It's not only not better, it's worse. You can purchase $10 worth of a more stable, widely accepted bitcoin, or $10 worth of a more volatile, less accepted copy-cat of bitcoin.
Yes it could gain traction because of hype and ignorance, but I'm hoping its traction can be checked if people become more well-informed about the fact that altcoins are 99.9% identical to bitcoin and offer nothing new and much less.
Litecoins aren't going anywhere and you are now repeating the same arguments because you've got nothing left to cling to but false hope. When they hit one dollar, you are going to see an epic bull rush. Mark my words
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Bitcoin is better than the dollar for many current uses (international remittance, micropayments, etc). Bitcoin near-clones are not better than bitcoin for any use, and to the extent that bitcoin users accept them as viable blockchains, they undermine the whole idea of bitcoin (and any thing like it) having a supply limit of 21 million coins.
Litecoin doesn't have to be 'better' to have value. You're fighting a losing battle with this argument because Litecoin has simply gained too much traction now. Too many people have decided to give it value and it's trending upwards massively in google searches.
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Classic LiteCoin reasoning there then. Tell me what a mountain is worth if no-one wants to buy it? Now tell me what a LiteCoin is worth if no-one wants to buy it? Here is a hint, it's zero.
You're peddling the same anti-Litecoin arguments that people would use against Bitcoin when it was in it's infancy at 50 cents. The free markets will decide Litecoin's value.
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You might find it easier to simply buy Bitcoins and then buy the Litecoins with Bitcoins from btc-e.com
Try localbitcoins.com. They are great for small amounts and you can even do escrow.
I can tell you buying bitcoins in the UK is nothing but simple. Therefore unless your lucky, prices here for bitcoins are 15% more or higher than GBP spot price, which kind of pisses me off. btw noob question, what is escrow? I have heard it tons of times and i know its a type of encryption, but how does it apply to buying/selling btc? I can see some on the front page now 7% higher than the spot price. Shop around. You'll always pay more than the mtgox rate on there though.
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Yeah this affects Bitcoin too.
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Litecoin will be updated to 0.8.1 soon. Like wtogami said, I had originally planned to stay 1 major version behind Bitcoin so that we don't get bit by a bad release. But as it turned out, the 0.8 hard fork just made it clear that there was an issue with old releases that could cause a hard fork even without 0.8. So wtogami and pooler will be helping me with rebasing the Litecoin code to 0.8.1. I do want to wait til May 15 to make sure that Bitcoin is able to handle the potential hard fork. Since the Litecoin community is much smaller, we should have even less of a problem. But it's better to be safe.
Nice one.
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Litecoin has gained too much traction to disappear now. It's many times bigger than all the other alternate currencies put together. Too many services are being built around Litecoin for it to plummet in value. Trust me when I say this, Litecoin is currently underpriced... you'll see in the next 3 months.
I also see PPCoin having a promising future too, with it's innovations and energy saving premise. Plus even better, it's developer Sunnyking is very talented and highly active in it's development. He even fixes vulnerabilities he finds in other coins (e.g. Terracoin).
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You might find it easier to simply buy Bitcoins and then buy the Litecoins with Bitcoins from btc-e.com
Try localbitcoins.com. They are great for small amounts and you can even do escrow.
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LTC follows BTC inversely, and even when it does, it's not always by enough to matter.
I follow the LTC market daily and this is completely wrong. I've seen them both drop heavily together and I've also seen Bitcoin drop sharply and Litecoin didn't budge a single cent. And guess what I've also seen Bitcoin shoot up and Litecoin drop like a rock. The relationship is complicated. First you say I'm completely wrong, then you say there's a complicated relationship. There is no obvious pattern, such as LTC tending to follow BTC inversely. I've seen all manner of behaviour in the last few weeks.
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I think Bitcoin has simply gained too much traction in the last month now to stop snowballing. It feels like we've hit critical mass. Surely you've noticed whenever the price dips it rebounds back up within hours. That is a very good sign.
What sealed it for me was when Bitcoin forked and the price recovered so quick.
I predict a slightly bearish weekend, especially since it's easter and banks will be closed. Come Tuesday, I expect Bitcoin to come exploding out of the gates.
At some point Bitcoin is going to enter into bubble territory. I'll worry about that in a few months time.
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LTC follows BTC inversely, and even when it does, it's not always by enough to matter.
I follow the LTC market daily and this is completely wrong. I've seen them both drop heavily together and I've also seen Bitcoin drop sharply and Litecoin didn't budge a single cent. And guess what I've also seen Bitcoin shoot up and Litecoin drop like a rock. The relationship is complicated.
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Wow that is a sharp increase in difficulty.
Yeah, I think it was the first hint that ASICs were really going to put a dent in Bitcoin GPU mining profitability. Since then diff and price have been settling at a new level. Nice work. What was the difficulty like in the first month? How many coins were being generated?
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Two changes are included in this release: 1) Fix a major vulnerability that I communicated to the terracoin dev (I will disclose this once the update is complete)
Attention everyone! This is why PPCoin is in very good hands with Sunny as the lead developer.
