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3501  Other / Off-topic / Re: Osiris - Serverless Anonymous forum on: November 19, 2011, 04:08:49 AM
wooow, i just realized i had disabled p2p all this time, i clicked the small icon it turned green and magic happened Tongue
i see your profiles ppl yeah
3502  Other / Off-topic / Re: Osiris - Serverless Anonymous forum on: November 19, 2011, 03:52:01 AM
Bitcoin Osiris Portal is up! If you have osiris installed, go here and click the link that says "Bitcoin" to join the portal!

got it  Cheesy

edit: i opened the p2p outside port too
3503  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: [WTS] English document/website proofreading & editing on: November 19, 2011, 02:31:07 AM
I have a Cambridge Certificate in English Language Teaching and I am happy to proofread & edit your English Language website or other document for only BTC 0.01 per word.

Ad also at http://spendbitcoins.com/wp/english-proofreading/

eh, no deberias poner tu oferta en el foro ingles ?  Huh

Cxar mi komprenas nur la anglan kaj esperanton. Mia ofero estas korekti la angla por homoj por kiu la angla estas fremda lingvo, ne traduki aliajn lingvojn al la angla. Wink

o sea que me estas vacilando tambien jaja, que cabron
3504  Other / Off-topic / Re: Osiris - Serverless Anonymous forum on: November 19, 2011, 02:06:02 AM
Looks interesting. Still not quite sure what it is, but I'm installing it now.

+1, playing around with the software as i speak, real nice Smiley
3505  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Microsoft Researchers Suggest Method to Improve Bitcoin Transaction Propagation on: November 19, 2011, 12:43:44 AM
I leave bitcoind running as well, for a selfish non-altruistic reason: I hate waiting for the blockchain to update when I go to use it.  It's slower than hell if you have to wait, and a total non-burden if it stays running.

+1

+1
3506  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [89 GH/s] Ozcoin Mining BTC paying 55BTC+TXN 10% more!! on: November 18, 2011, 08:05:17 PM
thank your for your opinion.

From your  active participation in this thread 'How to hop' blog
5th post
Cool!

My idea was to try to distill the essential problem of the proportional reward system to the point where most people can quickly read it and see the problem as obviously as we do.
"we" being hoppers
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yep, you got me Graet, i don't really know what i want...
the only thing i know bitcoin is like a roulette and we're all in for the winnings. I see pools more like numbers you bet on before a round starts, so the measures ops are taking to "force" miners bet only on their pool are a bit strange.
The logic always tells me to have my "eggs" in more than one basket after seeing what happens when pools get attacked by malicious people.

So, yes, i defend free roam between pools. You have to spend time and resources to make it right but you increase your income and help secure the network by hashing where it's needed. Few times "hoppers" decide to voluntarily help a pool in need if i'm not mistaken. They don't have any obligation but they do it anyways to support a good service.

Sorry for spreading FUD about DGM, i don't know how it really works and can't find good explanations either. I suppose Meni have done a good job with the math and it's doing it for a living too so, like many others, i'm lost there.

Organofcorti has done a good job with the graphs btw. I managed to understand why i had so much payout variance on score pools compared to prop, because my internet connection isn't perfect and i have to take that into account too.

Please ignore my rambling if it doesn't make too much sense, it's more like how i feel right now about the issue
3507  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: pueden ayudarme a entender mas sobre bitcoin? Gracias =) on: November 18, 2011, 01:35:54 PM
¿9 folios? Suficiente como para liar a la mayoría que quiera entenderlo. Cheesy

De todas formas, hablo desde la casi ignorancia en cuanto a criptografía.
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Tienes que tener mucho cuidado y escribir bien tu direccion Bitcoin para no tener problemas.
Si pones mal la dirección, falla, no se envía dinero, ya que la dirección lleva algunas comprobaciones, con lo que si cambias una letra, falla.

Eso si, conviene copiar bien la dirección.

Se han presentado algunos casos cuando se pone la direccion usan una direccion "valida" pero desafortunadamente se comete un error y se pone la direccion incorrecta o se cambia alguna alguna letra pero siga siendo una direccion "valida", como consecuencia los coins o los recibe otra persona y/o son enviados a wallets perdidas. Recientemente mtgox perdio una semana de trabajo porque su admin envio el direno por accidente a otro lugar y no al esperado.
Pues quizás sería interesante modificar las direcciones de forma que sea algo así:
afda8ays96gsa0976ga09sg6a0-afa3

Es decir, primero la dirección de toda la vida, y luego algún que otro código de control.

