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301  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: September 15, 2016, 03:27:12 PM
Yes bitcoin can disappear if all the bitcoins are sold and nobody buys them then they wouldn't exist anymore. but that won't happen cause there is too much money into it already and that cant just dissapear instantly.

that's complete nonsense. even without bitcoin having value, the coins will always be there. they will never vanish. as long as there are a few miners and nodes, the whole system keeps running without any problems.
302  Other / Off-topic / Re: What is your plan to get rich with Bitcoin? on: September 15, 2016, 02:41:26 PM
Its hard to believe to get rich with bitcoins as for that you need to have really good volume of coins and if we can't manage to do that then we can never become rich with bitcoins.

these times are over. if you as average bitcoiner wanted to get rich at some point, then you had to buy your coins back in 2011/2012. right now the get rich times are over for the average bitcoiner. no need to focus on this anymore.
303  Economy / Speculation / Re: wtf is happening? btc drop on: September 15, 2016, 01:48:56 PM
If you’re a miner or investing in bitcoin, then those drops are really significant but you cant really say that bitcoin is dropping because you have to compare of a long time span the value

people should always look at the long term, but a lot people here don't care about the long term value. these people are only interested in quick and easy profits. everything else is just not important.
304  Economy / Speculation / Re: Keep or sell? on: September 15, 2016, 01:27:53 PM
Buy, buy while you can. But wait couple days for it. Bitcoin market is consolidating right now, which means on the way bitcoin price might drop to $570-$580.
Experts predicts huge price spike after that. So my advice, wait couple days and if price won't drop - buy. BTC is getting fatter.

i never look at what experts say. every prediction that comes from these "experts" has a hidden agenda. best is to do your own research. i personally expect no real upwards potential at this point. at least not higher than $700 for the rest of this year. i don't even rule out another sub $600 dive that may keep the price there for a while.
305  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bank or Bitcoin Wallet? on: September 15, 2016, 01:08:11 PM
What is wallet superiority? I know the bank is the safe one to keep my money. How about the wallets? Anyone can help me to know please  Grin

with bitcoin you actually hold what you own. that's not the case with banks. that said, when you store your money in bitcoin, you first need to make sure that you are having a clean virus free computer. if that's the case, then you can secure your wallet file(s) with a very strong passphrase in order to "guarantee" that your coins are safe. and of course there are more security options that you can use to have a safe wallet, but that was just an easy example. if your computer security isn't top notch, and the wallet file is secured with a poor password, then then a bitcoin wallet won't offer you any security. but that's all up to you.
306  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Has anyone ever lost bitcoins before? on: September 15, 2016, 12:48:18 PM
I did loose many times in gambling but at that time price of bitcoin was very low so it was affordable, but at this stage we cannot make the same mistake to put money in gambling as price is high now.

coins having low value back in the days doesn't really matter since 1btc is and will always be 1btc. if you look back at how it is right now, then the value will be much higher of course. gambling in general is bad. the house always wins in the long run.
307  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you like to pay bills using bitcoins while staying at home? on: September 15, 2016, 12:33:24 PM
As long as it gets the job done, it can be done. i don't care. I ordered my bank to do so when the payment time comes, my bank pays the bills automatically. If bitcoin can have the same feature, i would definitely use it instead of using banks.

in modern countries you can pay everything automatically via your bank. no hassle here. but there are countries where this isn't as easy. especially when they don't have a bank account, and when they need to walk to a certain place to send the payment to the right company or person. that is in fact a real hassle. in this case bitcoin can help these people out if the company itself accepts bitcoin, or they make use of a service that offers such an option.
308  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: September 15, 2016, 12:15:23 PM
Yes the price does matter, people that are new are investing on the bitcoin based on the price, I think its good that we have a price.
If we had no price a lot of people and company's never stepped in..

without a volatile price, it would basically be a waste of time for investors to step into bitcoin. so yes, in that aspect the price plays a crucial role into attracting money from traders to make sure the market has enough (or at least a good amount) liquidity.

