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2081  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 28, 2013, 04:07:46 PM
I'm concerned about this joint announcement. The process should be open, transparent and allow for voting. Instead we are getting a small number of 'key people' behind the scenes calling all the shots and deciding to 'partner' coins together. These coins are supposed to be decentralized. Where was the gaining of community consensus? Seems like we are just getting this shoved in our face.

I will be pretty pissed if I wake up tomorrow and find out that a good, honest, fair coin like digitalcoin is being tainted with the feathercoin brand and wrapped up in some kind of 'partnership'. I for one don't want the feathercoin attackers who executed the last 51% attack to be drawn towards digitalcoin. Or for DGC to be associated with the feathercoin failures. And people who mine for their own respective coins should feel the same.

I understand the feathercoin bagholders are desperate to hype up anything to do with feathercoin but this just smells bad to me.
2082  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DGC] DigitalCoin.Co | Instant \ Stable \ Reliable | Usable for Purchases on: June 27, 2013, 09:32:00 PM
Any more world on the possibility of BTC-e taking on DGC?

If they did, I reckon it would make them more money than FTC.




We should campaign btc-e to take it on. It's the most popular out of all the new coins with the highest network hashrate and has a very active developer. I encourage people to post in the btc-e service topic which they reply to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40889 They will take notice if enough people ask them.
2083  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 27, 2013, 09:30:09 PM
That is DigitalCoin in the graph not Litecoin. DigitalCoin came out after Feathercoin when GPU mining was in full effect.
2084  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 27, 2013, 09:10:45 PM
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2085  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DGC] DigitalCoin.Co | Instant \ Stable \ Reliable | Usable for Purchases on: June 27, 2013, 06:57:17 PM
So, I have been hearing some more or less verified rumors that DGC may be the coin that replaces CNC on Btce-e.com. Have there been lobbying towards that or? My source isn't '100%' but have been right in the past (reg. FTC/CNC).

Edit: Well, I guess there 'might' be some truth to it. Buy side on Cryptsy just went nuts. First time in a long time I have seen 15 BTC buy orders... and it just broke out of 0.0030

I hope it's true. Smiley

Viva DGC!

We should campaign btc-e to take it on. It's the most popular out of all the new coins with the highest network hashrate and has a very active developer. I encourage people to post in the btc-e service topic which they reply to: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40889 They will take notice if enough people ask them.
2086  Economy / Exchanges / Re: BTC-E.com exchange Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin <-> USD\BTC (fee 0.2%) on: June 27, 2013, 06:55:12 PM
Please consider adding DigitalCoin (DGC) to your exchange.

It's the most popular out of all the new coins with the highest network hashrate and has a very active developer (marketplace launched, advertising platform launched, and now a 'bank' is in the works).
2087  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] LTC pump on: June 27, 2013, 06:00:32 PM

I'm thinking something like this probably isn't very healthy for LTC :-/
Thoughts?

Any kind of attempted market manipulation is not good for a crypto currencies reputation.

This kind of activity would actually be highly illegal in a regulated market and you would serve jail time. it's like that for a reason (leads to big market crashes, instability and of course unwitting people get burned).
2088  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 27, 2013, 04:29:59 PM
^ lol. it took 6 weeks for 2 million Litecoins to be produced. 2 million feathercoins were produced in the first 7 hours. No shitty video can explain that difference.


Okay let's compare them as you force us to.

In the seven hours from Litecoin block three 350,000 LTC were created. Remember that Feathercoin has four times as many coins per block so if we multiple those LTC coins up to be even we get 1.4 million equivalent Litecoins produced against our 2 million.

It is surprising the difference is not more considering how much more hash power there is out there. If you do not believe me then look at the Litecoin block chain from block 3 onwards. Blocks were solved in seconds much like the early Litecoin blocks.

http://explorer.litecoin.net/chain/Litecoin?hi=2018&count=2016

I see no problem in the way that Litecoin started and it has done very well for itself. I am a Litecoin holder and supporter. Bitcoin should not feel threatened by Litecoin and Litecoin should not feel threatened by us. In fact if we did pool resources rather than squabble then more progress would be made for all.

Feathercoin looks to work with whoever is willing regardless of what coins they have in their pocket.

