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2461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 02:37:27 AM
Posting proof I am innocent of claims on every page until the OP stops these unfair allegations towards me

Proof that I was paying for my BitBars:

Item 1

What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC.

Code:
Status: 750 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:48
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -0.3999 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB
Net amount: -0.40 BTB
Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1

Status: 919 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:50
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -3.5998 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB
Net amount: -3.60 BTB
Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9


Code:
Status: 345 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:58
From: unknown
To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random)
Credit: 1.60 BTC
Net amount: +1.60 BTC
Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb

Item 2:

Successul trade that was done publicly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017598#msg2017598

Item 3:

For the 40BTB I bought off a member that ymer keeps whining about - I will pm the transaction proof to someone who is trustworthy and they will immeadiately confirm that I paid for the bitbar fair and square. It was not given to me for free, I am not a shill, I haven't done anything wrong.

I had no clue who the member was in relation to the BitBar project at the time.

Moderators of the forum can also go through my private messages, I have nothing to hide.


Who are you trying to fool? you purchased some Bitbars and that evidence was already posted BY ME in Original Post.

I thoght you were going to go to sleep and sue me tomorrow  Huh Huh Huh

No. Item 1 was not posted by you. Yet another false claim.

The moderators of the forum are welcome to go through my private messages, to see the transactions etc. Just to shut you up and your false allegations against me.
2462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [TESTING] BitBar PushPool btb.binarycoins.eu [solved] on: May 06, 2013, 02:34:08 AM
Hey sido, why does the pool site say at the bottom:

Last block value: 0.164687 BTB

It's been at that value for more than 24 hours, is that really the last block value? I would have thought that it went down from that due to difficulty increases.


I noticed that too. I wonder if something is hardcoded to prevent the reward dropping too low. In which the developer needs to address this Smiley
2463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 02:32:24 AM
Posting proof I am innocent of claims on every page until the OP stops these unfair allegations towards me

Proof that I was paying for my BitBars:

Item 1

What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC.

Code:
Status: 750 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:48
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -0.3999 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB
Net amount: -0.40 BTB
Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1

Status: 919 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:50
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -3.5998 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB
Net amount: -3.60 BTB
Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9


Code:
Status: 345 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:58
From: unknown
To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random)
Credit: 1.60 BTC
Net amount: +1.60 BTC
Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb

Item 2:

Successul trade that was done publicly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017598#msg2017598

Item 3:

For the 40BTB I bought off a member that ymer keeps whining about - I will pm the transaction proof to someone who is trustworthy and they will immeadiately confirm that I paid for the bitbar fair and square. It was not given to me for free, I am not a shill, I haven't done anything wrong.

I had no clue who the member was in relation to the BitBar project at the time.

Moderators of the forum can also go through my private messages, I have nothing to hide.




2464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 02:30:55 AM
I just noticed there's a forum called bitbartalk.com. Anyone know who it's run by? That could probably be the person behind bitbars.

That is actually me. I set it up to help the community and announced it in a topic. Again I am not related to BitBars, that is why I was spending hard earned real BTC buying them.
2465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 02:21:44 AM
Proof that I was paying for my BitBars:

Item 1

What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC.

Code:
Status: 750 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:48
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -0.3999 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB
Net amount: -0.40 BTB
Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1

Status: 919 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:50
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -3.5998 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB
Net amount: -3.60 BTB
Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9


Code:
Status: 345 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:58
From: unknown
To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random)
Credit: 1.60 BTC
Net amount: +1.60 BTC
Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb

Item 2:

Successul trade that was done publicly:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017598#msg2017598

Item 3:

For the 40BTB I bought off a member that ymer keeps whining about - I will pm the transaction proof to someone who is trustworthy and they will immeadiately confirm that I paid for the bitbar fair and square. It was not given to me for free, I am not a shill, I haven't done anything wrong.

I had no clue who the member was in relation to the BitBar project at the time.

Moderators of the forum can also go through my private messages, I have nothing to hide.



