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3621  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Mt Gox and Google Authenticator? on: October 16, 2012, 03:34:28 AM
I just ended up adding the code in manually. It worked,

Great to hear.

I also made a physical copy of the manual code I entered for my records in case anything ever were to happen to this tablet. it gets stolen, breaks, whatever. Don't want be locked out of MT Gox if that were to happen Smiley

That is an often overlooked step of setting up OTP.
3622  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Recent experiences with moneygram to bitcoin on: October 16, 2012, 03:27:00 AM
I believe it's bogus. However, the clerk/cashier gets a prompt on the screen for "ID required" and will not let them continue until they either hit "ok" or actually view the ID and then hit OK. As they are on camera, they ask for an ID. I guess they don't want to risk their job for some moneygram customer.

I'ld be curious to know if being shown page 7 of the guide (which only requires ID for $900 or more) would cause them to make a phone call.  If the software is in error, they won't change it until it is easier for them to change it than to continuously have to field questions as to why they are requiring ID on transfers under $900.
3623  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: SoCAL BITCOINERS Poll: Where to meet??? on: October 16, 2012, 02:33:33 AM
how was the talk? I missed most of it

I got there a few minutes late myself.  I was scanning the panel as I only recognized a couple faces.   Ends up FellowTraveler was up there I guess, I didn't even know it and missed the chance to meet him after.

The questions asked were the type of typical questions facing Bitcoin, economic (deflationary spiral), technical, practical (trade), etc.   The guests in attendance were libertarians and goldbugs.  @SilverVigilante pretty much had the best response basically by saying he supports bitcoin not just for its attributes (low cost transfer, non-reversible, etc.) but for what it is not -- it is not the Federal Reserve.  It is not the Goldman Sack nor it is the JP Morgue.   It is not helping to finance the wars.
  - https://twitter.com/silvervigilante

I seriously think the faster you get someone using bitcoins on a smartphone (e.g., playing bitZino, or a BitcoinSpinner wallet,) and a tiny sample of coins so they are using them, sending them back and forth you then get the message through ten times better than explaining the chicken and egg merchant / consumer catch-22.
3624  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: mt gox questions on: October 16, 2012, 02:08:08 AM
So there is np way to make say a coin voucher for 5 and print qr code for physical transport?

 One redeemable kn a wallet, not gox.

Sure, print a paper bitcoin and then withdraw from Mt. Gox to that paper bitcoin's Bitcoin address.   Transfer that paper to whomever, and that person can redeem the paper bitcoin in Bitcoin-Qt (import private key, then do a sweep transaction) or redeem it in blockchain.info/wallet (again, sweep to a new address after importing it).

 - http://www.BitAddress.org
3625  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Recent experiences with moneygram to bitcoin on: October 16, 2012, 02:02:59 AM
If she wasn't half-naked, I'd recommend it to more people.

I've been reluctant to direct others to that video as well.   I just shrugged innocently when I was asked about that spiral mask thingy she wears.


At the cashier, regardless of transfer amount, I'm asked for photo ID. They will not continue unless I give an ID.

That's bogus!

Here's what the AML Compliance Guide from Moneygram says:

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Before completing a Send and / or Receive of $900 or more, you must obtain and record the customer’s government issued photo ID.

So if your transfer was under $900, they weren't required by Moneygram to check your ID.

You might print out pages 1 and 7 of the guide to show them.  Maybe that will help the clerk "remember" instances where they don't need to collect ID.

 - http://www.moneygram.com/WCM/groups/mgicorp_content/documents/content/mgicorp_moneylegal_region1_209.pdf
3626  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is bitcoin a payment Instrument? on: October 15, 2012, 11:45:34 PM
Do you think bitcoin qualifies as other instrument or order for the transmission or payment of money sold to one or more persons whether or not that instrument or order is negotiable?



Well, "or other instrument or order for the transmission or payment of money sold to one or more persons"

Can bitcoin transmit money? 

I don't think so, at least not in Arizona according to the definition you provided:

9. "Money" means a medium of exchange that is authorized or adopted by a domestic or foreign government as a part of its currency and that is customarily used and accepted as a medium of exchange in the country of issuance.


