from 19€ to 6€ this year, less than 1/3 of ath, top-performer in that category, BUT if you believe in fairytales/stratis-lovers it is THE BEST coin out there, about to surpass ethereum hahaha fucking dillusional bunch of idiots
You must be super-new to crypto mate, 1/3 ATH doesn't even warrant a second look  |
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Hey everyone,
For the experienced traders here, I've watched quite a few vids but nothing really touches on this. How is it possible to trade Alts for more bitcoin, when the Alts are almost always weaker than Bitcoin and it is a few strange Alts which are in the green vs. Bitcoin.
I haven't had problems getting more Eth through trading Alts, but Bitcoin is just really tough. I noticed a good Alt is Monero which seems to get the upper hand on Bitcoin.
I have considered, doing a back and forth trading using USDT, where when Bitcoin is weaker than the dollar, I would buy with USDT, and when it gets higher, I sell.
Any advice?
If you're an experienced trader, you should know the answer to this already. There are periods where Bitcoin is very strong, and there are period where the alts rally a 100% a day. We're in the former period now, the latter was the case in say Nov 2017 or so. There's a reason there's the HODL meme in Bitcoin. If you don't know what you're doing, which seems to be the case here, you are just much better off holding BTC instead of trading. |
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NEM isn't done tanking yet. Don't buy now. I'm under water since last month as well. Thought $0.55 was a fair price but didn't account for the incompetence of Lon Wong. The guy is a disaster.
just to understand better...how do you know this? Can you tell us more about the incompetence of Lon Wong? what right now he's doing so wrong? What price will be a good price to buy? When will the storm be over? The dump isn't over because the exchange Huobi still hasn't allowed deposits yet - once they open there doors NEM isn't going to be $0.45 anymore over there. If BTC takes off from here all alts are going to bleed anyway so then the people that are still holding XEM and have already taken a large hit are going to see that as a painful opportunity cost and dump some more. If BTC corrects to 6K again then everything is going down hard. Basically BTC has to sit still or creep up to give XEM any chance to recover and this would have to be a substantial period - not the style of BTC as of late. Lon Wong made a terrible decision in tainting wallets and individual coins. He basically demonstrated that XEM is not fungibile and the Foundation will intervene at any time in situations they do not consider ethical. This is not their place because with a true currency people should be able to acquire it and dispose of it however they see fit - NEM Foundation isn't the proper authority to be governing this. This is a law enforcement matter and while I would agree with NEM Foundation cooperating with an investigation they shouldn't try to be the law. It gives the impression that if they don't agree with a project or business using XEM they could start throwing up roadblocks on those wallets and/or tokens that pass through them. It is a slippery slope and anti-crypto in many ways. The coins were tainted because they were stolen. Its a bit of a leap to compare that to intervening in unethical situations or throwing up roadblocks on projects they don't agree with. The tainted coins are obviously still being traded. Its similar in my view to inking stolen cash from a bank. Other coins have succumbed to pressure and forked after similar losses. I think they deserved at lot of praise for not going down this route. Sure the coin is going to lose value during this phase but we all knew that when the theft occurred and could have sold and bought back at the bottom. No point in bitching after the fact Yes there is a point. So every single time XEM gets stolen in a project that could last decades with a finite supply of coins there will be new tainted coins in circulation? What kind of idiocy is that? In theory 100% of the circulating supply could become tainted. Who decides when to untaint and "you're legit." See the problem? That actually is a fair point that i had not considered. I guess the decision was rushed when the pressure came on to fork and wasn't thought through properly. In the end the tainting worked out to be relatively ineffective so i don't see a repeat. Any tainting attempt is a one-shot attempt. If it proves to be unsuccessful, as it did in this case, then you can forget about it. End of the day, it is just an asset being created on the NEM blockchain and distributed to several addresses. By itself, without everyone agreeing to what it means, it means nothing really. |
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Things are pretty ugly with no signs on the horizon of improving. We've now given up 100% of the gains from Dec and Jan. And going the wrong way fast.
I know we were bitching about how stagnant things were between Aug to Nov, but were generally trending upward in that time. It seems now we're going straight into the shitter with no signs of slowing. That hack was the worst thing to have happened. Who knows if we'll ever see $2 again. If things don't reverse it'll be a long while, if ever. We're losing a ton of market share while tmc is going upward.
