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#WhiteLivesMatter as well.
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The basic theme of the Bible is salvation of the mortal soul. Science doesn't even have a clue that the soul exists. Other religions barely have the idea of salvation. Science has the biggest holes of all.  The big difference is that bible holes stay holes forever. Science holes get filled in, albeit slowly. Sometimes science unplugs a "placeholder" bible misplugged hole and puts is own plug in as correct replacement. For example when the young 6000 year old earth plug was replace with the correct 4.5 billion year old earth plug. Thank God for science. (Not the bible god of course, who gets things wrong.) Actually, it's the other way around. Science continually proves out the Bible when it touches on something that the Bible says. The idea of a 13 billion old universe is a fictional thing that the science religion has dredged up. The 6,200 year old universe is historical record, recorded in the Bible. Science keeps on trying to prove evolution. But all they have done so far is to prove that evolution doesn't exist. When they say it does, they prove that they are liars, or deceptive at best. Nope, as explain in a previous thread, science cannot prove anything about anything. That's not how it works. So your claim that science is trying to prove evolution is false. Not sure if you just don't understand science or being deliberately deceptive. Now you are simply playing on words. However, if what you say is true, it gives the Bible eye witness record more credibility. I dont get all these argument's about religion here. Bible is a book. Books dont get written by a god's,they get written by humans. So why do we think,that there is someone in the skies,who rules the whole universe? because some book actually tells us that? Makes no sense to me,but well,im an atheist. Makes absolute sense. Here's how. Everything operates by cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. This means that everything has been programmed to operate the way it does. This means that when the Programmer, God, programmed the Bible to be written, He also programmed what the people who wrote it actually put into it. So, essentially, the Bible was written by God. After all, try to show us something that happens spontaneously - anything - without something causing it to happen. There isn't anything. God programmed it all. Did he program in all the bible flaws and contradictions as well? How many times are you going to ask this? No! He gave free will, and we programmed our own flaws in, by accepting what the devil had to say. Please, for your own sake, don't dig yourself into the infamous "free will" hole again. It's binary, either we have free will or we don't. You can't cherrypick. We don't even have free will.
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Mister Putin is straight.
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Almost every nation in the world has had the opportunity to accept it, now. There are only a few tribes left in the jungles, that have not had the chance to hear about it (Christianity) yet, because of their remoteness. Once they have received the opportunity, there will be nothing left that has to be fulfilled. Then the end will come. Tribe people have their own God, they wouldn't be interested in your silly bible one. Spoiler alert: Jesus isn't returning. The religious elite have taken advantage of you and spoonfed you lies. Wake up! |
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The basic theme of the Bible is salvation of the mortal soul. Science doesn't even have a clue that the soul exists. Other religions barely have the idea of salvation. Science has the biggest holes of all. The big difference is that bible holes stay holes forever. Science holes get filled in, albeit slowly. Sometimes science unplugs a "placeholder" bible misplugged hole and puts is own plug in as correct replacement. For example when the young 6000 year old earth plug was replace with the correct 4.5 billion year old earth plug. Thank God for science. (Not the bible god of course, who gets things wrong.) Actually, it's the other way around. Science continually proves out the Bible when it touches on something that the Bible says. The idea of a 13 billion old universe is a fictional thing that the science religion has dredged up. The 6,200 year old universe is historical record, recorded in the Bible. Science keeps on trying to prove evolution. But all they have done so far is to prove that evolution doesn't exist. When they say it does, they prove that they are liars, or deceptive at best. Nope, as explain in a previous thread, science cannot prove anything about anything. That's not how it works. So your claim that science is trying to prove evolution is false. Not sure if you just don't understand science or being deliberately deceptive. Now you are simply playing on words. However, if what you say is true, it gives the Bible eye witness record more credibility. I dont get all these argument's about religion here. Bible is a book. Books dont get written by a god's,they get written by humans. So why do we think,that there is someone in the skies,who rules the whole universe? because some book actually tells us that? Makes no sense to me,but well,im an atheist. Makes absolute sense. Here's how. Everything operates by cause and effect, which is upheld by Newton's 3rd Law. This means that everything has been programmed to operate the way it does. This means that when the Programmer, God, programmed the Bible to be written, He also programmed what the people who wrote it actually put into it. So, essentially, the Bible was written by God. After all, try to show us something that happens spontaneously - anything - without something causing it to happen. There isn't anything. God programmed it all. Did he program in all the bible flaws and contradictions as well? |