3627  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Interac e-transfer a good way of trading bitcoins? on: October 15, 2012, 10:46:53 PM
I'm just wondering if anyone has feedback on using Interac for BTC...


Canadian Bitcoins will cash out to Interac, but there are no exchanges that still accept Interac for the purchase of bitcoins.

If you have a good trust history on the #Bitcoin-otc Web of Trust (WoT) you might find a willing counterparty.

There might be no need to trade online if there is someone local:

 - http://www.LocalBitcoins.com

Or check the Canadian IRC for advice and/or a counterparty:

 - http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#bitcoin-cad
3628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Swish! on: October 15, 2012, 10:36:11 PM
With a blockchain.info you can instantly send to anyones:

sms

Provided is a link to the web interface to claim the funds.

Using Coinapult.com you can already send Bitcoin to an email address or phone number (via SMS). With the SMS system specifically, phones even without web access can hold bitcoins and transfer them to other phones.

That's still just U.S. and Canada for that SMS wallet?
3629  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Pirateat40, Nefario, Zhoutong on: October 15, 2012, 10:26:52 PM
Nefario has lied to everybody about quickly moving GLBSE around in case of government issues.

Those may have been his intentions but then he claims to have received counsel advising him otherwise.

 - http://bitcoinmagazine.net/interview-with-glbses-nefario/

Return of BTC funds held by GLBSE have begun.

3630  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Mt Gox and Google Authenticator? on: October 15, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
I notice 3 flashing yellow dots on the corners of the qr code, but it never accepts it  I'm stumped lol 

I think that's normally a focus and/or lighting problem.    Is the screen display opaque?   Perhaps try printing it out and scanning?

I believe you can upload the QR code here, to test and make sure the problem is not with the code itself.
 - http://www.onlinebarcodereader.com/
(Just don't use that code ...  treat it as having been compromised after.)
3631  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: bitcoind - adding addresses without private key? on: October 15, 2012, 09:23:46 PM
So it doesn't seem like adding address without a private key is useful. Or am I doing it wrong?

You aren't adding an address to the wallet though. 

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setaccount changes the account associated with an existing address.
- http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Accounts_explained#Accounts_and_Receiving_Addresses

So the problem is that the address doesn't exist in the wallet already, right?  The only way to add it is to import the private key (and rescan), and then it is no longer a watching only wallet.

You can roll your own monitoring for a list of bitcoin addresses from activity on the blockchain using Raw Transactions (new in the Bitcoin.org client v0.7).  Armory has the concept of a watching only wallet:

 - http://bitcoinarmory.com/index.php/using-offline-wallets-in-armory
3632  Other / Meta / Re: Deleting threads - Log the Title, URL, date deleted, deleted by, and reason on: October 15, 2012, 08:57:44 PM
Here's a basic log of the last 14 days of deletions:
https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php

Wow ... I had no idea there was so much crap that needed to be culled from the forum.  I'ld like to take this opportunity to express to the mods my gratitude for taking on this task!
3633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Mt Gox and Google Authenticator? on: October 15, 2012, 05:26:38 PM
Any incite would be very helpful! Thanks!

Does the display show a reflection from overhead track lighting or some kind of problem like that?

Also which app are you using to do the scan? Barcode Scanner 4.3.1 from ZXing does a pretty good job even in low light or poor focus conditions.
3634  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bets of Bitcoin Guaranteed Bet on: October 15, 2012, 04:54:35 PM
how does that work with with weighing bets over time? how much are late bets discounted?

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What is a weighted bet?
To promote early bettors on a statement, we distribute 45% of the lost bets such that early bettors get a larger share. Each bet is time weighted and get a share from this portion proportional to the weighted value. Weight of a bet is simply the minutes between the time of the bet and betting deadline. For an example, see the answer of "How are the losing bets distributed?".

What is the best betting strategy?
Betting involves balancing two incentives. Waiting for the deadline may give you extra information about the upcoming event, but early bets earn a higher weight. So bet as soon as you are confident about the result, bet more for higher profits. Also you can always add more bets later on.

 - http://betsofbitco.in/help
3635  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much do you pay for electricity? on: October 15, 2012, 07:38:29 AM
I currently pay ZERO. In manhattan! No, my parents aren't paying for it or anything.. I just have no utility bills!