When the tmc was 250b we were 2x from where we are now. Now it's 450b and we're below .35 cents.
All the charts are pointing toward the toilet..
Hopefully things change for the better.
It wasn't the hack that did it - it was this incredibly dumbass idea of tainting coins and wallets. Lon Wong is one stupid, arrogant, callous motherfucker basically. It is hard to know what the cause of the market downturn is. It may be what you're saying, it may be the hack, or just general market weakness, although NEM has fallen much more than other alts and BTC. That being said, there are catalysts like Catapult on the horizon, so something to look forward to. |
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Seems like a fair heuristic, it isn't the parameters of the PoS though. The actual stake depends on how many other coins are staking along with yours. |
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Very few would have done it. Either people abandoned their stakes, i.e. never claimed them, and then come to these forums to complain, or they claimed it and sold out a long time ago. Doubt many people made a conscious decision to hodl since that day though, if they did it is likely accidental. |
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I am happy stratis is a little higher now, I am very patient person because I hold until ICO ended, you see I am long term investor, I am a big winner.  I will hold Stratis tokens like Gluon and Beyond. Do you mean you plan to buy tokens of Gluon and Beyond? They are not airdropped, you know that right? You won't get those tokens unless you spend your Stratis to acquire them. |
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good to see iconomi bouncing back. its about time that @TEAM announce something regarding the use of ICN
Yeah once can hope. They claimed a use many months ago but we haven't seen anything yet. It is rough seeing their assets under management increase and the team getting paid really well while the ICN price lags. Per their original whitepaper, ICN holders 'own' the company and all that. |
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If you're doing such analysis, it is important to be fair if you want to be taken seriously. I think you've done a good job overall except a couple of places. For example, you mention NEM has 'Very Wide Area of Use' whereas Ethereum, by its nature, would have a wider area of use because its smart contracts are Turing Complete. But good job with the video! |
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There are many good news realase about bitcoin and even chinese new year also finished why bitcoin is not stable yet.when will it start to stable
That's not how markets work. They are cyclical by nature, especially a market like Bitcoin, which is primarily driven by human emotion and widespread acceptance. Bitcoin was, after all, quite valuable at a tenth of its price as it is now. Markets driven by human nature are speculative by nature, and will see ups and downs. They cannot correlate with the news cycle, which is necessarily backward looking while the markets are forward looking. |
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I really hope Stratis will have a big boom in 2018, we can't go up after last ATH in June of 2017, it is time to re-hit ATH and break a new high point. I am trying to be the richest investor in my country because I am ICO investor.
Stratis will shine this year just be patient. It will get its place like Eth and then the early adopters will smile all the way. Price of Stratis depends on rest of the crypto market. If the market recovers, likely Stratis will too. You don't know if that will happen this year though. |
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Hi. Do you have airdrop?
Airdrop for what it doesn't make any sense to do this kind of promo at this stage. Bancor is established project this going very successful. If you received any kind of email or message regarding airdrop than ignore this and don't send any personal details. In the project before the ICO, there was an excellent bounty. Participants then received a lot of tokens. Sorry at that time I did not know about the bancor. This was only partly true. For example, to pay out less in development/bug bounties, the BNT team issued a number of the bounty tokens just before the bounty period closed. People trust you less when you do things like that. |
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The merit system will not provide the expected return of good quality post just because the newbies won't help anyone as they are newbies and not very knowledgeable, and the old-school guys with higher ranks doesn't need the merit points to rank up anymore (Legendary ranks) or they don't need too (Full Members, Sr.Members or Hero Members), because they don't participate in the signatures campaigns as they have made some money from crypto since they are higher ranks. I'm speaking here about the majority as there are exceptions, of course. In my opinion the merit system is kind of useless for the forum quality posts, but it is what it is. My 2 cents!