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The basic theme of the Bible is salvation of the mortal soul. Science doesn't even have a clue that the soul exists. Other religions barely have the idea of salvation. Science has the biggest holes of all. The big difference is that bible holes stay holes forever. Science holes get filled in, albeit slowly. Sometimes science unplugs a "placeholder" bible misplugged hole and puts is own plug in as correct replacement. For example when the young 6000 year old earth plug was replace with the correct 4.5 billion year old earth plug. Thank God for science. (Not the bible god of course, who gets things wrong.) Actually, it's the other way around. Science continually proves out the Bible when it touches on something that the Bible says. The idea of a 13 billion old universe is a fictional thing that the science religion has dredged up. The 6,200 year old universe is historical record, recorded in the Bible. Science keeps on trying to prove evolution. But all they have done so far is to prove that evolution doesn't exist. When they say it does, they prove that they are liars, or deceptive at best. Nope, as explain in a previous thread, science cannot prove anything about anything. That's not how it works. So your claim that science is trying to prove evolution is false. Not sure if you just don't understand science or being deliberately deceptive. |
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How old do you think Earth is? Why?
Consensus among scientists from different fields of studies says that the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years. But it's not that I "think", you cannot "guess" the age of the world. You need evidence. it's the result of measures done by hundreds of scientists, with hundreds of experiments. And they are all consistent with each other (minus the margin of error stated before). The scientific model is based on the idea that certain things in the universe have been going on throughout all time, similarly as they are going on today. Take carbon dating, for example. Carbon dating is based on the idea that the C-14 content on earth, in the atmosphere, has been relatively the same for at least hundreds of thousands of years. But nobody knows that this is the fact. If the amount of C-14 forming, has been increasing very slowly over the years - so slowly that nobody could see or measure the increase - there is the potential that there was little to no C-14 back beyond 5,000 years ago. This would mean that carbon dating numbers are extremely far off... by as much as millions or billions of years. And this kind of mistaken thinking is the same kind that permeates virtually all of the scientific thinking on the dating subject. The furthest science can go back with any accuracy at all is about 4,500 years. And even this is shaky. It is based on dating pottery and buildings from the distant past. Comparing the writings of ancient peoples and nations from beyond 3,000 years ago shows discrepancies in the writings that indicate that we don't know how to read dead languages correctly, or else the people of those days wrote historical fiction like we write science fiction today. On the other hand, Moses lived and wrote 3,500 to 3,600 years ago. He had been a prince of Egypt, with access to whatever writings this great nation had back then. We can trust his writings because of the stubbornness of ancient Israel. This stubbornness is born out in the writings of the scribes of Israel. Bible books from the Dead Sea scrolls of over 2,000 years ago, are essentially the same as they are in our modern Bibles. This means that we can place faith in the things that Moses wrote for us in the first 5 books of the Bible, way more than we can place faith in the writings of today's scientists. In fact, today's scientists tell us right in their writings that they are actually guessing as to the age of things. The point is, the earth and universe are less than 7,000 years old, and probably only 6,200 years old. See http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm for how this is calculated out in the Bible. If the universe is much older than 6,200 years, the age cannot be calculated, because time and the space-time continuum operated differently before that time. You are saying like carbon is the only dating technique. There are many kinds of dating techniques available. Like Potasium argon dating that can be use to date up to billions of years. Depends. If potassium argon provides strong evidence parts of the bible are complete nonsense it must then be completely disregarded, no questions asked. On the other hand if potassium argon backed up the bible it would regarded as a gift from god and 100% correct. The young earthling lot are a strange bunch. All of these kinds of dating concepts have the same flaw. You have to know what things were like in the past to date them. And the only way you can know is to go back in time, or to find some ancient scientifically advanced race that kept scientific records like we do. The farthest we can go back with any kind of certainty at all is about 4,500 years. Why. Because that is when the Great Flood covered the earth. Things were different before that time. At best, we simply don't know. As mentioned earlier, heat dissipation is the biggest thorn in your side anyway so arguing the accuracy of dating methods doesn't help your cause. I don't know too much about the great flood. Wasn't that myth debunked years ago? When you don't know the amount of heat in the first place, heat dissipation doesn't have any meaning. When you are unaware of the various kinds of heat sinks that may have existed in the past, there is no way to tell about heat dissipation. However, one thing is certain. Entropy. The evidence that the earth has been bombarded with meteors in the past is simply too great to pretend they didn't happen. Mathematicians can quite accurately calculate the heat output from a given size and speed of meteor smashing into earth. A few of the bigger ones would of literally boiled off the earths oceans. That unthinkable amount of heat would take hundreds of thousands of years to dissipate. |
