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341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why I'm an atheist on: August 10, 2018, 02:34:12 AM
Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.

Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult.  I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is.  They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.

Why is it so obvious to everyone that Scientology, Mormons, etc are bullshit cults, but they can't see it in their own religion?
342  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who is more wicked? God or Satan on: August 10, 2018, 02:31:14 AM
Only stupid people believe in gods and demons without evidence
343  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 10, 2018, 02:29:23 AM
When someone proves a scientific theory incorrect, they win a Nobel Prize...  Where is your Nobel Prize?
344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 07, 2018, 05:20:27 AM
Wow.. I haven't been here in years and BADLogic still hasn't bothered to spend 5 minutes researching evolution yet?

I can't seriously believe someone has endless hours to "debate" an issue they know nothing about... that's insane
345  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who is more wicked? God or Satan on: August 07, 2018, 03:42:31 AM
If you are going to compare wickedness, you need a way to measure such a concept.  There are few things we can all agree are wicked besides murder, so let's use murder as a way to compare god vs satan

Throughout the entire bible, Satan is only blamed with killing Job's family, and only because god had a bet with Satan and taunted him into it.

God is blamed with the murder of millions and millions of people:

The great flood
The tower of babel
Sodom and Gomorrah
The 7th & 10th plagues of Egypt

Someone actually made a list if you are interested.  They estimate god's murder tally at nearly 25,000,000 people at 158 occasions

https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

Going by the the raw numbers - 10:24,994,828 - God is 249,948,280% more wicked than Satan
346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: July 17, 2018, 12:36:42 PM
347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people like Trump? on: October 06, 2017, 12:53:11 PM
348  Other / Politics & Society / Rich people golfing as the world burns on: September 07, 2017, 03:52:53 PM
Seems to sum up the current situation on the planet quite well

349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nationalist Socialism on the rise in the United States on: August 30, 2017, 05:09:32 AM
Whatever way you look at it, Nationalist Socialism is winning. The former grand head of the KKK, a rampant nationalist socialist, has endorsed and recently thanked Trump for everything he has done for white supremacists.

That's the right wing. What about the left wing? Well, you have people like Sanders, Clinton, etc who believe in nationalist socialism.

You are conflating two completely different political ideologies...

Nationalist Socialism (aka Nazism), is Fascism and far-right-wing political ideology... "Usually characterized as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism"... it is not socialist in the slightest (I know, names are confusing, usually on purpose)

Democratic Socialism (like Sanders), is a mid-left-wing ideology... "Democratic socialism is a political ideology that advocates political democracy alongside social ownership of the means of production, often with an emphasis on democratic management of enterprises within a socialist economic system"

Clinton is neither of these, Clinton is an Oligarch ("Moderate" ideology)... she definitely does not believe in any form of socialism

Please do not confuse Fascism with Socialism... these are diametrically opposed ideas... Fascism is equivalent to a king owning everything and ruling by decree (North Korea), whereas Socialism is essentially democracy with social/public ownership of production/infrastructure

350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 26, 2017, 04:18:58 PM
First of all, I really disagree with this theory, I am not also a considerate to any perspective of anybody,
In the Perspective of the bible that GOD created man in His own likeness so that it means that when Adam an eve were created they were spiritual beings, they were happy on their state because they actually have everything but in some point they have committed Sin, which says that all of human beings committed sin, correct me if I am wrong, now my point is.
this is my own perspective, evolution is hoax, for me we do really have spirit, think about this can a monkey praise GOD? can a Monkey invent new things that is usuable in it's group? NO because animal doesn't have spirit and they don't have their own will to do such things, How did they evolve in such a thousand years, then how is ther still a monkey?

I'll allow this meme to explain (because it's funny)



You see?

If we all came from the same 2 people, shouldn't we all be the same color? (unless some of us have evolved differently)
351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Evolution is a hoax on: August 26, 2017, 04:07:25 PM


All evidence points towards evolution, but some people refuse to accept it
352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians think they are the most persecuted religious group... lol on: August 26, 2017, 02:56:40 PM

There is zero evidence that "Jesus" ever existed... even as a normal person, non-god

The guy was a carpenter for 30 years and not a single person saved a table/desk/chair/door or anything made by Jesus?!?