Instead of half-assed justifications of why this wouldn't work, I'd rather see some data that proves it won't work. My hunch is that it greatly helps reduce useless posts. As Bitcoin taught us, it is all about incentives. I am happy to be proven wrong, but with a strong argument or something backed by real data, not musings. |
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Luck, English ability, and what kind people are browsing. I do not have all of the above.  Yes, it is all about luck and English, and not about Content. Keep telling yourself that. If you really want Merit, provide value to the thread or discussion. Stop telling yourself it is because of your English or luck or that people don't care about your topic. Yes, they won't care if you just post derivative drivel. Point me, right now, to 5 of your most constructive posts that you think deserve Merit. I'll review them independent of your English ability. I understand there are some here who are more insistent on English ability and such, but that's a minority. Most people care about getting value from discussions here. Are you providing that? |
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Mate, this is a joke: We will build value with our token as the platform grows in adoption. The tokens are not only used as a payment/settlement protocol, but also for fees associated with running the sidechains such as emissions, records and loyalty incentives.
All cryptocurrency payments and settlements within the platform will need to utilize $GLU for securing records into the blockchain or to conduct settlement/payments between parties.
It is basically saying, just trust us by giving us a lot of money, we'll make it work in the future. This is ridiculous and shows everything wrong with the ICO market today. I am sad to see Stratis participating in this madness and that too as the first ICO on the platform. Nothing described here requires a token or a decentralized network. It is just a blatant money grab, and I am sure you know it too. Also, the whole market and its adoption is far far away from using a cryptocurrency. Even if they end up using a cryptocurrency, it is highly unlikely to be Gluon. Even if they somehow end up using Gluon, it will just never be used for payments, given the thin market and low monetary base. The entire thing just sounds fishy. I like Stratis project and its sidechains. I think the project has very good potential in helping the whole ecosystem. I would much rather see the team focus its efforts on the Masternode and TumbleBit rather than trying to go after low quality ICOs that just don't make sense. There is a goodwill in the community that Stratis has, e.g. with Nicolas Dorier. It should use that to build a better product, not trying to endorse a random ICO. |
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Anyone got a link to the original stakeholders list. A search just reveals the list that Utopianfuture posted which is no longer there.
tks
What specifically are you looking for? Are you looking for the NEM initially distributed at launch? |
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I like following taas investments only that I'm not a whale to be considered a spot in the presale and offered huge discounts/bonuses. This is a major reason why the fund has excelled. I'm anticipating next quarter's dividends. Anybody hoping for $0.5 per Taas token?  Due to the market downturn, it is likely that the next quarter dividend will be much smaller than the last quarter. |
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NEM was great for the early investors but it hasn't done anything in terms of bitcoin value for 8 months. Might as well just invest in bitcoin.
You want NEM to outperform Bitcoin in every arbitrary time period of your choosing? Last year NEM was one of the best performing crypto projects. See here https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/12/18/3-cryptocurrencies-that-outperformed-ethereum-in-2.aspxThe current downtread is mainly caused by the hack. $500 million is a huge amount of coins. The hacker is trying to sell the coins and this caused the dump. Crazy how much some potential sell pressure can put down a great project like this.. I'm still hoping the hackers somehow reach out to coincheck and work out a deal to return the coins. It seems unlikely a deal with be struck at this stage. The NEM foundation tried to track the stolen funds, but that seems to have been a wasted effort and the coins seem to be moving around freely. In the absence of leverage, the hacker is just probably going to sell those coins instead of trying to strike a deal with the exchange. |
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NEM was great for the early investors but it hasn't done anything in terms of bitcoin value for 8 months. Might as well just invest in bitcoin.
You want NEM to outperform Bitcoin in every arbitrary time period of your choosing? 8 months is an eternity in this market It's not the length, it is the arbitrary choosing of a time frame. You must be new here and don't really understand how these markets work. There are times when NEM will outperform and times when it will underperform Bitcoin. This has been going on literally since Day 0 and will continue to be the case into the future. If you cannot stomach that, I suggest get out of NEM and other cryptos. This is not unique to NEM. |
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Give the team more time, smart contract and the secret project need more time to implement, and one is sidechain implementation will be another awesome thing.
Agree, onе оf thе most imроrtаnt thing iѕ whеthеr there iѕ a gооd development tеаm behind thе сrурtосurrеnсу аnd hоw асtivе it iѕ. The activity can be always measured via github About activity on github. Someone analyze, please. And let us know. I am personally interested in the opinion of professionals. Did you check their github before your comment? Here, let me help you out: https://github.com/stratisproject |
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