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1341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 12, 2016, 01:40:43 AM


It's the gays that are getting together to fight non-gays, just so that they can prove themselves a minority, get funds from government, and make Christians and others support them. Why should Christians support fags? Let them support themselves.


Christians do this too, so is it  bad thing or not a bad thing? Why should everyone support Christians?
 

Percentage wise Christians almost don't do this. But it is one of the major activities of gays.

For Christians it is a little mistake. For gays, it is a lifestyle.

The only option for an oppressed minority is to band together and fight their oppressors...

If Christians quit oppressing them, they probably wouldn't have a reason to fight back...
1342  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: April 12, 2016, 12:28:44 AM
Poor Trump..

Colorado just handed all 34 delegates to Cruz without a vote...

I don't like Trump, but that's beat up... Where is the democracy?

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSmVvqK9TbY
1343  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The DEA Will Soon Decide Whether it Will Reschedule Marijuana on: April 11, 2016, 08:35:35 PM
part of the problem is u.n. agreements signed by federal gov'ts prohibiting it being legal, except under "controlled substances acts" , they have no choice now but to lower its classification, and foot drag, the biggest dr's group  in California will no longer testify as experts for federal govt eliminating the propaganda that's been peddled by big pharma over the years and the reefer madness crowd,   since Terry parker vs Regina in Canada (grand mal seizures stopped/for long periods of time to almost never) backed by 3 experts who testified they had no treatment that came close to being as effective) governments are forced to recognize legit uses for pot, now in mexico over last year or two a few cases have been won (at least 2) by non-pot smokers as having the human right to possess, grow and use pot, a few more cases (need 5) won and it really will allow that case to be made everywhere. Best way around all this is to appeal to U.N. to abolish all related prohibitions under human rights cases

Don't worry about the UN... they are fighting the same battle this year...

I hear there is a list of dozens of countries who plan to speak out against marijuana prohibition at the next UN meeting

http://www.ibtimes.com/marijuana-legalization-un-prepares-tackle-world-drug-problem-again-will-cannabis-laws-2334526
1344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 11, 2016, 08:30:37 PM
Almost the only reason why anyone is an atheist is, he wants to be. Proof for God is all around us in nature, and is available in science, and is even available in the ways that atheists suggest that there is no God.

There might be slight chance that there is an honest atheist who isn't knowledgeable enough about science or nature to understand that God exists. But the knowledgeable people who suggest that they are atheists, do so simply because they think that they would like to be atheistic, at the same time that they know that atheism is completely incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

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Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It can take the form of blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's negative qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.
1345  Other / Politics & Society / Is Donald Trump A Racist or a Bigot? (uncensored) on: April 11, 2016, 08:05:10 PM
Since self-moderated topics are used simply to push a personal opinion, and delete the facts...

I have created this new topic about Donald Trump's racism and bigotry, where your posts will not be deleted



1) “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/aug/06/donald-trump/trump-mexican-government-they-send-bad-ones-over/
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Wallace asked Trump, "What evidence do you have, specific evidence, that the Mexican government is sending criminals across the border?"

Trump cited conversations with "border patrol people" who told him that it was true: "Our leaders are stupid, our politicians are stupid, and the Mexican government is much smarter, much sharper, much more cunning, and they send the bad ones over because they don't want to pay for them, they don't want to take care of them. Why should they, when the stupid leaders of the United States will do it for them?And that’s what’s happening, whether you like it or not."



2a) “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Just knock the hell–” "I'll pay for the legal fees"
2b) "I love the old days, you know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out in a stretcher, folks. Oh, it’s true.”

Trump: Knock The Crap Out Of Them, I’ll Pay For Lawsuits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dBaaK15NDE

Trump on protester: 'I’d like to punch him in the face'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/donald-trump-punch-protester-219655

Donald Trump justifies use of violence against rally protesters: Supporters should ‘swing back’
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/11/donald-trump-defends-use-of-violence-against-rally/



3) "He lined up to 50 people and they shot 49 of those people and to the 50th person, he said, 'You go back to your people. And you tell them what happened'"  "For 25 years there wasn't a problem. OK. Twenty-five years, there wasn't a problem..."