Not a single person wrote about Jesus within 30 years of his death... not one... zero contemporary historians wrote about Jesus... zero eye-witnesses wrote about Jesus... many of the writings containing the name Jesus have been proven forgeries (ex. Flavius Josephus' Testimonium has an added paragraph about Jesus around 300AD... 200+ years after it was written... obvious forgery)

There have been books written by well-educated scholars disputing the historicity of this Jesus character (i.e., claiming he never existed)
https://www.amazon.com/On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt
I mean... 700 pages... pretty much proving Jesus never existed (as well as you can prove a negative like "god doesn't exist")

I obviousely can't read the whole book, but as far as I can see the description, the author doesn't claim to have proven that Jesus has never excisted, but tells that we need more evidence before we can accept that he really excisted.

Also, most people who have knowledge in this area, agree that the historicity of Jesus is 'effectively certain'. Read this on a.o. Wikipedia. I know Wikipedia is not a good source on itself, but that site has some great references as well.


For example: Michael Grant (a classicist) states that
Quote
In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus, or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary

FYI, Wikipedia is the most accurate source of encyclopedic information on the planet... there is no better source for accurate information... only a complete idiot trash-talks Wikipedia (for some reason 100% of Wikipedia haters are Christians... coincidence?... perhaps you simply hate science and truth, not Wikipedia itself?)

Perhaps if you spent more time reading Wikipedia, you could spell words properly... seriously, 3 spelling errors in your first sentence?

As I already stated, there IS ZERO NON-BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR JESUS

There is NONE... PERIOD

If you have some evidence, link a source

The lack of evidence implies non-existence...

There is no evidence for unicorns, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for leprechauns, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for gremlins, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for faeries, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for Jesus, because he didn't exist

Please take a look at this website: https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/jesus-historical-jesus/did-jesus-exist/

Even if no one wrote about him (which is not the case), that still wouldn't proof the idea that Jesus didn't exist.

Ok, I've explained this twice already, so I'll do it one last time

You cannot prove Jesus didn't exist

You cannot prove ANYTHING doesn't exist

Can you prove there is not an invisible pink unicorn floating over your house?
No... you CANT

How could anyone possibly prove that Jesus never existed?  This is not something that can be "proven"... but, as I stated, THE LACK OF EVIDENCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF... ZERO EVIDENCE IMPLIES NON-EXISTENCE!!! (just like leprechauns, faeries, etc)

Just because a book mentions unicorns, or leprechauns, or some guy named Jesus... doesn't mean they exist... you must PROVE they exist... it is not up to me to prove they DONT exist, that's stupid (and impossible)

Lastly, I am familiar with christian "sources"... according to your link:
"Tacitus’s last major work, titled Annals, written c. 116–117 C.E"
Ok... so Jesus supposedly died in 33AD, and this was written 83 years later... ...
Do you think this person was an eye-witness to Jesus?
How old was he when he met Jesus, 30? (83 years + 30 = 113 years old)
How well do you remember events that happened 83 years ago?

As far as I'm concerned... if nobody wrote about Jesus within 5 years of his death... it's all bullshit make-believe fairy-tales
How do you have so many quotes from Jesus if the earliest gospel was written 40 years after Jesus died?
Can you really remember quotes, word for word... 40-100 years later?!?!? (I can barely remember what people told me last week!)
353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians think they are the most persecuted religious group... lol on: August 26, 2017, 02:31:26 PM

There is zero evidence that "Jesus" ever existed... even as a normal person, non-god

The guy was a carpenter for 30 years and not a single person saved a table/desk/chair/door or anything made by Jesus?!?

Not a single person wrote about Jesus within 30 years of his death... not one... zero contemporary historians wrote about Jesus... zero eye-witnesses wrote about Jesus... many of the writings containing the name Jesus have been proven forgeries (ex. Flavius Josephus' Testimonium has an added paragraph about Jesus around 300AD... 200+ years after it was written... obvious forgery)

There have been books written by well-educated scholars disputing the historicity of this Jesus character (i.e., claiming he never existed)
https://www.amazon.com/On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt
I mean... 700 pages... pretty much proving Jesus never existed (as well as you can prove a negative like "god doesn't exist")

I obviousely can't read the whole book, but as far as I can see the description, the author doesn't claim to have proven that Jesus has never excisted, but tells that we need more evidence before we can accept that he really excisted.