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The basic theme of the Bible is salvation of the mortal soul. Science doesn't even have a clue that the soul exists. Other religions barely have the idea of salvation. Science has the biggest holes of all. The big difference is that bible holes stay holes forever. Science holes get filled in, albeit slowly. Sometimes science unplugs a "placeholder" bible misplugged hole and puts is own plug in as correct replacement. For example when the young 6000 year old earth plug was replace with the correct 4.5 billion year old earth plug. Thank God for science. (Not the bible god of course, who gets things wrong.) |
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Sounds like you're banging your head against a wall. Considering Christian mythology has more holes than a colander, that's understandable.   But a lot few holes than anything else that is available. Oh, so your admitting the bible has holes now? I thought the "word of God" was the perfect infallible book? Care to share with us what holes your admitting to? There’s *plenty* of choice. |
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How old do you think Earth is? Why?
Consensus among scientists from different fields of studies says that the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years. But it's not that I "think", you cannot "guess" the age of the world. You need evidence. it's the result of measures done by hundreds of scientists, with hundreds of experiments. And they are all consistent with each other (minus the margin of error stated before). The scientific model is based on the idea that certain things in the universe have been going on throughout all time, similarly as they are going on today. Take carbon dating, for example. Carbon dating is based on the idea that the C-14 content on earth, in the atmosphere, has been relatively the same for at least hundreds of thousands of years. But nobody knows that this is the fact. If the amount of C-14 forming, has been increasing very slowly over the years - so slowly that nobody could see or measure the increase - there is the potential that there was little to no C-14 back beyond 5,000 years ago. This would mean that carbon dating numbers are extremely far off... by as much as millions or billions of years. And this kind of mistaken thinking is the same kind that permeates virtually all of the scientific thinking on the dating subject. The furthest science can go back with any accuracy at all is about 4,500 years. And even this is shaky. It is based on dating pottery and buildings from the distant past. Comparing the writings of ancient peoples and nations from beyond 3,000 years ago shows discrepancies in the writings that indicate that we don't know how to read dead languages correctly, or else the people of those days wrote historical fiction like we write science fiction today. On the other hand, Moses lived and wrote 3,500 to 3,600 years ago. He had been a prince of Egypt, with access to whatever writings this great nation had back then. We can trust his writings because of the stubbornness of ancient Israel. This stubbornness is born out in the writings of the scribes of Israel. Bible books from the Dead Sea scrolls of over 2,000 years ago, are essentially the same as they are in our modern Bibles. This means that we can place faith in the things that Moses wrote for us in the first 5 books of the Bible, way more than we can place faith in the writings of today's scientists. In fact, today's scientists tell us right in their writings that they are actually guessing as to the age of things. The point is, the earth and universe are less than 7,000 years old, and probably only 6,200 years old. See http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm for how this is calculated out in the Bible. If the universe is much older than 6,200 years, the age cannot be calculated, because time and the space-time continuum operated differently before that time. You are saying like carbon is the only dating technique. There are many kinds of dating techniques available. Like Potasium argon dating that can be use to date up to billions of years. Depends. If potassium argon provides strong evidence parts of the bible are complete nonsense it must then be completely disregarded, no questions asked. On the other hand if potassium argon backed up the bible it would regarded as a gift from god and 100% correct. The young earthling lot are a strange bunch. All of these kinds of dating concepts have the same flaw. You have to know what things were like in the past to date them. And the only way you can know is to go back in time, or to find some ancient scientifically advanced race that kept scientific records like we do. The farthest we can go back with any kind of certainty at all is about 4,500 years. Why. Because that is when the Great Flood covered the earth. Things were different before that time. At best, we simply don't know. As mentioned earlier, heat dissipation is the biggest thorn in your side anyway so arguing the accuracy of dating methods doesn't help your cause. I don't know too much about the great flood. Wasn't that myth debunked years ago? |
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How old do you think Earth is? Why?
