters and autums have passed to fill up the underground micro reservoirs that each eco house has...

the utopian town is a good idea.. but you are envisioning the final design of 25 years without understanding the basic requirements of years 0-24 of building a town.

like i said over 10 posts ago. you have no clue about the infrastructure needed but i bet a dollar that you have already doodled a flag for your cult/commune.

i did hint about pets when mentioning the manditory jobs required in the town such as doctors, nurses, police, vets

and lastly a TV station so thats another building.. so are you going to add another 3 acres to the land requirement or you going to reduce each persons 3 acre per family promise, down to 2 acres to fit in all of these community buildings
28457  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Let's Start a town on: May 27, 2013, 05:07:20 AM

video 16 - biodiesel & solar panels
firstly on the national grid for electric and utility.. hmm ok that costa a few million of build and digging. then making biodeisel, hmm my comments of video 14 covered that.. then move onto solar.
this guy needs to take a step back from the PC and realy check out the prices of digging underground laying down electric cable attaching it to the national grid, safely, having all the regulations covered and permissions from the electric company.. or a cheaper option just buy a tonne of solar panels... and skip the first step...ill add more to the solar panel idea, i got a feeling more ineptness about requirements for basic utilities to run a town will appear .


We will already be on the grid, so it won't cost that much. I already asked you to read, so you are now on ignore.

I will stop ignoring you when you stop ignoring me. (meaning "stop asking or arguing things that have been answered or solved")

your already on the national grid?Huh oh wait the magic fairys build power lines into the land you bought ....Huh no.. the reality is: "firstly on the national grid for electric and utility.. hmm ok that cost a a few million of build and digging." and permits etc

then you want to drop the national grid or be less reliant on it and use biodiesel.. then finally move onto solar....

like i said why waste cash at phase one of requiring national grid, why not just go straight to solar!!! oh wait you have the fairys that pay the national grid for the electric cabling at the start so theres no permit costs or construction costs lol

you sir wil need more then 600 acres for 200 people to have a fully functional town. you will need atleast 6000 acres for 1000 people. based purely on your utopian dreams. just to get a basic functioning town
28458  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Let's Start a town on: May 27, 2013, 04:59:29 AM
and there he goes again.. another tangent.. first of all travelling the world, designing an asic, then a town. then an island. and now a restaurant that will go national...

such a shame he only has 1 bitcoin and is promised 20mill of dev coins next month to his name....

and back to his last post about distillery.. so he will use national grid electricity to heat up the distillery to make biodiesel to then put into generators to then power the generators for use around the town...

again look at the cost of product vs the profit of output
28459  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Let's Start a town on: May 27, 2013, 04:54:40 AM
lets dig into more failings.

video 13 - bitcoin casino.
having a bricks and mortar casino in the state of new mexico is the same licence requirements as people playing with cylindrical shaped pieces of plastic.

video 14 - distillery.
hmm should i just do a facepalm or ask him what fuel he will use to create the heat to warm the water to eventually make alcohol to then fuel the cars.....
ill give him a few minutes to work out the fuel consumption required vs fuel production  output for his 'eco' car fuel...

video 15 -earthships
walls made out of 1 part coke cans, beer bottle or car tyres, 1 part concrete.. which have no physical benefit to making a house more stable or warmer/colder etc..
plus using cokecans tyres and beer bottles is not as eco friendly as just using concrete. but hey as long as you put one recycled coke can into a wall you can then deem is eco friendly because its one less coke can in your refuge bins, even if in reality its not doing much else. save the world 1 coke can at a time. Cheesy then you think about reality
earthquake, or just the pressure of the weight of concrete and start looking at the cokecans and bottles imploding. creating gaps in the walls. nice winter breeze whistling through the walls.

video 16 - biodiesel & solar panels
firstly on the national grid for electric and utility.. hmm ok that costa a few million of build and digging. then making biodeisel, hmm my comments of video 14 covered that.. then move onto solar.
this guy needs to take a step back from the PC and realy check out the prices of digging underground laying down electric cable attaching it to the national grid, safely, having all the regulations covered and permissions from the electric company.. or a cheaper option just buy a tonne of solar panels... and skip the first step...ill add more to the solar panel idea, i got a feeling more ineptness about requirements for basic utilities to run a town will appear .

video 17 - mushrooms and land size
ill ignore mushrooms.. proposal 600 acres, 200 residents. wow.. 3 acres per person.. so thats their home and farm land. but now wheres the police station, school, hosptial courthouse, library distillery going to go.. guess you need more then 600 acres of land to also have room for non personal land. but community land. and some people may not want community roads and parking build on their land.. not to mention the solar farms needed just to get town street lighting and business premises running.. so its not just solar panels on peoples own houses its solar farms to run the community/business stuff too

video 18 - voting.
nice idea but in 15 years when people start having kids and the majority of the population are under 20. it just takes one of the elected parties to act childish, be a comedian, promise the kids sweets and teenagers beer. and some ignorant dumb guy wins the election.. F&*k it around election time ill hire barney the bear and have a beerfest party the night before elections.. voters will love me.. then ill show you what having no voting restrictions results in.

video 19 - drug use friendly
need i say more.. well lets wait for video 20

video 20 - creative residents
i mentioned this in comments between video 1-13 some where back. constructon crew, farmers, alcohol producers, police, fire, nurses, doctors, teachers, and now you want creative business people on top... hmm i think your gonna need more then 200 homes...... second half of the video

and now i see why this guy is making videos like mad and has over 1880 posts in under a month..bruno mars said it best but here goes... he wanna be a devcoin millionaire so freakin bad...........

video 21 - freedoms.
so all the kids wil vote for free sweets, free transformers toys, 5 christmases a year. and that becomes the law. teenagers will vote to relax the sex laws and alcohol laws so the horny 13yos can get drunk and laid.. just wait for the rape and alcohol poisoning to begin,
28460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I'm going on a Bitcoin World Tour on: May 27, 2013, 02:50:34 AM
im just waiting for the sudden request for donations.

so far this week finshaggy has asked for $10k per person to make a bitcoin town, which within 24 hours turns out he now wants a bitcoin island.

he also accepts money for a cancer charity. which in actual fact is a weed farm offering types of weed extract that can cure cancer

next is a world tour. followed by making asics..

wow
the even more funny part. just one month ago he didnt even know what mining was

My friend got a machine to start mining litecoins...

I'm just wondering what mining even is... What do you "do"?

with all of these projects trying to talk people into giving him money he has certainly managed to rake up 1800 posts in under a month..

oh i almost forgot.. he wanted to make a jersey shore type of TV show but based on people that know and use bitcoin..
i hope finshaggys project he proposes tomorrow is as a comedian.. because he has given many people many laughs. he might aswell get paid for one project he is good at.

Hey, at least he's not a nihilist. You gotta admit - Atlas was much worse.

well he does live in a commune and thinks that laws do't apply to him for him to do what he wants without knowing the implications.. his utopian town/island for instance. so although he isn't shouting "we are all in the matrix, nothing is real" he is close

In that regard, I see your point, but Atlas wasn't funny. This guy is a comedy shitstorm.


i agree, funny guy but i do feel sorry that he has been hammering his keyboard hard to type out 1880 messages in 1 month to appear as someone to be taken seriously and reputable.. but still as transparent as glass when it comes to seeing what his true intention for his 'projects' are,

maybe he is a atlas/pirate@40 love child... it would explain alot
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