At this current point in time yes people invest to speculate and make money.  In the future though bitcoin might be the safe stable place to always hold your money and then speculate in other things like USD.

i don't think bitcoin will be stable enough where people say it's a safe haven to store money in. volatility will always be an important part of bitcoin. that makes bitcoin interesting for traders as that will attract fresh money.
309  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: September 15, 2016, 11:14:13 AM
Well if it would be a choice of high value like lets say 50k usd then I'd pick gold over bitcoin anytime and for any value under 10k I'd pick bitcoin without thinking. For values inbetween I'd have to see what I would do. Gold is way more stable so more attractive to keep money safe
That is the right decision, and I agree with your because you have a better chance to make a profit investing in gold if you have a decent capital while if you just have a small capital then bitcoin is the answer on that.

bitcoin at all times offers a better return than any other investment, but in this case gold as that is the subject here. if the profits don't come from holding it for a certain period, and to sell it later on, then bitcoin is an attractive tool for trading purposes where you can benefit from regular ups and downs in the price. bitcoin as investment is more risky than gold, but the eventual rewards are much greater.
310  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: September 14, 2016, 03:41:24 PM
Yes the price does matter, people that are new are investing on the bitcoin based on the price, I think its good that we have a price.
If we had no price a lot of people and company's never stepped in..

without a volatile price, it would basically be a waste of time for investors to step into bitcoin. so yes, in that aspect the price plays a crucial role into attracting money from traders to make sure the market has enough (or at least a good amount) liquidity.
311  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did anyone buy during $1200? on: September 14, 2016, 03:15:47 PM
I do not think that people would buy for this because it is so high not many people would be like I am just going to to buy some Bitcoin for $1200.
Many people could do better things with that much money then investing it on Bitcoin.

there were many people buying at +$1000 levels back in 2013. people that bought at such prices were seriously thinking the price would rise even further from that point. it was pure greed that took the price to reach a new all time high. these people got burned heavily. from $1200 to sub $200 is sick.
312  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WORST decision about BTC on: September 14, 2016, 03:03:22 PM
In my early days in earning bitcoin worst moment is still in my destiny because I will always scam by ponzi site but I never learned. He he. Bitcoib is a matter of risking your hardwork money to just get your money grow and get more profit but time by time my skills are improving and I can say I can get money now I mean I get profit.

HYIP or ponzi was indeed a major problem or something that is very much in circulation in the bitcoin. And also most beginners use ponzi hyips or alternatively folded duplicate bitcoin, it is certainly very huge risk, because if the affected user is bitcoin who have thought less rational. Most likely he will make bad news and hates bitcoin until whenever

people that are pumping money into obvious scams are seriously stupid. these people support them to continue their activities as with their money they can "pay out" new victims to make it look like they are legit. it's basically you destroying your own capital...


Exactly but I think people who are new to the industry are not aware about the scams happening around and that is the reason they get attracted towards and put their money in those sites.

there will always be newbies that blindly invest their money into something, but even when you're new, then you can still feel that certain things look too good to be true. greed takes over people and make them take bad decisions unfortunately.
313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Keep or sell? on: September 14, 2016, 02:42:17 PM
it is time to hold bitcoin not selling it. the price has been stable for a while and now that it is showing some small signs of rising you want to sell! that doesn't sound so smart to me.

also in general bitcoin is best as a long term investment so you should hold it for long term to get the best profit.

i always advice people around me to diversify their portfolio, and to have 10% of it in bitcoin as long term investment. i adviced certain people to do the same last year when the price was below the $300 level, but they didn't listen. look now, they could have made a good 100% profit in a single year.
314  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: September 14, 2016, 02:27:30 PM
I like this both
bitcoin for trading everyday and gold is an investment for the long term.

bitcoin is a more than interesting investment for the long term. especially when you look at the potential of both options and put them together to compare which one has more room for potential growth. and that one will be bitcoin. just imagine what will happen with the price if bitcoin lives up to all the expectations from people. Wink
315  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin be pumped-and-dumped? on: September 14, 2016, 02:19:26 PM
I think yes, although it is needs much capital for doing it and depend on strategy of trading from bagholder because it is dangerous if doing without good calculating, will same with burn money.