2466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 02:12:56 AM

And I already told you that I want to know the name of the person to be PUBLIC before throwing out the accusation, keepin it private is evidence that you are colluded with insiders.

You are clutching at straws. I have offered proof via the blockchain transactions that I paid for the 40 BitBar. There are also two people (petrified and alexfun) which back up my story that I also paid for their BitBars.

If you don't like me naming the people I trade with, tough. You don't tell me what to do and I don't respond to bullies.
2467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 02:04:57 AM
People decide a trustworthy person that I can send transaction proofs to that I paid for the 40BTB. My only request is that the chosen person keeps the details secret and just confirms what I say is true. I have to go now since I can't sit at my computer all day, will be back in a few hours.

There is already one person in this thread that has posted transaction proof that I paid for their 4 BTB (user petrified). This backs up what I have been saying that I paid for my BTB. OP needs to stop criticizing the intelligence of others.

Everything I have said is the truth.
2468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 01:40:02 AM
Hi everyone,

It's difficult for me to defend myself because you guys aren't giving me a fair chance. I already have one person posting transaction details in the topic and backing up that I was buying BTB private over pm's.

If someone is trustworthy I can private message them more transaction details, for the 40 BTB. So long as they will keep the details private. We did the transaction in 4 chunks. Please be quick as I have things to do.

Ymer,

I have sent a message to the admin. You will be hearing from my lawyer. This will be a good lesson for you in life.
2469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 12:35:01 AM
What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 (well just under after fees) off me for 1.6 BTC.

Code:
Status: 750 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:48
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -0.3999 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0001 BTB
Net amount: -0.40 BTB
Transaction ID: 70886f28350ea98313e1c4ac6d251b47a37725cfac6de5b7892f94e4ec2adae1

Status: 919 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:50
To: mr_random B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x
Debit: -3.5998 BTB
Transaction fee: -0.0002 BTB
Net amount: -3.60 BTB
Transaction ID: dfbce6af88aefa3c170cb11ef5a36246493119db11a51075459193ae4a002ab9


Code:
Status: 345 confirmations
Date: 03/05/2013 19:58
From: unknown
To: 1JsJPdcJ1qJmKdeTa8jwqnfsXFwppzaBwH (own address, label: mr_random)
Credit: 1.60 BTC
Net amount: +1.60 BTC
Transaction ID: ac90117a0af4984d9b5c089e44b8f38b864c6b7cf3a99857513ca850051377bb






Thank you.

I made trades with several people for BitBar. Some were even small amounts.

You guys ruining my reputation really need to look at yourself, I spent my money in good faith. No different from anyone else who has traded coins when they get released. How was I supposed to know.

OP I have given you ample chance to remove the title and withdraw the accusations of me being a shill. I am writing to the admin to obtain your IP address. If he won't supply it due to rules, the admin will be receiving a court order for it and then I will be seeing you in court.

As I said previously, that person is welcome to come forward. But I am not bringing another individual into this witch-hunt as he wasn't a pre-miner. Up to him if he wants to be the next one to get a whipping.
2470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 12:23:11 AM
What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 off me for 1.6 BTC.



Thank you. I can even provide transaction proof.

I believe you AND I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE, now spill the beans. Who is the member that mined hundreds of BitBars on the first minutes after the 1 min announcement?

Change the title of the topic you idiot or I am sending a complaint to the moderator. I haven't done anything wrong, I bought the BitBars in good faith.

Name the member and I'll change title.

Nope. I am proven not to be a shill.

I hope you are ready for a legal case and I am not joking. You're throwing false accusations around despite proof that you are wrong. Good luck with that. Oh and don't bother deleting your posts, I have taken screenshots.
2471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 12:20:11 AM
What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 off me for 1.6 BTC.



Thank you. I can even provide transaction proof.

I believe you AND I PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE, now spill the beans. Who is the member that mined hundreds of BitBars on the first minutes after the 1 min announcement?

Change the title of the topic you idiot or I am sending a complaint to the moderator. I haven't done anything wrong, I bought the BitBars in good faith.
2472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 12:05:01 AM
What makes you think he didn't just buy them from the person who mined them? Much like he bought 4 off me for 1.6 BTC.