Consensus among scientists from different fields of studies says that the age of the Earth is 4.54 ± 0.05 billion years. But it's not that I "think", you cannot "guess" the age of the world. You need evidence. it's the result of measures done by hundreds of scientists, with hundreds of experiments. And they are all consistent with each other (minus the margin of error stated before). The scientific model is based on the idea that certain things in the universe have been going on throughout all time, similarly as they are going on today. Take carbon dating, for example. Carbon dating is based on the idea that the C-14 content on earth, in the atmosphere, has been relatively the same for at least hundreds of thousands of years. But nobody knows that this is the fact. If the amount of C-14 forming, has been increasing very slowly over the years - so slowly that nobody could see or measure the increase - there is the potential that there was little to no C-14 back beyond 5,000 years ago. This would mean that carbon dating numbers are extremely far off... by as much as millions or billions of years. And this kind of mistaken thinking is the same kind that permeates virtually all of the scientific thinking on the dating subject. The furthest science can go back with any accuracy at all is about 4,500 years. And even this is shaky. It is based on dating pottery and buildings from the distant past. Comparing the writings of ancient peoples and nations from beyond 3,000 years ago shows discrepancies in the writings that indicate that we don't know how to read dead languages correctly, or else the people of those days wrote historical fiction like we write science fiction today. On the other hand, Moses lived and wrote 3,500 to 3,600 years ago. He had been a prince of Egypt, with access to whatever writings this great nation had back then. We can trust his writings because of the stubbornness of ancient Israel. This stubbornness is born out in the writings of the scribes of Israel. Bible books from the Dead Sea scrolls of over 2,000 years ago, are essentially the same as they are in our modern Bibles. This means that we can place faith in the things that Moses wrote for us in the first 5 books of the Bible, way more than we can place faith in the writings of today's scientists. In fact, today's scientists tell us right in their writings that they are actually guessing as to the age of things. The point is, the earth and universe are less than 7,000 years old, and probably only 6,200 years old. See http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm for how this is calculated out in the Bible. If the universe is much older than 6,200 years, the age cannot be calculated, because time and the space-time continuum operated differently before that time. You are saying like carbon is the only dating technique. There are many kinds of dating techniques available. Like Potasium argon dating that can be use to date up to billions of years. Depends. If potassium argon provides strong evidence parts of the bible are complete nonsense it must then be completely disregarded, no questions asked. On the other hand if potassium argon backed up the bible it would regarded as a gift from god and 100% correct. The young earthling lot are a strange bunch. |
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God exist really??I dont beleive.Where are that miracles??Now world have biggest number of aheist and where is god to make something miracle to proof that he exist??I was writing onlime book that all Jesus,Muhamed,Buda was using drugs and when they feel better they were wrote about God from their heads.
One of the biggest miracles is the fact that life exists. People cannot make life in the laboratory. The best scientists can do is take parts of living cells and make them alive in different ways. Nobody can make life from inorganic substances. Life is impossible to make. Yet it is all around us in abundance. Since nobody can make life, yet life is here, life is a miracle. EDIT: Evolution is impossible - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1454732.0. The origin of life (called abiogenesis) is certainly an interesting topic, but it is not a part of the evolutionary theory. Unfortunately deceptive people with weak arguments try to undermine evolution by mixing the two. |
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Had some savage sodomy last night.