Donald Trump praises US general who shot Muslims with bullets dipped in pig's blood - but story is false
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-praises-general-who-7407513



4) 'Get him out and confiscate his coat': Trump orders security to kick protester out into the freezing -10° cold
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3391764/Trump-orders-security-confiscate-protester-s-coat.html
1346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why am I an atheist? on: April 11, 2016, 05:38:51 PM
I knew a junkie that said he flied every night on a horse through the skies.

One of the biggest surprises of his life was when he saw a horse at a time he wasn't high: it had no wings! This seems to be enough evidence that he was sincerely convinced that he indeed flied on a horse every night and was telling the truth.

Therefore, under the burden of evidence used by some of the believers that post on this thread, it seems that it's scientifically proven that flying horses do exist.

Definitely sounds like BADlogic
1347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Christianity is Poison on: April 11, 2016, 06:00:48 AM
I'm not sure this kid is old enough to be preaching religious hatred... seems a bit like brainwashing at that age...

1348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 11, 2016, 04:18:37 AM
Would you like to debate any specific point I have made?

Or will you continue making yourself look foolish for a 7th consecutive post?
1349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 11, 2016, 04:07:52 AM
I simply pointed out that you are doing nothing but denegrating me, rather than my claims and presented fact and arguments

And for a fifth post in a row, you prove me correct
1350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:37:59 PM
I'm done with this nonsense...

All anyone has done is call me names because they disagree with the facts which I have presented

Not a single person has tried to debate me over anything... simply calling me names, labels, etc

Stupid trolls ruin the discussion for everyone

Only a great fool hates that which he does not understand... like religion... or picking a favorite sports team... or political team...

It's so easy to hate "the other" when you are ignorant of their position/beliefs

Oh please. You're an incompetent moron.

Yeah I just called you a fucking name. Why don't you read all my previous posts that I wrote. They all had points in which you could've provided rebuttals yet you didn't. I wonder why.

Maybe it's because you just want to suck ALL the money for yourself because you think that government will work better when it funds money to YOU. Sorry, that's not how it works.

Stop saying you know everything and no one knows anything and read a fucking history book. Everyone who lives with socialized medicine HATES it. Free college tuition is a joke. Socialism doesn't work.

This is the problem with leftists (because you hate it when I say liberal). You're all too fragile to handle a tough debate and need a safe space. All my posts were fine yet you rebutted them with shit saying I didn't know what I was talking about. Grow the fuck up.

Can't wait for Trump to win.

Are you done attacking a straw-man?  I didn't say any of that...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.

The so-called typical "attacking a straw man" argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition by covertly replacing it with a different proposition (i.e. "stand up a straw man") and then to refute or defeat that false argument ("knock down a straw man") instead of the original proposition.

This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged emotional issues where a fiery, entertaining "battle" and the defeat of an "enemy" may be more valued than critical thinking or understanding both sides of the issue.


If anyone should feel obliged to call people names, it's me... yet I don't... why do you think that is?

How can you possibly claim something like, "Everyone who lives with socialized medicine HATES it"?  Not only is this untrue, it shows you haven't bothered to research the subject... It also shows you are ignorant enough to believe that a large group of people could ever agree on anything...
1351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:27:51 PM
I'm done with this nonsense...

All anyone has done is call me names because they disagree with the facts which I have presented

Not a single person has tried to debate me over anything... simply calling me names, labels, etc

Stupid trolls ruin the discussion for everyone

Only a great fool hates that which he does not understand... like religion... or picking a favorite sports team... or political team...

It's so easy to hate "the other" when you are ignorant of their position/beliefs
1352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:23:48 PM
Socialism is a FAILED system that has never proven to work, not once.


Do some research... simply do a little research before talking about things you don't understand... you look stupid when you make false claims like this as your opening sentence

Something is not true simply because you believe it to be true...

Something is not true simply because you refuse to look at the facts

Something is not true simply because you ignore the evidence

You do not define reality... sorry, you are wrong

The amount of bigotry, hypocrisy and double standards that exists inside of you Liberals is baffling.

Who is a Liberal?

Why do you label people you disagree with, "Liberal"?

Have I made any points that are even "liberal" oriented?

Do you understand the liberal position at all?

Do you understand any position besides your own?

I could see you calling me a socialist, but liberal?!?

I must repeat this. GO TO VENEZUELA. GO TO CUBA. LIVE THERE. Let's see how much you like "Democratic Socialism" after you've been robbed of your soul after being there for less than a month.

The problem is... you still don't understand simple things...