ASICs are tipping the playing field, as with GPUs most of the cost to mine, spent in a year, went to electricity.  With ASICs, most of the cost is in the hardware, with a fraction of that amount going to electricity.   But low cost electricity sure doesn't hurt!


Related:


GPU MINERS: What is your Electricity Cost?
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115373.0


Your Electricity Cost per Kwh (Which country is the Most Expensive)
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97239.0


How much do you pay for power?
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64232.0


3636  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: SoCAL BITCOINERS Poll: Where to meet??? on: October 12, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
Libertopia anyone?

I'll be there today, at the 4pm Alternative Currencies talk.
3637  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Libertopia 2012 - San Diego - Oct. 11-14, 2012 on: October 12, 2012, 05:34:45 PM
catch anyone there

I'll be there this afternoon, at least for the 4pm alternative currencies talk.
3638  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: is it still worth it for me to mine bitcoin with 3x 6950 at this current rate? on: October 12, 2012, 05:01:34 PM
which card is most worthwhile now to buy , lol for mining

You missed responding with the most important piece of information.

Does the BTC generated pay for the electricity cost used and leave you with a profit?

Or better yet, what is the price you pay for electricity. 

In less than 50 days, most GPU miners will be losing money on each share, as the cost of electricity will exceed the value of the bitcoin returned (presuming the exchange rate then is not much different from today).  That is even without any ASIC shipment.  Add ASIC and that only exacerbates the GPU miner's woe.

So, unless you get free electricity, or really low (like you live near hydro or get it at $0.07 per kWh or less), then you probably shouldn't be considering adding GPU capacity unless you have another use for those GPUs (e.g., gaming).

3639  Bitcoin / Press / Re: 2012-10-11 loper-os.org - Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope. on: October 12, 2012, 06:36:28 AM
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The real laugh is that there is no solid reason to believe that the world’s national banks have seen it fit to sweat so much as one drop to vanquish Bitcoin through discreditation

It is easy for banks to mess with under-capitalized Bitcoin-related businesses which intersect with dollars.  They've been messing with exchanges beginning well before Mt. Gox made its case against its bank in a French court. Probably PayPal's freezing of Mt. Gox's PayPal account (in Oct 2010, back when Jed was the operator) was probably the first confrontation.  And the banks are now showing their teeth.   Metro Bank in the UK (Intersango), Barclays (Mt. Gox), Chase bank (re: BitFloor), Wells Fargo (re: BitFloor), BitPiggy's bank in Australia, ....  you name the exchange and there are stories of banking woe.  

Unfortunately, all the bank needs to do is push a button and the targeted exchange nearly gets put out of business as a result.  They don't need to break a sweat to deliver hurt, but that doesn't mean they aren't well aware of Bitcoin's potential to change the game.

But this angst about what the government will do, ... he's definitely over doing it.  When Phillip R. Zimmerman was creating PGP, he fielded the same question from the press and from colleagues asking him what he would do "when the government came after him" (as encryption software are munitions).  And what did he do?   Nothing.   Well, nothing as far as breaking the law.   He figured out how to distribute software in a legal way (in book form with scannable pages.).  He says the government never even contacted him.

Contrast that with:

A bitcoin stock market, will involve 0 law,

And then proceeding to confront it head-on, in their space, before realizing that doing so has real consequence.

Either way, GLBSE is not Bitcoin and Bitcoin is not GLBSE.  GLBSE simply ended up not being able to figure out a sustainable path to run an equities market outside of regulation.   It was a startup that had a flawed model and closed.  Big deal, that happens every day.  It really has little to do with Bitcoin and Bitcoin doesn't need a GLBSE to thrive (or exist even) to become successful as a digital currency.

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But the down-side is that we won’t learn just what sort of world is possible given a functioning, decentralized cryptocurrency

How many people leave the stadium in the middle of the second inning?
3640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Riddle me this ...Payment sent to correct address recipient on: October 12, 2012, 12:36:07 AM
We both have screenshots  of his client with his bitcoin address and my blockchain wallet transaction to that payment address any ideas?

When in doubt, verify with Blockchain.info or BlockExplorer.com
 - http://www.Blockchain.info


The blockchain never lies.
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