Also, most people who have knowledge in this area, agree that the historicity of Jesus is 'effectively certain'. Read this on a.o. Wikipedia. I know Wikipedia is not a good source on itself, but that site has some great references as well.


For example: Michael Grant (a classicist) states that
Quote
In recent years, 'no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non historicity of Jesus, or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary

FYI, Wikipedia is the most accurate source of encyclopedic information on the planet... there is no better source for accurate information... only a complete idiot trash-talks Wikipedia (for some reason 100% of Wikipedia haters are Christians... coincidence?... perhaps you simply hate science and truth, not Wikipedia itself?)

Perhaps if you spent more time reading Wikipedia, you could spell words properly... seriously, 3 spelling errors in your first sentence?

As I already stated, there IS ZERO NON-BIBLICAL EVIDENCE FOR JESUS

There is NONE... PERIOD

If you have some evidence, link a source

"the author doesn't claim to have proven that Jesus has never excisted(sp)"  (you can't "prove" non-existence, don't be an idiot)
The lack of evidence implies non-existence...

There is no evidence for unicorns, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for leprechauns, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for gremlins, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for bigfoot, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for faeries, because they don't exist
There is no evidence for Jesus, because he didn't exist
354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians think they are the most persecuted religious group... lol on: August 26, 2017, 02:00:24 PM
2017?
That is such a weird number, I wonder where we got it from. Was it 2017 years since Earth existed, since humans existed, since we figured out medicine or agriculture?

It's the number of years since their christian god was born.  

2000 years later, we know no such god ever existed.  But what do we do?  Change the year?
Don't want to go off topic here, but there was a guy who lived 2000 years ago, who was in fact Jesus from Nazareth, so '2017 after Christ' is still corect (since Jesus is also called Christ).

Now wheter or not he was a God, is a different matter.

There is zero evidence that "Jesus" ever existed... even as a normal person, non-god

The guy was a carpenter for 30 years and not a single person saved a table/desk/chair/door or anything made by Jesus?!?

Not a single person wrote about Jesus within 30 years of his death... not one... zero contemporary historians wrote about Jesus... zero eye-witnesses wrote about Jesus... many of the writings containing the name Jesus have been proven forgeries (ex. Flavius Josephus' Testimonium has an added paragraph about Jesus around 300AD... 200+ years after it was written... obvious forgery)

There have been books written by well-educated scholars disputing the historicity of this Jesus character (i.e., claiming he never existed)
https://www.amazon.com/On the Historicity of Jesus: Why We Might Have Reason for Doubt
I mean... 700 pages... pretty much proving Jesus never existed (as well as you can prove a negative like "god doesn't exist")
355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll: If god commanded you to murder homosexuals, would you? on: August 26, 2017, 01:53:19 PM
God can not command to kill someone, even if it's a homosexual. This is some kind of wrong religion in which God himself destroys all that he created. He loves everyone and wants them to go the right way.

You can say that god never kills anyone. But the followers of various religions (especially those from the Semitic religions) have killed hundreds of millions of people during the last two millennium. Even now, religion is the primary cause for warfare and genocide.

According to the bible, God kills millions of people too... there was that great flood that killed everyone on the planet except 9 people... Sodom and Gomorrah... Lot's family... the 10th plague where God kills every first-born male, both humans and animals (note: they were innocent of any crimes)

Speaking of passover... why did God need the Israelites to paint blood on their doors?  Does God not know who his followers are without a bloody door? Or... could it be... that God doesn't exist, and the Israelites themselves went around at night murdering anyone without blood on their door, and claiming "God did it"?

356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christians think they are the most persecuted religious group... lol on: August 26, 2017, 01:44:10 PM
Well.. 54% is a tiny majority, but if they are Trump supporters that explains everything. What always surprises me with these religions is, if your God is so wonderful, why is there so much suffering in the world? Why would you want to believe in and follow such a hateful entity? It makes little sense, if there was a God, surely they would spread love and happiness to everything?