Otra opción interesante podría ser que el cliente mirara en alguna página web que el usuairo elija (como blockexplorer) si la dirección es válida o no en base a si esa dirección tiene transacciones o no. Pero claro, si alguien ya cometió un error antes...

en realidad es muy dificil cometer un error al introducir una direccion ya que si lleva una suma de control integrada, si satoshi habia pensado en eso tambien
3508  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [89 GH/s] Ozcoin Mining BTC paying 55BTC+TXN 10% more!! on: November 18, 2011, 01:17:17 PM
Thanks to everyone that took the time to fill out our survey Smiley

Some good suggestions,some interesting comments and some that left me a little confused Wink

After much discussion, research and though we have decided to look closely at Double Geometric Method. This would currently appear to be the fairest payout system for both miners and poolops.

We are currently setting up Double Geometric Method on the Litecoin pool to monitor how our chosen variables will look. We are running it alongside the Litecoin pool to gather stats as Litecoin blocks come a lot quicker Smiley
Full info on Double Geometric Method
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39497.0

I will post info on our results asap - interesting times Smiley

indeed, interesting times... we're complicating the payouts with more and more stranger formulas thinking that we will solve some nonexistent "pool cheating" by miners. You're in for a surprise indeed...

Those miners are actually working hard for the shares you get until 43% but they choose to help some other pool after that percentage. Paying them just like the others and helping all miners understand the service they do for the pool is an operator moral obligation. Lately i see almost all pool ops choosing what they think is the best path for their business and that is implementing a new payout algorithm that "punishes", yes that is what is does, miners that are too "small" to fill their charts.

I'm mining at only 200 Mh/s and prefer small daily payouts. I will not even consider a pplns or geometric pool in the future just because it will be like signing a very-long-time-contract with the pool owner. If prop. will be the black sheep in the future i will definitely prefer any form of PPS, even with a greater fee to maintain the service.

Bitcoin protocol is an awesome invention indeed and not even one person truly understands how it works as a whole, only Satoshi did. We are exploring it slowly with our bare hands, trying not to get burned on the way and the fact is that one of our "senses" tells us that miner nodes, or pools, need a lot of entropy (randomness) in this process called mining.

Contrary what some "experts" could tell you the popular experience taught us that the most successful pools are not the ones with 2-3 big miners but the ones that accept any kind of miners out there independent of their hashing power (botnets not included). So yes you're in for a not very pleasant surprise if you manage to scare the greater mass of small occasional miners from your pools people. I will trust my senses and small experience on that and hope you reconsider when you will start reviewing your charts sometime in the future...
3509  Other / Meta / Re: A sub-forum for btc legal dialogue? on: November 18, 2011, 02:33:27 AM
yeah, surely needed
3510  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: TripleMining is a scam, and is flooding the forum with referral links on: November 18, 2011, 12:44:24 AM
You just replied to someone from 4 months ago.  I'm sure they really feel the sting right now, lol

yeah happened to me too few years back  Tongue
3511  Local / Español (Spanish) / Re: Noticias Bitcoin - prensa y paginas de blog on: November 17, 2011, 10:37:58 PM
"Por qué bajó el precio del bitcoin (y por qué la respuesta no importa)"
Por majamalu el 15/11/2011

http://elbitcoin.org/por-que-bajo-precio-bitcoin-la-respuesta-no-importa/


"Diaspora, la futura competencia de Facebook, se financia con Bitcoins"
Por ElBitcoin.org el 17/11/2011

http://elbitcoin.org/diaspora-la-futura-competencia-de-facebook-se-financia-con-bitcoins/


"¿euro, peseta o bitcoin? "
trepidia 11/17/2011 11:01:00 AM

http://trepidia.blogspot.com/2011/11/euro-peseta-o-una-nueva-moneda.html


"Ganar Dinero con tu Botnet..."
ELCONDE 13/11/2011

http://www.wf-zone.us/foro-libre/81259.htm
3512  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: November 17, 2011, 01:01:41 AM
Hello
Here to discuss bitcoins.  Also to buy them.  I don't trust people.

me too, that's why i'm here  Cool
3513  Economy / Speculation / Re: My prediction on: November 17, 2011, 12:09:59 AM
there will not be many more massive sales like the one we saw two days ago.
there's just not enough bitcoins for that.