I'm not interested in how you try and dress it up. 2 million feathercoins were produced in the first 7 hours. It took 6 weeks for 2 million litecoins to be produced.

7 hours vs 6 weeks (6 weeks is 1000 hours). The coins have not been distributed fairly. There wasn't even any notice given of the launch.

Bushstar would you like to explain why you made no pre-announcement of the launch? (I guarantee we don't get an honest answer to this question).
2089  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NovaCoin - Balthazar's PPC + scrypt fork, pool list on: June 26, 2013, 10:24:47 PM
Any idea what's the active user base of NVC is like? I'm asking 'cause I run ALTcointip bot and NVC is the only coin that's never been used since very beginning. Even /r/novacoin is dead.

You can see here how many times the clients have been downloaded:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/novacoin/files/

That's probably the best estimate about how many users there are.

Novacoin is the perfect coin for hoarders because it pays interest. I wouldn't dream of tipping novacoins just like I wouldn't tip gold coins.  Grin

Have you checked that page? I only see 300 downloads on it.

What do you think the real number is? NVC is the most mysterious out of all the coins... it's high value, it's stability, it's general lack of interest on here. Weird.
2090  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BTC or LTC on: June 26, 2013, 09:55:06 PM
LTC is 30% more profitable mine. And it's also going on mtgox the largest exchange platform, which many people are speculating will lead to a nice increase in Litecoin price.

I therefore recommend mining LTC and holding onto as many as you can. I will be shocked if the price hasn't gone up in 2 months.
2091  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 26, 2013, 09:42:15 PM

Mentioning pre-mine is a false argument, I don't even talk about that. You can't prove or logically argue why Bitcoin being $260 caused the 3 million feathercoins being produced on day 1. And I never said there is *anything* wrong with allowing people to mine. Good job again addressing something else I didn't even mention.

2 million litecoins were produced in the first 6 weeks. 2 million feathercoins were made in the first 7 hours. The reasons *why* this occurred are largely irrelevant it's the fact it *has* occurred is the problem.

"you can't prove or logically argue "

Really? Bitcoin at $260 didn't add additional interest to all alt currencies? Look, you can hate Feathercoin, but this statement is absolutely ridiculous.

It's a problem that the free market decided to mine? Wow.

The passion here is novel but often misdirected.


There is more interest than ever in alt currencies, that didn't stop Digitalcoin having a fair launch. The money supply graph of digital coin is a straight line all the way. Not a huge spike on day 1 of coins.

And because the free market raped feathercoin and mined 3 million of them in 1 day doesn't change the fact it's still a major discredit to the 'currency'. Especially when it's based on Litecoin which took weeks and weeks to hit 2 million.
2092  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 26, 2013, 09:36:27 PM
SMH all these things being done for feathercoin could have been done for Litecoin.

The Litecoin Project does not do shameless self-promotion and pumping of its value because we feel it would be improper to do so.  The ONLY role of the reference project is to protect the security and stability of the network.  The reference project must also never endorse or be unduly influenced by any vendor as it would create unnecessary drama from the perception of conflict of interest.  If the coin is properly maintained by a trusted team of professional developers such that the network is stable and dependable, then others may trust it and build things on top of it.

+1.

Wtogami is the Litecoin lead developer for the newest version.
2093  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 26, 2013, 09:34:51 PM
Litecoin wasn't the first to utilize scrypt. I don't quite understand the love affair, but hey, I respect the opinion.


I know it wasn't the first, I am talking about why Litecoin is different to Bitcoin. That is what I was addressing. Saying Feathercoin is going through the same phase Litecoin went though makes no sense at all, for the reasons detailed in my post.
2094  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 26, 2013, 09:30:13 PM
You seem to leave out the following:

- FTC has 4x the amount of coins

- FTC was released when Bitcoin was at it's height in price

- FTC was released when miners were circling around alt currency looking to mine

- There is nothing wrong with allowing people the ability to choose. Simple.

There was no pre-mine, already shot the kids down on that one. So basically, your argument is centered around controlling the actions of others? People chose to mine, I don't see your issue.


Mentioning pre-mine is a false argument, I don't even talk about that. You can't prove or logically argue why Bitcoin being $260 caused the 3 million feathercoins being produced on day 1. And I never said there is *anything* wrong with allowing people to mine. Good job again addressing something else I didn't even mention.

