Just how forked am I having sent like 12 hours ago with 10k sat fee and still unconfirmed?

IDK, I don't believe in those magic lines..

Breaks up or down?

I m a trader therefore I do care about price movements but only really to the extent that I can take advantage of them to acquire more BTC to HODL..

I am never concerned about trading to make more $ or cny or monero, eth, dash, etc... They are all just a vehicle to make more BTC..

Though I do believe BTC will eventually go up in price very high to $10k and beyond, I am mostly in the crypto game for its libertarian/anarchistic ideals of taking power away from banks and governments..

Edit.. But, I would like to add that I do think that a higher, much higher price, is instrumental to the widespread adoption of BTC because we need a bigger marketcap and more liquidity to stabilize price and cut down the volatility..

Volatility hampers real world use and I believe that a larger market cap is what we need to become less volitile..

$100 swings right now are devastating volatility but if BTC were $10k then $100 swings would be much more negligible..

I think it sucks major balls because I WD from huobi last night in the craziness and it is still unconfirmed..

like 10 hours.. And if it goes back to huobi then what? will they know it's mine? lol

I concur..

Same here but on huobi nothing would ever fill..

I would still be sitting very happy with my 8380 sell and 7200 buyback but noooo...

But.. I lost 0 zero BTCs so whatever.. Just didn't gain any..

I could care less what the current fiat price is tbh, I just want more BTCs even at $100..

I bought some physicals for cold storage and was like "crap, I might loose on the premium, better margin long an order as a hedge" so I did and won that pretty good..

Now tht the price is back down a bit I may be able to flip a physical for more than I paid for it when everyone was panic selling them..

I might get to have my cake and eat it too..

Ha, yes, us evil leveraging traders be damned..

huobi froze and wouldn't let me trade any of that..
It's a conspiracy..

Why?
Wouldn't they also rather have btc or usd?

It's real money alright..
I know because I'm taking it..

coinbase playing with $20 higher than bfx leading all western prices..

coinbase $10 over bfx now..

just hit $19 over!!! WTF

Idk about vol but price yeah and steady for a while now..

1163.3 vs 1159.9 now...

I've been waiting a long time for the american exchanges to catch up a bit to buy my margin back on huobi but it looks like china is going to take off and leave the west behind like it just doesn't care..

bitstamp is looking obsolete.. Another btc-e

8.8k cny just hapened..

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/coinbase/btcusd

coinbase taking off on its own now..

Touche' ..
I did make a thread and was pretty excited when we broke ATH marketcap.. Maybe we should be looking at ATH markeycap adjusted for inflation?

Would be about $14.5 billion
We've smoked it by $4B

Percantage deifference scailing makes a bigger number..
Official chineese exchange rate questionable..
Fiat friction, can't get CNY to USD to arb..
China may be leading the pump?

Or American people assume China is leading the pump because they are boggled by the spread and therefore buy and the chineese think "oh crap the americans are buying" and then they buy and the americans think "oh crap the chineese are buying more" and buy and on and on to a million bucks?

 

Well, if you account for the inflation of USD since the gox ATH then the new real ATH should be 1286 IMO..

I think we need to reevaluate volume so we can accurately understand the power of these exchanges..

Something like.. Total bought ratio to total sold and the volume of that difference/gap would be actual money coming into and out of the market on that exchange vs total buy/sell vol..

With no fees you can buy and sell your own coins all day long but you can't really buy more than you sold or sell more than you bought unless your actually putting a steak out there, or area good trader and wind up with more of everythng..