Thank you. I can even provide transaction proof.
2473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [BitBar] Calling out first uncovered SHILL mr_random on: May 06, 2013, 12:04:07 AM
Hey mr_random

Can you tell me why did you receive 40 Bitbars from the same person that mined the first blocks? and would that explain why are you defending it so hard?

I think this shill is toast:

Post where he shows his address: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194243.msg2017517#msg2017517

As you wish: B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x

I will send your btc once I receive.

Cheers

The wallet owned by mr_random itself: http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/address/B7BeA9WHxmuUrYhQq7NeckRDhbY99WgG6x

The wallet that mined a lot of bitbars at launch and then transfered to mr_random (creator or insider): http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/address/BCFweavyA6oRGQLRixV7ZeZggSr2iGh8bx

You were donated a fair ammount of BitBar to use your post count and reputation to defend it didn't you?  

Completely incorrect. I paid for those BitBar fair and square from a member here.

You owe me an apology.
2474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 05, 2013, 11:46:48 PM
scrypt(N,1,1) means no current miner software will work. Are you gonna release a patch miner? Are you gonna tweak it so your own version is so much better?

If no current miner software will work, how will we mine it?

I'm excited by this, I like coins that offer something new.
2475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [WTS] 2 BTB on: May 05, 2013, 11:32:29 PM
Hey,

Would like to sell 2 BitBars, @ 1.5 BTC each.

PM me.

So you call BitBars a big scam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195818.msg2041030#msg2041030) yet you are mining for them and selling them... I hope people thinking of buying from this user read this and buy elsewhere.
2476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BitBar Didn't Pre-Mine, they were just conveniently ready on: May 05, 2013, 11:17:36 PM
Lol  @ ymer saying hdclover is an insider.

You keep defending BitBar with silly posts with strawman and derails, go back to spamming how awesome BitBar is.

You fail you realize that? Lets count my posts vs your post on BitBars and see who is spamming.

You keep showing up in all the threads where the BitBar is exposed giving silly arguments, not a single significaive post by you has been seen.

Your arguments:

"LOL you were late to the game"
"LOL you think that people making threads defending BitBar over and over are insiders"  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Keep getting mad. I never said anything. Neither did you, except you copied other people's ideas into your posts. Who cares if I show up in threads? Who cares if i say what I want? Who cares if you said hdclover is an insider? Did you read my response to it? Did i flat out object to it? No. So, thanks. Keep it to yourself. I haven't made a single thread about these BitBars, unlike you.

Just click ignore. I've done it to 3 people and now I've noticed I don't see any of these anti-BitBar trolls. Anywhere.  Smiley
2477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [BTB] 3 BitBar for sale - pm me on: May 05, 2013, 11:15:29 PM
Hi all,

3 BitBar for sale. I would like 2 BTC per BitBar, but I am willing to negotiate. Please message me privately, I've locked this topic.  Smiley

I accept Bitcoin, Litecoin and Feathercoin.

Cheers.
2478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 05, 2013, 11:06:43 PM
Nice idea. What is the starting difficulty going to be?

I'm really confused here. People kicked up a big fuss about BitBar's starting difficulty (even though it was no different to a lot of other coin launches) and now a new coin is launching no-one cares about the starting difficulty? I notice Substrata isn't asking about this in this thread which is amusing to me since half of his 70 odd posts must be about BitBar's difficulty level lol
2479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Biggest BitBar Pool is under DDOS on: May 05, 2013, 10:43:25 PM
This to me is an encouraging sign, strangely enough. This is happening over at http://btb.binarycoins.eu/,according to the top right corner of the page.

If BitBar wasn't seen as a threat, people wouldn't waste their resources attacking it, they would let it die out if it's really such a pointless concept with rare bars.

Long live BitBar!  Cool
2480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 05, 2013, 10:26:49 PM
Nice idea. What is the starting difficulty going to be?
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