whales team up to get the price to be pumped up. if a single whale would try to pump the price, then the chances of seeing the price get dumped down, and all his effort go to waste, are very high. if you do it with other wealthy traders, then you can achieve much more, and the chances of succeeding are much higher.
316  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WORST decision about BTC on: September 14, 2016, 02:06:38 PM
In my early days in earning bitcoin worst moment is still in my destiny because I will always scam by ponzi site but I never learned. He he. Bitcoib is a matter of risking your hardwork money to just get your money grow and get more profit but time by time my skills are improving and I can say I can get money now I mean I get profit.

HYIP or ponzi was indeed a major problem or something that is very much in circulation in the bitcoin. And also most beginners use ponzi hyips or alternatively folded duplicate bitcoin, it is certainly very huge risk, because if the affected user is bitcoin who have thought less rational. Most likely he will make bad news and hates bitcoin until whenever

people that are pumping money into obvious scams are seriously stupid. these people support them to continue their activities as with their money they can "pay out" new victims to make it look like they are legit. it's basically you destroying your own capital...
317  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: September 13, 2016, 05:44:20 PM
I think you are confusing bitcoin with some other concept or probably with financial aid or something. See bitcoin is basically next form of money so it is a cryptocurrency. It has some features which uplift the transactions on international level and it transforms the way we use to transact.

Bitcoin won’t do any right or wrong thing but the users would do it, so if someone is donating his bitcoins in poor countries then we can safely say yes it’s helping those countries but that would be the micro case.
Bitcoin will help everyone in the same manner but with some more benefits that traditional money does.


them being able to use bitcoin instead of their costly ways of doing payments can save them quite some money if you look at it from a monthly point of view. but it will be on a personal level, and not so much on a country level.
318  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: September 13, 2016, 05:37:49 PM
At a moment I will not prefer to get paid in bitcoins as price is not high and there is no guarantee that it will be even higher in future so it will be a huge risk to take.

you don't need the price to be high in order to receive bitcoin as your salary. if you think the current price is low, then it means that your salary will get you more bitcoins as result compared to when the price is really high. that's the benefit.

That's true but what is the use of holding them for a  long time till it reaches to high point, as you will never sell them till the price goes higher and no one knows when exactly it will happen.

well, people holding their coins for a long period of time can have several reasons. the pure investment minded people keep holding till it reaches a certain price level to sell at. others purely use bitcoin as store of value tool to keep their holdings out the reach of governments and banks. and the price going up makes it an extra bonus for them.

People can afford to hold them for a long term only if they have other source of income and bitcoin is pure investment for them but a person whose income is only from bitcoins will not prefer to hold it for long term as he needs money to run his life and take care of his family.

every bit of generated bitcoin should be seen as an extra revenue stream, and not as main income. that's very important to know. you should never fully depend on bitcoin unless you are earning big when you for example run a very profitable service or something.
319  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: September 13, 2016, 04:47:18 PM
At a moment I will not prefer to get paid in bitcoins as price is not high and there is no guarantee that it will be even higher in future so it will be a huge risk to take.

you don't need the price to be high in order to receive bitcoin as your salary. if you think the current price is low, then it means that your salary will get you more bitcoins as result compared to when the price is really high. that's the benefit.

That's true but what is the use of holding them for a  long time till it reaches to high point, as you will never sell them till the price goes higher and no one knows when exactly it will happen.

well, people holding their coins for a long period of time can have several reasons. the pure investment minded people keep holding till it reaches a certain price level to sell at. others purely use bitcoin as store of value tool to keep their holdings out the reach of governments and banks. and the price going up makes it an extra bonus for them.
320  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you accept bitcoin as your salary? on: September 13, 2016, 04:23:11 PM
At a moment I will not prefer to get paid in bitcoins as price is not high and there is no guarantee that it will be even higher in future so it will be a huge risk to take.

you don't need the price to be high in order to receive bitcoin as your salary. if you think the current price is low, then it means that your salary will get you more bitcoins as result compared to when the price is really high. that's the benefit.
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