How many times do you suppose 40k goes into 7.5M? I'm sure there are more than a few people who can do that kind of damage again. The question is, are they dumb enough (or smart enough, all depends on how you look at it) to do so?
Keep in mind: for every seller of 40k BTC, there is one (or more) buyer(s) of 40k BTC - perfectly free to dump them right again.

and if you take into account some of them will acquire btc by other means, otc and such, and then sell on mtgox just to drop the price...
3514  Other / Off-topic / Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥ on: November 17, 2011, 12:01:13 AM
Namecoin holders voted for this bill.

not funny matthew  Cry get a grip

When DNS becomes the enemy, Namecoin can only go up uP UP!

now you're talking, hope we don't have to adopt it in a hurry though
3515  Other / Off-topic / Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥ on: November 16, 2011, 11:41:39 PM
Namecoin holders voted for this bill.

not funny matthew  Cry get a grip
3516  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Microsoft Researchers Suggest Method to Improve Bitcoin Transaction Propagation on: November 16, 2011, 10:29:04 PM
The default client only sends transactions with at least one confirmation, so this is an entire non-issue.

The default client only originates transactions where the inputs have at least one confirmation. It relays all transactions that follow the rules.
This is what I meant. You do not need to worry about a transaction until it actually becomes included in a block.

lol, didn't really want to post but this is to funny to resist... q: how would you relay a sole transaction when it's part of a block ?
3517  Economy / Speculation / Re: Exchanges ar bad for BTC on: November 16, 2011, 07:58:50 PM
Bitcoin was intended to be a ham sandwich. Everyone who is exchanging and mining bitcoins is preventing it from achieving its tasty tasty potential. You are HURTING BITCOIN! STOP IT RIGHT NOW!

+1  Cheesy

my opinion atm, bitcoin is a store of value backed by all it's users. You can use it as commodity today, by hoarding some coins, and as currency in the future, you never know...
3518  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Microsoft Researchers Suggest Method to Improve Bitcoin Transaction Propagation on: November 16, 2011, 02:13:54 AM
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No, if Bitcoin were to be widely used most non-miner nodes would have jobs. There is no incentive to relay transactions that don't concern them at all.

My point is that relaying a transaction is useless if it doesn't concern you. If those txs get included in the chain, so be it - you haven't lost anything. Otherwise, you delayed a transaction not belonging to you, making yours get comfirmed faster.

yeah, guess you could tell that to RIP protocol creators too, or all the women in the world that like gossiping just for the sport.
MS research ppl forgot that we're social beings and the bitcoin software actually mimics that on the network. A single node will not have to relay all possible transactions ever, only the ones it hears from it's "nearby" neighbors.
I would personally keep reading on sociology books or network protocols to make a good start in bitcoin Wink

nodes aren't social.  No human is sitting behind the screen going "oh wow look at that transaction".  Hell most users are completely unaware of the fact that transactions are even being relayed.  Thus just like most users don't stay logged into Paypal 24/7/365 they won't feel the need to run client all the time or even run a client at all.

sometimes i can't manage to explain things in a simple manner, imagine the nodes of the software as the social beings doing the "oh wow look at that transaction" all the time not the humans behind them, they pass each other up to date "gossip" hoping some hard working "miner" will confirm it so they can take it for granted. We do it all the time in our day to day lives, pass gossip between each other until it's "confirmed" in mass-media.
Pls don't compare paypal with bitcoin... it's a different system altogether

edit: after little research of my own i just found out that we have one of the most capable researchers at MS are looking for fixes into bitcoin "flaws". Aviv Zohar is even bragging about it, i just share this with all of you with no incentive whatsoever

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Just got my five minutes of SlashDot fame along with +Shahar Dobzinski, +Sigal Oren, and +Moshe Babaioff. We are on the front page!

Researchers Locate Flaw In Bitcoin Protocol - Slashdot
An anonymous reader writes "Researchers at Microsoft Research and Cornell identified a potential flaw in Bitcoin's transaction propagation. In a recent paper they show how miner nodes in the Bitcoin n...
3519  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Microsoft Researchers Suggest Method to Improve Bitcoin Transaction Propagation on: November 16, 2011, 01:11:04 AM
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No, if Bitcoin were to be widely used most non-miner nodes would have jobs. There is no incentive to relay transactions that don't concern them at all.

My point is that relaying a transaction is useless if it doesn't concern you. If those txs get included in the chain, so be it - you haven't lost anything. Otherwise, you delayed a transaction not belonging to you, making yours get comfirmed faster.

yeah, guess you could tell that to RIP protocol creators too, or all the women in the world that like gossiping just for the sport.
MS research ppl forgot that we're social beings and the bitcoin software actually mimics that on the network. A single node will not have to relay all possible transactions ever, only the ones it hears from it's "nearby" neighbors.
I would personally keep reading on sociology books or network protocols to make a good start in bitcoin Wink
3520  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I paid for bitcoins, balance still zero on: November 16, 2011, 12:09:51 AM
Thanks a lot!

glad you figured it out  Cheesy
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