What about the 77% of the Hillary voters who think that Muslims are the most persecuted group? 99.99% of the religion-based terrorism is of Islamic nature, and even then these guys claims that Muslims are discriminated against?

Well, Muslims are the most persecuted group on the planet... except for perhaps Jews, but they are dicks... look at what the Jews are doing to Palestinians in the Gaza strip... 1 hour of electricity per day?!?  wtf is that shit?!?

You are simply wrong claiming 99% of terrorism is Islamic... it's not... according to the FBI, there are WAY more right-wing terror attacks in America than attacks from Islamists...
Most Terrorists in the U.S. Are Right Wing, Not Muslim: Report
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/u-s-sees-300-violent-attacks-inspired-far-right-every-year/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_terrorism

This is a proven fact... more attacks are done by right-wing Christians in America than Muslims... things like bombing abortion clinics... that's a christian, not a muslim

Part of the problem is, not all of them are reported as terror attacks... a Nazi ran 20 people over with his car in Charlottesville, and NOBODY is calling it terrorism... but a Muslim did the exact same thing in Barcelona, and everyone calls it terrorism
357  Other / Politics & Society / Christians think they are the most persecuted religious group... lol on: August 24, 2017, 05:21:20 PM
New poll shows the majority of Trump voters (mostly christians) think Christians are more discriminated against than Jews or Muslims...
(note: nobody even asked if Atheists were discriminated against... just saying)

Wow... just wow... how deluded can you be?



How exactly are christians being discriminated against?  Are they forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding? No... Are they forced to have abortions? No... Are they a minority? No...

In a country of 80% christians... they still think they are being discriminated against?!?  CHRISTIANS HOLD ALL POWER IN GOVERNMENT AND WRITE ALL THE LAWS!!!

WTF?!?!?!?

Why do christians have such a victim complex?
358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts and prayers on: August 20, 2017, 02:42:00 PM


It's just your opinion.
Prayers are more internal reflection and inner talk between our spirit self and spiritual world, not something what can fulfill your wishes right away.
If your wishes are selfish, don't expect that someone will help you and fulfill it for you.
Spiritually we are like small children or babies and our wishes are often immature and selfish.
When we invest more in our spiritual growth, we become more mature and more close to God's hearth and love.
Only than we will see fulfillment of our prayers.

Just my opinion?  God only answers unselfish prayers?

LOL

Try praying for an amputee to regrow his legs back... let me know when god fails to answer you unselfish prayer
359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity and Genocidal Violence on: August 20, 2017, 02:34:11 PM
I find it sad that the best response christians have to their religion committing genocide is:
"But (some other group) does it too!"

Always blaming other people... when will it stop?

Who do you blame for the genocide of the village of a forum member by christians?

Being a religious Hindu, who had to flee his hometown to defend his religious views, I have to disagree with you. We take out religious processions in the public, as a message to the Christians that despite committing genocide against us, they can't force us to abandon our religion.

I honestly didn't realize groups of Christians are still committing genocide (other than USA bombing/invading countries)... I thought that ended with the dark ages, crusades, inquisition, witch hunts and slavery

How long ago did they attack your village?

Happened almost two decades back. My people are still living in refugee camps in inhumane conditions. They can go back to their villages only if they are ready to convert to Christianity. The biggest joke is that all this happening in a country which is having a Hindu majority. Check this:

https://www.hindujagruti.org/news/15525.html
360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Philosophy on: August 20, 2017, 02:23:51 PM
Fascism (including all flavors; Nazism, Communism, Islam, and so on); because there're limits for what and how far you can go on stuck your nose into other people's affairs! Making it worse, most of fascists and similar ideologies believe to have an "one-size fits all" response for all humanity issues, making them far more of a problem than a solution.

I have to point out that communism is the opposite of fascism

Fascism is defined as:
Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Communism is not characterized by authoritarian nationalism, dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, or government control of industry (public ownership is not the same as government/dictatorial ownership)

Fascism is far right-wing on the political spectrum

Communism is far left-wing on the political spectrum



These ideas are diametrically opposed

You cannot simply lump all the things you don't like into a single category... that's not how philosophy works
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