Like, both Venezuela and Cuba are communist, not socialist...

Also, read my previous post (right above yours) about how this is not evidence of anything
1353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:21:10 PM
The fact that the only evidence anyone has used to support their claim that socialism is bad... is...

"A lot of socialist countries have failed"...

Simply shows... you don't have a clue what you are talking about...

1) You ignore the socialist countries that are doing well

2) You wrongly assume that the reason the country failed is "because of socialism"

This simply shows you have not bothered to research the details of the collapse of any country ever... It is never "because of socialism", and always because of corruption in some form or another...

Do some bloody research before spreading false propaganda
1354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
Socialism is a FAILED system that has never proven to work, not once.


Do some research... simply do a little research before talking about things you don't understand... you look stupid when you make false claims like this as your opening sentence

Something is not true simply because you believe it to be true...

Something is not true simply because you refuse to look at the facts

Something is not true simply because you ignore the evidence

You do not define reality... sorry, you are wrong

The amount of bigotry, hypocrisy and double standards that exists inside of you Liberals is baffling.

Who is a Liberal?

Why do you label people you disagree with, "Liberal"?

Have I made any points that are even "liberal" oriented?

Do you understand the liberal position at all?

Do you understand any position besides your own?

I could see you calling me a socialist, but liberal?!?
1355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:10:17 PM
I say this because it's true...

You are still going on and on about me, rather than the argument which I presented


The differences between the systems are minor, and no country is just one or the other, all countries are a mixture of socialism and capitalism

Furthermore, the countries which are better or worse have little to do with economic policy and everything to do with corruption

The problems tend to lie with individual people, rather than any problem inherent in either system of governance

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely


The downfall of EU has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with countries like Greece and religion...

The countries which do the best are the most secular (non-religious)... America just happens to be in that category... it's success has more to do with secularism than capitalism

Please quote any alleged personal attacks.
As far as I can tell you aren't providing any evidence yourself, you are just producing more rhetoric. Why don't you try debating me instead of arguing with those guys? I noticed you haven't bothered to respond to anything I have said. Are you afraid you can't hang?

Edit: He sure got quiet pretty fast didn't he?

Are you still defending your stance of, "I'm not making ad-hominem attacks", by talking about me and only me... in a 4th consecutive post?

Are you daft?

Did you even bother to look up ad-hominem?

Here's a link for you... please read it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

PS. I don't troll forums all day... sorry... I don't show up whenever you cry wolf... that's not how this works
1356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:07:58 PM
Socialism already lost and its capitalism's turn

You have that backwards...

Capitalism ran the planet for 70 years... it's done... it's over... capitalism failed

China... China is the new world leader... and China is... ... ... Socialist!
1357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism Is Jewish Usury on: April 10, 2016, 06:04:05 PM
Bernie Sanders confronted with 'Jewish Zionist' question at Town Hall in New York (4-9-16)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgdfhFbsX9A
1358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:02:42 PM
Socialism is a FAILED system that has never proven to work, not once.


Do some research... simply do a little research before talking about things you don't understand... you look stupid when you make false claims like this as your opening sentence

Something is not true simply because you believe it to be true...

Something is not true simply because you refuse to look at the facts

Something is not true simply because you ignore the evidence

You do not define reality... sorry, you are wrong
1359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Socialism losing against Capitalism? on: April 10, 2016, 06:01:04 PM
Quote from: Moloch link=topic=1431126.msg14484818#msg14484818
Also... when the banks destroyed the economy... America handed them even more money...

You are absolutely right The private central bank known as The Federal Reserve Bank destroyed the economy. You know who was a big proponent of central banks? Karl Marx. You don't even know the basis of your own ideologies.

It wasn't the banks alone... the banks did not have the power to destroy the economy, until the repeal of Glass-Steagall!

The banks bribed congress to repeal the legislation which prevented them from destroying the economy...

This means that congress is at fault... our capitalist system failed us once again... and once again, due to bribery and corruption...

You might want to do a little research into the economic crash before pretending you know anything about it
1360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitalism Is Jewish Usury on: April 10, 2016, 07:50:18 AM
So what you are telling me there are no Islamic banks which comply with the Muslim laws against usury?

Who said anything about Islam or Muslims?

First it's Jews, now Muslims?

What is it with you guys?  Lemme guess... you're all Christians?  So you hate "the other" religions?

Do I win a cookie?
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