The ground remains firm beneath our feet.
Seems God couldn't care less what you do, much to the annoyance of the angry homophobic religious folk. God loves everybody, christian, atheist, muslim, gay etc.. But He hates sin and at some point He reacts and stops harmful, irrational and unnatural behavior. Creating sin, knowing full well that people would sin, then hating sin, is absurd. Does that mean your god will react to himself for being harmful and irrational? Is creating sin a sin? Maybe he'll destroy himself? He's the biggest sinner of all. |
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- there is the potential that there was little to no C-14 back beyond 5,000 years ago. This would mean that carbon dating numbers are extremely far off... by as much as millions or billions of years.
Radiocarbon dating is generally limited to dating samples no more than 50,000 years old, as samples older than that have insufficient 14C to be measurable. Carbon dating is based on the idea that the C-14 content on earth, in the atmosphere, has been relatively the same for at least hundreds of thousands of years This is also a false claim. Scientist well know about environmental variations. Dead Sea scrolls of over 2,000 years ago Age of this document is calibrated at 35-324 BC and 202-107 BC thanks to method you claiming is false... and so on, not a single info of you post is true, stop spreading BS. Yeah, there's always an amusing love-hate relationship between BADlogic and carbon dating. He just cherrypicks when it works and when it doesn't, desperately trying to patch up his untenable beliefs. Young earth oddballs try desperately to instill doubt in carbon dating, yet if they paid a little more attention to what was going on they would discover, to their horror, that heat is their downfall. Earth could not of possibly cooled down quickly enough in their absurd timeframe. Heat we are talking about here is enough to easily boil all earths oceans to steam. Amusing.  |
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Had some savage sodomy last night.
The ground remains firm beneath our feet.
Seems God couldn't care less what you do, much to the annoyance of the angry homophobic religious folk. |
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Christians say things like, "God says homosexuality is a sin"... well... that's not what God said in the bible... God commands you to MURDER them... personally... God tells you to MURDER homosexuals (because for some reason he can't do it himself)... if you are not murdering them, you are not following God's command...
Your sky god is evil, don't do it!
God doesn't command anyone today to murder anyone. In O.T. times God commanded the people of Israel as a nation to kill certain groups of people. Your god is very fickle. What about tomorrow? Rather, He reacts in perfection, perfectly, to fickle, wicked humans. The wicked fickle ones he created, deliberately making them wicked and fickle, all the time knowing they would act wicked and fickle because he's omnipotent. Then gets angry because they act wicked and fickle. Sounds legit.  <typical BADlogic drivel response> Sounds like your banging your head against a wall. Considering Christian mythology has more holes than a colander, that's understandable. |
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Christians say things like, "God says homosexuality is a sin"... well... that's not what God said in the bible... God commands you to MURDER them... personally... God tells you to MURDER homosexuals (because for some reason he can't do it himself)... if you are not murdering them, you are not following God's command...
Your sky god is evil, don't do it!
God doesn't command anyone today to murder anyone. In O.T. times God commanded the people of Israel as a nation to kill certain groups of people. Your god is very fickle. What about tomorrow? Rather, He reacts in perfection, perfectly, to fickle, wicked humans. The wicked fickle ones he created, deliberately making them wicked and fickle, all the time knowing they would act wicked and fickle because he's omnipotent. Then gets angry because they act wicked and fickle. Sounds legit. |
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Christians say things like, "God says homosexuality is a sin"... well... that's not what God said in the bible... God commands you to MURDER them... personally... God tells you to MURDER homosexuals (because for some reason he can't do it himself)... if you are not murdering them, you are not following God's command...
Your sky god is evil, don't do it!
God doesn't command anyone today to murder anyone. In O.T. times God commanded the people of Israel as a nation to kill certain groups of people. Your god is very fickle. What about tomorrow? |
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