2 million litecoins were produced in the first 6 weeks. 2 million feathercoins were made in the first 7 hours. The reasons *why* this occurred are largely irrelevant it's the fact it *has* occurred is the problem.
2095  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 26, 2013, 09:26:10 PM
The same critisism you give here was already given in the LTC announcement thread . LTC was simply copy-paste etc etc.  Look where the coin is now.

LTC is different enough from Bitcoin to warrant interest. A different hash algorithm which is expensive to calculate with an ASIC and signigicantly faster transaction times. This gave miners reasons to believe in it and it quickly became the number 2 cryptocurrency, which in itself is another reason to believe in it repeating Bitcoin's success.

How is FTC different enough from Litecoin to warrant interest? Also bear in mind with your answer the current cyprocurrency climate with new coins popping up daily, compared to when Litecoin was launched and slowly gained attention.
2096  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 26, 2013, 09:18:46 PM
Great to hear your opinion, even with the annoying red text.

It's not an opinion. 2 million litecoins were produced in the first 6 weeks. 2 million feathercoins were made in the first 7 hours. Those are facts.
2097  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MT GOX artificially pumping and lowering litecoins? on: June 26, 2013, 09:04:24 PM
I meant reputation in terms of being underhand, not in terms of fuck ups. Evidently, as an exchange you can fuck up quite a bit and customers will forgive you, but if you start doing shady/underhand things like insider trading that would be mud that would stick for a long time.
2098  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Btc-e on: June 26, 2013, 08:58:33 PM
There's a lot of convincing arguments why Litecoin will go up in value when it goes on mtgox.

- There are 10,000 businesses that accept bitcoins as payment, it's hard see Litecoin dropping in value when some of them start accepting Litecoin.
- It will also take Litecoin's publicity to another level, a lot of news articles discussing Bitcoin will inevitably start giving Litecoin a passing mention. Especially as Litecoin is pitched as a superior currency to Bitcoin.
-Then of course it's simple supply and demand. Litecoin going on mtgox isn't going to increase the supply of Litecoins in the world but it will increase demand as new people will learn about them (my boss who has a bitcoin wallet didnt know what litecoins were until I showed him).
- Mtgox is also home to some very big players with deep pockets, some of those big players could easily see Litecoin as worth a punt and decide to hedge their bets and invest in Litecoin whilst it's sub $5. In fact I bet you when Litecoin actually lists on mtgox quite a few people will buy a couple just because it's there on the screen and it's so much cheaper than a bitcoin.
2099  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] LTC pump on: June 26, 2013, 08:51:36 PM
They got hacked and all the big wallets emptied who shared their btc-e username and balance here earlier? Shocked

Troll alert once again? Don't be silly. I hope I don't have to explain why your concern is way out of anything real. Looks like they got DDoSed (once again), but it's just a guess: We don't know why btc-e is down for maintenance either right now. Don't panic guys. I think they will be up again very soon or at least letting us know what's going on (by twitter or this board here) sooner or later.

Weav you log in with an email address now, not username.

Msweb btce have posted in the services subform saying it's a problem with the network/datacenter/something of that nature.
2100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Feathercoin to partner with other leading alt currencies on: June 26, 2013, 08:47:03 PM
^ lol. it took 6 weeks for 2 million Litecoins to be produced. 2 million feathercoins were produced in the first 7 hours. No shitty video can explain that difference.

FeatherCoin Network Alert: Please upgrade your Litecoin Wallet!

*Bing!*

You forget to mention all the other coins that had the same alert.  We noticed it, immediately responded and put out a new client.

Thanks for your interest in replying to the thread.

It didn't happen to digitalcoin.

Feathercoin is too similar to Litecoin to ever be very successful. It's always going to stand in Litecoin's shadow... and even if Feathercoin does successfully innovate, Litecoin can just apply the same idea with it's superior devs and community support.

Feathercoin going on mtgox is also a pipedream. There is no hope in hell mtgox would start trading a coin which was successfully 51% attacked recently, it would be a PR disaster if feathercoin got 51% attacked whilst mtgox was trading them and it would cost them dearly. Maybe it would happen one day, years from now... but I would bet within a year it's value is under 1 cent a coin.
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