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About early adoption, according to you if I invest in Apple stock today I am still an early adopter. It's pointless debating it, because it's a matter of opinion what is early. All we can say for sure is, getting in at 50 cents is a hell of a lot earlier than getting in for 88 dollars. Let's asume the high point of bitcoins and litecoins will be one thousand dollars. What sounds better, a 1,000% return on investment or a 20,000% return on investment? (mental maths there so approximate figures)
I don't disagree with this sentiment, but you need to keep in mind that litecoin has 4x cap of bitcoin so the 50 cents is really $2 if you want to compare it to bitcoin and judge which one is a better value in the long run. I think that would hold true if a Litecoin was identical to a Bitcoin. But Litecoin has properties that give it an advantage over Bitcoin (fairer mining, faster confirmations). So 1 LTC = 0.25BTC may not be the eventual outcome. Of course, I don't hold a crystal ball and can only speculate like anyone else... time will tell
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A lot of what you're saying in your responses is focusing on word play/ semantics. For example, when I say Litecoins are considerably more ASIC resistant, you are trying to interpreting that literally as me saying it's not possible to build a chip to solve the hash. I don't know if you're trolling or not, but obviously you can build a chip to run any conventional algorithm. The point is how much of an advantage that chip gives you over miners who can only afford gpus or miners who just want to use their desktop computer to get some extra coins. Bitcoin ASIC's give the holders an enormous advantage over non-holders, with Litecoin unless a computer science breakthrough occurs there will be no similar devices which afford the users ridiculous computational advantages.You're saying faster confirmations aren't an advantage because of the trade off of 'security'. I'm not noticing any security issues with Litecoin and I don't see anyone else complaining and hundreds of thousands are traded everyday. All I am noticing is my transactions don't take an hour to confirm LOL at saying no Litecoins aren't an evolution they are a MUTATION. Ok buddy, I will let you keep on arguing that lol. Fact of the matter is Litecoins use a different algorithm which has benefits and have faster confirmations which also gives benefits. Really not seeing how they are identical. Do you realise if two things have differences they can't be the same? Do you think gold and silver are identical because they are both made from metal?About early adoption, according to you if I invest in Apple stock today I am still an early adopter. It's pointless debating it, because it's a matter of opinion what is early. All we can say for sure is, getting in at 50 cents is a hell of a lot earlier than getting in for 88 dollars. Let's asume the high point of bitcoins and litecoins will be one thousand dollars. What sounds better, a 1,000% return on investment or a 20,000% return on investment? (mental maths there so approximate figures) My last point, I said: Litecoins are provably scarce and people are giving them value and creating services around them... at the end of the day that's all that matters.
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In what way is it "considerably more resistant" ? Are you arguing that manufacturing cost is the reason there are no litecoin ASICs for sale right now? No. The Scrypt algorithm was designed so that it is difficult to efficiently parallel compute it. In fact it will take a computer science breakthrough to accomplish this. See the wikipedia page on scrypt - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrypt. Sure GPU's and FGPAs will give an advantage, but it will never be dramatic due to memory constraints of the algorithm. This has been well discussed on this forum. Very misleading. Confirmations coming twice as fast offer half as much security. Not misleading, it is faster. I see no-one complaining about security problems and hundreds of thousands of litecoins get traded everyday. Copying Bitcoin doesn't automatically make you competitive. And "good" in what ways, for whom or what? It's not a 'copy' it's an evolution. Competition being good for markets is simple econ 101. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_(economics) No one has missed out on Bitcoin early adoption. Come on man... Bitcoins are going for almost $90 a coin. It's all relative, subjective, opinion etc but I think most people would prefer to be an early adopter who got in at under a dollar compared to an 'early adopter' who got in at almost 100 dollars. Scarcity alone is a pretty weak argument for value. But by this argument, why not continue to branch the bitcoin code in insignificant ways a million times over. You can make the amount of coin for each one even more scarce than LTC or BTC. By your logic, each copy should become valuable. Except I don't argue anywhere in my post that scarcity alone is an argument for value. Re-read what I typed out. Or I can bolden certain words you have missed.
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Roughly 4 times as many, 84 million.
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It's a copycat of litecoin and was 51% attacked by litecoin fans presumably at its launch. 1 minute block, 1 hour difficulty adjustment 42 coins per block. 4.2 billion coins cap.
Interesting. Shame it was 51% attacked, let the free market forces decide is what I say. That said it's a cheap clone so I can't see it gaining traction regardless... particularly with a playful name like BBQCoin.
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Also, what distinguishes BBQcoin from Bitcoin and the other alt currencies?
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Diceoncrack and another gambling site will be accepting bbq soon. Should be able to get it listed on an exchange now.
Nothing solid is decided or agreed on yet, still in a preparation stage and in progress to get things confirmed. Are you in talks with btc-e or another exchange like vircurex? I've always wondered how new coins transition from being mine-only to suddenly popping up on exchanges.
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